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Title: Dugdale
Post by: donrhummy on June 07, 2007, 10:17:09 PM
He was better as a middleweight.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: timfogarty on June 07, 2007, 10:19:10 PM
honestly, I think all the current pros looked better when they were top amateurs
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Matt C on June 07, 2007, 10:22:41 PM
honestly, I think all the current pros looked better when they were top amateurs

Most pros in Larry Pepe's "The Precontest Bible" said that their best ever conditioning was when they turned pro.

No pro needs to make any improvements whatsoever from their pro winning form.  Zero, zilch, nada!  All a pro has to do is duplicate the exact form they were in when they turned pro to see great success in the pro ranks.  Every single year, the pro who turns pro at the Nationals has a physique capable of qualifying for the Olympia.  How many pros do we see who screw it up and try to get too big too fast only to never look as good as they did when they turned pro?
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: HowieW on June 07, 2007, 11:26:33 PM
Most pros in Larry Pepe's "The Precontest Bible" said that their best ever conditioning was when they turned pro.

No pro needs to make any improvements whatsoever from their pro winning form.  Zero, zilch, nada!  All a pro has to do is duplicate the exact form they were in when they turned pro to see great success in the pro ranks.  Every single year, the pro who turns pro at the Nationals has a physique capable of qualifying for the Olympia.  How many pros do we see who screw it up and try to get too big too fast only to never look as good as they did when they turned pro?

I agree they do look better OVERALL at the lighter wts. However, what chance will they stand next to Jay or Markus if they don't beef up. Without wt classes in the pros, you will continue to see the smaller guys trying to bulk up too much and ruin the line of their great physiques.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: tony b on June 07, 2007, 11:33:34 PM
He was better as a middleweight.

Very good physique. I wouldnt say Dugdale though is the best example of a pro who looked better as an amatuer. But there is plenty - Lionel Brown, Omar Deckard, Bill Willmore. Probably the overwhelming majority of the last 5+ years.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: whitewidow on June 08, 2007, 02:43:46 AM
He was better as a middleweight.

good conditioning
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Andre Nickatina on June 08, 2007, 04:33:27 AM
He looks stupendous  :o

I live in his area.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Rearden Metal on June 08, 2007, 05:08:13 AM
You picked the worst example possible. If anyone has been able to keep his lines and aesthetics intact while getting bigger and harder, it's Dugdale.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: SteelePegasus on June 08, 2007, 05:11:32 AM
Most pros in Larry Pepe's "The Precontest Bible" said that their best ever conditioning was when they turned pro.

No pro needs to make any improvements whatsoever from their pro winning form.  Zero, zilch, nada!  All a pro has to do is duplicate the exact form they were in when they turned pro to see great success in the pro ranks.  Every single year, the pro who turns pro at the Nationals has a physique capable of qualifying for the Olympia.  How many pros do we see who screw it up and try to get too big too fast only to never look as good as they did when they turned pro?

I have a bad feeling that Phil Heath is heading down the wrong path
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Monster_Everything on June 08, 2007, 05:38:08 AM
Why do good people do bad things ???
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: El Guapo on June 08, 2007, 07:00:30 AM
those pics are close to perfection in my eyes.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Agent001 on June 08, 2007, 07:08:29 AM
Dugdale is OLD SCHOOL... ;D

What I can really appreciate about a guy like him & Rockel & David Henry & Dexter is they have NEVER bought into the RACE FOR MASS. 

It is a shame the sport has gravitated to these HUGE GUTS and abnormalities...

I would rather look like Ronnie Rockel or a Mark Dugdale over Cutler, Coleman, Ruhl, James, Baddell etc ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: njflex on June 08, 2007, 07:14:56 AM
no way,was a great amateur as lightheavyweight ,and as a middle was good,needed to fill out lats and thighs which he did as a lightheavy,needed to move up to become pro.he was not a up n comer as a middle,a very good example of a amateur to pro transition without loosing a beat,conditioning the same and add little mass at a time without ruining his base.take his build in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: dseiler on June 08, 2007, 07:22:38 AM
Dugdale is OLD SCHOOL... ;D

What I can really appreciate about a guy like him & Rockel & David Henry & Dexter is they have NEVER bought into the RACE FOR MASS. 

It is a shame the sport has gravitated to these HUGE GUTS and abnormalities...

I would rather look like Ronnie Rockel or a Mark Dugdale over Cutler, Coleman, Ruhl, James, Baddell etc ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

I agree 100%, shame most of the bb ticketbuyers don't.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Mars on June 08, 2007, 07:41:08 AM
Jay also looked wayyyyyyy better when he was an amateur. now he looks like shit.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: donrhummy on June 09, 2007, 11:04:53 PM
those pics are close to perfection in my eyes.

Exactly. Just had a few things to perfect and he was there.
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Wombat on June 09, 2007, 11:17:45 PM
DJ as a lightheavy had a more pleasing look for sure...
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: Stavios on June 10, 2007, 06:35:14 AM
I like the fact that Mark didn't bullshit anyone when they asked him his arms mesurement at mayhem

he said that Off-season, at a bodyweight of 230 lbs, it is a little over 19 inches

seems about right !

first time I remember a pro saying he has below 20 inches arms !
Title: Re: Dugdale
Post by: El Guapo on June 10, 2007, 10:11:08 AM
DJ as a lightheavy had a more pleasing look for sure...

pics?