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Title: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 05:50:22 AM
It was awesome!

Dave, Mike, I am sending you our thoughts via pm due to the fact that "I" had a lot to say, lol. 

Plus I don't wanna give any of the documentary away.  It is a must see for those who really wanna see what people put themselves through to work towards a Pro Card.  It is not a "how to" DVD.

We truly enjoyed it!  We received it Friday and watched it both Friday night and again Sunday.

Thank you for sharing your life via film during this process.

Laura ~n~ Mike
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 10:12:57 AM
I have watched it twice so far (just received it this weekend).....
 wow!........what a refreshing change from the over 100 "training DVD'S i own
it tells an actual story (imagine that!)
and..............there is no Victor El-homo in it this time (good move Mike and DAVE!)
If you wanna see something other than endless "sets and reps" this is for you
it tells the story of a competitive bodybuilder (Dave) getting ready for the biggest contest of his life
(that ever elusive Pro-Card)
all the prep and details of pre-contest life in all it's glory are showcased here
low carb days/etc ....all the while it's peppered with Dave's unique humor and wit
Dave also trains/get's ready a former nemesis (Lance) and this is very interesting/informative
Dave's dedication/drive and focus are intense and insane (in the opening sequence when Dave had to rush home from the supermarket in 7 mins for his next meal or he would in his words (shrink!) i laughed out loud.
This is such an inside look into our world (bodybuilding) it's scary
(Laura was laughing the whole time saying i was just like Dave in the things i said and did)
drama excitement .............everything that goes into preparing for a show is there
even someone who isn't into bodybuilding would be fascinated by this (move?) documentary,

this has never been done before...an inside look into the world of bodybuilding thru a bodybuilders eyes
This is a "video diary" as one man get's ready his assault to the pro-ranks of bodybuilding
the highs and lows ups and downs.....family, friends (the death of someone i knew)
not for one millisecond is it boring....(it's actually playing on the TV as i type this and i keep glancing towards the TV to watch it!)
you gotta see it is all ill say!
fucking excellent excellent job guys!!

Mike Arvilla
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
Teaser clip............


Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 10:24:11 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: the shadow on May 21, 2007, 10:25:17 AM
It was awesome!

Dave, Mike, I am sending you our thoughts via pm due to the fact that "I" had a lot to say, lol. 

Plus I don't wanna give any of the documentary away.  It is a must see for those who really wanna see what people put themselves through to work towards a Pro Card.  It is not a "how to" DVD.

We truly enjoyed it!  We received it Friday and watched it both Friday night and again Sunday.

Thank you for sharing your life via film during this process.

Laura ~n~ Mike
hey cheri post that avatar pic of yours..
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 10:27:35 AM
hey cheri post that avatar pic of yours..


 ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:06:55 PM
Thanks Mike and Laura,

I knew you guys would "get it". I knew you'd understand what went into the making of this thing. This is a very personal documentary, for all involved, and it's great to hear that you appreciated the honesty that everyone brought to the project.

I'll be posting a teaser on YouTube shortly.

Mike Pulcinella

P.S. NICE pic of Laura!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 12:09:03 PM
epic lack of triceps.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:11:14 PM
epic lack of triceps.

Whatever. Epic sexiness, if ya ask me!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: MAXX on May 21, 2007, 12:12:30 PM
what does this guy do for a living?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 12:12:53 PM
Whatever. Epic sexiness, if ya ask me!
you're a woman?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:14:18 PM
you're a woman?

huh?? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 12:15:41 PM
huh?? I don't get it.
you said "epic sexiness" so i was just assuming that you're a woman, if you're a guy are you admtting to a fondness for the penile tissue?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 12:15:56 PM
Whatever. Epic sexiness, if ya ask me!
roflmao, I believe (well I hope, lol) SF was talking about Dave.   ;)

SF, you need to watch the film.  Dave looked amazing and if not for that damn cramping.... >:(

...well those who watch the film will know the rest.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 12:18:03 PM
roflmao, I believe (well I hope, lol) SF was talking about Dave.   ;)

SF, you need to watch the film.  Dave looked amazing and if not for that damn cramping.... >:(

...well those who watch the film will know the rest.
oh no hahahahahhaa, i wasn't talking about you Laura you look fantastic as usual, hot, hot, hot.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:23:23 PM
you said "epic sexiness" so i was just assuming that you're a woman, if you're a guy are you admtting to a fondness for the penile tissue?

Oh!! Ha haaaaa! I thought you were busting on Laura. My bad. You can bust on Dave all you want.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:33:37 PM
MIKE  your narrative voice was perfect for this film!............im glad you focused just on Dave's story this time
(the only problem i had with RTB1 was that went it to many directions,victor,Adam etc)

i hate to admit it but Dave has charisma
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 12:40:22 PM
MIKE  your narrative voice was perfect for this film!............im glad you focused just on Dave's story this time
(the only problem i had with RTB1 was that went it to many directions,victor,Adam etc)

i hate to admit it but Dave has charisma
..and hootspa(spelling?)!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:40:42 PM
MIKE  your narrative voice was perfect for this film!............im glad you focused just on Dave's story this time
(the only problem i had with RTB1 was that went it to many directions,victor,Adam etc)

i hate to admit it but Dave has charisma

Dave is a good subject for a videographer, I'm very lucky in that respect. I also must say that I took your advice very seriously the last time and attempted to focus this one more on him. Thanks again for your input.

P.S. I'm trying to get voice-over work so if anybody knows someone who needs a narrator for a project, I'm good and I'm cheap!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:41:20 PM
..and hootspa(spelling?)!

hootspa?? wtf is a hootspa??!?!?!?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
..and hootspa(spelling?)!

Yes, he does! And it's chutzpa. A Yiddish word. Don't ask me how I know that! My brain is full of useless information.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 12:43:20 PM
Ok.....looks interesting


but what's with the training form?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:44:07 PM
hootspa?? wtf is a hootspa??!?!?!?

You never heard that term? It means "guts" or "balls". What they used to call "moxie" in the old days. You gotta watch more black and white movies from the 40's.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:44:25 PM
Dave is a good subject for a videographer, I'm very lucky in that respect. I also must say that I took your advice very seriously the last time and attempted to focus this one more on him. Thanks again for your input.

P.S. I'm trying to get voice-over work so if anybody knows someone who needs a narrator for a project, I'm good and I'm cheap!


Glad i could help!!

   now about Raising The Bar 3 ........................ ........ ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:45:28 PM
Ok.....looks interesting


but what's with the training form?

It's not an instructional DVD. Dave doesn't mean for you to imitate him. That's just his style...good or bad.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:46:40 PM
Ok.....looks interesting


but what's with the training form?

His "Sloppy form" was always at the end of his sets.........after going to failure with "proper form"

you can't argue with the results ................the dude is huge!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 12:47:18 PM
Ok.....looks interesting


but what's with the training form?









oh, jeez. here we go again with the form!! please stop posting that training clip!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:47:31 PM

Glad i could help!!

   now about Raising The Bar 3 ........................ ........ ;)

Ha ha! Should I be heading down to FL with my camera?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 12:48:10 PM
keeps training like that & he will be out with an injury

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 12:48:42 PM
epic lack of triceps.








lol!!! yo, wassup squad!?!?!? what took you so long? you usually insult me by the second or third post!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:48:45 PM
Ha ha! Should I be heading down to FL with my camera?

Yea!!.............and i got the title already!


"Lowering The Bar"   :D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:48:50 PM








oh, jeez. here we go again with the form!! please stop posting that training clip!!!

I swear I'm gonna take it down if this thread erupts into another form debate!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:49:51 PM
I swear I'm gonna take it down if this thread erupts into another form debate!!

 get's em talking about the film tho..................... .
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
Ok.....looks interesting


but what's with the training form?

yeah....i was laughing my ass off watching him attemping to do leg extensions....his knees did not even bend, not sure what you would call those?? hip flexor extensions??

the vid looks good though other than the typical big guy just caring about weight and not form....
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 12:50:36 PM
His "Sloppy form" was always at the end of his sets.........after going to failure with "proper form"

you can't argue with the results ................the dude is huge!







thanks for trying to defend me, mike....but, no....my form looks like that the whole set!!! lol!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 12:52:57 PM






thanks for trying to defend me, mike....but, no....my form looks like that the whole set!!! lol!!

    :-X
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 12:53:04 PM
yeah....i was laughing my ass off watching him attemping to do leg extensions....his knees did not even bend, not sure what you would call those?? hip flexor extensions??

the vid looks good though other than the typical big guy just caring about weight and not form....






ill bet you 1 million dollars that you would not make it through 3 sets of those extensions. and i guarantee your quads would be sore for week! i know they dont look like they should work. i admit that....but they DO!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Top Dog on May 21, 2007, 12:54:18 PM
Hey, it's Cheri Lane everybody.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 12:56:12 PM
yeah....i was laughing my ass off watching him attemping to do leg extensions....his knees did not even bend, not sure what you would call those?? hip flexor extensions??

the vid looks good though other than the typical big guy just caring about weight and not form....

You've missed the entire point of the clip if all you can focus on is form. I'm taking it off YouTube.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
Hey, it's Cheri Lane everybody.
;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 12:57:51 PM





ill bet you 1 million dollars that you would not make it through 3 sets of those extensions. and i guarantee your quads would be sore for week! i know they dont look like they should work. i admit that....but they DO!

leg extensions in my opinion are the most painful exercise, i agree with you on that one....i just prefer to bend my knees so it is actually an "extension" and not and isometric exercise....and no, my quads look nothing like yours, you are definitely a beast
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 12:58:46 PM
You've missed the entire point of the clip if all you can focus on is form. I'm taking it off YouTube.

that is not all i focused on ass clown, it is all i mentioned.....

and i could give 2 shits if you took it off youtube
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:00:03 PM
Doesn't matter....I already have the genius form copied
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:00:21 PM
Dave im less than 5 weeks out now

im behind schedule (obviously) u think i can pull it together in time?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/mike5weeksout.jpg)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:01:07 PM
this is interesting
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 01:02:50 PM
this is interesting

you gotta put the hip flexor extensions on here....
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:03:05 PM
this is interesting

Who cares about his form?!?!??!?

he's huge and about to turn pro!!

(something he does must be working)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 01:03:39 PM
I can't wait to get the DVD!  Mike put it in the mail on Thursday so hopefully it arrives this week - if not, early next week would be nice.

INTERVIEWS WITH DAVE AND MIKE:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinellainterview05052007.html

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mikepulcinellainterview05052007.html
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:03:55 PM
you gotta put the hip flexor extensions on here....

working on it
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 01:05:39 PM
working on it

oh fuck dude....my coworkers are turning my way wondering why i'm dyin over here....
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 21, 2007, 01:07:24 PM
It's not an instructional DVD. Dave doesn't mean for you to imitate him. That's just his style...good or bad.

You mean turning PULLDOWNS into SEATED PULLEY ROWS isn't good form?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:07:53 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:09:44 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 01:10:58 PM
all kidding aside, the dude looks pretty good but if he keeps training like this he will be eating a box of ibprofen a day and end up like ol tom prince
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 01:13:14 PM
that is not all i focused on ass clown, it is all i mentioned.....

and i could give 2 shits if you took it off youtube

If that's all you mentioned then that's what you noticed the most and I still say you missed the point of the clip. And that's MR. Assclown to you!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 01:16:59 PM
Some pictures of Dave:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/davepulcinella
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 01:21:20 PM
Why do you guys do this?   ::)

If something is working for someone, then leave it alone...of course unless you do it the "correct" way and are bigger than he is, OH and have at least won a National Level show and on your way to PRO status or already a PRO...then please, by all means continue to ridicule.  ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 01:21:40 PM
get's em talking about the film tho..................... .

I know.  ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
Why do you guys do this?   ::)

If something is working for someone, then leave it alone...of course unless you do it the "correct" way and are bigger than he is, OH and have at least won a National Level show and on your way to PRO status or already a PRO...then please, by all means continue to ridicule.  ;)

Maybe when they see the rest of the documentary then they'll get it.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:23:35 PM
I know.  ;)

u know what they say "any publicity is good publicity".................
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: MAXX on May 21, 2007, 01:25:30 PM
good interview Matt.

this is very true
Quote
If you could make any changes to bodybuilding so that it is more accepted by the general public, what would those changes be?

Bodybuilding will never be accepted by the general public and we need to stop pretending that theres this magical "something" we can do to make it be accepted. The average person can't relate. End of story.


Quote
What do you think about drugs in bodybuilding?

The drugs are necessary to achieve anything of any significance in this sport. Unfortunate but true. The good lord did not give us the requisite amounts of hormones to do this naturally. It's just that simple. Amounts and dosages continue to escalate, of course. As the sport progresses, so do the drugs amounts. Scary! I remember a guy at a show once telling me he was using three grams a week and that blew my mind. Now that is a low end number. 


 :o
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:25:56 PM
Is Dave still laughing at my picture..............is that why he can't answer my question?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 01:28:01 PM
Why do you guys do this?   ::)

If something is working for someone, then leave it alone...of course unless you do it the "correct" way and are bigger than he is, OH and have at least won a National Level show and on your way to PRO status or already a PRO...then please, by all means continue to ridicule.  ;)

i know i know....maybe i should have eased up but mark my words, this guy will have a severe injury in the next 5 years.....then you remember to use your:

"If something is working for someone, then leave it alone"
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 01:30:19 PM
If that's all you mentioned then that's what you noticed the most and I still say you missed the point of the clip. And that's MR. Assclown to you!

it amuses me how you KNOW what i noticed most....i actually mentioned it because someone else commented on it before me...you are a smart one aren't you ???
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 01:34:50 PM
leg extensions in my opinion are the most painful exercise, i agree with you on that one....i just prefer to bend my knees so it is actually an "extension" and not and isometric exercise....and no, my quads look nothing like yours, you are definitely a beast





ok, you just impressed me by being very open minded./ i do agree that my form does almost look "isometric" on extensions. BUT...when you do that movement with the 300 lb stack...for 50 reps...you will experience a deep quad burn like you never have!!

then youll notice, on the drop set i use a greater range and slower reps. the combination is unbeatable.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 01:35:27 PM
i know i know....maybe i should have eased up but mark my words, this guy will have a severe injury in the next 5 years.....then you remember to use your:

"If something is working for someone, then leave it alone"
Dave has been doing this for over 25 years.  I am sure he knows when he is pushing it too much and does what he can to prevent injuries.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Parker on May 21, 2007, 01:37:07 PM
It was awesome!

Dave, Mike, I am sending you our thoughts via pm due to the fact that "I" had a lot to say, lol. 

Plus I don't wanna give any of the documentary away.  It is a must see for those who really wanna see what people put themselves through to work towards a Pro Card.  It is not a "how to" DVD.

We truly enjoyed it!  We received it Friday and watched it both Friday night and again Sunday.

Thank you for sharing your life via film during this process.

Laura ~n~ Mike

Uhh, I think Melvin Anthony's was better....cause he actually won his pro card, and looked damn awesome in the process. That truly was a "How to" DVD.

I saw this guy in Musclemag, looked good, but the lack of arms and leg detail puzzled me ???
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
Dave im less than 5 weeks out now

im behind schedule (obviously) u think i can pull it together in time?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/mike5weeksout.jpg)








im happy with everything but your midsection. i think if you try to accelerate your fat loss to come in in 5 weeks, you will be loose around the belly button. that is my only concern. the rest of you looks tight though.

i would do the show in 5 weeks, but then stay on your diet and hit another in about 12. just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:41:22 PM







im happy with everything but your midsection. i think if you try to accelerate your fat loss to come in in 5 weeks, you will be loose around the belly button. that is my only concern. the rest of you looks tight though.

i would do the show in 5 weeks, but then stay on your diet and hit another in about 12. just my 2 cents.


hmmmmm..........yea im 247 lbs there  at 6 ft 1 "(last year i barely made the Heavyweight class ..i competed at 200 lbs)

im going to give it my all tho...........we will see what happens

thanks Dave!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 01:41:35 PM
all kidding aside, the dude looks pretty good but if he keeps training like this he will be eating a box of ibprofen a day and end up like ol tom prince







with all due respect...this is my 30th year in the gym.......i take no painkillers. ive been training using the form in that clip for about 20 of those years.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:43:13 PM
oh fuck dude....my coworkers are turning my way wondering why i'm dyin over here....

sorry...I just was busy for 20 minutes....here's the last
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
Why do you guys do this?   ::)

If something is working for someone, then leave it alone...of course unless you do it the "correct" way and are bigger than he is, OH and have at least won a National Level show and on your way to PRO status or already a PRO...then please, by all means continue to ridicule.  ;)


Unless...pulling/tearing muscles is your goal...then what's the point of this style of training?

This just gives guys/gals starting out the "wrong idea"

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 01:46:02 PM
6 ft 1

Aren't you 6'1 and 1/2?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:47:38 PM
oh btw.....

it's obvious why this guy has not earned (nor probably ever) a Pro Card.



Really no big deal though....he seems to be enjoying what he does. 

In the end...thats all that should matter
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:48:30 PM
Aren't you 6'1 and 1/2?

No fucking clude dood!!

(Laura measured me at the gym and this time said i was around 6 ft1 and a half)

id rather be a lil shorter for bodybuilding............ ........so i say 6 ft 1


Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 21, 2007, 01:50:02 PM
HA HA HA HA....you guys and your "good form"! Hey, while you guys are all staring into the mirror making sure your barbell curls all look like the ones you saw Cory do on Bodyshaping Dave was out winning big contests....HA HA MORONS! What Dave is doing is called wringing every last drop out of his muscles on every set. Believe me I know, I have trained with him from the very beginning, he does train hard and it's never about ego and noise it's about results and winning. He's the most honest hard working bodybuilder you'll ever find. RTB is a cool project, hands down. Well worth the money
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 01:50:14 PM
Uhh, I think Melvin Anthony's was better....cause he actually won his pro card, and looked damn awesome in the process. That truly was a "How to" DVD.

I saw this guy in Musclemag, looked good, but the lack of arms and leg detail puzzled me ???

RTB2 is not a "how to". It's a documentary about the sacrifices anyone makes when they try to do something out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 01:50:47 PM
No fucking clude dood!!

(Laura measured me at the gym and this time said i was around 6 ft1 and a half)

id rather be a lil shorter for bodybuilding............ ........so i say 6 ft 1




Gunter also says 6'1...bloody liars.

It is better to be a little shorter though if you are a bodybuilder - no 6'1 bodybuilder wishes to be 6'2 if he wants to be competitive.  5'10 is tall for a bodybuilder lol.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:52:42 PM
HA HA HA HA....you guys and your "good form"! Hey, while you guys are all staring into the mirror making sure your barbell curls all look like the ones you saw Cory do on Bodyshaping Dave was out winning big contests....HA HA MORONS! What Dave is doing is called wringing every last drop out of his muscles on every set. Believe me I know, I have trained with him from the very beginning, he does train hard and it's never about ego and noise it's about results and winning. He's the most honest hard working bodybuilder you'll ever find. RTB is a cool project, hands down. Well worth the money


you're a master in murdering the English language


 ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 21, 2007, 01:53:27 PM
HA HA HA HA....you guys and your "good form"! Hey, while you guys are all staring into the mirror making sure your barbell curls all look like the ones you saw Cory do on Bodyshaping Dave was out winning big contests....HA HA MORONS! What Dave is doing is called wringing every last drop out of his muscles on every set. Believe me I know, I have trained with him from the very beginning, he does train hard and it's never about ego and noise it's about results and winning. He's the most honest hard working bodybuilder you'll ever find. RTB is a cool project, hands down. Well worth the money

OK buddy. I maintain 225 with a 6 pack year round at 5ft9 drug free. Apparently my using good form is a mistake, obviously if I trained like shit like he does going far too heavy and using swinging movements I will suddenly have a "real" physique. Hopefully I can have small arms narrow shoulders and nonexistant spinal erectors as well  ::)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 01:54:48 PM
BTW...the video states at the end that it is NOT an educational video.   ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 01:56:08 PM
OK buddy. I maintain 225 with a 6 pack year round at 5ft9 drug free. Apparently my using good form is a mistake, obviously if I trained like shit like he does going far too heavy and using swinging movements I will suddenly have a "real" physique. Hopefully I can have small arms narrow shoulders and nonexistant spinal erectors as well  ::)

How is Dave "narrow" ?? and these are "small arms" ?!?!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:56:53 PM
BTW...the video states at the end that it is NOT an educational video.   ;D

Should have it as a warning in the front of the video


& to include as well.....


"don't underestimate the powers of the handicapped"


 ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 01:57:51 PM
Should have it as a warning in the front of the video


& to include as well.....


"don't underestimate the powers of the handicapped"


 ;)

Are you going to volunteer your photo for that cover?  ;)

Behave knny.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
Are you going to volunteer your photo for that cover?  ;)

Behave knny.


Sure...but only for your eyes only

 :-*
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 21, 2007, 02:00:18 PM
The funniest thing.....it's only bodybuilding so who the fuck cares. 1000 guys train 1000 different ways and then you all go on stage in your panties and say "look at me". Why all the arguing?

OK buddy. I maintain 225 with a 6 pack year round at 5ft9 drug free. Apparently my using good form is a mistake, obviously if I trained like shit like he does going far too heavy and using swinging movements I will suddenly have a "real" physique. Hopefully I can have small arms narrow shoulders and nonexistant spinal erectors as well  ::)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 02:00:31 PM
Should have it as a warning in the front of the video


& to include as well.....


"don't underestimate the powers of the handicapped"


 ;)


It is at the beginning. First thing you see.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 02:01:18 PM
It is at the beginning. First thing you see.

good

now STFU

 ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 21, 2007, 02:01:24 PM
HA HA HA HA....you guys and your "good form"! Hey, while you guys are all staring into the mirror making sure your barbell curls all look like the ones you saw Cory do on Bodyshaping Dave was out winning big contests....HA HA MORONS! What Dave is doing is called wringing every last drop out of his muscles on every set. Believe me I know, I have trained with him from the very beginning, he does train hard and it's never about ego and noise it's about results and winning. He's the most honest hard working bodybuilder you'll ever find. RTB is a cool project, hands down. Well worth the money

i guess your right stevo, that is how king kamali built his beautiful physique...ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 02:01:36 PM
It is at the beginning. First thing you see.


Also warns you "not to dress like Dave""

that made me laugh
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 21, 2007, 02:05:03 PM
I don't know who King kamali is.

i guess your right stevo, that is how king kamali built his beautiful physique...ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 02:06:36 PM
oh btw.....

it's obvious why this guy has not earned (nor probably ever) a Pro Card.



Really no big deal though....he seems to be enjoying what he does. 

In the end...thats all that should matter

Dave will probably turn pro this year by winning the overall in the Masters division in the North Americans.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 21, 2007, 02:09:03 PM
Dave will probably turn pro this year by winning the overall in the Masters division in the North Americans.

They had better get that on film!!

(RTB-3)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Matt C on May 21, 2007, 02:09:36 PM
OK buddy. I maintain 225 with a 6 pack year round at 5ft9 drug free. Apparently my using good form is a mistake, obviously if I trained like shit like he does going far too heavy and using swinging movements I will suddenly have a "real" physique. Hopefully I can have small arms narrow shoulders and nonexistant spinal erectors as well  ::)

Everyone who trains with intensity will develop as their genetics allow.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 21, 2007, 02:16:14 PM
Dave has a whole room of narrow shoulder and non-existant spinal erector trophies in his house.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 02:26:51 PM
Dave will probably turn pro this year by winning the overall in the Masters division in the North Americans.

sure

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: affy on May 21, 2007, 02:30:18 PM
the best part of the video is when Dave is drinking liquid diarrhea from his moms vintage Tupperware

now that shit is hardcore...hahahaha

btw...dude looks massive regardless of how he trains.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 03:17:09 PM
How is Dave "narrow" ?? and these are "small arms" ?!?!









oh, and here is a picture of my "non existent spinal erectors" lol
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 03:18:58 PM

Sure...but only for your eyes only

 :-*








"only for your eyes only" ?!?!? and steve is the one who murders the english language?!?! lol!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 03:21:11 PM
all kidding aside Dave you have a great physique, you've obviously worked hard.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 03:21:35 PM
the best part of the video is when Dave is drinking liquid diarrhea from his moms vintage Tupperware

now that shit is hardcore...hahahaha

btw...dude looks massive regardless of how he trains.







LMAO!!! "VINTAGE TUPPERWARE"......that is funny!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Bast000 on May 21, 2007, 03:22:21 PM
Wow you're a natural phenom!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 03:23:28 PM
all kidding aside Dave you have a great physique, you've obviously worked hard.







you rock, squad!!!! i really would love to train with you sometime. we could do a workout that combines our two training styles. itll be awesome!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 03:47:41 PM
They had better get that on film!!

(RTB-3)

Uuuuhhh..what do you think??   :)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 21, 2007, 03:48:08 PM
Making fun of a man's physique is one thing, but I for one am not going to sit here and let anyone insult Dave's Tupperware!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 03:55:02 PM
Making fun of a man's physique is one thing, but I for one am not going to sit here and let anyone insult Dave's Tupperware!

Hey Dave, mom wants her bowl back!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 03:56:57 PM
oh btw.....

it's obvious why this guy has not earned (nor probably ever) a Pro Card.



Really no big deal though....he seems to be enjoying what he does. 

In the end...thats all that should matter








well, im glad its so obvious to you, knny, because its apparently NOT that obvious to the ifbb judges that have placed me first in my class 2 years in a row at the north americans ( a PRO qualifier)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:06:45 PM







"only for your eyes only" ?!?!? and steve is the one who murders the english language?!?! lol!

I was expressing for her eyes...."only" you dumb fuck   ::)





 ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:07:44 PM





LMAO!!! "VINTAGE TUPPERWARE"......that is funny!!!

yeah....he should quit his day job & become a comedian

 ::)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:08:34 PM






you rock, squad!!!! i really would love to train with you sometime. we could do a workout that combines our two training styles. itll be awesome!

& oil each up afterwords

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
I was expressing for her eyes...."only" you dumb fuck   ::)





 ;D
where does all this anger and hate for Dave come from "knny"? Dave stood up for you the other day, a couple of guys on the internets said they saw you coming out of your gym eating a post workout peanut butter and huge black dong sandwich and Dave immediately said, "bullshit, knny doesn't eat peanut butter".
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:10:24 PM







well, im glad its so obvious to you, knny, because its apparently NOT that obvious to the ifbb judges that have placed me first in my class 2 years in a row at the north americans ( a PRO qualifier)

wow....I am really impressed
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:11:09 PM
where does all this anger and hate for Dave come from "knny"? Dave stood up for you the other day, a couple of guys on the internets said they saw you coming out of your gym eating a post workout peanut butter and huge black dong sandwich and Dave immediately said, "bullshit, knny doesn't eat peanut butter".

must of been you.....I don't work out

dipshit

 ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: marcus on May 21, 2007, 04:13:00 PM
What the hell are up with these biceps?  ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149966.0;attach=166947;image)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
What the hell are up with these biceps?  ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149966.0;attach=166947;image)
Dave's arms are pretty damn big, are they shaped like Flex Wheeler's or Ronnie Coleman's? no, but Dave would be the first one to tell you that, they're still pretty big.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 21, 2007, 04:17:01 PM
Dave's arms are pretty damn big, are they shaped like Flex Wheeler's or Ronnie Coleman's? no, but Dave would be the first one to tell you that, they're still pretty big.

on a serious note SF, why did you stop dieting?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 21, 2007, 04:17:47 PM
on a serious note SF, why did you stop dieting?
i'll start again once i hit 260 in a few months. ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 04:18:21 PM
What the hell are up with these biceps?  ???


left bicep looks messed
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 21, 2007, 05:31:12 PM
Making fun of a man's physique is one thing, but I for one am not going to sit here and let anyone insult Dave's Tupperware!
Hey Dave, mom wants her bowl back!
Ok, "I" thought that was funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Pollux on May 21, 2007, 05:38:29 PM
It's available for purchase now?  ???
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 05:55:00 PM
I was expressing for her eyes...."only" you dumb fuck   ::)





 ;D








wow!!! you are really mean!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 05:56:18 PM
where does all this anger and hate for Dave come from "knny"? Dave stood up for you the other day, a couple of guys on the internets said they saw you coming out of your gym eating a post workout peanut butter and huge black dong sandwich and Dave immediately said, "bullshit, knny doesn't eat peanut butter".







LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 21, 2007, 06:00:19 PM
What the hell are up with these biceps?  ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149966.0;attach=166947;image)









let me clear it up for you....my arm genetics blow!!! always have, always will. i have oddly shaped arm muscles.. i do the best with what ive been given...hope this helps.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 21, 2007, 06:01:22 PM
It's available for purchase now?  ???


Just need a few more weeks to get it duplicated and to the distributors. I'll let you know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Pollux on May 21, 2007, 06:21:18 PM

Just need a few more weeks to get it duplicated and to the distributors. I'll let you know. Thanks.

Oh sure. Give it to these people.  :P
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: knny187 on May 21, 2007, 06:22:47 PM







wow!!! you are really mean!!

I did include a smiley

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on May 22, 2007, 08:33:51 AM

 ;)

Very sexy lady!

The Beef
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: omg on May 22, 2007, 08:53:24 AM
this guy needs to see a phychiatrist, he has OCD
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: the shadow on May 22, 2007, 08:56:35 AM

 ;)
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*.thanks mike.i think so cheri should do modelling.this fitness crap is not meant for sweet ass chicks like cheri..
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 09:39:38 AM
Ok..................wher e was i?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 10:32:04 AM
Ok..................where was i?
Ummm...the dentist?  ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 10:34:54 AM
Ummm...the dentist?  ;D

Have you seen bigach yet?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 11:15:40 AM
Have you seen bigach yet?








what IS that!!!!!!???
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 11:17:23 AM







what IS that!!!!!!???

My newest client .....................i have been working with him for a full year now

in those pictures he is about 3-4 weeks out (i have him doing a national qualifer)

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 11:19:10 AM
Have you seen bigach yet?
I dunno who this guy is, but he needs to shave his nether regions.  >:(
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 11:19:21 AM
Should i drop his sodium intake?
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 11:24:19 AM
My newest client .....................i have been working with him for a full year now

in those pictures he is about 3-4 weeks out (i have him doing a national qualifer)












DUDE!!!! HES READY NOW!!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 11:25:47 AM









DUDE!!!! HES READY NOW!!!!


Fuck!!!........................ ......can he hold that condition for 3 more weeks!!

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 11:27:07 AM
You guys are so bad  :-X
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 11:39:45 AM

Fuck!!!........................ ......can he hold that condition for 3 more weeks!!









ITLL BE TOUGH!!! that kind of grainy conditioning is fleeting.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 11:46:38 AM






ITLL BE TOUGH!!! that kind of grainy conditioning is fleeting.



I know!!......................th is kid can do it tho

all heart..................
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 11:53:23 AM
Why do you photoshop him? Like you're so much better. Mr. Chicken legs on steroids. At least he's competing in natural shows.
Hey Xerxes, he's just playing with photoshop and then having fun with photoshop pictures...and he does the same with his own pictures. 

You on the other hand are making fun of this guy's real nose and ethenticity.
epic arab nose ;D habibi
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 12:09:09 PM
Ethen what?

You dont have to defend your man  ::). Haha.
Sorry, typo   :D

Ethnicity

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

And ya I do.  Cuz I luv him  ;D
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 12:25:59 PM
this thread has gone slightly off topic.....
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
this thread has gone slightly off topic.....
Just a tad.   ;D

I blame society.   >:(



NOW, let's get back on track here.   Everyone...when Raising the Bar 2 hits the shelves...buy it.  It really is a well put together DVD and great documentary.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Steve Pulcinella on May 22, 2007, 12:34:06 PM
EPIC PUBES
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: The Squadfather on May 22, 2007, 12:36:20 PM
epic living in the backroom of his brother and fathers Libyan Gyro shop.
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 22, 2007, 12:36:46 PM
this thread has gone slightly off topic.....

LOL! We've lost 'em, Dave!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: No Patience on May 22, 2007, 12:55:22 PM
back to the subject, Dave has taken several jabs on this thread and yet he keeps his cool

that is what it takes to be successful in life whether a bodybuilder or whatever else....much props to Dave for taking the shit like a champ....cannot say i could have remained so composed
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 01:04:34 PM
back to the subject, Dave has taken several jabs on this thread and yet he keeps his cool

that is what it takes to be successful in life whether a bodybuilder or whatever else....much props to Dave for taking the shit like a champ....cannot say i could have remained so composed







thank you. i just dont take myself that seriously. plus, there are so many other facets to my life other than bodybuilding....

plus, as the squadfather always says....."calm down....it aint that serious"
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 22, 2007, 01:07:46 PM






thank you. i just dont take myself that seriously. plus, there are so many other facets to my life other than bodybuilding....

plus, as the squadfather always says....."calm down....it aint that serious"

That's true...but "assclown" hurt.  ;)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 22, 2007, 01:08:30 PM
That's true...but "assclown" hurt.  ;)






youre so sensitive!!! lol!....ASSCLOWN!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 22, 2007, 01:24:23 PM
...speaking of asses...

Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 12:44:46 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/ronnie19fz.gif)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 12:46:45 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/cheribyTech.gif)
 :o
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 23, 2007, 12:48:04 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/cheribyTech.gif)
 :o
oh god  ::)  that is so old.  :P
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 12:49:13 PM
oh god  ::)  that is so old.  :P
:P


oldie but goodie!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: MAXX on May 23, 2007, 12:50:57 PM
Have you seen bigach yet?
hey chickenlegs.

why are you trying to put down a natural that looks 10 times better than you?

and you're on roids to. pathetic..
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 12:53:41 PM
hey chickenlegs.

why are you trying to put down a natural that looks 10 times better than you?

and you're on roids to. pathetic..


"ouch"..............ur gunna hurt my feelings!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/5weeks1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/mike5weeksout.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/5weeks.jpg)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
 :-*








 
      Re: Hey all, Just wanted to introduce myself....
« Reply #150 on: May 22, 2007, 05:04:33 PM » Quote 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote from: michael arvilla on May 22, 2007, 05:01:44 PM
all kidding aside..............diete d down you look very good bigach!


bigach:
"Thank you Michael.  I appreciate it the kind words, but I still have a long way to go to get to where I wanna be! "
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 23, 2007, 01:38:47 PM
oh god  ::)  that is so old.  :P






mmmmm.....mmmmm....its new to ME!!!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 01:49:37 PM





mmmmm.....mmmmm....its new to ME!!!

LOL!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 23, 2007, 01:55:02 PM
Laura on GET-BIG


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Laura/Cheriongetbig.jpg)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: eastcoastbbman on May 23, 2007, 02:06:14 PM
Laura on GET-BIG


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Laura/Cheriongetbig.jpg)








dude!! please!! stop!! part of my anatomy is "gettingbig"!!! lol!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: gatomjp on May 23, 2007, 04:02:29 PM
Laura on GET-BIG


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Laura/Cheriongetbig.jpg)

Damn!! That's SEXY!! Now you're just showing off, Arvilla!
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: Laura Lee on May 23, 2007, 07:01:05 PM



dude!! please!! stop!! part of my anatomy is "gettingbig"!!! lol!
oh my, talk about "raising the bar"  :-X  ;D





Thanks Dave & Mike.  Your compliments are much appreciated.    :)
Title: Re: Raising the Bar 2
Post by: michael arvilla on May 25, 2007, 12:56:48 PM
what's up?