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Title: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: flexingtonsteele on May 27, 2007, 12:51:28 PM
Discuss.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: ThaRealist on May 27, 2007, 12:54:06 PM
I believe he does...Wolf has alot of room to expand his body and it is only going to get better looking with the more mass he packs on...Heath's physique could start getting messy really quick if he started packing on the size to fast...
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Nuge on May 27, 2007, 12:54:49 PM
Potential is difficult to assess.

I think both have exceptional potential. My two favorite up-and-coming bbers.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: SteelePegasus on May 27, 2007, 12:56:12 PM
the word potential is an interesting word..potential and $1 can't buy a slick of pizza these days

take any activity...are the best in the world those with the most potential or those that over come their weakness through determination and hard work?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: ThaRealist on May 27, 2007, 12:56:52 PM
I also believe Heath will always have a better quality of muscle though...He has great genetics for muscle density...
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: larger_format on May 27, 2007, 01:01:45 PM

 Dennis Wolf has a better chance of losing his hair,  than Phil Heath does
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: timfogarty on May 27, 2007, 01:07:50 PM
In 2005 Dennis Wolf won the IFBB World Championships, a drug tested contest who's rules state that the athlete must be 3 years drug free.  So theoretically he's been able to win an IFBB pro contest with only 2 years of drug use.    Heath has never entered a drug tested contest, so theoretically he's been using a lot longer.

theoretically
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Disgusted on May 27, 2007, 02:31:03 PM
I also believe Heath will always have a better quality of muscle though...He has great genetics for muscle density...

And how do you figure that he has better "quality" and better density.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: davidpaul on May 27, 2007, 02:38:23 PM
And how do you figure that he has better "quality" and better density.


hes has "felt" both there muscles.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Disgusted on May 27, 2007, 02:39:16 PM

hes has "felt" both there muscles.

 ;D
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: affy on May 27, 2007, 03:13:36 PM
wolf is amazing..and i thought he should have won the NY Pro

but heath has calves

/thread...lol
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: IceCold on May 27, 2007, 03:18:14 PM
In 2005 Dennis Wolf won the IFBB World Championships, a drug tested contest who's rules state that the athlete must be 3 years drug free.  So theoretically he's been able to win an IFBB pro contest with only 2 years of drug use.    Heath has never entered a drug tested contest, so theoretically he's been using a lot longer.

theoretically



heath has great genetics, but has been using the level of a top guy since he started training.

Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Naked4Jesus on May 27, 2007, 03:19:41 PM
Discuss.

Wolf dwarfs Heath and always will.  Heath has better shape but both have aesthetically pleasing physiques.  

It's all about the Wolf bitches!!!!!  
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: 20inch calves on May 27, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
ITS HARD TO SAY. PHIL CAN GET RIPPED THATS FOR SURE BUT WE JUST DONT KNOW HOW BIG HE CAN GET WITHOUT LOSING HIS LINES AND CONDITIONING. WOLF ON THE OTHER HAND HAS GOTTEN BIGGER WHICH HAS MADE HIM BETTER ALREADY. I THINK WOLF CAN HOLD MORE WEIGHT THEN PHIL AND WILL ALWAYS BE BIGGER. WOLF CALVES ARE HIS ONLY REAL BAD BODY PART. IKNOW SOME WILL SAY HIS BACK IS BUT ITS REALLY NOT THAT BAD WHEN HE FLEXES IT..AND ITS PRETTY WIDE.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 27, 2007, 03:50:17 PM
Wolf has room for more mass.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: HeartofSteel on May 27, 2007, 03:51:12 PM
This is a great topic, personally I'm a fan of both but I'm more towards the look of Dennis W. I think he has a great structure where as Heath structure could go down-hill if he packs on too much all too soon, actually the same goes for Dennis. But his wide shoulders and flaring legs could garner so much attention over someone that doesn't have that.

-HOS
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: andydude00 on May 27, 2007, 10:58:10 PM
Anyone have any pics of the IFBB 2005 World competition that Wolf won?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: timfogarty on May 28, 2007, 01:05:15 AM
Anyone have any pics of the IFBB 2005 World competition that Wolf won?

I don't know, perhaps the IFBB website (http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/shanghai2005.htm) ?

(http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/shanghai2005/photo16.jpg)

personally, I like the Russian
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: SteelePegasus on May 28, 2007, 03:06:54 AM
and to think that King place ahead of Dennis last year  ???
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: phyxsius on May 28, 2007, 03:13:53 AM
I don't know, perhaps the IFBB website (http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/shanghai2005.htm) ?

(http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/shanghai2005/photo16.jpg)

personally, I like the Russian

nice statues.. They must cost a lot
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: MikeThaMachine on May 28, 2007, 05:41:42 AM
Yes I think Wolf has more potential, he has lots of great parts and his back has endless possibilities.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: webcake on May 28, 2007, 05:55:29 AM
Haha they look like bronze statues. Yeah Wolf will be unbeatable in a couple of years, especially if he is able to pack on more size whilst maintaining his tight waist. Future Mr O for sure.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Parker on May 28, 2007, 09:48:30 AM
Discuss.

Hard to tell. Even though Phil won his first two pros shows.... I kinda think they are equal, but Denis has high lats, and hie tends to get real, real small, from a few weeks out.. Phil seems to have fuller muscles, but is narrow.

wolf is amazing..and i thought he should have won the NY Pro

but heath has calves

/thread...lol
its a sham really, Wolfe seems to have gone to the JOJ school of calf training
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Dballn247 on May 28, 2007, 10:04:10 AM
I agree that Dw has more potential.  Phil Heath already has a pretty complete physique.  His arms look great, size shape and conditioning.  DW has a lot more to work with and could be completely insane in the next few years. 
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: MAXX on May 28, 2007, 10:09:58 AM
Phil has narrow clavicles. Dennis has shitty lower back and calves.

hmmm hard to pick.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: sgt. d on May 28, 2007, 04:28:12 PM
sorry Phil owns Wolfy any day of the year 8)
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: pumpher on May 28, 2007, 06:21:34 PM
It depends on who the judge of the day is.

Wolf has more potential because of a bigger frame, but Heath is more complete and has more advanced development now.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: jude2 on May 28, 2007, 07:18:23 PM
Phil has narrow clavicles. Dennis has shitty lower back and calves.

hmmm hard to pick.
Yes but you can improve your lower back and calves.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: johnnytosh on May 28, 2007, 08:01:47 PM
It depends on who the judge of the day is.

Wolf has more potential because of a bigger frame, but Heath is more complete and has more advanced development now.


Agreed,
It all starts with Shoulder width. Thats the ONLY reason Shawn Ray didnt win a Sandow.
I put my money on Wolf. He looks like Superman, and he has what Peter McGough used to call "Brutal Beauty". He Will bring up his calves. Heath cannot get Wider without losing aesthetics.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: affy on May 28, 2007, 08:23:14 PM
everyone screaming clavicle width needs to remember that even levrone had extreemly narrow clavicles and still looked amazing

heath has to find a way to get bowling ball delts like levrone and he'll be gold....and with time he will

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/kevinlevrone4.jpg)



IMO calves can't be improved, and thats something Wolf will always be lacking.  You either have them or  you don't.  (Coleman is of course an exception)
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: jude2 on May 28, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
I have seen guys improve their calves.  Plus that pic looks narrow of Kevin.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: affy on May 28, 2007, 09:28:35 PM
Plus that pic looks narrow of Kevin.

exactly..and he was one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time

narrow clavicles isn't the end of the world...even ronnie coleman doesn't have the widest clavicals
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: west coast willie on May 29, 2007, 07:44:03 AM
wolf is better today. but heath will blow up in a couple years into something unbeatable. that boy will be damn good.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: 210 and growing on May 29, 2007, 08:31:06 AM
What height are they both?
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: ThaRealist on May 29, 2007, 10:52:19 AM
What height are they both?

Wolf - 5'11"
Heath - 5'9"
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: corinth on May 29, 2007, 11:06:52 AM
Dennis Wolf is about 10 pounds away from being a multiple times Mr. Olympia.

Wolf is the future.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: ThaRealist on May 29, 2007, 11:09:24 AM
Dennis Wolf is about 10 pounds away from being a multiple times Mr. Olympia.

Wolf is the future.

In another 2 years Wolf will be the posterchild of how bodybuilding should be and the masses will aspire to be like him....Ending the era of the mass monster and bring back what bodybuilding should be....
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: cgcgraded on May 29, 2007, 03:18:55 PM
wolf
could he achieve his full potential?
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/aach0132-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 29, 2007, 04:53:26 PM
wolf
could he achieve his full potential?
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/aach0132-1.jpg)


WOW the second pic, that could be the craziest bber we have ever seen if he gets there. Damn.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: shiftedShapes on May 29, 2007, 06:28:16 PM
Discuss.

neither one has potential

they will both look worse and worse as the years go by because modern day pro stacks just turn good physiques into giant mountains of shit.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: ThaRealist on May 30, 2007, 07:17:58 AM
wolf
could he achieve his full potential?
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/cgcgraded/aach0132-1.jpg)


Wow...That is outstanding and the amazing thing is that Wolf is capable of getting there...Can anyone say a new 10 time Mr. Olympia????
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Colby on May 30, 2007, 08:01:01 AM
I really can't come up with anything to say about that other than DAMN!  :o
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Benny B on May 30, 2007, 08:06:47 AM
Wolf is already better than Heath in this era of "mass 1st".
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: Rami on May 30, 2007, 08:10:43 AM
He already looks better than Jay... But somehow Jay Cutler is MR.O.
Title: Re: Dennis Wolf has more potential than Phil Heath
Post by: MikeThaMachine on May 30, 2007, 08:27:48 AM
He already looks better than Jay... But somehow Jay Cutler is MR.O.


Agreed....