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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22 (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22)
Is this the first thing Iran will do with their new nuclear weapons?
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And we are negotiating with this guy? :-\
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And we are negotiating with this guy? :-\
Nah, we are not. Iran's political and government system is very confusing and complex. On another recent thread, someon show this guy is losing his authority.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22 (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22)
Is this the first thing Iran will do with their new nuclear weapons?
The countdown to Ahmadinejad's end has already started. ;D
Another sign he's on the way out IMO.
-Hedge
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There are a bunch of Mullahs sitting around in Iran wishing this guy would shut up...maybe he has pics of them eating pork or banging sheep..perhaps slurping matzo soup..i don';t know but he's still around.
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soon, according to Iranian president Ahmabinesomething.
What's your outtake on this. 40 years ago we had the 6-day war and the Israelian army severely owned Egypt, Syria and Libanon at the same time.
Nowadays that scenario seems more and more unlikely. The only real advantage Israel has nowadays is nuclear weapons. Should Iran aquire those, we could get a tricky situation.
Did America attack the wrong country (Iraq instead of Iran)? Should the world intervene befor Iran gets nukes?
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Merge this thread with the other one discussing this.
-Hedge
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What's your outtake on this. 40 years ago we had the 6-day war and the Israelian army severely owned Egypt, Syria and Libanon at the same time.
Wasn't it Egypt, Syria and Jordan?
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Yeah.....don't let a bunch of dudes hopping around with AK's fool anybody into thinking that the Iranian army is a buch of badasses. Sending in SOF units to help support insurgents does not mean your conventional forces are ready and trained. The Israeli AF is second to none.....besides the nuke threat.....conventionall y Iran would be in for a very bloody and short campaign. Unlike our military and government, when Israeli Generals and leaders fail..they get sacked.
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why we picking fights with terrorists for a shithole in the middle east again?
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Israel is very nice..its the rest of the area that sucks. Besides thats where all your oil is. :D
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Israel is very nice..its the rest of the area that sucks. Besides thats where all your oil is. :D
the oil is in israel mate??
i mean seriously..they've been fighting about this for how long now..that part of the world grows up hating eachother..zionists and islamists..they deserve eachother..
lets just pull out and let em have at eachother..it'll make for fun TV ;D
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I meant Iran...welll it would make for great Tv as every muslim capital burns and the wreckage of hundreds of Iranian tanks and APC burn across some desert. We have to find an acceptable peace and I think its time for the muslim brotherhood ::), to open its arms to the Palistinian people.
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I meant Iran...welll it would make for great Tv as every muslim capital burns and the wreckage of hundreds of Iranian tanks and APC burn across some desert. We have to find an acceptable peace and I think its time for the muslim brotherhood ::), to open its arms to the Palistinian people.
you DO realize that me family is muslim right?
anyhow..its sad how a small group of people have tainted a fine religion..
now if you bomb every muslim capital then dont go around complaining when thousands of muslims wanna retaliate..
wasn't the taliban created BY THE USA with its war with russia in Afghan..and then after their country ws blown o bits instead of helping we just up and left...cause our purpose ws served..
we r paying for that years later..
cleverly disguised greedy ajenda to bomb another country (as in 'them') and the use of patroitic hoopla to appease the 'base masses' (ie lemmings repbs) does not making it any different then what the terrorists do..
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Yeah i know but i was refering to Syria, Iran, possibly Cairo and Saudi Arabia....and I was talking about what Israel would do. The Taliban was not created by the US..in no way shape or form...They were created out of the chaos of post occupation Afghanistan..they were a creation of the borderlands from Paksiant and their radical brand of Islam. We backed the Northern Alliance...but not enough because they lost control of Kabul and the government and retreated back to Pansjer. The Taliban cleaned up the lawlessness and drug dealing that was going on and then went cray when they took control of the governmnet.
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The Taliban cleaned up the lawlessness and drug dealing that was going on and then went cray when they took control of the governmnet.
the taliban won us the war..a soldier thats not scared of dying...and actually wants to die..
we trained em too..we gave em weapons also..
except..we didn't diffuse em when we left..OUR FAULT..or is it...
terrorism = $
we shoulda taken em around back and shot em all in the head before leaving..
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anyhow..its sad how a small group of people have tainted a fine religion..
How can a religion be fine when the direct words of the God teaches their followers to whip those who have committed adultery?
Whipping?
And other barbaric, medieval practices, foreign of a civil enlightened society.
Islam's got to go.
-Hedge
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How can a religion be fine when the direct words of the God teaches their followers to whip those who have committed adultery?
Whipping?
its actually NOT whipping..its death....beheading..and i agree..ya wanna fuck someone else..get a damn divourse..and its pretty easy in islam..say (whether you r man or woman) "i divource thee in public 3 times".. and thats that..
some sins in the koran are unforgivable..you can repent forever as a muslim and your ass is STILL going to hell..
on the flip side in islam a good christian and a jew can go to heaven...which is impossible in christanity..
murder..rape..infedility ..and mistreading orphans and not paying back $ owed are unforgivsble sins..
read the fucking koran man..and not some online translation..go to a damn mosque..and ask for 1..they'll SHOULD give you 1 for free for its a sin to make profit from sales of the koran..
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Again..the Taliban didn't exist. They came about as an organized group asfter the Soviets left in 1989. The Taliban ("Students of Islamic Knowledge Movement") ruled Afghanistan from 1996 until 2001. They came to power during Afghanistan's long civil war. The Taliban was ousted from power in December 2001 by the U.S. military and Afghani opposition forces in response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the U.S.
Groups of taliban ("religious students") were loosely organized on a regional basis during the occupation and civil war. Although they represented a potentially huge force, they didn't emerge as a united entity until the taliban of Kandahar made their move in 1994. In late 1994, a group of well-trained taliban were chosen by Pakistan to protect a convoy trying to open a trade route from Pakistan to Central Asia. They proved an able force, fighting off rival mujahideen and warlords. The taliban then went on to take the city of Kandahar, beginning a surprising advance that ended with their capture of Kabul in September 1996.
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Again..the Taliban didn't exist. They came about as an organized group asfter the Soviets left in 1989.
who do you think trained these fuckers in war tactics..weaponry...did they just up and learn all that in a FOURTH WORLD NATION?? :-\
who supplied em with 1st world weapons?
who conviently forgot to take those weapons away?
were we THAT dumb..or did we know what ws gonna happen?
you drecide..
In late 1994, a group of well-trained taliban were chosen by Pakistan to protect a convoy trying to open a trade route from Pakistan to Central Asia. They proved an able force, fighting off rival mujahideen and warlords. The taliban then went on to take the city of Kandahar, beginning a surprising advance that ended with their capture of Kabul in September 1996.
Pakistan is an American created state...14th august 1947...do your research and tell me what else happened in 1947..
you'll be shocked n surprised.. :)
o yeah btw..maky pakis resent that the taiban are in pakistan..as they see it..America left Afghan in ruin so the taliban (afghans) moved to paki..2 sides mate..2 sides..
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its actually NOT whipping..its death....beheading..and i agree..ya wanna fuck someone else..get a damn divourse..and its pretty easy in islam..say (whether you r man or woman) "i divource thee in public 3 times".. and thats that..
some sins in the koran are unforgivable..you can repent forever as a muslim and your ass is STILL going to hell..
on the flip side in islam a good christian and a jew can go to heaven...which is impossible in christanity..
murder..rape..infedility ..and mistreading orphans and not paying back $ owed are unforgivsble sins..
read the fucking koran man..and not some online translation..go to a damn mosque..and ask for 1..they'll SHOULD give you 1 for free for its a sin to make profit from sales of the koran..
You proved Hedge's point..
Islam is 200 years behind christianity.. You can't see that because of your situation.. You have money and are around people who're educated and well off. Naturally you assume that this growing problem is still in the minority. Well it is, but not to the point where it should be disregarded.
Talk to some average joe/ahmed and feel for his opinions. Deep down it's usually whining about women in skirts and a deep dislike for america and western ideals. This demographic is growing and people like you and I need to take a stand by speaking out not only against it, but Islam. There is no other way.
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You proved Hedge's point..
Islam is 200 years behind christianity.. You can't see that because of your situation.. You have money and are around people who're educated and well off. Naturally you assume that this growing problem is still in the minority. Well it is, but not to the point where it should be disregarded.
Talk to some average joe/ahmed and feel for his opinions. Deep down it's usually whining about women in skirts and a deep dislike for america and western ideals. This demographic is growing and people like you and I need to take a stand by speaking out not only against it, but Islam. There is no other way.
question..
r your family and parents muslim??
AND DO THEY KNOW HOW U FEEL?
do tell...
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question..
r your family and parents muslim??
AND DO THEY KNOW HOW U FEEL?
do tell...
they don't really practice. And of course they know my stances on religion and they respect it. :)
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the taliban won us the war..a soldier thats not scared of dying...and actually wants to die..
we trained em too..we gave em weapons also..
except..we didn't diffuse em when we left..OUR FAULT..or is it...
terrorism = $
we shoulda taken em around back and shot em all in the head before leaving..
Not every mujahadeen fighter became a member of the Taliban.. A lot of them went back to their respective countries or joined the northern alliance.
Of course they helped those fighters against the russians.. It was the right thing to do and plus the USSR was embarassed.
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Pakistan funded the Taliban and helped supply the Mujehadeen...further they created the radical muslim ideals that these guys follow. It is in Pakistans best interest to keep Afghanistan destabilized....it always has been.
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Pakistan funded the Taliban and helped supply the Mujehadeen...further they created the radical muslim ideals that these guys follow. It is in Pakistans best interest to keep Afghanistan destabilized....it always has been.
and who do you think is running pakistan?
It is in Pakistans best interest to keep Afghanistan destabilized....it always has been.
yeah watching bodyparts laying around on Tariq road karachi when i ws 10 and getting used to bombings growing ws rather rad!
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Hey..I know u guys hate the Afghi's...keeping em destablized and then keeping them out of your country are two different things I guess. Your border region is a mess..the military won't go there at all.
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Hey..I know u guys hate the Afghi's...keeping em destablized and then keeping them out of your country are two different things I guess. Your border region is a mess..the military won't go there at all.
look bro lets say you r a paki border guard with a gun 50 yrs old and 2 armed afghans approach ya with a thousand rupees (around 20 bucks) and ask to pass..you let em ..or they simply shoot ya..
every 3rd person in karachi is afghan..and pretty much EVERY mosque had an afghan preacher..no wonder the masses hate the US there..with afghan preachers.. :-\
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I agree completely..I've in up to the border several times..it's complete mess...U can't drive across uncheched, but u can walk..with all your crap..unchecked. And as far as the hate..all we are doing is building schools, roads, wells, helping these people in a much much better way then Iraq..and they shit all over us.
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Our contractors were Pakistani, they used to feed us all the time and bring us boxes of sweets and pastry things.
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Pashtus aren't bad people.. There's a kabab stand near my home and the dudes there are kind folks, better than most pakis any day.. although I haven't dealt with the good pakis. there are some in long island that I met and they're nice folks. Problem is the the two sides never help one another.. Same with educated bengalis and indians.. You never see a sucessful guy reaching out to help a less sucessful or fresh off the boat guy, but rather looking down on him.. We're like black people in that we are our own worst enemies.
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Too true....That muslim brother crap....
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You proved Hedge's point..
Islam is 200 years behind christianity
The newer the religion, the more extremist it is. You don't see people who worship the sun god causing any shit.
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Our contractors were Pakistani, they used to feed us all the time and bring us boxes of sweets and pastry things.
yeah thats a bad habit we got..if and when i visit paki everyone tries to feed me..even if i already ate..and take insult if i dont wanna eat their nasty food.. >:(
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Pashtus aren't bad people..
thats cause you have only seen the Americanized ones...
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yeah thats a bad habit we got..if and when i visit paki everyone tries to feed me..even if i already ate..and take insult if i dont wanna eat their nasty food.. >:(
I never got sick..i ate footbread and the lamb and crap.The rice with dates in it. The tea..all good stuff.
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Toxie, true, I have met the americanized one's and they're really good people.
But you have to admit that our people are our own worst enemies.. just admit it..
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I never got sick..i ate footbread and the lamb and crap.The rice with dates in it. The tea..all good stuff.
other than the kashmiri tea (which is now your chai tea latte at starbucks) i dont like that stuff..
i grew up on plain rice..potatoes boiled..veggies..pidda.. haven seen 1 too man goats and cows get slaughtered i couldn't bear to eat meat..unless it ws forced on me..which it ws sometimes >:(
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Toxie, true, I have met the americanized one's and they're really good people.
i buy my paki food (chicken..tikka..always chicken tikka with nan) from an afghani place..very nice people..
but there is a world of difference between these people and the karachi girls who will point a rifle at ya for you riding your bike too close to their hut..
But you have to admit that our people are our own worst enemies.. just admit it..
there is a paki gasstation owner in our area who is selling gas AT COST right now..pissing everyone else around him off...for what reason..we dont know..
PS selling at cost is illegal..he keeps this up we're gonna report him..
i've seen it a million times..as a general rule we dont do biz with pakis..jews are great biz people and will never cheat or screw ya..
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there is a paki gasstation owner in our area who is selling gas AT COST right now..pissing everyone else around him off...for what reason..we dont know..
PS selling at cost is illegal..he keeps this up we're gonna report him..
i've seen it a million times..as a general rule we dont do biz with pakis..jews are great biz people and will never cheat or screw ya..
My uncles and my bro told me that a general rule of thumb for doing business are the following.. ;D
Trust greeks, jews, italian and certain white folks.
Don't trust anyone from the indian subcontinent or chinese folks.
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Trust greeks, jews, italian and certain white folks.
Don't trust anyone from the indian subcontinent or chinese folks.
BINGO! your uncle is a smart man...
except to do biz with the greek is touch and go..they think up lofty ideas and usually a shitloard of $ is involved..they also live in the moment..they make 50k..well they gonna spend that in 2 months buying boats taking vacations etc..
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I never got sick..i ate footbread and the lamb and crap.The rice with dates in it. The tea..all good stuff.
What, no MREs? :)
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Trust greeks, jews, italian and certain white folks.
There might be a few Native American Indians who would disagree.
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There might be a few Native American Indians who would disagree.
They should have put up a better fight......
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They should have put up a better fight......
Bump for genocidal fascist conservatives!
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Bump for genocidal fascist conservatives!
my wife is 50% Shoshone Bannock...you probably know math so you can figure out what my kids are...even she says they should have fought better....
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my wife is 50% Shoshone Bannock...you probably know math so you can figure out what my kids are...even she says they should have fought better....
Sounds like either she or her parents went to one of those Indian boarding schools where they beat the culture out of the kids.
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Sounds like either she or her parents went to one of those Indian boarding schools where they beat the culture out of the kids.
far from it son, but tell me where my story is wrong? It was a fight, they lost....that is how the world works.
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far from it son, but tell me where my story is wrong? It was a fight, they lost....that is how the world works.
It was a slaughter, and repeated broken treaties on our part, carried out by "good Christians."
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Well I watched Bury My heart on HBO..the Col character made one good point...the tribes continually warred against each other and the Whites wer not doing anythinmg that they had not doen to each other for hundreds of years before the Whites set foot in America. I'm not defending the Reservations or anything..just an interesting point. I have never met an Indian ever...realized that after watching the show.
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Well I watched Bury My heart on HBO..the Col character made one good point...the tribes continually warred against each other and the Whites wer not doing anythinmg that they had not doen to each other for hundreds of years before the Whites set foot in America. I'm not defending the Reservations or anything..just an interesting point. I have never met an Indian ever...realized that after watching the show.
I haven't met a native american either.
Why the fuck are they considered so important when they're so irrelevant? You can pick out "native america" on any survery or application, but not other more important populations who're grouped together. Like asian is a super demographic and so many different people are considered asian. It makes no fucking sense.
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They're sticking it to the pale faces now with the Casino's.
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They're sticking it to the pale faces now with the Casino's.
we get quarterly pay outs at my house, cleared just over $4K last year...not bad
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Islam is 200 years behind christianity.. You can't see that because of your situation.. You have money and are around people who're educated and well off. Naturally you assume that this growing problem is still in the minority. Well it is, but not to the point where it should be disregarded.
The newer the religion, the more extremist it is. You don't see people who worship the sun god causing any shit.
This may be true for other religions, but not for Christianity. Many of the first Christians were poor, uneducated people. A few were rich and educated. Nevertheless, for the first few hundred years of Christianity, you never heard of Christians being violent. On the contrary, while they were persecuted, arrested, tortured and killed, they never fought back. Hundreds of years later, you hear of the Crusades, Inquisitions, etc, by so called "Christians" who were mostly wealthy, educated people (The Roman Catholic Church). Then, many hundreds of years later, you hear of so called "Christians" who were mostly wealthy, educated people, fighting the abolition of slavery and exterminating Native Americans. Christianity's age, Christians' education or wealth have nothing to do with it. Christianity is a religion of peace and love. That is what Jesus Christ taught his followers and that is what is recorded in the New Testament. ;D
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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22 (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22)
Is this the first thing Iran will do with their new nuclear weapons?
By Islamic law, Muslims must warn their enemies before destroying them. I assure you, Israel takes these threats very seriously.
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Awsome..what this guy said...we got over our stupidity a long time ago..evangelicals aren't even in the same universe as the jihadists.
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They're sticking it to the pale faces now with the Casino's.
I AM RAGING BIG HORN BUFFALO AND YOU CAN STOP THE SUFFERING OF MY ANCESTORS AND HONOR THEM BY COMING TO FOXWOODS CASINO AND RESORTS! ;D