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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on May 13, 2007, 10:28:11 AM
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hahaha I hope it was worth it ruining your health for $15,000 Branch :D :D
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He would compete against a legion of shitty gym rats if he had to, guys like branch are addicted to being a freak plain and simple, the money is an afterthought.
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He would compete against a legion of shitty gym rats if he had to, guys like branch are addicted to being a freak plain and simple, the money is an afterthought.
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hahaha I hope it was worth it ruining your health for $15,000 Branch :D :D
What else is new? These guys are not rational people. They DON'T care......... :-\
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He would compete against a legion of shitty gym rats if he had to, guys like branch are addicted to being a freak plain and simple, the money is an afterthought.
Exactly.
It's so fucking sad.......
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I hope the members of the IFBB hire a guy to represent them so they can get more prize money at these IFBB shows. How embarrassing to compete for prize money that low in a industry that generates 100's of millions of dollars. I remember CHic saying he got all the competitors prize money. How much did the last place person get in this contest, or did he have to pay.
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I hope the members of the IFBB hire a guy to represent them so they can get more prize money at these IFBB shows. How embarrassing to compete for prize money that low in a industry that generates 100's of millions of dollars. I remember CHic saying he got all the competitors prize money. How much did the last place person get in this contest, or did he have to pay.
It;s more a punishment to come last than a price to be precise.
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hahaha I hope it was worth it ruining your health for $15,000 Branch :D :D
doesnt matter, the man owns 2 large companys and 1 small buisness(his gym). so i thinking he just doing what he loves,nothing wrong with that.
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there may be nothing wrong with doing what you love but its sad that a show like the new york pro only pays 15 grand for 1st.
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How embarrassing to compete for prize money that low in a industry that generates 100's of millions of dollars.
Actually, professional bodybuilding generates shit for revenue (just ticket sales and sponsorship of shows). Supplement sales are what generate "$100's of millions". However, owing to the fact that some 90% of supplement buyers don't even follow professional bodybuilding and really couldn't care less, these revenues would be generated with or without the IFBB and their trained monkeys. As a result, pro bodybuilders have little or no leverage.
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Just a question, how long has there been a NY Pro Show.
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doesnt matter, the man owns 2 large companys and 1 small buisness(his gym). so i thinking he just doing what he loves,nothing wrong with that.
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But thats not the point, what if he didn't have those to fall back on?
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But thats not the point, what if he didn't have those to fall back on?
that wasnt the question,but if he didnt have those things it would be sad
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Fact is 15G is fucking sad and probably doesn't even cover the juice.
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Actually, professional bodybuilding generates shit for revenue (just ticket sales and sponsorship of shows). Supplement sales are what generate "$100's of millions". However, owing to the fact that some 90% of supplement buyers don't even follow professional bodybuilding and really couldn't care less, these revenues would be generated with or without the IFBB and their trained monkeys. As a result, pro bodybuilders have little or no leverage.
But the majority of these supp companies are around because of the BB industry. They support and sponsors shows around the world. In fact 99% of all sponsorship money comes from supp companies. The prize money being given out is mostly received from supp companies sponsoring the event. The thing is supp companies use BB to promote their products (thats why you don't see any of the 90% you say who buy these products being used to promote them) yet the BB's don't see any kind of substantial income from this except the ones who are actually sponsored. In other words the supp companes should be forking out more money for sponsoring of these events so that the competitors make more money.
If Chic or whoever is supposed to be helping these competitors make more money should be going after these companies. Everytime I see when Chic mentions how he has got them more money for prize money I laugh so hard. He only got $4,000 for one event. And that money was being used for something else and just redirected to prize money to make the IFBB look like they care. Lets see him increase the money in EVERY show. Now that would be something to brag about, not one show and only $4,000. He should never mention that. I love it how he says all the time how he is VP of BB.com and Egg International, yet how much money do these two companies give promoters to hand out for prize money. Every show that BB.com does a feed from should be paying the promoter at least $50,000. That is minimum. The amount of exposure and everything else BB.com gets from doing these live feeds is huge to them. The promoter should be getting something. The prize money can be raised but Chic either doesn't want to do it or doesn't knwo how. The IFBB members need someone who knows how to do it.
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Just a question, how long has there been a NY Pro Show.
Two years, I think. When was the last IFBB NOC? The NY Pro started the year after.
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But the majority of these supp companies are around because of the BB industry. They support and sponsors shows around the world. In fact 99% of all sponsorship money comes from supp companies. The prize money being given out is mostly received from supp companies sponsoring the event. The thing is supp companies use BB to promote their products (thats why you don't see any of the 90% you say who buy these products being used to promote them) yet the BB's don't see any kind of substantial income from this except the ones who are actually sponsored. In other words the supp companes should be forking out more money for sponsoring of these events so that the competitors make more money.
Most people who take supplements are lifting to get in shape for their own reasons, and don't watch, follow, or care about competitive bodybuilding. These people would be buying their supplements even if the IFBB folded and never put on another show.
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I hope the members of the IFBB hire a guy to represent them so they can get more prize money at these IFBB shows. How embarrassing to compete for prize money that low in a industry that generates 100's of millions of dollars. I remember CHic saying he got all the competitors prize money. How much did the last place person get in this contest, or did he have to pay.
In life we get our market value. If bodybuilders don't get a lot, it is because they have little market value.
TA was talking about ways to make bodybuilding more popular. Truth is, it is boring to watch bodybuilding as a competitive "sport" - it just isn't exciting, even to me, who is a huge fan of bodybuilding.
Just a question, how long has there been a NY Pro Show.
Two years. Here are pictures from the first NY Pro:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/nypro2005updates.html
It was previously the "Night of Champions", but when Wayne Demilia left the IFBB he took the name with him. The venue is the same though, so it is basically the same show. New York still likes the freaks first and foremost.
Actually, professional bodybuilding generates shit for revenue (just ticket sales and sponsorship of shows). Supplement sales are what generate "$100's of millions". However, owing to the fact that some 90% of supplement buyers don't even follow professional bodybuilding and really couldn't care less, these revenues would be generated with or without the IFBB and their trained monkeys. As a result, pro bodybuilders have little or no leverage.
If you read some of the posts on getbig, you would think we all hate bodybuilding and professional bodybuilders. The truth is, we on here, as well as tons of young men, like to go to the gym with the goal in mind to gain muscle, and often that is the extent of our appreciation of bodybuilding. That's not to say we (in general) like to see huge drugged up men in thongs pose for (little to no) pay. We are attaching ourselves to the "sport" which best represents a hobby that we enjoy.
For those pros asking why people like goatboy even post here - where else do you expect him to post? He probably likes working out and building muscle, but that doesn't mean he likes the industry. Just so no one asks again why posts like this are so negative made by supposed "fans".
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hahaha I hope it was worth it ruining your health for $15,000 Branch :D :D
Thats sad.........I make more than that as a trainer and I don't have to risk my life doing it :-\!!
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Thats sad.........I make more than that as a trainer and I don't have to risk my life doing it :-\!!
training is not a sport! >:(
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Most people who take supplements are lifting to get in shape for their own reasons, and don't watch, follow, or care about competitive bodybuilding. These people would be buying their supplements even if the IFBB folded and never put on another show.
Yes but the supp companies use the BB industry to test, market and develop their products. They use BB's not a waiter to put in their ads and marketing material.
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Yes but the supp companies use the BB industry to test, market and develop their products. They use BB's not a waiter to put in their ads and marketing material.
They don't "need" pro bodybuilders to put in their ads to the mass market... any reasonably muscular steroid-monkey will do.
And they can "test" their products on anyone who lifts. (since when do most supp companies test their products anyway? ::))
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training is not a sport! >:(
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LOL!
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doesnt matter, the man owns 2 large companys and 1 small buisness(his gym). so i thinking he just doing what he loves,nothing wrong with that.
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I know about the gym, what are the 2 large companies?
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
life endangering drugs, brutal hunger to the point of starvation, punish the body into submission...= 15K
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
That wasn't for one day's work... it's not like he has the oportunity to make the same tomorrow and the next day.
Given the amount of work to get ready for a show, and the number of shows each pro does each year, that's more like pay for the past six months. Meaning he got paid shit.
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
No...but how much would Branch's gear have cost for the show? Tom Prince once said the least he ever spent for contest prep was $1,800 preparing for his win at the 1997 Nationals. :-\
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life endangering drugs, brutal hunger to the point of starvation, punish the body into submission...= 15K
Life endangering drugs? Millions of people die from lung cancer and drunk driving a year. How many people die a year from using steroids? Thats right ::)
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No...but how much would Branch's gear have cost for the show? Tom Prince once said the least he ever spent for contest prep was $1,800 preparing for his win at the 1997 Nationals. :-\
I have no idea but many people assume that gear is expensive. If you have the right sources you can get it cheap.
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Life endangering drugs? Millions of people die from lung cancer and drunk driving a year. How many people die a year from using steroids? Thats right ::)
True...depends on whether or not Branch is abusing it I guess. gh15 is pretty in the know and he claims Branch is a heavy user...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=100950.0
I have no idea but many people assume that gear is expensive. If you have the right sources you can get it cheap.
True on having the connections.
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I know about the gym, what are the 2 large companies?
one is a rather large shipping company and i forget what the other is
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I remember when the NY Pro Show was the (IFBB) Night of Champions. It was in a real theater (Beacon Theater) with 2800 seats sold out. There were over 50 competitors.
Now it is in a school auditorium with about 900 seats (300 of them empty), 19 competitors, a primitive stage setting, .... WHAT HAPPENED ??? :'(
Why don't you call Steve and Bev and ask them.
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I remember when the NY Pro Show was the (IFBB) Night of Champions. It was in a real theater (Beacon Theater) with 2800 seats sold out. There were over 50 competitors.
Now it is in a school auditorium with about 900 seats (300 of them empty), 19 competitors, a primitive stage setting, .... WHAT HAPPENED ??? :'(
the ifbb is turning into a steaming pile of cow dung...the only way to save this bullshit of a federation is to find another arnold and milk his teets for a decade to bring bodybuilding back on the map
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I remember when the NY Pro Show was the (IFBB) Night of Champions. It was in a real theater (Beacon Theater) with 2800 seats sold out. There were over 50 competitors.
Now it is in a school auditorium with about 900 seats (300 of them empty), 19 competitors, a primitive stage setting, .... WHAT HAPPENED ??? :'(
You have the same name as my ex, now I am depressed. Good job.
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I remember when the NY Pro Show was the (IFBB) Night of Champions. It was in a real theater (Beacon Theater) with 2800 seats sold out. There were over 50 competitors.
Now it is in a school auditorium with about 900 seats (300 of them empty), 19 competitors, a primitive stage setting, .... WHAT HAPPENED ??? :'(
Hi Wayne.
Yes, you were a much better promoter than anyone else in the IFBB. We get it. ;D
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I remember when the NY Pro Show was the (IFBB) Night of Champions. It was in a real theater (Beacon Theater) with 2800 seats sold out. There were over 50 competitors.
Now it is in a school auditorium with about 900 seats (300 of them empty), 19 competitors, a primitive stage setting, .... WHAT HAPPENED ??? :'(
Cause they lost the best (easily) promoter they ever had. This is just another show that has proven it along with the Olympia. Chic doens't seem to notice that though. Talking about being blind.
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
Are you forgetting the prep for the show. That is where the real work is. Say 3 months out minimum. I am sure allot of people on here make at least $5,000 a month.
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I like it how my post on how Weider and Manion has hurt BB was deleted. Manion is a pussy. See how long this lasts.
it will last in memory :-*
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Cause they lost the best (easily) promoter they ever had. This is just another show that has proven it along with the Olympia. Chic doens't seem to notice that though. Talking about being blind.
Wayne was a fine promoter....when he had the backing of the IFBB behind him.
If he was the genius you think he is..he wouldn't have given 3/4 of the tickets away for free at the NOC last year.
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Wayne was a fine promoter....when he had the backing of the IFBB behind him.
If he was the genius you think he is..he wouldn't have given 3/4 of the tickets away for free at the NOC last year.
nice non-addressing the topic Chick. Just chime in to argue with Onlyme?
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the ifbb is turning into a steaming pile of cow dung...the only way to save this bullshit of a federation is to find another arnold and milk his teets for a decade to bring bodybuilding back on the map
If Wolfe keeps his waist under control they have him already...I'm not sure if he has the persona to match but they have a guy they can sell to the mainstream right freaking in front of them.
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As long as they let someone as ugly as Branch Warren win, the downward trend is gauranteed. Hope this helps.
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In life we get our market value. If bodybuilders don't get a lot, it is because they have little market value.
TA was talking about ways to make bodybuilding more popular. Truth is, it is boring to watch bodybuilding as a competitive "sport" - it just isn't exciting, even to me, who is a huge fan of bodybuilding.
Two years. Here are pictures from the first NY Pro:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/nypro2005updates.html
It was previously the "Night of Champions", but when Wayne Demilia left the IFBB he took the name with him. The venue is the same though, so it is basically the same show. New York still likes the freaks first and foremost.
If you read some of the posts on getbig, you would think we all hate bodybuilding and professional bodybuilders. The truth is, we on here, as well as tons of young men, like to go to the gym with the goal in mind to gain muscle, and often that is the extent of our appreciation of bodybuilding. That's not to say we (in general) like to see huge drugged up men in thongs pose for (little to no) pay. We are attaching ourselves to the "sport" which best represents a hobby that we enjoy.
The NOC was originally held at the Beacon Theatre, a 3000 seat venue. It has since moved to the Tribeca Performing Arts center, a 1000 seat venue.
To lift a line from the movie "This is Spinal Tap," "Bodybuilding's appeal has gotten more selective."
As far as hating bodybuilding, for me, that's not the case. It's more a matter of not being able to relate to what I'm seeing on stage. When a teenaged Thin Lizzy started lifting weights (the early 1980s), the pros had at least somewhat attainable looking physiques, and even the ones who didn't, like Bertil Fox, had physiques you wanted to have, if you could.
Does anyone in their right mind want to look like Markus Ruhl?
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As long as they let someone as ugly as Branch Warren win, the downward trend is gauranteed. Hope this helps.
LOL. Truth!!!
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Does anyone in their right mind want to look like Markus Ruhl?
Good points! As impressive as current pro bodybuilder physiques are, they are so unattainable that aspiring to look like them has never really crossed my mind.
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$15,000 is 10 G4p loads :)
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$15,000 is 10 G4p loads :)
Is that how much you charge? ;D
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Wayne was a fine promoter....when he had the backing of the IFBB behind him.
If he was the genius you think he is..he wouldn't have given 3/4 of the tickets away for free at the NOC last year.
So you are admitting on here that Weinberger is NOT a good promoter and also Robin Chang is NOT a good promoter. Or are you saying the IFBB does NOT back Weinberger or Chang. Just asking since you are admitting Wayne was ONLY a good promoter with the IFBB behind him. Can you find out why the IFBB does NOT support Weinberger or Chang. We'd like to know the reasons. Thanks Bob
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nice non-addressing the topic Chick. Just chime in to argue with Onlyme?
Bob is my friend and we agree to argue with each other. Ron pays us a monthly salary to do this. ;D
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Onlyme even with the backing of the IFBB wayne wasn't saving BB. This issue is bigger than him!
for mainstream people anything bigger than the Men's Health cover boy is disgusting.The general public is just not interested in a sterioded/overly muscled people. Yes, Arnold was the exception but he made his mark in the movies not BB.
coupled with the fact the current trend in bodybuilding is for larger GH gut turns off even some of the hardcore fans.
I remember everyone saying that we needed someone that could articule a message and attract new people. They bashed coleman on this and pushed for Jay. Well I am glad to see that Jay is attracting the masses ::)
the problem that the IFBB has is that they are rewarding people that has payed their dues (Branch, Coleman, Cutler, James....) and so the current young up and comers have to play the size game to earn some respect
and ofcourse as we all know, playing the size games means getting a bigger gut. Turning off even more fans.
The next step for the NY Pro is to host a show on a street corner while holding up a tin cup for tips.
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The downsizing happened between last year and this year. Last year's show was about twice the 19 of this year. New York was always a place for some new international folks to debut, but that was missing this year, as well. I do understand how one can't ignore phenomenal physiques like Branch and Dennis James, but with aesthetic physiques like Dennis Wolfe, Kai Greene and Craig Richardson, it is too bad that they were not the ideal.
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As long as they let someone as ugly as Branch Warren win, the downward trend is gauranteed. Hope this helps.
This is how weird pro bodybuilders got a bad name in general public ...
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Bump for Chic to answer me
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Bump for someone to get Onlyme more pancakes.
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Bump for someone to get Onlyme more pancakes.
bump for you to get some class ;D
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so everybody on here gets 15k a day ::)
The NY Pro doesn't pay $15,000 a day. All the months of preparation, food, drugs, tanning, etc. were at least $15,000 though Branch doesn't actually get the full 15. After taxes he's lucky to take home $9,000.
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The NY Pro doesn't pay $15,000 a day. All the months of preparation, food, drugs, tanning, etc. were at least $15,000 though Branch doesn't actually get the full 15. After taxes he's lucky to take home $9,000.
and that's pushing it hard
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Bump for someone to get Onlyme more pancakes.
Bump for Issac to have the physical ability to be able to compete instead of having to take pics to get his jollys ;D
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Why the hell has Art Atwood dropped off the face of the planet?
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Why the hell has Art Atwood dropped off the face of the planet?
Never heard of him.....does he lift??
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Why the hell has Art Atwood dropped off the face of the planet?
His physique isnt getting better
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Cause they lost the best (easily) promoter they ever had. This is just another show that has proven it along with the Olympia. Chic doens't seem to notice that though. Talking about being blind.
Hey kieth why don't you drop a few names on us and tell us all the inside info that celebrities like you have access to in the VIP.
" Yeah so I was on a 3 way call with Cory Everson and the stunt double for Van Damme in Cyborg., and I said hold on I got a beep from the 3rd runner up on celebrity fit club, yeah he's in my five." ::)
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Hey kieth why don't you drop a few names on us and tell us all the inside info that celebrities like you have access to in the VIP.
" Yeah so I was on a 3 way call with Cory Everson and the stunt double for Van Damme in Cyborg., and I said hold on I got a beep from the 3rd runner up on celebrity fit club, yeah he's in my five." ::)
Okay how about the name Antcraw. He is this awesome guy (according to him of course)who is nameless, faceless, and has done nothing in his life good enough even to mention. So embarassed about himself he posts no pics and won't even give us his name. Antcraw is the biggest no-name I know. Sorry I can't come up with anymore. Well there's TexasBlubber
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Bump for someone to get Onlyme more pancakes.
Bump for someone to get Isaac more ad hominem attacks. ;D