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Getbig Female Info Boards => Womens Physique, Bodybuilding, Wellness and Training => Topic started by: Bluto on May 24, 2007, 09:59:33 AM
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I don't understand it ???
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Maybe because the women turn themselves into men with excessive drug use. ???
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Maybe because the women turn themselves into men with excessive drug use. ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy3dH2vIAT8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy3dH2vIAT8)
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End of thread. :-X
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Maybe because the women turn themselves into men with excessive drug use. ???
But isn't the same thing thats important to the men equally as important to the women? dont they train, diet, try to pack on muscle, get symmetry etc just the same?
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The difference is that men can't turn themselves with drugs into women.
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The difference is that men can't turn themselves with drugs into women.
That actually is a good point.
Lisa
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I am not against women's bodybuilding at all, but the figure/fitness girls presently are starting to get more muscular than what the past days women's bodybuilders were....There is point you have to say enough is enough....
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I don't understand it ???
Yes, you do. Bodybuilding attracts and is supported by a lot of insecure people. Insecure people have a long history of lashing out at what is around them because what they find in the mirror is too painful to deal with.
Women are easy targets; bodybuilding women even more so. A woman who has more discipline, dedication, and muscular development than the puny men boys who complain about them are ripe, easy targets.
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Oh yes offcourse, its jealousy ::), yourn idiot.
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I think people are not "against" it. They just don't like it.
I don't like to watch people playing cards on ESPN. But I am not against it.
Bodybuilding (male & female) is sport, but also a beauty contest. Tastes are different.
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beauty contest ::)
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The difference is that men can't turn themselves with drugs into women.
thats besides the point.
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Yes, you do. Bodybuilding attracts and is supported by a lot of insecure people. Insecure people have a long history of lashing out at what is around them because what they find in the mirror is too painful to deal with.
Women are easy targets; bodybuilding women even more so. A woman who has more discipline, dedication, and muscular development than the puny men boys who complain about them are ripe, easy targets.
men want to stop women to do what the men do. and for no reason. that's pretty weird.
just because a muscular woman might not please THEIR woman ideal, like that has anything to do with it?
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men want to stop women to do what the men do. and for no reason. that's pretty weird.
just because a muscular woman might not please THEIR woman ideal, like that has anything to do with it?
Explain what you mean, please.
Lisa
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men want to stop women to do what the men do. and for no reason. that's pretty weird.
just because a muscular woman might not please THEIR woman ideal, like that has anything to do with it?
They can do as they please I will never be against it, I will never be interested by it either...When women go to far it is repulsive to me, but that is just a personal opinion I will not disrespect them because of it....
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yes, no more freaks in women bodybuilding would be boring.
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Explain what you mean, please.
Lisa
if two women want to build as much muscle as possible and compete against eachother then thats ok in my book.
whether they look femine or not isnt my concern, and it sure as hell isnt theirs.
so why people are against female bodybuilding for that reason is beyond me.
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Thank you for your perspective Bluto. ;)
Not all female bodybuilders look like men btw.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks to gordiano for proving my point. he think women only have the right to bodybuild and compete if they PLEASE HIM.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahaha great post.
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those are all men in that clip :-\
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let the ladies flex. leave em alone. them girls work hard. no need to hate on em. but yeah, i guess some are nasty.
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if two women want to build as much muscle as possible and compete against eachother then thats ok in my book.
whether they look femine or not isnt my concern, and it sure as hell isnt theirs.
so why people are against female bodybuilding for that reason is beyond me.
Because its bad for the sport... thats why. If bodybuilding wants to be supported more, they need to start looking toward what the general public thinks of these kind of physiques. Most people think it is pretty grotesque what male bodybuilders look like these days, but for a woman to look the same way is going completely overboard and will NEVER EVER have any public support for turning women into men. Men don't inject estrogen into their systems to become more feminine in this sport, they inject male hormones. Its completely backwards in the publics preception for a woman to inject male hormones to become more masculine just for the sake of adding more muscle. Female BBing has to go. Its bad for the sport. Nobody wants to see a 200+ pound shredded shim. NOBODY.
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Because its bad for the sport... thats why. If bodybuilding wants to be supported more, they need to start looking toward what the general public thinks of these kind of physiques. Most people think it is pretty grotesque what male bodybuilders look like these days, but for a woman to look the same way is going completely overboard and will NEVER EVER have any public support for turning women into men. Men don't inject estrogen into their systems to become more feminine in this sport, they inject male hormones. Its completely backwards in the publics preception for a woman to inject male hormones to become more masculine just for the sake of adding more muscle. Female BBing has to go. Its bad for the sport. Nobody wants to see a 200+ pound shredded shim. NOBODY.
there you go!
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Because its bad for the sport... thats why. If bodybuilding wants to be supported more, they need to start looking toward what the general public thinks of these kind of physiques. Most people think it is pretty grotesque what male bodybuilders look like these days, but for a woman to look the same way is going completely overboard and will NEVER EVER have any public support for turning women into men. Men don't inject estrogen into their systems to become more feminine in this sport, they inject male hormones. Its completely backwards in the publics preception for a woman to inject male hormones to become more masculine just for the sake of adding more muscle. Female BBing has to go. Its bad for the sport. Nobody wants to see a 200+ pound shredded shim. NOBODY.
oh yeah?
FUCK THE GENERAL PUBLIC
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its about woman liberty
to break the chains
to build as much muscle they want
and no man
no man
is gonna tell em "too much muscle honey" "hey now youre not femine enough"
fuck those men who try to hold the women down
DO YOU HEAR ME
HOLLA IF YOU HEAR ME
(http://www.feministcampus.org/images/egreeting/rosie_the_riveter.jpg)
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Are you saying you like to see shims in skimpy bathing suits with pecs instead of boobs? Bluto, your a closet case ;D Just come out and say your gay already... and Bluto, women say that pro BBer men have too much muscle all the time... so do we need to start some rediculous "revolution"? No... because its true.
And BTW, the general public is what is going to decide the future of this sport. So to keep it alive, your precious "man-things" that pass for women need to go, and these bloated mass monsters need to go back to the golden age look. No more slin, igf-1 and massive amounts of hormones. That is the way to keep this sport alive... and if you dont like it, FUCK YOU, cause as Tyler Durdan says,
"Your polishing the brass on the Titanic."
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Are you saying you like to see shims in skimpy bathing suits with pecs instead of boobs? Bluto, your a closet case ;D Just come out and say your gay already...
And BTW, the general public is what is going to decide the future of this sport. So to keep it alive, your precious "man-things" that pass for women need to go, and these bloated mass monsters need to go back to the golden age look. No more slin, igf-1 and massive amounts of hormones. That is the way to keep this sport alive... and if you dont like it, FUCK YOU, cause as Tyler Durdan from fight club says,
"Your polishing the brass on the Titanic."
what i like to see or not is not the point. should women be allowed to box? i say yes. does that mean im gonna watch them box? no.
besides the point.
STICK TO THE POINT
or shut the fuck up before i let some of those muscular women beat your little ass
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'd be more afraid of them knocking me out with their gigantic clits that can be passed for a dick :-X
Hooray for Bluto! Advocater of the right to be a shim to win at a professional sport! You are a hero and a gentleman, indeed.
The point, my ignorant friend, is that women's bodybuilding has propably brought more heat on the sport than anything. If you want that to keep going on and have all professional bodybuilding organizations be forced to dispand because of the GENERAL PUBLICS OPINION, keep going on your little crusade. Like it or not, the general public decides the future of this sport.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'd be more afraid of them knocking me out with their gigantic clits that can be passed for a dick :-X
Hooray for Bluto! Advocater of the right to be a shim to win at a professional sport! You are a hero and a gentleman, indeed.
The point, my ignorant friend, is that women's bodybuilding has propably brought more heat on the sport than anything. If you want that to keep going on and have all professional bodybuilding organizations be forced to dispand because of the GENERAL PUBLICS OPINION, keep going on your little crusade. Like it or not, the general public decides the future of this sport.
general public can fuck themselves.
women bodybuilders dont need them
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I am against it because it's fucking nasty.
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Doesn't this belong into the V Board?
Hedge can you move it please?
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general public can fuck themselves.
women bodybuilders dont need them
Wrong again, hero. Women's bbing needs all the help it can get... with shows drawing thin crowds and the crap prize money, most of these shims are doing porn to earn a living... why? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT A 200+ lb shredded she-man. Thats the way it is... deal with it.
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Case in point... am I against women building muscle? No. Am I against them taking massive amounts of male hormones, changing them from women to men in order to accomplish this? Yes, and so is the vast majority.
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Wrong again, hero. Women's bbing needs all the help it can get... with shows drawing thin crowds and the crap prize money, most of these shims are doing porn to earn a living... why? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT A 200+ lb shredded she-man. Thats the way it is... deal with it.
they dont need prize money. the glory is enough. its enough for the majority of sports in the world.
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I'm through arguing about this little crusade. I don't need to... it will die out anyway, because that is what people want to happen... like it or not. and Bluto will throw a tantrum.
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I'm through arguing about this little crusade. I don't need to... it will die out anyway, and Bluto will throw a tantrum.
guess what, women are through with you!
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When I went to the Arnold I was quite surprised how small the women bodybuilders were (males too) the magazines make them appear so much bigger. If you were to check weigh-ins of the hvy wts (females) they usually come in between 160-170...far cry from 200lbs. 99% of the women on stage were attractive, feminine, graceful and poised. I got a chance to speak to Heather Policky, Kim Perez, Toni Norman, Ann Riviccio, Colette Nelson, Betty Pariso, Yaxine, Lisa Aukland and a few others; none sounded like or looked liked men. The ladies evening show had far better posing than the men and just as many in attendance.
I'd like to see bodybuilding get more attention from the public also, however if it means that the sport will come under the gun like baseball and football for testing I'd rather it stay like it is. Leg day in the off season is a bich without deca.
Females are not bad for the sport, athletes that abuse drugs, athletes that kill people and ignorant people on boards are bad for the sport (males and females included).
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Whatever you say, champ ;D I'm happily married. By the way... you never answered my question... are YOU through with women? Seems so by how you are backing shims so much... you single bluto? You been that way for a while? Is that why you are going on and on about this? Are you hoping some shim on this board will see it and contact you so you can make shim babies and act out your gay fantasies? Just wondering...
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99,9% of people bashing female bodybuilders never seen them on a show or in person
they base their judgement on that THEY dont find them attractive - and because of this they should throw away their lifestyle and dreams of competiting in bodybuilding? yeah right ::)
the nerve of some people.
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When I went to the Arnold I was quite surprised how small the women bodybuilders were (males too) the magazines make them appear so much bigger. If you were to check weigh-ins of the hvy wts (females) they usually come in between 160-170...far cry from 200lbs. 99% of the women on stage were attractive, feminine, graceful and poised. I got a chance to speak to Heather Policky, Kim Perez, Toni Norman, Ann Riviccio, Colette Nelson, Betty Pariso, Yaxine, Lisa Aukland and a few others; none sounded like or looked liked men. The ladies evening show had far better posing than the men and just as many in attendance.
I'd like to see bodybuilding get more attention from the public also, however if it means that the sport will come under the gun like baseball and football for testing I'd rather it stay like it is. Leg day in the off season is a bich without deca.
Females are not bad for the sport, athletes that abuse drugs, athletes that kill people and ignorant people on boards are bad for the sport (males and females included).
Well said Az. Progress is being made in the right direction in that regard... its all these women "mass monsters" who abuse drugs running around that is drawing all of the negative attention to womens bodybuilding.
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what if the people want to see mass monsters?
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what if the people want to see mass monsters?
Because most DONT. Accept you. If women want to look like Corey Everson, I have no problem with it, and most other people don't as well... and she was, by the way, the athlete that defined women's bodybuilding. If women's bbing keep going back to that look, then by all means keep it going. But seems to me that you are the only one supporting these she-men mass monsters, Bluto.
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Because most DONT. Accept you. If women want to look like Corey Everson, I have no problem with it, and most other people don't as well... and she was, by the way, the athlete that defined women's bodybuilding. If women's bbing keep going back to that look, then by all means keep it going. But seems to me that you are the only one supporting these she-men mass monsters, Bluto.
why would people wanna see male mass monsters but not female?
sounds to me like youre just guessing and making things up
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Sounds to me like your gay... you never answered my questions by the way... and I never said that most people love seeing male mass monsters either, did I bluto? give it up. Your owning yourself, once again...
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Sounds to me like your gay... you never answered my questions by the way... and I never said that most people love seeing male mass monsters either, did I bluto?
so youre thinking the olympia is doing pretty bad huh? im sure there was much more money in the competition 40 years ago right?
why are we even having this discussion if youre this clueless? did you join the site today cause i sure as hell cant remember ever seeing you post before
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You've never seen me post because you got cum in your eye from your boyfriend and can't see at all. The Olympia is a freakshow now, headed downhill if things don't change... thats exactly why they put out the gut mandate, or do you think people wanna see that as well? Ask Lee Priest if he thinks that the Olympia pays as much as other sports... he'll have a great answer for ya. Thats why he started racing cars... because even that pays better than the Olympia. Yeah the O pays more than it did years ago, but everybody in the world has a larger bank account than years ago too, dipshit. The money has gone up with the times... not the popularity.
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PEOPLE...
You have to forgive Bluto today... he is not quit himself..
I'm THIS CLOSE to BAN someone !!! >:( >:( >:(
See what I mean?
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You've never seen me post because you got cum in your eye from your boyfriend and can't see at all. The Olympia is a freakshow now, headed downhill if things don't change... thats exactly why they put out the gut mandate, or do you think people wanna see that as well? Ask Lee Priest if he thinks that the Olympia pays as much as other sports... he'll have a great answer for ya. Thats why he started racing cars... because even that pays better than the Olympia. Yeah the O pays more than it did years ago, but everybody in the world has a larger bank account than years ago too, dipshit. The money has gone up with the times... not the popularity.
So by your logic the money will come by itself along with the times. Good. then we dont have to worry about that bit.
And who cares what Lee Priest says, he's been whining about this and that for all his career.
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Bottom line still remains the same - men and women wants to build mass and they want to compete and so they should. Period.
Anyone for men doing it, but not women, can go fuck himself. Or go back to Saud Arabia where women are not allowed to drive cars.
If you're against women bodybuilding you're ANTI AMERICAN.
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hahahahahaha then I guess I'm "anti-American" bluto. You are a patriot and a saint. ::) Do you keep changing the topic of your thread so you can get more attention that your parents didn't give you? your arguement is pathetic. I'm done... and I'll go with the fact that your gay since you never answered any of my questions.
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hahahahahaha then I guess I'm "anti-American" bluto. You are a patriot and a saint. ::) your arguement is pathetic. I'm done...
are there only American woman bodybuilder?
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are there only American woman bodybuilder?
According to Bluto, yes.
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(http://www.shapingsf.org/ezine/womens/1970s/adavis.gif)
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WTF was that???? Hahahahahaha
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hahahahahaha then I guess I'm "anti-American" bluto. You are a patriot and a saint. ::) Do you keep changing the topic of your thread so you can get more attention that your parents didn't give you? your arguement is pathetic. I'm done... and I'll go with the fact that your gay since you never answered any of my questions.
That's the second time you say "you're gone" and that you're a gay basher isn't surprising - you hate women, and you hate homosexuals and anything else you consider a threat.
You're a dinosaur. Your time is gone.
This is the new world and you dont like it one bit!
Go, with your un-american ways. To countries that support your old stone age ideals.
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That's the second time you say "you're gone" and that you're a gay basher isn't surprising - you hate women, and you hate homosexuals and anything else you consider a threat.
You're a dinosaur. Your time is gone.
This is the new world and you dont like it one bit!
Go, with your un-american ways. To countries that support your old stone age ideals.
So you are saying you like gay people than mate?
that's cool...
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So you are saying you like gay people than mate?
that's cool...
Yes unlike you who is a racist and a gay basher.
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Yes unlike you who is a racist and a gay basher.
mate whats wrong with you, don't you like me anymore, are we not cool anymore bro?
Can you unmerge my threads please and publicly apologise for abusing your modpower on the E please?
Cheers mate ;)
For all getbig: Bluto accidently merged some of my threads that were perfectly good ;) but he will apologise soon
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I never said I didn't like gay people, did I Bluto? I have a gay friend, and he's a cool kid... I hate women, you say? Is that why I married one? I was just asking you if you were in fact gay, because it is what you are implying... didn't mean to offend ya there, buddy ;D If you are so liberal and outspoken about the subject, then why do you get all uptight (no pun intended) when I ask if you are gay? Just a question, buddy. I love women... don't know what to make of the shemales you seem to have some fetish for though...
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I never said I didn't like gay people, did I Bluto? I have a gay friend, and he's a cool kid... I hate women, you say? Is that why I married one? I was just asking you if you were in fact gay, because it is what you are implying... didn't mean to offend ya there, buddy ;D If you are so liberal and outspoken about the subject, then why do you get all uptight (no pun intended) when I ask if you are gay? Just a question, buddy. I love women... don't know what to make of the shemales you seem to have some fetish for though...
He has a hard time today mate, I'm waiting for his phone call, I'm acctually concerned that he will do something to himself...
Ron can you check up on Bluto please?
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I'm shedding a tear for him as we speak... and Bluto, I am in fact done with the whole female bodybuilding subject... I'm just havin fun talking about you now. ;D Now don't get all suicidal on us now... we're there for ya buddy :)
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I'm shedding a tear for him as we speak... and Bluto, I am in fact done with the whole female bodybuilding subject... I'm just havin fun talking about you now. ;D Now don't get all suicidal on us now... we're there for ya buddy :)
don't worry bro I have everything under control he promised me not to jump before we had a little chat.
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You are a true friend, Stark ;D
I'm out...
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You are a true friend, Stark ;D
I'm out...
always there for my budies ;)
Peace
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Be strong bodybuilding sisters!
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Case in point... am I against women building muscle? No. Am I against them taking massive amounts of male hormones, changing them from women to men in order to accomplish this? Yes, and so is the vast majority.
I'm a supporter of female bodybuilding, but am also disturbed by the amount of steroids and HGH taken by some (noticeable by the obvious side effects). I remember when I was young and naive I was amazed at how muscular some of the woman were and chalked it up to simple genetics and hard work in the gym. For a man to achieve such a level of muscularity would be admirable, but for a woman it was almost unimaginable. I didn't learn until later that woman were taking these drugs to reach that level of muscularity. It was very disappointing.
In any case, to Swoody or anyone else who cares to respond: Hypothetically, would you support a female bodybuilder who could obtain naturally the amount of size and muscularity now only attributable to the use of drugs? In other words, is it the level of size and muscularity that is disturbing, or simply the drug use?
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Good question... its mainly women using male hormones that is disturbing. If a woman were to obtain that kind of muscularity naturally (which is impossible) she wouldn't sound like a man, look like a man with the facial changes, and basically still look normal. Like I said earlier... I really doubt Cory Everson used the insane amount of hormones women bb'ers of today use... and she defined the sport. She looked great. I actually like women that have some muscle... gymnasts for example. But to turn a woman into a man is what is disturbing.
Here is a link to a pic of Corey...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/1999/CoryEverson2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/1999/everson.htm&h=450&w=430&sz=23&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=YGl6OQARVhxPXM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcorey%2Beverson%2Bpics%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/1999/CoryEverson2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/1999/everson.htm&h=450&w=430&sz=23&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=YGl6OQARVhxPXM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcorey%2Beverson%2Bpics%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX)
And here is a link to 1996-1999 Ms. Olympia Kim Chizevsky...
http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/kim-chizevsky.html (http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/kim-chizevsky.html)
Which one is more disturbing to you?
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You make a number of valid points, however I still tend to disagree although the stereotypical saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder holds a lot of weight. One point that stands out is that Cory Everson's popularity reached such a level that espn2 allowed her to host her own TV workout show when the series called Gotta Sweat aired every weekday morning from the middle of 1995 to 1998 or 99.
Your arguement was proven when you compare Cory Everson to KimChizevsky although she didn't always push the envelope if you recall watching the Ms.O contests for number of years during the 1990's when women's bodybuilding was still filled with some credibility.
At this point where we are in the 21st Century when there are more things to be concerned about, I have honestly given up on female bodybuilding since all the meaningful competitors that were in the IFBB are retired and didn't get the credit they deserved.