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Title: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Lift Studios on May 19, 2007, 08:56:09 PM
He speaks out:

"WELL, ITS A SAD NEWS, THAT I AM NOT IN TEAM MILOS ANYMORE."
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: sgt. d on May 19, 2007, 08:59:39 PM
I wonder why.......
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Al-Gebra on May 19, 2007, 09:00:39 PM



Vaya con Dios, Silvio. Go with God.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Disgusted on May 19, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
Money talks. No surprise here.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Stavios on May 19, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
monster integrity
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: SirTraps on May 19, 2007, 09:02:41 PM
I wonder why.......

  Dont be a dickhead Shawn  ::)
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Al-Gebra on May 19, 2007, 09:02:58 PM
monster integrity

don't judge Silvio until you've walked in his shoes. >:(
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: musclecenter on May 19, 2007, 09:04:13 PM
Money talks. No surprise here.
Totally agree !!
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Stavios on May 19, 2007, 09:05:33 PM
don't judge Silvio, until you've walked in his shoes. >:(

not judging

I just find it sad that someone turn his back on a friend because of money

Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 19, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
Money talks. No surprise here.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on May 19, 2007, 09:56:19 PM
Silvio just went down a couple notches IMO... i guess its all about the benjamins baby!
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2007, 10:01:05 PM
He speaks out:

"WELL, ITS A SAD NEWS, THAT I AM NOT IN TEAM MILOS ANYMORE."


You act as though this is a SPORT and he's an ATHLETE been cut or traded to an actual "team"!!
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 19, 2007, 10:05:52 PM
You act as though this is a SPORT and he's an ATHLETE been cut or traded to an actual "team"!!

Milos traded him to "Team Suckup" in exchange for a first-round draft pick, a one-time cash payment of undisclosed amount, and a pair of Nasser's used posing trunks. 
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: gordiano on May 19, 2007, 10:07:06 PM
not judging

I just find it sad that someone turn his back on a friend because of money



Exactly.


Money comes, money goes and can be replaced......but "true" friends, you are very fortunate to have, so you should hold on to 'em.


Loyalty seems to be a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 19, 2007, 10:07:53 PM
Milos traded him to "Team Suckup" in exchange for a first-round draft pick, a one-time cash payment of undisclosed amount, and a pair of Nasser's used posing trunks. 

ROTFLMAO ;D!!
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: gordiano on May 19, 2007, 10:11:38 PM
You act as though this is a SPORT and he's an ATHLETE been cut or traded to an actual "team"!!

Don't you just love it when these guys address their schmoes and "sponsors" (not the traditional kind, either) as part of Team "insert name here"?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Stark on May 20, 2007, 12:05:53 AM
Don't you just love it when these guys address their schmoes and "sponsors" (not the traditional kind, either) as part of Team "insert name here"?

;D
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 12:15:35 AM
  Dont be a dickhead Shawn  ::)

ok sirtraps ::)
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: D_1000 on May 20, 2007, 01:29:11 AM
Well, it's not like Milos was doing everything from the goodness of his heart, either. Don't know the details of course, but the man was getting paid from Silvio's earnings.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Lift Studios on May 20, 2007, 05:40:20 AM
You act as though this is a SPORT and he's an ATHLETE been cut or traded to an actual "team"!!
Blame Bush.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: affy on May 20, 2007, 05:51:34 AM
Well, it's not like Milos was doing everything from the goodness of his heart, either. Don't know the details of course, but the man was getting paid from Silvio's earnings.

wtf..is he not a client?  You forget that Milos still has a business to run, he can't train his clients for free forever.  Milos trained him for free until he got on his feet (he said it himself here).

Milos is also a direct result of silvio getting the placements he was getting, where was he before milos?  Exactly.

an event like this really reveals something about silvos character. 
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: rocket on May 20, 2007, 05:57:37 AM
Hah, did any of you actually stop and think for a moment about just how insignificant a cut of silvio's earnings from comps would be?   
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 20, 2007, 06:07:26 AM
Friendship doesn't pay the bills.  Silvo had a tough decision to make so don't knock on him so bad. 
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 06:20:45 AM
poison pizza.  if domino's tells everyone that papa johns serves pizza sales, the whole industry loses sales, as people just associate all pizza with poison.


when the powers that be put the screws to milos, it hurts the sport as a whole.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Lift Studios on May 20, 2007, 06:26:42 AM
poison pizza.  if domino's tells everyone that papa johns serves pizza sales, the whole industry loses sales, as people just associate all pizza with poison.


when the powers that be put the screws to milos, it hurts the sport as a whole.
Doesn't apply here Noid.

Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 20, 2007, 06:28:02 AM
poison pizza.  if domino's tells everyone that papa johns serves pizza sales, the whole industry loses sales, as people just associate all pizza with poison.


when the powers that be put the screws to milos, it hurts the sport as a whole.

Huh???  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: christinafitness on May 20, 2007, 06:28:30 AM
I think Silvio will have no problems finding sponsors, if it's MuscleTech, MuscleGallery, Weider or whoever.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: stuntmovie on May 20, 2007, 07:08:35 AM
Do you think this "turn against Milos" will help his placeings in future contests?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Stavios on May 20, 2007, 07:25:48 AM
Friendship doesn't pay the bills.  Silvo had a tough decision to make so don't knock on him so bad. 

Haha ok "Vince G"
Monster trying to explain why you have no friends
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 20, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Blame Bush.

LOL....of course, I forgot, it's all Bush's fault!
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: pumpher on May 20, 2007, 09:05:25 AM
Isn't there certain similarities between what happened here and what happened with Milos and Mustafa?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: The Ugly on May 20, 2007, 09:08:37 AM
Isn't there certain similarities between what happened here and what happened with Milos and           ?

Fixed.

Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: affy on May 20, 2007, 09:59:29 AM
Fixed.



exactly..hahahhaha
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 10:07:51 AM
Fixed.


Isn't it kinda strange how Milos helps these guys out with money, contracts, a place to live, rides to/from everywhere.........and then something happens and these guys just completely turn their backs on him. No thought of the debt they owe him or what he's done for them. I for one, wouldn't help another person after the first guy did it. >:(
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: The Ugly on May 20, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
Is there a common denominator here?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 10:27:58 AM
Is there a common denominator here?
seems to me the common denominator would be Milos helping others that have nothing but their bodies when they come to this country..........
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: affy on May 20, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
Isn't it kinda strange how Milos helps these guys out with money, contracts, a place to live, rides to/from everywhere.........and then something happens and these guys just completely turn their backs on him. No thought of the debt they owe him or what he's done for them. I for one, wouldn't help another person after the first guy did it. >:(

exactly...and Milos STILL has good things to say about silvio and wishes him the best of luck

thats what you call a class act

imagine if Silvio had done the same to Shawn Ray...lmao his ass would have somehow landed in jail on some unknown charges
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 10:49:18 AM
exactly...and Milos STILL has good things to say about silvo and wishes him the best of luck

thats what you call a class act

imagine if Silvo had done the same to Shawn Ray...lmao his ass would have somehow landed in jail on some unknown charges
charges of golden showers from.........well let's just say "girls"
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Special Ed on May 20, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
I know how Milos feels. Most competitive bodybuilders fit his description of the loner who thinks everyone is out to get him and is deeply suspicious and distrusting of everyone. What this really is is a manifestation and projection of one's own feelings about oneself. Knowing themselves to be disloyal and deceitful, they project that upon everyone they come into contact with, and then use it as justification for their own ill-conceived behavior. The competitive bodybuilder's narcissism manifests itself in the desire to be seen as beautiful, incredible, and genuine by others. In extreme cases of narcissism, people go out of their way to lie and deceive others at great expense (even tossing friendships aside) wholly for the purpose of being seen as the "good one", regardless of the truth. The truth of the matter is that most competitive bodybuilders have little or no friends specifically because of their narcissism. In their delusional minds, everyone exists merely to serve a purpose for themselves: fans to adore them; trainers and nutritionists to provide attentiveness; judges to validate them; girlfriends/wives to support them financially and emotionally; groupies to serve them sexually; and everyone else to serve as genetic inferiors.

Even if Silvio is 100% wrong, he would still convince himself that he is blameless and that Milos and others are 100% at fault. He would still see himself as the "object" being manipulated by others, and not take any responsibility. In reality, all one needs to do to sustain life and happiness is to be honest with everyone. But honesty and narcissism exist at opposite ends of the spectrum. For what the narcissist fears most is not the mirror on the wall but the mirror of their soul.

Special "Sigmund" Ed
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: The Ugly on May 20, 2007, 10:53:30 AM
Seems he's just too nice, helpful, and giving.

St. Milos.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 11:07:10 AM
Milos is a class act.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: The Ugly on May 20, 2007, 11:13:56 AM
Based on the Bob/Shawn exchanges, yeah, all class.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Disgusted on May 20, 2007, 11:32:48 AM
This isn't about whether someone is on someone's "team" or not. This is about Silvio not honoring his word. If I am wrong about any of this then Milos please feel free to correct me. Silvio comes here with nothing and Milos offers to train him for free. Most likely it costs him money. Now, maybe Milos said to Silvio you can pay me back someday if you ever get a contract or become successful with my help whatever. I am sure that Silvio had no problem with that. There is nothing wrong with Milos wanting $ for his services, we all have to make a living somehow. In this case there was no guarentee that Silvio would ever get a contract. Fact is Silvio would most likely never have gotten the chance to be here in the first place without Milos. I disn't see anyone else offering to help him UNTIL he started coming in to shows in shape.

Now here "to me" is the bottom line. Now that Silvio is sitting pretty my question is, is Silvio going to give Milos a percentage that they agreed on or at the very least even offer to pay him back anything that Milos is out as far as time and money? Or is Silvio just going to say shit like sorry Milos I can't play on your team anymore.  :-[ There is NOTHING preventing Silvio from giving Milos what is owed to him!!!!! That part has nothing to do with the IFBB, Sean or Bob. Pretty freaking sad.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: gordiano on May 20, 2007, 12:33:46 PM
This isn't about whether someone is on someone's "team" or not. This is about Silvio not honoring his word. If I am wrong about any of this then Milos please feel free to correct me. Silvio comes here with nothing and Milos offers to train him for free. Most likely it costs him money. Now, maybe Milos said to Silvio you can pay me back someday if you ever get a contract or become successful with my help whatever. I am sure that Silvio had no problem with that. There is nothing wrong with Milos wanting $ for his services, we all have to make a living somehow. In this case there was no guarentee that Silvio would ever get a contract. Fact is Silvio would most likely never have gotten the chance to be here in the first place without Milos. I disn't see anyone else offering to help him UNTIL he started coming in to shows in shape.

Now here "to me" is the bottom line. Now that Silvio is sitting pretty my question is, is Silvio going to give Milos a percentage that they agreed on or at the very least even offer to pay him back anything that Milos is out as far as time and money? Or is Silvio just going to say shit like sorry Milos I can't play on your team anymore.  :-[ There is NOTHING preventing Silvio from giving Milos what is owed to him!!!!! That part has nothing to do with the IFBB, Sean or Bob. Pretty freaking sad.

Good post, man.


I can somewhat relate to the situation. People are GREAT AT TAKING, just not giving....
Title: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: The_Hammer on May 20, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
I just read that you left Team Milos.  It makes me feel great that one of his athletes has finally seen the light and wants to take his career to the next level.  We all see what happens to Milos' athletes.  He'll improve their physiques a little and their placings a little.  However the key word there is "A LITTLE".

I'm inviting you to come join Team Hammer and turn you into a champion.  Like yourself, I'm a great prospect in the bodybuilding world and champions like Victor Martinez have said this.

We train 6 days a week at 24-Hour Fitness or in my basement. 

I am currently training another athlete, my cousin, but I will not neglect any of your training experience.

I can offer you everything Milos can and so much more!  His techniques and philosophies about bodybuilding are so taboo that it's comical when you put it into perspective.   I follow the tried and true methods of the great champions like Arnold and Ronnie Coleman.

With my tutelage YOU CAN become the next Jay Cutler or Victor Martinez.  I guarentee it!

Please PM me so we can discuss the numbers and percentages I require.
Title: Re: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 02:52:31 PM
Silvio did the right thing by leaving "team milos"
Title: Re: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: The_Hammer on May 20, 2007, 02:56:03 PM
The thing about Milos is that he looks at an athletes career like an experiment.  He doesn't care about their financial situation or more importantly their HEALTH.

Every athlete I train I really do care for and I look out for their future.  I know that I may not attain a great status in the industry, but I can live through my athletes physiques and fame.
Title: Re: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: Below Me on May 20, 2007, 03:03:51 PM
Not sure what Silvio will do, but I want to sign up on Team Hammer.
Title: Re: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: The_Hammer on May 20, 2007, 03:05:03 PM
Not sure what Silvio will do, but I want to sign up on Team Hammer.

PM me some stats and pictures.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Chick on May 20, 2007, 03:24:32 PM
This isn't about whether someone is on someone's "team" or not. This is about Silvio not honoring his word. If I am wrong about any of this then Milos please feel free to correct me. Silvio comes here with nothing and Milos offers to train him for free. Most likely it costs him money. Now, maybe Milos said to Silvio you can pay me back someday if you ever get a contract or become successful with my help whatever. I am sure that Silvio had no problem with that. There is nothing wrong with Milos wanting $ for his services, we all have to make a living somehow. In this case there was no guarentee that Silvio would ever get a contract. Fact is Silvio would most likely never have gotten the chance to be here in the first place without Milos. I disn't see anyone else offering to help him UNTIL he started coming in to shows in shape.

Now here "to me" is the bottom line. Now that Silvio is sitting pretty my question is, is Silvio going to give Milos a percentage that they agreed on or at the very least even offer to pay him back anything that Milos is out as far as time and money? Or is Silvio just going to say shit like sorry Milos I can't play on your team anymore.  :-[ There is NOTHING preventing Silvio from giving Milos what is owed to him!!!!! That part has nothing to do with the IFBB, Sean or Bob. Pretty freaking sad.

Thanks for clearing that up, jim....somehow people have ME tied into this mess when all I did was help Silvio AFTER the fact.

Silvi has a different account of wht was said and what was agreed on...his main problem was the Milos wasnt upfront about it, he never suggested that he (Milos ) wasnt entitled to being compensated...just not to the tune of $20,000, or 20% of his contract. Take it for what it's worth...but it is Silvios version.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on May 20, 2007, 03:31:40 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, jim....somehow people have ME tied into this mess when all I did was help Silvio AFTER the fact.

Silvi has a different account of wht was said and what was agreed on...his main problem was the Milos wasnt upfront about it, he never suggested that he (Milos ) wasnt entitled to being compensated...just not to the tune of $20,000, or 20% of his contract. Take it for what it's worth...but it is Silvios version.

It looks like Silvio has very interesting version IF that is what he claims...

Now Silvio - would you want to say something...or you will still like to stay quiet - while stories like this are popping all over the place?

First - I wasn't your manager and NEVER was suppose to talk in your behalf...and now $20000.00...or 20%...???

I am sure people will appreciate hearing your version...I am certainly one of them....
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Cap on May 20, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
I like how so many people come down on Milos when he has helped improve many athletes in this sport.  Who else has done what he has done with athletes and fans?  Maybe he should become like the Chad and balloon everyone up to 300lbs and ruin their careers.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 03:44:04 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, jim....somehow people have ME tied into this mess when all I did was help Silvio AFTER the fact.

Silvi has a different account of wht was said and what was agreed on...his main problem was the Milos wasnt upfront about it, he never suggested that he (Milos ) wasnt entitled to being compensated...just not to the tune of $20,000, or 20% of his contract. Take it for what it's worth...but it is Silvios version.
It looks like Silvio has very interesting version IF that is what he claims...

Now Silvio - would you want to say something...or you will still like to stay quiet - while stories like this are popping all over the place?

First - I wasn't your manager and NEVER was suppose to talk in your behalf...and now $20000.00...or 20%...???

I am sure people will appreciate hearing your version...I am certainly one of them....


these two posts warrent Silvio coming here to clear the air. If he's claiming like Bob says, Milos should explain, HOWEVER if he comes here as says Bob isn't right, Bob will finally exposed.


I do have certain fears Silvio will say what he has to, to save his contracts. Integrity and friendship don't pay the bills. :'(





I still think Sean Rey is a weaselly little bastard. :-*
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 20, 2007, 04:42:23 PM
does silvio have a green card?  LOL
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 04:48:07 PM
does silvio have a green card?  LOL
heh, heh heh ;D
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: Denny Crane on May 20, 2007, 05:34:16 PM
I can never understand why people don't use violence more often to solve their problems. Works every time.

Denny Crane.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: affy on May 20, 2007, 06:38:27 PM
Milos,  don't you find it interesting how every situation you are involved in the other side story is totally different than yours. YOU ARE A LIER.  You said, Silvio had impeccable integrity, now he speaks the truth and it is an "interesting version."  Seek help with you habitual lying.

First of all

Hi Shawn

second...when the hell did silvio speak?  Did i miss anything, Chick was the one who said that Silvio said this entire 20% thing

Silvio can clear everything up if he wanted to...why doesn't he?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 20, 2007, 06:58:56 PM
some enabler said silvio was GIVEN the furniture.  in exchange for what?
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 07:02:26 PM
some enabler said silvio was GIVEN the furniture.  in exchange for what?
oh, you know.............

Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:12:26 PM
First of all

Hi Shawn

second...when the hell did silvio speak?  Did i miss anything, Chick was the one who said that Silvio said this entire 20% thing

Silvio can clear everything up if he wanted to...why doesn't he?

Texasbubba is not shawn. Ron Avidan already cleared that up
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:27:54 PM
Ok Shawn.  ::)

 ::)
Title: Re: Attn: Silvio Samuels Re: Milos Sarcev
Post by: nukkaready on May 21, 2007, 06:16:12 AM
I just read that you left Team Milos.  It makes me feel great that one of his athletes has finally seen the light and wants to take his career to the next level.  We all see what happens to Milos' athletes.  He'll improve their physiques a little and their placings a little.  However the key word there is "A LITTLE".

I'm inviting you to come join Team Hammer and turn you into a champion.  Like yourself, I'm a great prospect in the bodybuilding world and champions like Victor Martinez have said this.

We train 6 days a week at 24-Hour Fitness or in my basement. 

I am currently training another athlete, my cousin, but I will not neglect any of your training experience.

I can offer you everything Milos can and so much more!  His techniques and philosophies about bodybuilding are so taboo that it's comical when you put it into perspective.   I follow the tried and true methods of the great champions like Arnold and Ronnie Coleman.

With my tutelage YOU CAN become the next Jay Cutler or Victor Martinez.  I guarentee it!

Please PM me so we can discuss the numbers and percentages I require.

why don't you take that hammer and hit yourself over the head.
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: ricosauve on May 21, 2007, 07:54:28 AM
Isn't Shawn In jail Yet? ???
Title: Re: Silvio no longer part of Team Milos
Post by: omg on May 21, 2007, 08:56:13 AM
team money!  ;D