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Title: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 06:31:33 AM
Silvio has been the surprise of the year so far, due to his fullness and conditioning.  And he's been able to peak more times, more consistently, than any other pro this year.

Will Silvio be able to keep up this pace without milos' expertise?

Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 20, 2007, 06:35:29 AM
I think his physique growth and balance might suffer as Milos is about the best when it comes to training techniques.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: christinafitness on May 20, 2007, 06:35:49 AM
He was very impressive before, but he was overlocked. I think Silvio will have no problems finding sponsors, if it's MuscleTech, MuscleGallery, Weider or whoever.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Below Me on May 20, 2007, 06:36:52 AM
He'll surpass it.  He has the backing of Weider and alll those training principles and the best supplements available from MuscleTech.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: Lift Studios on May 20, 2007, 06:38:40 AM
Fair question. I guess we'll see next week and the following.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 06:49:55 AM
Good pic.  Insane conditioning.  most guys can't reach that level once a year.  Silvio has done it repeatedly while staying full.

Mustafa and Gustavo both were able to achieve better conditioning with Milos, than they're doing now without him.  Gustavo dropped out of Olympia top 3 and will be lucky to get top 10 this year.  mustafa has fallen off the map completely.

If Silvio drops in a similar fashion, I'm predicting two things will happen.  First, Milos' stock will rise as people will see him as THE reason Silvio was so good so often.  Second, I am guessing Milos will start working quietly with more of the top guys, on a more discreet level. He gets results like nobody (save Dr Nicholls) else can, but it seems like working with him might hurt folks politically, sadly.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: will938 on May 20, 2007, 06:50:27 AM
Fair question. I guess we'll see next week and the following.

That is just outstanding condition and props to you on the photograph :)
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Stavios on May 20, 2007, 08:08:48 AM
Good pic.  Insane conditioning.  most guys can't reach that level once a year.  Silvio has done it repeatedly while staying full.

Mustafa and Gustavo both were able to achieve better conditioning with Milos, than they're doing now without him.  Gustavo dropped out of Olympia top 3 and will be lucky to get top 10 this year.  mustafa has fallen off the map completely.

If Silvio drops in a similar fashion, I'm predicting two things will happen.  First, Milos' stock will rise as people will see him as THE reason Silvio was so good so often.  Second, I am guessing Milos will start working quietly with more of the top guys, on a more discreet level. He gets results like nobody (save Dr Nicholls) else can, but it seems like working with him might hurt folks politically, sadly.

haha YES !!!!!!
Gustavo keeps looking worse and worse since he dropped Milos

his 2004 olympia physique was awesome, he deserved to beat Dexter that day. he was bigger and just as lean,if not more  :o
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: pumpher on May 20, 2007, 08:22:24 AM
I don't think Silvio was as sharp as he was earlier in the year.

I don't get what this "help" entails?  Once you go through the process several times, what can some prep guy add/subtract out of a pro's diet/drug/training routine that he shouldn't have already learned (if he was semi-intelligent)  ???
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: kyomu on May 20, 2007, 09:41:52 AM
Silvio has been always shredded since his early amateur days.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: kyomu on May 20, 2007, 09:55:52 AM
glad you are alive ;D
Thanx. I have a bit legal problem with an employee whom I tryed to fired.
OK Still not resolved,he is completely crazy and take some tranquilizers every day.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 09:59:42 AM
Thanx. I have a bit legal problem with an employee whom I tryed to fired.
OK Still not resolved,he is completely crazy and take some tranquilizers every day.

have you tried threats/intimidation?
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on May 20, 2007, 10:18:26 AM
Silvio was in THE BEST CONDITION yet in New York - before Shawn and Bob did their thing - right before he was getting ready to pump-up back stage...

That is exactly what I was mentioning to all of you - to realize WHAT these two clowns can do and how much they really care for Silvio's BEST interest...

For Silvio's fans - you can bet that Silvio will be IN SHAPE...he was always pretty good...and now he knows "little extra's"...enough to take him very far...

I wish him luck - regardless....
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 10:53:22 AM
To be honest, I dont see why guys need extra help. They have been training and dieting for many years, they should know what works.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Big Worm on May 20, 2007, 11:05:10 AM
Silvio was in THE BEST CONDITION yet in New York - before Shawn and Bob did their thing - right before he was getting ready to pump-up back stage...

That is exactly what I was mentioning to all of you - to realize WHAT these two clowns can do and how much they really care for Silvio's BEST interest...

For Silvio's fans - you can bet that Silvio will be IN SHAPE...he was always pretty good...and now he knows "little extra's"...enough to take him very far...

I wish him luck - regardless....
Good man ..
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: affy on May 20, 2007, 11:27:06 AM
Silvio was in THE BEST CONDITION yet in New York - before Shawn and Bob did their thing - right before he was getting ready to pump-up back stage...

That is exactly what I was mentioning to all of you - to realize WHAT these two clowns can do and how much they really care for Silvio's BEST interest...

For Silvio's fans - you can bet that Silvio will be IN SHAPE...he was always pretty good...and now he knows "little extra's"...enough to take him very far...

I wish him luck - regardless....

well said...class act

unlike some other IFBB pros
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Disgusted on May 20, 2007, 11:37:32 AM
My guess is that Silvios conditioning will most certainly suffer. Even though Silvio knows what he needs to do he will most likey start doubting himself as the show comes closer and I am sure that there will be a lot of guys who are willing to give Silvio there advice which will confuse him even more. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: gordiano on May 20, 2007, 12:07:09 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149789.0;attach=166776;image)

 :o
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 20, 2007, 12:11:19 PM
To be honest, I dont see why guys need extra help. They have been training and dieting for many years, they should know what works.

Listen to Sean Ray.  :D
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on May 20, 2007, 12:46:51 PM
IMO if Silvio is the least bit educated, then he should be plenty able to replicate what Milos taught him. Im kinda bummed about him leaving the team. I found the Flex issue with Silvio, Hide & Luke motivating, and i thought it was cool to see individual athletes who compete against each other, train and push each other.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: phyxsius on May 20, 2007, 03:06:14 PM
Silvio is like the black Rich Gaspari
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 03:16:02 PM
Silvio is like the black Rich Gaspari

in shape, silvio is blessed better than most pros and gaspari had LESS than most pros.  he just got drier than anyone else.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Denny Crane on May 20, 2007, 05:31:54 PM
The current president of the United States is George Walker Bush, son to George Herbert Walker Bush, whose father was the late United States Senator Prescott Bush, who, as an undergraduate at Yale, once wrestled my father in the nude. But that's a story for another day. Let's stick to the issues at hand. Denny Crane.
Title: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 06:28:43 PM
Will he pull a victory now that he's no longer a Team Milos member?



Discuss.......
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: AVBG on May 20, 2007, 06:39:15 PM
Will he pull a victory now that he's no longer a Team Milos member?



Discuss.......


It would be ironic if he did.
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 06:47:53 PM
Is he still doing the Colorado Pro?

Isn't the namesake of that show the same person who served as catalyst for Silvio's departure from the winning Sarcev formula?

We already know the official party line will be "that would have no effect upon..."

But...
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:05:21 PM
Is he still doing the Colorado Pro?

Isn't the namesake of that show the same person who served as catalyst for Silvio's departure from the winning Sarcev formula?

We already know the official party line will be "that would have no effect upon..."

But...

Shawn was no "catalyst"...his timing could have been better, but make no mistake...Silvio is his own man and makes his own decisions based on HIS own opinions and observations.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 20, 2007, 07:11:49 PM
in shape, silvio is blessed better than most pros and gaspari had LESS than most pros.  he just got drier than anyone else.
oh and he's a midget too?
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 07:18:17 PM
Shawn was no "catalyst"...his timing could have been better, but make no mistake...Silvio is his own man and makes his own decisions based on HIS own opinions and observations.
OK, Bob ::)
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
Is he still doing the Colorado Pro?

Isn't the namesake of that show the same person who served as catalyst for Silvio's departure from the winning Sarcev formula?

We already know the official party line will be "that would have no effect upon..."

But...

 ::)
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 07:44:09 PM
Shawn was no "catalyst"...his timing could have been better, but make no mistake...Silvio is his own man and makes his own decisions based on HIS own opinions and observations.

I didn't know Shawn's job was "rule enforcer".

Does he report on all IFBB violations, or just those committed by people working with his adversaries?
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: saucetradomous on May 20, 2007, 07:47:31 PM
I didn't know Shawn's job was "rule enforcer".

Does he report on all IFBB violations, or just those committed by people working with his adversaries?

Hahahahaha
I haven't seen you this frisky in a good while. 

Shawn's a rat what more can you say?
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:48:39 PM
I didn't know Shawn's job was "rule enforcer".

Does he report on all IFBB violations, or just those committed by people working with his adversaries?

He's not. He's friends with Silvio and was trying to help....his intentions were good, his timing...not so much.
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2007, 07:51:19 PM
He's not. He's friends with Silvio and was trying to help....his intentions were good, his timing...not so much.

ahh okay.
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:53:20 PM
ahh okay.

 ::)
Title: Re: Colorado Pro/Silvio
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2007, 07:53:36 PM
ahh okay. ::)

fixed
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: kyomu on May 21, 2007, 12:43:17 AM
have you tried threats/intimidation?

What do you mean exactly?
Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: honest on May 21, 2007, 01:10:39 AM
no doubt he has the genetics but if he can let himself smooth out after a conversation with S Ray and Blob Chic, then he is mentally unstable and probably requires Milos to load him properly and look over him the last few days and perfect it, in my opinion he will go the same way as Mustafa, pro bodybuilders are like children, they need constant supervision, its no secret Jay Cutler and Dorian got there as much from being strong mentally as good as their physiques and genetics were, lets face it both guys defeated guys with a lot better Genetics, why mentally strong, Silvio is weak minded, he needs babysitting, No Milos no place unless he gets Chad, lets face it hes already made some bad decisions with all the gay 4 pay shit, maybe Bob Chic and Shawn will look after him, Bobs to stupid and Shawn wouldnt help his mother so hes lost, hell be back giving Derek Anthony some competition by next year.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Luke Wood on May 21, 2007, 07:20:50 AM
Silvio was in THE BEST CONDITION yet in New York - before Shawn and Bob did their thing - right before he was getting ready to pump-up back stage...

That is exactly what I was mentioning to all of you - to realize WHAT these two clowns can do and how much they really care for Silvio's BEST interest...

For Silvio's fans - you can bet that Silvio will be IN SHAPE...he was always pretty good...and now he knows "little extra's"...enough to take him very far...

I wish him luck - regardless....

GREAT POST!
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: Luke Wood on May 21, 2007, 07:23:00 AM
IMO if Silvio is the least bit educated, then he should be plenty able to replicate what Milos taught him. Im kinda bummed about him leaving the team. I found the Flex issue with Silvio, Hide & Luke motivating, and i thought it was cool to see individual athletes who compete against each other, train and push each other.

these guys are like family to me!! we all are in this team. It was an honour and a pleasure to shoot with 2 great champions like this!!
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 21, 2007, 07:26:11 AM
but if he can let himself smooth out after a conversation with S Ray and Blob Chic, then he is mentally unstable

I disagree.

He was given news that it was liekly he was going to lose what, a 100,000 contract?

He's probably imagining his entire bodybuilding career, his car payment and mortgage, disappear before his eyes.  I think ANY of us would have a nice cortisol spike in a situation like that.  I lost $5 in the laundry this morning and I was pretty bummed.
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?
Post by: jaejonna on May 21, 2007, 07:28:53 AM
Why is it that when BB get some outside stressors in thier life, they loose all compsure and eat pizza ?
If someone told me that I lost my contract before 'game time' I would work harder to earn a 'new' one... I guess not everyone has that 'champion' mentality...
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: BayGBM on July 11, 2007, 01:48:45 PM
>Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos help?

Yep.  Saw him at Gold's Venice today... Still has amazing size and conditioning!  :o
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: Shawn Ray on July 11, 2007, 01:58:04 PM
Silvio got Kicked out of Milos' Gym by Milos then went to Gold's Venice and trained with Charles Glass and moved up from consecutive 5th place finishes to 3rd place. :o
Things that make you go , "Hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm"
Silvio is his own man, which is why he left Milos in the first place ask him, he'll tell anyone who asks.  ;D
One thing Silvio will not do is "Sugar" coat the details, you gotta respect that.
He is top 10 at the O for sure this year!
Peace,
S. Ray
Title: Re: Will Silvio be able to attain his recent stellar condition'g without Milos h
Post by: triple_pickle on July 11, 2007, 02:03:32 PM
these guys are like family to me!! we all are in this team. It was an honour and a pleasure to shoot with 2 great champions like this!!

what did you "shoot" with them?
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: muscleforlife on July 11, 2007, 02:10:38 PM
Silvio got Kicked out of Milos' Gym by Milos then went to Gold's Venice and trained with Charles Glass and moved up from consecutive 5th place finishes to 3rd place. :o
Things that make you go , "Hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm"
Silvio is his own man, which is why he left Milos in the first place ask him, he'll tell anyone who asks.  ;D
One thing Silvio will not do is "Sugar" coat the details, you gotta respect that.
He is top 10 at the O for sure this year!
Peace,
S. Ray

To give Milos his due respect....He was there helping Silvio hone his skills and talents before anyone else.

Sandra

Sandra
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 11, 2007, 02:12:09 PM
i thought i heard Milos say recently that Silvio was welcome at Koloseum anytime.
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: genrommel74 on July 11, 2007, 02:21:47 PM
i thought i heard Milos say recently that Silvio was welcome at Koloseum anytime.

On PBW milos said that silvio was welcome to train at the Koloseum, but he could not train with milos
Title: Re: Can Silvio keep his conditioning without Milos' help?
Post by: mwbbuilder on July 11, 2007, 02:56:30 PM
where have been 240?

did the money dry up in bodybuilding? is it not worth the work?