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Please leave my name off if this goes to the boards. Thanks.
Would you say there is any validity to using Clen 2wks on 2wks off?
What's wrong w/running it for say 4 weeks straight?
I find that up to 120mcg a day is tolerable if spread out appropiately.
Thanks,
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i dont support he use of clenbuerol any more,,i decided its crap when comaring it to albuterol at 12-16mg per day,,thus albuerol is he way to go,,same or better fat burning,,same volumizing effect,,better strength,, minimal to no sides,,
clenbuterol in general can be used for 4-5 weeks on and even 200mcg per day it tolerable since i had 180lb women on this dose plenty of time before,,the sides are not worthy at any dose since you get better result with either ephedra and or albuterol
the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with clenbuterol is the same junk made up by the white widows ;)who say you have to have testosterone always so you dont lose your sex drive,,,or another stupid thing i heard was that you lose your sex drive on tren,,,all those exuses are for guys who abused and misused aas for years over years over years and cant get it on due to other medical problems,,thus need viagra or cialis,,but not to worry! we got those too ;)
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Ephedrine is way better
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DNP
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STAIR MASTER !!!
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STAIR MASTER !!!
Cardio is for pussies.
REAL bodybuilders take pesticides and hormones to get lean! ::) ::)
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Actually ice cream and a couch will get you shredded. Its the secrete of the pros. I know it sounds crazy but ask goodrum about how he got so shredded
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i think i'm the only human in history not to lose weight from dnp???
either that or i drank so much water during it, i stored the same amount.
strangest thing about it was i was on a diet at the time and losing weight already, i only added it to speed it up a little. the weight loss stoped dead. after about 2 weeks i gave up as the sides were driving me crazy.
t4 had zero effect too, in fact i gained weight??? t3 did nothing either
i am an asthmatic too, so clen has no fat loss or sides effects on me at all, and neither does albuteral - bar relieve my asthma. ( because i already use an inhaler perhaps?)
the only thing that has ever worked for fat loss for me is eca
eca is the best i've found.
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i think i'm the only human in history not to lose weight from dnp???
either that or i drank so much water during it, i stored the same amount.
strangest thing about it was i was on a diet at the time and losing weight already, i only added it to speed it up a little. the weight loss stoped dead. after about 2 weeks i gave up as the sides were driving me crazy.
t4 had zero effect too, in fact i gained weight??? t3 did nothing either
i am an asthmatic too, so clen has no fat loss or sides effects on me at all, and neither does albuteral - bar relieve my asthma. ( because i already use an inhaler perhaps?)
the only thing that has ever worked for fat loss for me is eca
eca is the best i've found.
inhalers are not meant for fat loss,,they are meant to use for people who have astma and only people who have astma,,the mechanism of it is diff,,it goes into the system in diff path way,,
you need tablets or liquid,,you need 12 or so mg a day,,then it becomes second to only ephedrine for losing bodyfat,,
t3 is meant to allow you to eat the burgers at mcdonalds and still make it to photo shots on flex,,its not for anyone and you gotta eat junk on it for it to do its magic,,
t4 is for people with real thyroid problems and will help them melt the right way,,
there is no need for t3 or t4 for someone who eats pretty clean,,all the talk about gh and steroid use and the need for t3 does not exist when you got your diet in tact and your fat burners at hand
the need for t3 and t4 is for someone who is mainly on insulin and doesnt keep diet in tact,,or someone who got his thyroid fucked up to begin with and this is the reason you didnt see shit out of it beside flatteniing of the muscles
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have you ever heard of anyone else who didn't respond to dnp?
i have asthma so use the inhaler for attacks.
i did use clen tabs for a month, cant remember the exact dosage, but it was very high from what i remember. as i was surprised i had no shakes etc that people mention.i thought it must have been because clen and albuteral were similar, and i had gotten used to that particular side from years of inhaler use.
either way, i'm happy with eca. :)
cheers for the nfo.
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why would any one need dnp is beyond me,,but yes some can tolerate very high doses of anything,,some bodies got their own ways of dealing with toxins and dnp is a toxin,,
what dnp does to you in a week you can achieve with ephedrine albuterol or clenbuterol in exactly 2 weeks and with out ending up with fan stuck up your ass or in hopsital,,i dont know anyone that will sacrifice his health for a week
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GH..what is a good site for albuterol tabs?
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get the liquids,,cheaper and dosed higher so you can take enough of it to get the fat burning,,
remember! you should not use inhalers they are dosed in mcg and dont give you enough dose nor does it get into the system the same way,,so it wil not burn fat what so ever,,might give you a little better work out but no fat burning
you need mgs of the product for it to turn into the amazing fat burning it is,,it also will give you huge pump and will push the muscle out of the skin in addition to making your stronger,,add it to femara or arimidex and you may not even need aas to get ripped and have the 3 dimention look youre so much after
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.5mg-.75mg a day of femara will make any girl a total and complete man within weeks,,that is the only reason you see girls now days looking so hard and needing the fakeboobs so desperatly,,
fitness girls and bodybuilding girls are addicted to femara because it makes them HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD AS A BLACK BOY FROM THE HOOD,,the flab on tummy after using femeara is pretty much gone forever if you keep diet clean
but shhhh..its a secret you didnt hear this from me ;) we wanna stay natural :)
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.5mg-.75mg a day of femara will make any girl a total and complete man within weeks,,that is the only reason you see girls now days looking so hard and needing the fakeboobs so desperatly,,
fitness girls and bodybuilding girls are addicted to femara because it makes them HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD AS A BLACK BOY FROM THE HOOD,,the flab on tummy after using femeara is pretty much gone forever if you keep diet clean
but shhhh..its a secret you didnt hear this from me ;) we wanna stay natural :)
I love your posts Gh lol
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Hmm. As you know gh15. Ive no interest in aa's or gh.....but this cutting stuff is very interesting.
Alubuterol.....will this require any post cycle therapy??
where to get it as a liquid??
Femara......what is this, any post cycle required??
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never even heard of femera or anbuterol.... sounds good tho, ive always been a liquid clen, eca, and arimidex person,,, would they be avaidable in the uk,, anyone know?
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Femara is the trade name, its generic name is letrozole. Its a AI very similar to arimidex (anastrozole).
Albuterol is the most common drug prescribed to asthmatics. It is usually found in inhalers, but also can be found in syrup. Research companies carry higher dosed liquid forms.
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By the way, hats off to gh15. For the past month I have been using bronkaid 3x/ed along with his reccomendations for IGF (just before bed 50mcg e3d) and I have lost a significant amount of fat. In the neighborhood of 13% down to 8-9% in 1 months time. Of course, I also have curtailed my calorie intake and added some cardio (30-60 minutes/week).
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Femara is the trade name, its generic name is letrozole. Its a AI very similar to arimidex (anastrozole).
Albuterol is the most common drug prescribed to asthmatics. It is usually found in inhalers, but also can be found in syrup. Research companies carry higher dosed liquid forms.
I thought femera was aromasin????
* EDIT....I double checked and I was wrong ;D
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aromasin is exemestane, just FYI.
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Thanks erokys....and guapo. I ll look into it.. 8)
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wad about for boys/men? What optimum dosage to get HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR D as hell? ;)
.25-.75 will work well on men and ofcourse it will depend on the levels of estrogen you genetically produce,,,some produce more some less
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Letrozole (trade name FemaraŽ) is an oral non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor that has been introduced for the adjuvant treatment of hormonally-responsive breast cancer.
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Letrozole (trade name FemaraŽ) is an oral non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor that has been introduced for the adjuvant treatment of hormonally-responsive breast cancer.
How about "Gaspari" Novadex xt. Its and aromatase also.....probably safer for naturals who arent jacked on 1000mg of gear a week roght???
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Femara is the trade name, its generic name is letrozole. Its a AI very similar to arimidex (anastrozole).
Albuterol is the most common drug prescribed to asthmatics. It is usually found in inhalers, but also can be found in syrup. Research companies carry higher dosed liquid forms.
the diff between arimidex and letro is tremendous when it comes to the actual thing that matters and its what the eye sees,,
arimide will get your estro creation down to the 20% while letro will basically put it at hold more or less as in 95% elimination from the core as in production elimination,,
that is a big diff to the eye
letro will eliminate any gyno you ever had as a teenager as in eliminate any adipose tissue you ever had within one to 2 days! letro will eliminate the need for gyno surgery in most case unless its prolactin related gyno,,letro will make your current gyno situation due to the use of aas completely eliminated and will flatten your nipples back to their original shape within days not weeks,,
and most importanly,,letrozole will create a hard look after constant use with hormones that arimidex cant create because letro eliminate estrogen as simple as that while arimidex spare some,,when cutting you do not need estrogen higher than 5%,,5% will keep your system healthy enough,,this 5% is basically the estrogen you already have running in the system and you want this to keep the system running ok when it comes to sex drive and fullness of the muscle since little bitof estro helps in those aspects even when cutting
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Letro won't do much as far as estrogen in pre-menopausal women. There's a reason a SERM is used instead in those.
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quote author=
Please leave my name off if this goes to the boards. Thanks.
Would you say there is any validity to using Clen 2wks on 2wks off?
What's wrong w/running it for say 4 weeks straight?
I find that up to 120mcg a day is tolerable if spread out appropiately.
Thanks,
i dont support he use of clenbuerol any more,,i decided its crap when comaring it to albuterol at 12-16mg per day,,thus albuerol is he way to go,,same or better fat burning,,same volumizing effect,,better strength,, minimal to no sides,,
clenbuterol in general can be used for 4-5 weeks on and even 200mcg per day it tolerable since i had 180lb women on this dose plenty of time before,,the sides are not worthy at any dose since you get better result with either ephedra and or albuterol
the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with clenbuterol is the same junk made up by the white widows ;)who say you have to have testosterone always so you dont lose your sex drive,,,or another stupid thing i heard was that you lose your sex drive on tren,,,all those exuses are for guys who abused and misused aas for years over years over years and cant get it on due to other medical problems,,thus need viagra or cialis,,but not to worry! we got those too ;)
are u saying that test shouldnt necessary be a part of any cycle?
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testosterone should be a part of a cycle
what i was saying is that the lack of syntethic testosterone in your cycle is not the reason your peepee cant get up,,there are other reasons for that,,,
the main reason for testosterone in a cycle is for agressivness and overall good feeling and strength,,it also is natural to the body and the male body likes its nnatural hormone wether its synthetic or not
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How about "Gaspari" Novadex xt. Its and aromatase also.....probably safer for naturals who arent jacked on 1000mg of gear a week roght???
lol, you are kidding right?
another majic elixer
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lol, you are kidding right?
another majic elixer
;)
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Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD. This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.
Back to arimidex v. femara
http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751
RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).
CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.
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Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD. This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.
Back to arimidex v. femara
http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751
RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).
CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.
FUCK im glad you said it, i was about to respond. rebound and novedex are equivalent to arimidex..
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Actually, novadex by Gaspari contains 3, 17-Keto-Etiochol-Triene also known as ATD. This is a potent suicide aromatase inhibitor that can give estrogen suppression close to arimidex.
Back to arimidex v. femara
http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/abstract/20/3/751
RESULTS: Pretreatment aromatase levels ranged from 1.68% to 4.27%. On-treatment levels of aromatase were detectable in 11 of 12 patients during treatment with anastrozole (mean percentage inhibition in the whole group, 97.3%) but in none of the 12 patients during treatment with letrozole (> 99.1% suppression in all patients; Wilcoxon, P = .0022, comparing the two drug regimens). Treatment with anastrozole suppressed plasma levels of E1, E2, and E1S by a mean of 81.0%, 84.9%, and 93.5%, respectrively, whereas treatment with letrozole caused a corresponding decrease of 84.3%, 87.8% and 98.0%, respectively. The suppression of E1 and E1S was found to be significantly better during treatment with letrozole compared with anastrozole (P = .019 and .0037, respectively).
CONCLUSION: This study revealed letrozole (2.5 mg once daily) to be a more potent suppressor of total-body aromatization and plasma estrogen levels compared with anastrozole (1 mg once daily) in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer.
Maybe it works in making females harder but it's not because of estrogen suppression. Not in premenopausal women i.e. most of the athletes we are talking about.
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Im on the gaspari novadex right now..... :o It works great, im staying fuller while low calories.....much better mood since starting....can work out harder and longer.....
Im taking 3 pills at nite, takes about a week to kick in...... 8)
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Im on the gaspari novadex right now..... :o It works great, im staying fuller while low calories.....much better mood since starting....can work out harder and longer.....
Im taking 3 pills at nite, takes about a week to kick in...... 8)
Keep us posted.
Do you consider yourself still natural?
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Do you consider yourself still natural?
Haha, exactly. Taking all sorts of weird chemicals while still claiming natural status.
FYI Novedex XT will lower your GH levels by 50%!!!
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Haha, exactly. Taking all sorts of weird chemicals while still claiming natural status.
FYI Novedex XT will lower your GH levels by 50%!!!
hehe, a nice side effect, next to hair loss and an enlarged prostate. ;D ;D
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Keep us posted.
Do you consider yourself still natural?
Yep. Its meant too boost my natural test by lowering estrogen. I am making use of my own natural test levels,.............. not from an outside source.
Now pro-hormones were a differnt story, they were basically a pure test with one molecule or something to be added by your body.
Even tho i preach natural.....i can hang with the druggies and i have alot of friends on gear. They would tell you ive never gotten anything from them................they just shake theur head.... ;D