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Title: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 17, 2007, 06:22:14 PM
When I first got into this sport 30 yrs ago, tatoos were a major NO NO. Now it seems they are a fashion statement of some kind and many in the hardcore end sport a variety of tatoos. I also see many that dress in skull caps with fu man chu beards and maintain a renegade persona. I just don't get this whole rebel/ thug attire and attitude deal? Clue me on , I am clueless old fart  I guess.  Thanks, Howard
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: michael arvilla on May 17, 2007, 06:25:31 PM
I got "tatted up" in the early 1980's i used to get comments and stares like
"how could he mutilate himself like that?"..............and"you will get major points deducted by the bodybuilding judges for those tattoo's.................now they are acceptable

my how times have chaNged!!
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: mdgkmg on May 17, 2007, 06:32:32 PM
ppl just trying to look like they're all that in the eye of their own public. too afraid to just be themselves etc. they gotta follow the fad. its like if the coolest kid on the block starts lifting weights and also becomes the biggest ppl will soon follow.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: knny187 on May 17, 2007, 06:37:54 PM
the way I look at it....it's a bunch of people trying to separate themselves or to look different.

In the end....i'm the odd ball of my friends because I don't have one.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: pumpher on May 17, 2007, 06:40:26 PM
Do you love tatoos when you get old & saggy or they fade?
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 17, 2007, 06:52:52 PM
i have alot of tattoos and have never gotten them because of others. in fact im the only 1 of my friends and family that has them. i do it because i think its the ultimate form of art. as far as the ? i always get. "ull regret it when u get older" maybe but id rather be on my death bed saying i wish i didnt do something then i wish i did
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 17, 2007, 06:55:50 PM
tatoos are way more accepted now then they where even 15 years ago and thats in everyday life as far as wiht bodybuilding there is alot of tan stuff that covers them up
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 17, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
i have alot of tattoos and have never gotten them because of others. in fact im the only 1 of my friends and family that has them. i do it because i think its the ultimate form of art. as far as the ? i always get. "ull regret it when u get older" maybe but id rather be on my death bed saying i wish i didnt do something then i wish i did

Thanks for the sincere reply. I myself don't have any desire to get one, but I  don't judge anyone that has your attitude. Do you bodybuild?   Howard
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 17, 2007, 07:00:30 PM
tatoos are way more accepted now then they where even 15 years ago and thats in everyday life as far as wiht bodybuilding there is alot of tan stuff that covers them up

True , but my main question is about the overall look of many hardcore guys, that seem to want to project the tough guy/ gangsta kinda look ( that often includes tatoos). I know that no masculine dude wants to look or dress like Peter Pan, but, in my opinion, a lot of the new tough guy look is a bit over the top. Maybe I am gettin' old LOL  .
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Devon97 on May 17, 2007, 07:04:38 PM
True , but my main question is about the overall look of many hardcore guys, that seem to want to project the tough guy/ gangsta kinda look ( that often includes tatoos). I know that no masculine dude wants to look or dress like Peter Pan, but, in my opinion, a lot of the new tough guy look is a bit over the top. Maybe I am gettin' old LOL  .


Howie,
Honestly for most of these guys its a "cry for help"
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 17, 2007, 07:08:59 PM
Howie,
Honestly for most of these guys its a "cry for help"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  that was a zinger, ok , seriously what kind of persona or image are they trying for?
I am a middle aged old fart so bear with me on this. But to me, a lot of guys look like a combo of a guy "getting ready to do yard work with the I am doing time at the max security pen look ::)"
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 17, 2007, 07:10:02 PM
the best is the tough guy formula                                                                                          shaved head + moustache goatee combo+tap out shirt - sleeves +biohazard tattoo+workout gloves + punching movements with dumbells in hands = one hell of a tough guy
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 17, 2007, 07:28:11 PM
the best is the tough guy formula                                                                                          shaved head + moustache goatee combo+tap out shirt - sleeves +biohazard tattoo+workout gloves + punching movements with dumbells in hands = one hell of a tough guy

LMAO  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    THAT was funny as hell, what a zinger LOL.

I was out in a club with my gf and other friends  and saw that a lot of the 20 something guys had the " moustache-goatee with baseball cap/ tatoo look going on. I took an informal survey of the ladies and asked them if "THAT" was an attractive "look" to them. It got a big thumbs down, EVERY time. In that light wtf are these guys trying to acomplish, because I have yet to meet any woman that thinks it is a desirable look. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 17, 2007, 07:33:16 PM
these guys are just lacking something and figure being a tuff guy makes up for it...yet they would have their lunch ate on them if they did ever get into ti so they try to "dress tuff" which is usually a combination of every cliche thing they have ever seen
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 17, 2007, 07:38:14 PM
i dont bodybuild as in compete but i love the challenge of dieting and working out hard. i got into it from wrestling and sport and when that stopped i fell in love with bodybuilding. i would never do well in a show because i naturally have a blocky waist even when down to very low body fat. but i love lifting heavier weight and feeling good about myself. i do it for myself not any body else. i have tons of tattoos but no piercing and they are weird to me and i would never get one but if you like it then i think thats all that matters
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 17, 2007, 07:41:19 PM
i also unlike most keep my tattoos covered almost at all times i wear long sleeves and dont like to show them. no 1 at work (hospital) knows i have them. i hate the people that wear a wife beater to the gym so they can show there tattoos
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 17, 2007, 07:47:06 PM
i dont think anyone has a problem with tats i just hate the people who get them for the wrong reasons or they get lame ones that pepole have ruined example bulldog ones biohazard ones barbwire arm band ones with skulls with snakes and flames   but actuall tattoos that mean something to the person and arent just a cookie cutter tat is very cool with me
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2007, 08:59:39 PM
tats are ugly and these days you are more of a rebel if you DON't have one

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: leonp1981 on May 17, 2007, 09:06:10 PM
I've got three and am planning on getting more.  I've designed / modified a design for them all, and had them done at different times in my life.  I couldn't care less what other people think of them, they are there because I wanted them and because they remind me of certain times in my past.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2007, 09:07:35 PM
they are there because I wanted them and because they remind me of certain times in my past.

shouldn't your brain be enough to remind you of times in the past?

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: leonp1981 on May 17, 2007, 09:10:28 PM
shouldn't your brain be enough to remind you of times in the past?

E

Yes, but my tattoos remind me in the same way that a picture does, or how a song sparks memories, or a certain smell makes you think of something.  When my son is old enough to write his own name, I'll get that inked on, so that I can always see him as he was at that age.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Stark on May 17, 2007, 11:29:08 PM
Do you love tatoos when you get old & saggy or they fade?

Like who gives a shit than? U are hardly pulling any chicks with 60 anymore ::)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: gordiano on May 17, 2007, 11:32:44 PM
ppl just trying to look like they're all that in the eye of their own public. too afraid to just be themselves etc. they gotta follow the fad. its like if the coolest kid on the block starts lifting weights and also becomes the biggest ppl will soon follow.

Exactly.


Fucking sheep. One asshole gets a Hummer, so the rest follow. One gets a gay haircut, so do the rest......


I seen them EVERYDAY, carbon fucking copies of each other. You can't tell 'em apart.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: hangclean on May 17, 2007, 11:48:47 PM
I guess you people that are criticising tatoos have never actually seen a good one.  Good art is good art, no matter if it is on canvas or flesh.  I do agree that the whole "walk into a tatoo shop and pick a piece of flash off the wall and get it done" attitude is stupid and most good artists hate doing it, but they need to make money too.  Oh yeah, Superman tats and Tazmanian Devil tats as well as Tribal stuff are unoriginal and pointless.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 17, 2007, 11:53:23 PM
I guess you people that are criticising tatoos have never actually seen a good one.  Good art is good art, no matter if it is on canvas or flesh.  I do agree that the whole "walk into a tatoo shop and pick a piece of flash off the wall and get it done" attitude is stupid and most good artists hate doing it, but they need to make money too.  Oh yeah, Superman tats and Tazmanian Devil tats as well as Tribal stuff are unoriginal and pointless.

Maybe, but these tatoos are 99.9% of all tattoos.

Tatoos suck, they look stupid, especially on women. tramp stamp or a fucking unicorn on the shoulder, it looks like shit. Chinese symbols?? Should be forbidden to tattoo because either the tattooist can't read it or he loves to insult his customers because they'll never find out.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: hangclean on May 17, 2007, 11:55:35 PM
Maybe, but these tatoos are 99.9% of all tattoos.

Tatoos suck, they look stupid, especially on women. tramp stamp or a fucking unicorn on the shoulder, it looks like shit. Chinese symbols?? Should be forbidden to tattoo because either the tattooist can't read it or he loves to insult his customers because they'll never find out.  ;D ;D
Wrong about the 99%.  Its only that people with whack tatoos like that always want to show them off.  I could show you some back pieces that would blow your mind.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Fulgorre on May 18, 2007, 12:29:43 AM
Got nothing against tattoos but it does seem like the entire freaking gym has them...except me. :)  Oh yes....girls have told me, "You'd be sooo hot with a tribal on your arm!!!!"  Well, I just never wanted one.  It appears a lot of these guys, the majority of them, probably got the tattoo for some other reason then they wanted it.  To look cool...for a gf...to rebel.  A few guys in the IFBB have a tattoo of Joe & Ben Weider's face??? hahaha  I will say, Lee Priest's Superman tattoo was awesome when he first got it.  It was original and it meant something about him.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: hangclean on May 18, 2007, 12:33:57 AM
Any girl that says you would look hot with a tribal on your arm is not worth talking to in the first place.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 18, 2007, 12:34:48 AM
Wrong about the 99%.  Its only that people with whack tatoos like that always want to show them off.  I could show you some back pieces that would blow your mind.

yup. mine stay under my shirt, and i sure as shit didn't do them to be "tough". ::)

i get them because i have an incredible artist and the shit he can do just looks amazing.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: gordiano on May 18, 2007, 12:35:57 AM
Any girl that says you would look hot with a tribal on your arm is not worth talking to in the first place.

Very true.











But worth the fucking.....and nothing else.  ;)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: hangclean on May 18, 2007, 12:44:34 AM
yup. mine stay under my shirt, and i sure as shit didn't do them to be "tough". ::)

i get them because i have an incredible artist and the shit he can do just looks amazing.
That is an example of a good tatoo.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Sexual Mustard on May 18, 2007, 12:50:21 AM
tattoos on guys I don't mind at all since it's always been traditionally a "guy" thing.  I can't stand them on women since these days most of them do it as a fad.  Especially on a really beautiful woman...why mess with perfection?

"You don't put a bumper sticker on a Mercedes."

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Tombo on May 18, 2007, 01:35:58 AM
yes thank god they are acceptable in 'society' now .. sigh
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 18, 2007, 03:15:27 AM
Any girl that says you would look hot with a tribal on your arm is not worth talking to in the first place.

Agreed.

A tattoo on a girl is a clear sign of lack of class.
No girl that thinks of wearing a nice cocktail dress sometimes would think about getting a barbwire band around her arm.  :-X :-X
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 18, 2007, 09:11:41 AM
if you look at tattoos in diff cultures only women in some Filipino tribes will have tattoos, Samoan men have larger tattoos by rank. when it comes down to it tattoos have been around since the start of man and for those of you that hate tattoos i can almost guarantee you that one of your ancestors had tattoos
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 18, 2007, 09:32:24 AM
The only ink The Beef has are two black tear drops comming from the corner of The Beef's left eye.

The Beef
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 18, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
if you look at tattoos in diff cultures only women in some Filipino tribes will have tattoos, Samoan men have larger tattoos by rank. when it comes down to it tattoos have been around since the start of man and for those of you that hate tattoos i can almost guarantee you that one of your ancestors had tattoos

I don't give a fvck about some people living in huts. I don't have to catch fish or hunt monkeys to get food so i don't have to get a tattoo to define my rank.

I wonder how many on this board are either from a fillipino tribe or samoan. If you look at tattoo history in western cultures, you'd either find seamen or criminals.
Even if you look on a broader base, tattoos have always marked the poor man. period.
Rich people do not have tattoos. (todays rock stars and movie actors excluded, they belong to the artist world, which was poor until the movies.)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: ripitupbaby on May 18, 2007, 10:50:12 AM
yup. mine stay under my shirt, and i sure as shit didn't do them to be "tough". ::)

i get them because i have an incredible artist and the shit he can do just looks amazing.


Magoo that is a SWEET tattoo.

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Bronx on May 18, 2007, 10:53:54 AM
Obviously the people who say they hate tattoos aren't into the culture, so you don't know. However it is just an opinion and everyone is free to them. For those of us who do it for the art side and it isn't to "fit in", we have a different opinion. And fyi, 90% of what you people see are total shit for tattoos. And anyone who gets one done by walking in and picking something off the wall should have to get "I got something I didn't deserve" tat2d under it.

Fyi. The more tat2s you get, the less you fit in....trust me.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 18, 2007, 10:56:45 AM
you fool European kings, Persian kings, Hawaiian chiefs, African tribe leaders, Samoan chiefs, etc. etc. all the wealthiest of there groups and guess what have tattoos. I'm not trying to say they are for everybody and i agree some people get them for the wrong reason but don't try to put down the people that do have them. the reason tattoos are thought to be a lower standard is because criminals, slaves, and bandits were tattooed. but not because they wanted to, because they were forced to. it was the most recent and carried over to modern times. and fuck it if a tattoo means I'm an outlaw badass and you walk on the other side of the street from me. so be it i wont have to ever meet you ass in real life so i guess they paid off
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 18, 2007, 11:22:08 AM
Even if you look on a broader base, tattoos have always marked the poor man. period.
Rich people do not have tattoos. (todays rock stars and movie actors excluded, they belong to the artist world, which was poor until the movies.)

bahahahahaah!! ;D ;D ;D

dude you're so wrong it's hilarious. a good tattoo will run a fair chunk of change. mine cost $500 and was only that cheap because the artist is a friend of a friend and he really wanted to do it. we'll be putting another on the other side that'll be of a similar price, and covering my back will probably run near a grand.

if you get a paul booth piece (the guy who designs what i got), you'll be spending $2000+ at the minimum if it's done by the original artist. not to mention the pain you'll go through for the damn thing. sitting a full 9+ hours in a chair getting needles jabbed into my chest/shoulder/back didn't feel too good, let me tell ya.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: j3di3 on May 18, 2007, 11:39:24 AM
bahahahahaah!! ;D ;D ;D

dude you're so wrong it's hilarious. a good tattoo will run a fair chunk of change. mine cost $500 and was only that cheap because the artist is a friend of a friend and he really wanted to do it. we'll be putting another on the other side that'll be of a similar price, and covering my back will probably run near a grand.

if you get a paul booth piece (the guy who designs what i got), you'll be spending $2000+ at the minimum if it's done by the original artist. not to mention the pain you'll go through for the damn thing. sitting a full 9+ hours in a chair getting needles jabbed into my chest/shoulder/back didn't feel too good, let me tell ya.

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: chester_bbb on May 18, 2007, 11:55:34 AM
Do you love tatoos when you get old & saggy or they fade?

That's when you start GH therapy. ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 18, 2007, 11:59:22 AM
::) ::) ::)


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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Rudee on May 18, 2007, 12:00:59 PM
Tattoos used to be a way to stand out from the crowd.  Now tattoos are used as a way to fit in. 
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: the shadow on May 18, 2007, 12:18:07 PM
i would love to get a tattoo on my butthole :P..
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: the shadow on May 18, 2007, 12:23:57 PM
haaaaaaaaaaaahasaaaaaaaaaaaasahahahhaaaaaaaaaa  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh I found your contest pix !, you really really lookin gooid ::)
'monster arms' ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: migizi on May 18, 2007, 12:26:27 PM
I got my tattoos because I researched like crazy what my Kanienkehaka (that's Mohawk) ancestors used to have, so to me, it's not just some ink under the skin but a connection with those that used to wear these, mainly warriors had them, and I take it that I'm a warrior, fighting to help my family be grounded, fighting, my mind in the gym, fighting my body to get lean again.  
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Option D on May 18, 2007, 12:27:15 PM
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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: JimmyTheFish on May 18, 2007, 12:28:41 PM
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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 18, 2007, 02:15:00 PM
Any girl that says you would look hot with a tribal on your arm is not worth talking to in the first place.

LOL, ok, but c'mon she might be a nice girl that just likes the look of that kind of thing on guys she is attracted to. The kind of woman I have known , dated or married don't seem to go for that look.

My ex wife was a prof woman, (board cert psycholgist) and my present gf works as a VP for a major bank.
I guess I really admire and am attracted to, intelligent, ambitious woman. A couple of my young gym bro's asked me what it would take to  have me "hook 'em up" with one of those smart, career 'biatchas'.They had on the typical basball hat, goatee with moustahce and often met girls at various clubs.
I looked at him and came back with ; " Unless you do a 180 on your attire and learn how to speak with respect to a real woman, you wouldn't last 5 min with somebody I would date, stick with your teen floozys ." :o
They were like , hey man ,c'mon I am da man,etc ; after I said it. I am known as a big joker at my gym , so after I laughed , we all had a good time ribbing eachother. In the end , I think it has to do a lot with my age and interest outside the gym.
I know I was a bit of knucklehead back in the day.

I have no issue with any guy that gets his tatoos , is proud of it and could care less what others. One of the most decent guys I ever met in this game is a big, massive powerlifter , we call Hoss. Like me he is an ex-marine , but he is a LOT bigger, over 300 lbs and 6'2" with shaved head. He has a big marine tatoo and a couple others. Now he is TOUGH as hell looking, but is one of the most polite and decent guys you would ever meet.

In the end I think how a person acts and behaves is a lot more important than clothes or tatoos.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: gymforlord on May 18, 2007, 02:16:18 PM
tats are ugly and these days you are more of a rebel if you DON't have one

E
Amen on that!
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: gymforlord on May 18, 2007, 02:18:33 PM
LOL, ok, but c'mon she might be a nice girl that just likes the look of that kind of thing on guys she is attracted to. The kind of woman I have known , dated or married don't seem to go for that look.

My ex wife was a prof woman, (board cert psycholgist) and my present gf works as a VP for a major bank.
I guess I really admire and am attracted to, intelligent, ambitious woman. A couple of my young gym bro's asked me what it would take to  have me "hook 'em up" with one of those smart, career 'biatchas'.They had on the typical basball hat, goatee with moustahce and often met girls at various clubs.
I looked at him and came back with ; " Unless you do a 180 on your attire and learn how to speak with respect to a real woman, you wouldn't last 5 min with somebody I would date, stick with your teen floozys ." :o
They were like , hey man ,c'mon I am da man,etc ; after I said it. I am known as a big joker at my gym , so after I laughed , we all had a good time ribbing eachother. In the end , I think it has to do a lot with my age and interest outside the gym.
I know I was a bit of knucklehead back in the day.

I have no issue with any guy that gets his tatoos , is proud of it and could care less what others. One of the most decent guys I ever met in this game is a big, massive powerlifter , we call Hoss. Like me he is an ex-marine , but he is a LOT bigger, over 300 lbs and 6'2" with shaved head. He has a big marine tatoo and a couple others. Now he is TOUGH as hell looking, but is one of the most polite and decent guys you would ever meet.

In the end I think how a person acts and behaves is a lot more important than clothes or tatoos.
I think it all depends on the person, too, Howie. On some guys it just looks trashy. On some, they look terrific.
I have trouble more with prof BB'ers and tats-to me it seems to distract from what they are trying to achieve.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MAXX on May 18, 2007, 02:25:28 PM
I got "tatted up" in the early 1980's i used to get comments and stares like
"how could he mutilate himself like that?"..............and"you will get major points deducted by the bodybuilding judges for those tattoo's.................now they are acceptable

my how times have chaNged!!
and why did you copy Lee Priests tatoo on your shoulder?

thats kinda lame if you ask me..
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Deadpool on May 18, 2007, 02:31:57 PM
the only tatoo that would "make' you look tough are:

1. hells angels tattoos (and if you aren't a HA, they WILL skin it off)

2. black teardrops or hearts around your eye

3. hand tattoo that says "lifer"
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: SS on May 18, 2007, 02:44:44 PM
the only tatoo that would "make' you look tough are:

1. hells angels tattoos (and if you aren't a HA, they WILL skin it off)

 
damn right we will.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 18, 2007, 03:11:07 PM
you fool European kings, Persian kings, Hawaiian chiefs, African tribe leaders, Samoan chiefs, etc. etc. all the wealthiest of there groups and guess what have tattoos. I'm not trying to say they are for everybody and i agree some people get them for the wrong reason but don't try to put down the people that do have them. the reason tattoos are thought to be a lower standard is because criminals, slaves, and bandits were tattooed. but not because they wanted to, because they were forced to. it was the most recent and carried over to modern times. and fuck it if a tattoo means I'm an outlaw badass and you walk on the other side of the street from me. so be it i wont have to ever meet you ass in real life so i guess they paid off

Name me one european king with a tattoo. Do you think Queen Elizabeth has a tramp stamp?

Just a bunch of treehuggers.

No european needs that stupid tribe shit. We don't live in tribes and we define our rank over the pay check, and not a stupid picture on our body.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 18, 2007, 03:48:22 PM
Name me one european king with a tattoo. Do you think Queen Elizabeth has a tramp stamp?

Just a bunch of treehuggers.

No european needs that stupid tribe shit. We don't live in tribes and we define our rank over the pay check, and not a stupid picture on our body.

we also don't hunt our food any more, so being in peak physical condition is stupid. i guess we should stop working out. don't forget tanning is bad for your skin, better stay pale as a ghost. ::)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 18, 2007, 03:52:40 PM
there is no use auguring really every one has there beliefs and in this situation there is no answer. instead people are passionate about tattoos and some hate them. i hate figure skating, and basket ball but there are some people out there who love those sports and live and die for them just my opinion not here to change minds just defend my belief.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 18, 2007, 08:54:26 PM
like i said before i hate tats but I do think the face tat is kind of badass :)

why don't the guys that get tats for the sole reason to look tough get a face tat? 

sure it might affect them during a job interview but these guys want to be rebels right?

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 18, 2007, 08:56:15 PM


In the end I think how a person acts and behaves is a lot more important than clothes or tatoos.

true but from my experience i'd say atleast 90% of the time a persons appearance matches their personality

"don't judge a book by it's cover" is bullshit :)

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 19, 2007, 03:00:28 AM
we also don't hunt our food any more, so being in peak physical condition is stupid. i guess we should stop working out. don't forget tanning is bad for your skin, better stay pale as a ghost. ::)

Idiotic response. They are more reasons to staying healthy and fit than hunting animals.

I don't tan, it's better for my skin. We can talk again when we're fifty and then you'll see that i am healthy, fit and young looking whereas you will have a stupid tattoo you thought was cool in your early 20s and bad skin from the sunbed.

If you want to get a tattoo, you should ask yourself only one question: "If i painted something that i thought was very cool on my body ten years ago, what would it be?" Face it, 10 years ago you where an idiot and most people here would have gotten a Ninja Turtles tattoo or Micky Mouse.
10 years from now you will feel the same, that is totally normal, it's called maturing and learning. If you don't you're dumb.  ;D


Hope this helps.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 19, 2007, 10:06:04 AM
donkey i cant argue that you make good points and maybe you'll save some one from getting a stupid horrible tattoo. Ur words however do not persuade me and I'm still happy with my decisions. i no allot of men and women in there 50-60's covered in ink and they wouldn't change it for the world all i can do is hope to be the same i may regret it or i may live a life that makes me happy at the end of the day you should do what makes you happy.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
Idiotic response. They are more reasons to staying healthy and fit than hunting animals.

I don't tan, it's better for my skin. We can talk again when we're fifty and then you'll see that i am healthy, fit and young looking whereas you will have a stupid tattoo you thought was cool in your early 20s and bad skin from the sunbed.

If you want to get a tattoo, you should ask yourself only one question: "If i painted something that i thought was very cool on my body ten years ago, what would it be?" Face it, 10 years ago you where an idiot and most people here would have gotten a Ninja Turtles tattoo or Micky Mouse.
10 years from now you will feel the same, that is totally normal, it's called maturing and learning. If you don't you're dumb.  ;D


Hope this helps.  ;D ;D

but why bother being so fit? longevity? weightlifting isn't good for your longevity and eating like a bodybuilder sure isn't. the healthiest way to live is to do cardio and bodyweight exercises while eating small meals 3 times a day. if you want to be healthy at 5'10" or so you shouldn't bulk up past 170 pounds-ish.

you lift and get ripped for vanity. that's why you do it. i get tattoos because i personally like them. like lilwoday said, your advice is 100% spot-on for the kind of idiots who get "fire" in kanji tattoo'd on them or barbed wire armbands, but i'm proud of my work. one i'm partly covering up because the artist botched it, but i'm in no way ashamed of it.

the thing is, when i'm an old saggy guy, i'm going to be ugly all over. it's not like a tattoo is going to make me more or less ugly. i heavily doubt when i'm an 85 year old man with balls down to my knees, liver spots, and saggy tits, i'll take my shirt off at the beach and people are going to say "you know he'd look good if it wasn't for that tattoo!"
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 19, 2007, 10:49:52 AM
the thing is i don't even know if I'm gonna live to be 80 so thats why it doesn't concern me and also when I'm that old ill just be a cool as grandpa with allot of stories to tell. life is about living and doing what you want. not getting a tattoo because it might look dumb in 40 years, well thats just stupid. this is what i plan to look like when I'm complete
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 19, 2007, 11:07:41 AM
this is what i plan to look like when I'm complete

why? ???

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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 19, 2007, 11:28:03 AM
why not, i like tattoos i have no desire to compete in bodybuilding and i have always wanted a body suit. you cannot tell that i have any when i wear a long sleeve shirt and as far as jobs go i have a college education, a basic medical license (EMT/paramedic) i work in the ER and surgery rooms. so if people say i must be dumb or uneducated i can show them up as well. i will try to break the stigma. and if you ask me why, i say why would anyone want to be as big as Ronnie, Ruhl, or jay. to me thats crazier and worse on your body than tattoos. people will look at you more as a freak like that then with tattoos.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 19, 2007, 11:36:52 AM
and if you ask me why, i say why would anyone want to be as big as Ronnie, Ruhl, or jay. to me thats crazier and worse on your body than tattoos. people will look at you more as a freak like that then with tattoos.

I wouldn't want to look like any of the pros you mentioned nor would I want to look like the guy with the tats

I really don't think comparing bodybuilding to excessive tattoos is a good comparison

bodybuilding can be fun, challenging, physically and mentally rewarding and improve many aspects of your life

what can be said about tats other than you like the way they look?

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2007, 11:50:11 AM
getting a tattoo is an experience one never forgets. they become bookmarks of your life. and let me ask you what's rewarding about bodybuilding beyond liking how it makes you look? it's all vanity. someone who works out religiously and walks around in a sleeveless shirt is after attention more than someone who has a tattoo covering his back but leaves it under a t-shirt all the time.

and as for looking "different", isn't that also why we work out? because the average person is small and out of shape, so we differentiate ourselves from the pack by working out? quit acting like bodybuilders, of ALL levels, are somehow seeking attention less than people with tattoos.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 19, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
getting a tattoo is an experience one never forgets. they become bookmarks of your life. and let me ask you what's rewarding about bodybuilding beyond liking how it makes you look? it's all vanity. someone who works out religiously and walks around in a sleeveless shirt is after attention more than someone who has a tattoo covering his back but leaves it under a t-shirt all the time.

and as for looking "different", isn't that also why we work out? because the average person is small and out of shape, so we differentiate ourselves from the pack by working out? quit acting like bodybuilders, of ALL levels, are somehow seeking attention less than people with tattoos.

it's rewarding because you get more respect from guys and more attraction from the opposite sex, makes it easier to carry those heavy grocery bags too :)

the way you look greatly influences the way people treat you and if you know you look much better than the average guy obviously you will be more confident and it will show in your body language making you a more attractive person overall

yeah you could say that a guy wearing a sleeveless shirt is out for attention but during the summer guys wearing them seems to be as common as girls wearing flip flops so is it really about attention or is it just comfortable?

yeah guys bodybuild for attention but I just think it is far more respectable than tattoos because you have to earn it, anybody can sit in a chair and let some guy jab needles into their body, and the fact that every girl that got a BMW for her 17th birthday from daddy now has a tat they aren't quite as "cool" as they were 15 years ago

i really don't think there is much of a comparison between bodybuilding and tats

if somebody is just out for attention excessive tats are an easy way to get it but like i said before they are becoming more and more common and if the trend keeps up the guy without tats will be more unique :)

muscles will never be common, it's just too hard and takes too much time 8)

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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 19, 2007, 12:23:24 PM
also the human body is beautiful :)

would you spray graffiti on a beautiful painting? ;)

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DarthNemesis21 on May 19, 2007, 05:19:27 PM
damn right we will.
Chapter?phx,C.C.,m.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DarthNemesis21 on May 19, 2007, 07:14:10 PM
I like my ink.
I got it for ME!It's not my fault your chick's digging on 'em.

I like to wear wife beaters to the gym,because it's comfortable.Not to show off.Or impress you foolish mortals.

I have a foo manchoo because it looks good.Not to intimatate people.
All I've gotta do is go BOO!Or just show/flex the posterior deltoid.

I joke.But this is no joke.If you dont like it dont look.I understand there are ALOT of dudes who are trying to hide behind all that.But not all of us who have any or all of what you've mentined.Are trying to prove or hide anything.
I've grown the f#%k up.Moved past all that tough guy crap.But I still have my ink,Foo man,harley,ect.

Howard.you seem to validate your self by the women you run with.You elevate yourself,While it may seem like a joke.At the expence of others.Put them down so you feel better.Ivy leauge educations,corvette's,bleach blondes with bolt on accesories may look classy.But it sure dosen't mean you are classy.
So you ask why....I ask you why

Or the guy who took it upon himself to as the women the club if the look works.
Your probably the "harmless guy friend" the girls hang out with.But dont drop any ass to.The guy they dress/undress in front of when they're getting ready to go out.Or they were the guys who took your money,Then stuck you in your looker.Either way.Why do you care?

It just kills me when people who have issues of they're own.Start banging on other people they have no clue about.Wether it be an armanie suit.Or a tapout tank.
Do they talk to you?
Do they threaten you?
Do they put they're hands on you?
Then who the hell are you,And what buisness is it of yours!?

If you did talk to them.you just might be surprised at what you discover.I was a drunk/drug addict,I've been to prison.I've hurt the people I love,and have done things I'm not proud of.But I'm also a loving father/husband/son.I quit drinking/drugs years ago.I'm a college student,who's working to be an R.N..
So despite the rough exterior.I'm a good person,with a good heart.
Stop,and think before you speak.

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: SS on May 19, 2007, 07:18:03 PM
bro where at in az you from? i live in peoria.... got a scoot also, what you ride"
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DarthNemesis21 on May 19, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
bro where at in az you from? i live in peoria.... got a scoot also, what you ride"
N phx. '89sporty.got it from Bad Bob @Mesa chapter
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: SS on May 19, 2007, 09:08:23 PM
N phx. '89sporty.got it from Bad Bob @Mesa chapter
nice! gotta 04 nighttrain....you remember "dirty dan" aka Dan Danza he was in CC chpter then moved over to phoenix chapter. he also was org dirty dozen.....also you know big John cetta?

anywho will have to get a beer sum day.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 20, 2007, 01:22:11 PM
Idiotic response. They are more reasons to staying healthy and fit than hunting animals.

I don't tan, it's better for my skin. We can talk again when we're fifty and then you'll see that i am healthy, fit and young looking whereas you will have a stupid tattoo you thought was cool in your early 20s and bad skin from the sunbed.

If you want to get a tattoo, you should ask yourself only one question: "If i painted something that i thought was very cool on my body ten years ago, what would it be?" Face it, 10 years ago you where an idiot and most people here would have gotten a Ninja Turtles tattoo or Micky Mouse.
10 years from now you will feel the same, that is totally normal, it's called maturing and learning. If you don't you're dumb.  ;D


Hope this helps.  ;D ;D

so your saying my ninja turtlews tat sucks   >:( i am afraid you jsut dont know what cool is my firend  ;D

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: michael arvilla on May 20, 2007, 06:36:19 PM
and why did you copy Lee Priests tatoo on your shoulder?

thats kinda lame if you ask me..

Not going to argue with you...........but ive had my Superman Tat well over 10 years now

way before priest got his..........(def not the most original tattoo, but def not a copy of Lee Priest)

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 20, 2007, 08:15:37 PM
Really the main bad thing with tattoos in my opinion is just that a guy will think of something cool and get it and then people start copying until it isn't cool and becomes a joke

  But hey really to each their own i have a few ideas i would like to get as a tattoo but i don't know if i would like them permanently and that is the only reason why i don't get ink
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 20, 2007, 11:29:12 PM
so your saying my ninja turtlews tat sucks   >:( i am afraid you jsut dont know what cool is my firend  ;D



You miss the point.

What you think is cool now is not what you will think is cool in ten years.  ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 21, 2007, 08:27:22 AM
Not going to argue with you...........but ive had my Superman Tat well over 10 years now

way before priest got his..........(def not the most original tattoo, but def not a copy of Lee Priest)



Hey no prob with what man wants to put on his body ya know. However, I was curious as to what you and some others felt was too much for for a bodybuilder in a contest.

 ??? At what point should a guy/girl be placed lower because of tatoos? How much is too much for a contest?
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Big Worm on May 21, 2007, 10:10:22 AM
i would love to get a tattoo on my butthole :P..
Those two ball prints are enough ..
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 21, 2007, 10:46:29 AM
I like my ink.
I got it for ME!It's not my fault your chick's digging on 'em.

I like to wear wife beaters to the gym,because it's comfortable.Not to show off.Or impress you foolish mortals.

I have a foo manchoo because it looks good.Not to intimatate people.
All I've gotta do is go BOO!Or just show/flex the posterior deltoid.

I joke.But this is no joke.If you dont like it dont look.I understand there are ALOT of dudes who are trying to hide behind all that.But not all of us who have any or all of what you've mentined.Are trying to prove or hide anything.
I've grown the f#%k up.Moved past all that tough guy crap.But I still have my ink,Foo man,harley,ect.

Howard.you seem to validate your self by the women you run with.You elevate yourself,While it may seem like a joke.At the expence of others.Put them down so you feel better.Ivy leauge educations,corvette's,bleach blondes with bolt on accesories may look classy.But it sure dosen't mean you are classy.
So you ask why....I ask you why

Or the guy who took it upon himself to as the women the club if the look works.
Your probably the "harmless guy friend" the girls hang out with.But dont drop any ass to.The guy they dress/undress in front of when they're getting ready to go out.Or they were the guys who took your money,Then stuck you in your looker.Either way.Why do you care?

It just kills me when people who have issues of they're own.Start banging on other people they have no clue about.Wether it be an armanie suit.Or a tapout tank.
Do they talk to you?
Do they threaten you?
Do they put they're hands on you?
Then who the hell are you,And what buisness is it of yours!?

If you did talk to them.you just might be surprised at what you discover.I was a drunk/drug addict,I've been to prison.I've hurt the people I love,and have done things I'm not proud of.But I'm also a loving father/husband/son.I quit drinking/drugs years ago.I'm a college student,who's working to be an R.N..
So despite the rough exterior.I'm a good person,with a good heart.
Stop,and think before you speak.



Obviously, we attract different woman in terms of what they like. This does not make me any better or worse than you or vice versa. To be honest I have been with three woman in the last 21 years and was married to the first two for 10 yrs each and am dating the 3rd now for the past 6mos.
I have no kids but enjoy my career and modest income as a science teacher.
I read and appreciate your well thought and sincere reply and question(s).
The reality in society is pretty simple in terms of our image and dress. Fair or not, unless someone knows who and what we are they have nothing else to go on but our dress, image and overall look and demeanor.
As I said in later posts in this thread, some of the finest human beings I ever meet have a lot of tatoos and look kinda "rough".
I am a humble high school physics teacher who bodybuilds as a hobby. My dress hardly makes a statement and overall I am a humble and modest man. I drive a clean , dependable KIA spectra and live in a modest 2 BR townhouse I was able to purchase on a VA loan. I never went to any Ivy league schools. nor dated big boob blondes and don't care for pompous folks.
Not that it matters, but I still don't fully understand the "why" or motivation for extensive tatoos or to cultivate a
"rough " image. That was my original question and maybe you could shed some light on it. I tend to make jokes and try to be a funny guy, etc. Like most people I am naturally curious about those that seem different than I.
Thanks again, Howard
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Karma on May 21, 2007, 11:31:52 AM
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Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: SS on May 22, 2007, 12:11:42 PM
Howie = scared of guys with tats.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: ironjudgement on May 22, 2007, 01:55:08 PM
I waited until I was 48 to get my first tattoo. I had lost both my parents and a sister in a short amount of time. My tattoos were designed by myself and an artist. They have meaning and were designed with my family in mind. If you are going to commit to body art; make the piece have meaning, and help design an original work of art. My tats are on my upper arms, very few people even know I have them. I also believe that tattoos look better on athletic bodies. Why would you want to put art on a poor canvas! I enjoy my tattoos, and believe me; I am old enough to know better. As a BB judge I also never mark contestants down for them. They are common and accepted.Just my thoughts.......
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Sexual Mustard on May 22, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
Obviously, we attract different woman in terms of what they like. This does not make me any better or worse than you or vice versa. To be honest I have been with three woman in the last 21 years and was married to the first two for 10 yrs each and am dating the 3rd now for the past 6mos.
I have no kids but enjoy my career and modest income as a science teacher.
I read and appreciate your well thought and sincere reply and question(s).
The reality in society is pretty simple in terms of our image and dress. Fair or not, unless someone knows who and what we are they have nothing else to go on but our dress, image and overall look and demeanor.
As I said in later posts in this thread, some of the finest human beings I ever meet have a lot of tatoos and look kinda "rough".
I am a humble high school physics teacher who bodybuilds as a hobby. My dress hardly makes a statement and overall I am a humble and modest man. I drive a clean , dependable KIA spectra and live in a modest 2 BR townhouse I was able to purchase on a VA loan. I never went to any Ivy league schools. nor dated big boob blondes and don't care for pompous folks.
Not that it matters, but I still don't fully understand the "why" or motivation for extensive tatoos or to cultivate a
"rough " image. That was my original question and maybe you could shed some light on it. I tend to make jokes and try to be a funny guy, etc. Like most people I am naturally curious about those that seem different than I.
Thanks again, Howard

I don't know if it's the same in your area, but I do guest speakings at high schools every now and then, and it saddens me to see so many girls now with the tramp stamp.  Comments?

Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: odilly on May 22, 2007, 08:09:29 PM
tramp stamps are just the cookie cutter cool symptom again the first chics that got them where probably cool chics but then the unoriginal dolts caught on and figured in order to be a rebal they should get it too
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: DK II on May 22, 2007, 11:16:19 PM
I don't know if it's the same in your area, but I do guest speakings at high schools every now and then, and it saddens me to see so many girls now with the tramp stamp.  Comments?



Yes, but it's a nice quality symbol, you can check quickly which girls don't make a good wife.  ;) ;)

BTW, studies shows that tramp stamps cause problems during birth because doctors can't use any anesthesics because the color might be washed into the vertebrae.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 23, 2007, 10:43:46 AM
I don't know if it's the same in your area, but I do guest speakings at high schools every now and then, and it saddens me to see so many girls now with the tramp stamp.  Comments?



I also judge and don't place a guy or gal lower due to a tatoo or 2. However, if it is ALL OVER their back or front and distracts from their overall physique, it should be a negative in a physique contest.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 23, 2007, 11:11:56 AM
well if that is the case people should get marked down for being ugly or having crappy hair, its not part of the physique but sure can be distracting or make the body look less appealing.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 23, 2007, 12:48:19 PM
I was watching miami ink and everybody that goes into the shop has a reason for getting their tat

alot of women get a tat of their dead child on their back

if i'm banging a chick from behind I don't want to stare at a pic of her dead kid

also if tats weren't "in" nowadays I wonder if all these people would still be tattooing their body with a tat that supposedly means something to them

E
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Sexual Mustard on May 24, 2007, 12:30:27 AM
also if tats weren't "in" nowadays I wonder if all these people would still be tattooing their body with a tat that supposedly means something to them

E

of course not.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: HowieW on May 24, 2007, 05:52:44 AM

I have nothing against putting a tatoo on a bodypart  that has meaning, but I simply prefer to keep my values and philosophy(s) in my mind . It all comes down to one's personal taste.
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: lilwoday09smb on May 24, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
i want to get my dick tattooed but i cant afford it.  ;)
Title: Re: tatoos?
Post by: Earl1972 on May 24, 2007, 12:20:06 PM
I have a rabbit tattooed on my ass but it runs into a hole when i pull my pants down :-X

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