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Title: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: AE on May 16, 2007, 07:31:50 AM
Latest repug attempt to pass the buck. How screwed up is this?

"WASHINGTON — President Bush has selected an Army lieutenant general to be his war czar in charge of overseeing the battles in Iraq and Afghanistan."

"If he keeps his current rank, as expected, Lute will be in the difficult position of overseeing people who outrank him, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Peter Pace, a Marine four-star general, and Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003708708_warczar16.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003708708_warczar16.html)

Pathetic

Will we never learn?  :-\

"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganization; and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization.'' "

- Petronius Arbiter - Greek Navy - 210 BC
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 07:50:24 AM
another reorganization, another "let's give it 9 more months after the surge to see if Lute's supervision works".

you people who don't see it's a stall... well, you're stupid.  take it to the bank.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 08:04:31 AM
I don't even know where to start..i don't get this at all.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: youandme on May 16, 2007, 09:05:46 AM
<shakes head> :-\
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 09:25:37 AM
I don't even know where to start..i don't get this at all.

You will.

It's a stall.  It always has been.  The more you pass the torch of responsibility, the longer you go without having to answer for why you don't have results.

ieffin, do you *really* believe our 160,000 troops and 100,000 contractors cannot kill 2500 insurgents in 4 years?  Come on...

If you step back, and try on the mindset of "the war theater is only a stall to get the pipeline built", then EVERY thing about this war makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 16, 2007, 10:56:34 AM
Bush is supposed to be the commander in chief. If he doesn't want that title anymore, he should resign.

That a number of 4 star general turned down the position speaks volumes.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on May 16, 2007, 10:59:33 AM
I'm wondering if any Bush supporters remain?  ???
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 11:03:14 AM
True......240 a stall would imply plan..there is no plan..there was a plan..a good plan..then Rummy got involved....ex navy pilots without ground combat experience should not be in charge of the laterine let alone a ground invasion. And as u well know..since we have these ridiculous rules of engagement and the fact that the enemy hides in mosques and schools and blows up kids..its hard to get a handle on them. Thats why anytime these idiots come out in any kinda numbers we call in air strikes and level towns to kill them. Which in turn piss's off the Iraqi's.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 11:38:18 AM
True......240 a stall would imply plan..there is no plan..

HH6,

Perhaps the plan is "No Plan".

*IF* the goal is oil, then the more chaos the better to justify our presence (while the pipeline is built).
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 12:01:58 PM
Ok but if the morons blow up the pipeline..u could be right but they are way outa control
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 16, 2007, 12:03:14 PM
Impeach the president.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: The Enigma on May 16, 2007, 12:24:19 PM
Latest repug attempt to pass the buck. How screwed up is this?

"WASHINGTON — President Bush has selected an Army lieutenant general to be his war czar in charge of overseeing the battles in Iraq and Afghanistan."


Bush and the Repugs need someone to blame the war on, don't they?
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 12:25:09 PM
Ok but if the morons blow up the pipeline..u could be right but they are way outa control


insurgents attack the pipeline every chance they get!  They KNOW it means their only asset is leaving the nation.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 12:29:20 PM
yeah but they have to sell it to somebody..anyway blowing up their own people doesn't sound like a great plan. Further..why do people back these guys? The answer is they don't but they are scared as hell. At some point u would think the average citizen would see that we're trying to help while the insurgents/terrorists/foreign fighters aren't doinga thing for them.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
we're trying to help

the US, a nation of many resources, is trying to take the one they have.

i'm not sure we're "helping" much
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 12:55:11 PM
Look bro they would be selling it on the open market and as it is we aren't the biggest buyer of it. We have to virtually rebuild their whole country..no big deal except for all the assholes with IEDs
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 12:56:27 PM
But in the larger sense I get ur point.
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Tre on May 16, 2007, 01:01:28 PM
We have to virtually rebuild their whole country..

Why hasn't anyone put forward a plan to build up Mexico?
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: headhuntersix on May 16, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
Thats another disaster....but we give them a ton of money
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Victor VonDoom on May 16, 2007, 01:32:36 PM
another reorganization, another "let's give it 9 more months after the surge to see if Lute's supervision works".

you people who don't see it's a stall... well, you're stupid.  take it to the bank.

Behold your folly!
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: 240 is Back on May 16, 2007, 01:38:40 PM
But in the larger sense I get ur point.

respect.

Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: tu_holmes on May 17, 2007, 12:32:09 AM
Why hasn't anyone put forward a plan to build up Mexico?

Cause Tequila is still cheap.

;)
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: Faust on May 17, 2007, 01:40:03 AM
Why hasn't anyone put forward a plan to build up Mexico?

Because the Mexicans are rebuilding the USA!
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: egj13 on May 17, 2007, 08:24:54 AM
Why hasn't anyone put forward a plan to build up Mexico?

They take billions of dollars a year to Mexico, I just don't see them putting it to use. Isn't income from US jobs the second biggest money maker in Mexico?
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: BayGBM on August 11, 2007, 09:27:02 PM
Whatever happened to the War Czar?  Has he accomplished anything?
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: OzmO on August 12, 2007, 10:34:51 AM

yes, we will never cut and run from our great commander in chief.



Yes, what's it like living in the bunker with BUSH?
Title: Re: WTF - Bush appoints war czar
Post by: OzmO on August 12, 2007, 12:22:48 PM
very safe.

I'm sure Albert Speer felt the same way.   ;)