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She voted for the war without reading the national intelligence estimate. others, like Bob graham, read it, and voted against the war.
(New bio/washington magazine)
Did she just go along with the war fervor without doing her homework?
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That's why I don't like her..
She seems like a flip-flopper who's aims to please which ever side.
Obama did vote against the war, correct?
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only 6 out of 100 senators DID read it.
But...
She wanted to be President. She should have done her homework on this one. They all should have. The biggest foreign policy move in 20 years - attacking a soverign nation on a pre-emptive basis - and you don't read the intel youself? You prefer the WHITE HOUSE SUMMARY of it? They were openly biased from minute one on it.
hilary looks irresponsible on this one.
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only 6 out of 100 senators DID read it.
But...
She wanted to be President. She should have done her homework on this one. They all should have. The biggest foreign policy move in 20 years - attacking a soverign nation on a pre-emptive basis - and you don't read the intel youself? You prefer the WHITE HOUSE SUMMARY of it? They were openly biased from minute one on it.
hilary looks irresponsible on this one.
They're all power hungry former attorneys who don't really give a shit.. So what did you expect?
If politics were set right, then economists would be in office. :-\
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They're all power hungry former attorneys who don't really give a shit.. So what did you expect?
If politics were set right, then economists would be in office. :-\
economists run things behind the scene and make the calls. lawyers who like to wield power and get attention and praise - they sell the decisions to the public.
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economists run things behind the scene and make the calls. lawyers who like to wield power and get attention and praise - they sell the decisions to the public.
This I see after years and years. But how much of public knows this is how things go down?
I was discussing politics with my statistics professor, who's also senior professor of economics and he sounded like Mr. I. I didn't mouth him off or tell him what I thought, partly because I was amazed at how little insight he had. I mean he kept spinning everything as "the left, they're whats wrong with this nation blah blah". He belittled Pelosi for her visit to Syria and NOW his boys are cooperating with terrorists.. :-X
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She voted for the war without reading the national intelligence estimate. others, like Bob graham, read it, and voted against the war.
(New bio/washington magazine)
Did she just go along with the war fervor without doing her homework?
Typical Hillary.
Yuck !!
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If politics were set right, then economists would be in office. :-\
Bump for Karl Marx. 8)
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She voted for the war without reading the national intelligence estimate. others, like Bob graham, read it, and voted against the war.
(New bio/washington magazine)
Did she just go along with the war fervor without doing her homework?
Yeah sure lib!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
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Bump for Karl Marx. 8)
This is soooooo not the country for you.
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He thinks he'd get away with spewing anti-government crap under the commies...he'd get a shovel to dig a ditch and a bullet in the head.
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He thinks he'd get away with spewing anti-government crap under the commies...he'd get a shovel to dig a ditch and a bullet in the head.
hahahaha ;D
He thinks he'd be allowed civil liberties.. :-\
He'd get capped in a true socialist system.. Maybe he can try Europe?
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That's why I don't like her..
She seems like a flip-flopper who's aims to please which ever side.
Hey dude, thats the party you defend, when one speaks they all jump on the bandwagon without thinking...........exept Lieberman and Miller!
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Hey dude, thats the party you defend, when one speaks they all jump on the bandwagon without thinking...........exept Lieberman and Miller!
That's a pot calling the Kettle Joe... You know full well, the Republicans do the same thing.
Do I think Hillary is shifty... damn right, and I wouldn't vote for her ass, but let's be honest, the Republican party certainly isn't ranking any better for "independent" thought.
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That's a pot calling the Kettle Joe... You know full well, the Republicans do the same thing.
True, but if we have a different opinion about something we don't get shut out by our own party........a la; Joe Lieberman.
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True, but if we have a different opinion about something we don't get shut out by our own party........a la; Joe Lieberman.
I do think that was pretty fucked up... although, I can see Bush getting more shut out every day... Things aren't going well for him these days.
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True, but if we have a different opinion about something we don't get shut out by our own party........a la; Joe Lieberman.
You have a short memory. What of Senator Jim Jeffords?
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You have a short memory. What of Senator Jim Jeffords?
You mean "jumpin Jim"?
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hahahaha ;D
He thinks he'd be allowed civil liberties.. :-\
He'd get capped in a true socialist system.. Maybe he can try Europe?
Actually, a "true socialist system" would be ideal. Government by the people for the people. Not government by the rich for the corporations.
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Actually, a "true socialist system" would be ideal. Government by the people for the people. Not government by the rich for the corporations.
What?! Are you tripping right now?
The government would own EVERYTHING and distribute wealth based on THEIR perception of fairness. Invididual success would be penalized and people would lose their motivation to work in fear of having it taken away for the "common good."
No fvcking thank you.
News flash: the government works for us not the other way around.
You really need to move out of the United States, LSD. This is sooooooooooo not the country for you. Have you considered relocating to Cuba or China? I'm sure they have your place in the sugar cane or rice fields picked out for you. You know, so you can work for the collective and give back to your comrades.
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What?! Are you tripping right now?
The government would own EVERYTHING and distribute wealth based on THEIR perception of fairness. Invididual success would be penalized and people would lose their motivation to work in fear of having it taken away for the "common good."
No fvcking thank you.
News flash: the government works for us not the other way around.
You really need to move out of the United States, LSD. This is sooooooooooo not the country for you. Have you considered relocating to Cuba or China? I'm sure they have your place in the sugar cane or rice fields picked out for you. You know, so you can work for the collective and give back to your comrades.
Actually, LSD is somewhat right.
Socialism is a theory that in its final step says that the classes of the society will diminish, as well as the government.
Left will be independent communities, with no laws, no rules or no bounds.
It's utopia, but whenever socialists or communists are critisised for supporting an ideology that is responsible for slaughtering millions of people, they usually refers to the fact that the ideology, as described by Marx and Engels, has no similarity to what the Russians or the Chinese implemented.
A valid argument against socialism then, would be that if it's never worked before, why would it work now?
-Hedge
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Actually, LSD is somewhat right.
Socialism is a theory that in its final step says that the classes of the society will diminish, as well as the government.
Left will be independent communities, with no laws, no rules or no bounds.
It's utopia, but whenever socialists or communists are critisised for supporting an ideology that is responsible for slaughtering millions of people, they usually refers to the fact that the ideology, as described by Marx and Engels, has no similarity to what the Russians or the Chinese implemented.
A valid argument against socialism then, would be that if it's never worked before, why would it work now?
-Hedge
Is the UK not a socialist country?
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Actually, LSD is somewhat right.
Socialism is a theory that in its final step says that the classes of the society will diminish, as well as the government.
Left will be independent communities, with no laws, no rules or no bounds.
It's utopia, but whenever socialists or communists are critisised for supporting an ideology that is responsible for slaughtering millions of people, they usually refers to the fact that the ideology, as described by Marx and Engels, has no similarity to what the Russians or the Chinese implemented.
A valid argument against socialism then, would be that if it's never worked before, why would it work now?
-Hedge
It's a fantasy, Hedge. That's why it will never work without the government enforcing the law from the end of a gun.
Humans prosper in a competitive open market society where you will go as far as your hard work, ambition, and God given talents will take you.
The role of government is to enforce an equal playing field where the the only thing guarenteed is the opportunity to succeed. When someone starts to monopolize the market that's when they step in and put an end to it. Their job certainly is not redistribution of wealth. It's immoral and nothing short of theft. Besides, IMO, it only encourages those with wealth to hang on to it tighter.
Once we start living in a nanny state people get lazy and rest on their laurels and the government runs our lives.
No fvcking thanks. Thats not a free society.
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Is the UK not a socialist country?
Not in a true sense of the word. Still, look at the economies and unemployment numbers of Europe and compare them to the United States. We're doing much better here.
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The role of government is to enforce an equal playing field where the the only thing guarenteed is the opportunity to succeed. ... Talk about being naive. This is fantasyland. What do you think all those lobbyists are doing in DC?
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READ what I wrote, AE.
I was stating what I think the role of government should be NOT how things currently work.
Do lobbyists have to much politicians? Fuck yes but it isn't like the socialst hag you're supporting would do anything about it.