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Republicans can only hope this loser jumps in and wins the nomination. This would be the equivalent of Newt getting the Republican nomination (energize the opposition's base).
Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:17 a.m. EDT
Bill Clinton: Al Gore Will Enter Race
Hillary Clinton may be the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, but her husband Bill thinks she’ll likely face stiff competition from a yet unannounced source – Al Gore.
Bill was at a get-together at the apartment of Air America’s new chief Mark Green when political blogger Andy Ostroy asked the former president if he believes Gore is going to run, according to the New York Post’s Page Six column.
"Someone’s got to fizzle,” Clinton answered. "If someone fizzles, then yeah, he could enter the race. He’s got plenty of money, his own money, to do it.”
Ostroy predicts that it will be Barack Obama who fizzles by September, and "Gore will toss his hat into the ring and enlist the junior senator from Illinois as his running mate. An unbeatable ticket.”
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/13/102043.shtml?s=ic
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anything is better than another clinton..or bush for that matter...well, maybe not an obama...
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I'll take cocktail party shmoozing for what it's worth.
Too bad though b/c Gore is exactly the kind of man you want as president: intelligent, well-read, an accomplished author, a statesman, a farsighted politician and a great american with a history of serving his country.
What a stark contrast that is drawn when he's compared to the small man we currently have in the Whitehouse.
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unbeatable? haha, nobody wanted that loser gore then, nobody wants him now. i hope he runs and ensures ROMNEY to the oval office:)
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unbeatable? haha, nobody wanted that loser gore then, nobody wants him now. i hope he runs and ensures ROMNEY to the oval office:)
Gore has some impressive credentials and accomplishments. Bush is upstaged by coat rack.
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I'll take cocktail party shmoozing for what it's worth.
Too bad though b/c Gore is exactly the kind of man you want as president: intelligent, well-read, an accomplished author, a statesman, a farsighted politician and a great american with a history of serving his country.
What a stark contrast that is drawn when he's compared to the small man we currently have in the Whitehouse.
I gave Gore a hard look in 2000. In the end, I agreed with the people of Gore's home state of Tennessee and voted for Bush. :)
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I gave Gore a hard look in 2000. In the end, I agreed with the people of Gore's home state of Tennessee and voted for Bush. :)
How unfortunate. It seemed fairly obvious to me at the time that Bush was a front man (and a damn poor one at that). Now we have Iraq, debt, constitutional/governmental apostasies...
Oh well, "Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
You know what I mean?
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How unfortunate. It seemed fairly obvious to me at the time that Bush was a front man (and a damn poor one at that). Now we have Iraq, debt, constitutional/governmental apostasies...
Oh well, "Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
You know what I mean?
It's fairly obvious to me Gore is a loser. He has to be one of the only nominees in American history to lose his home state. If he wins his home state he wins the presidency. Losers snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And say what you want about Bush, but the man has been overachieving his entire life. Major difference between him and Gore.
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Bush is the poster child for how to fail upward in life.
I grew up in Texas and for most of his life "W" was considered the idiot son who made Neal Bush look good.
He ran a super sleazy campaign to become governor and his primary accomplishment as govenor was the number of executions that took place during his administration
Regardless of all that - his accomplishments as President speak for themself
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Gore has some impressive credentials and accomplishments. Bush is upstaged by coat rack.
While we know Bush is an idiot....Gore..come on he has the charm and personality of a fire hydrant..his silly movie..his quotes...the beard....etc etc ect. He won't take Obama..another idiot.
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It's fairly obvious to me Gore is a loser. He has to be one of the only nominees in American history to lose his home state. If he wins his home state he wins the presidency. Losers snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And say what you want about Bush, but the man has been overachieving his entire life. Major difference between him and Gore.
Actually, Gore won a recount of all the votes. http://www.chicagomediawatch.org/01_4_gore.shtml
Only by Bush's running to the SCT which rendered the single most corrupt decision in history was he able to be installed as president.
There has to be something else to your choice of Bush. Calling Gore a loser is simply not good enough. I'll figure it out.
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While we know Bush is an idiot....Gore..come on he has the charm and personality of a fire hydrant..his silly movie..his quotes...the beard....etc etc ect. He won't take Obama..another idiot.
I'm a lukewarm fan of Gore but when the man speaks I start to fall asleep.
I saw him on Olberman a week or so ago and he answers questions in such a round about way that he'll lose the average American with a 10 second attention span. I had to try hard to keep myself from nodding off.
On the other hand I think he would be a good president, if only in contrast to the slow motion nightmare that we've had the last 6 years..
I think Biden also is very qualified and I wish he would get more play.
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Republicans can only hope this loser jumps in and wins the nomination. This would be the equivalent of Newt getting the Republican nomination (energize the opposition's base).
Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:17 a.m. EDT
Bill Clinton: Al Gore Will Enter Race
Hillary Clinton may be the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, but her husband Bill thinks she’ll likely face stiff competition from a yet unannounced source – Al Gore.
Bill was at a get-together at the apartment of Air America’s new chief Mark Green when political blogger Andy Ostroy asked the former president if he believes Gore is going to run, according to the New York Post’s Page Six column.
"Someone’s got to fizzle,” Clinton answered. "If someone fizzles, then yeah, he could enter the race. He’s got plenty of money, his own money, to do it.”
Ostroy predicts that it will be Barack Obama who fizzles by September, and "Gore will toss his hat into the ring and enlist the junior senator from Illinois as his running mate. An unbeatable ticket.”
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/13/102043.shtml?s=ic
Hahahahahahaha........I almost spit my food all over the place when I heard this last week..........Hahahahaha hahahahaha, this ought be good!
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While we know Bush is an idiot....Gore..come on he has the charm and personality of a fire hydrant..his silly movie..his quotes...the beard....etc etc ect. He won't take Obama..another idiot.
I didn't know that this was a cotilion.
Who cares if the man appeared stiff? He was obviously more qualified that Bush was/is.
You know it is the modern "liberal media" that started all this authenticity/personality bullshit?
It got to the point where positions/platforms were ignored and the election was decided on the merit of whom you would rather have a beer with....
That's sad.
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I didn't know that this was cotilion.
Who cares if the man appeared stiff? He was obviously more qualified that Bush was/is.
You know it is the modern "liberal media" that started all this authenticity/personality bullshit?
It got to the point where positions/platforms were ignored and the election was decided on the merit of whom you would rather have a beer with....
That's sad.
unfortunately most of America is about about form over function which is why the Republicans will most likely nominate that idiot Romney. I swear he makes Bush seem intelligent
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Actually, Gore won a recount of all the votes. http://www.chicagomediawatch.org/01_4_gore.shtml
Only by Bush's running to the SCT which rendered the single most corrupt decision in history was he able to be installed as president.
There has to be something else to your choice of Bush. Calling Gore a loser is simply not good enough. I'll figure it out.
That recount horse is dead. If Gore wins his home state, he wins the presidency, regardless of what happens in Florida. I disagreed with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision and thought the Florida Supreme Court got it right, but that doesn't change the fact that Gore couldn't carry his home state. Pretty unbelievable.
I thought Gore was clearly smarter than Bush, but one of the things that pushed me over the edge was I believed Bush was smart enough to see his own shortcomings and would surround himself with smart people. I thought Clinton was too smart for his own good and made horrible appointments (Les Aspen, Jocelyn Elders, etc.). I figured Gore would have the same problem.
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Clinotn won because he had charm..Kennedy charm...etyc etc..Nixon..stiff as board but different era..Reagn..charm..its the 21st Century andf you can't be a stiff...hell Bush has 3 working brain cells and can't speak in public but he got elected because he had down home charm
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I didn't know that this was a cotilion.
Who cares if the man appeared stiff? He was obviously more qualified that Bush was/is.
You know it is the modern "liberal media" that started all this authenticity/personality bullshit?
It got to the point where positions/platforms were ignored and the election was decided on the merit of whom you would rather have a beer with....
That's sad.
The president has the bully pulpit and one of his primary jobs is to make us all feel good. Kennedy did this. Reagan was a master. Clinton was excellent. Dubya is a terrible public speaker, but his tough guy persona is great in times of crisis.
This is one of the problems with Hillary. She is stiff as a board. Has no sense of humor. Gore is the same way.
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That recount horse is dead. If Gore wins his home state, he wins the presidency, regardless of what happens in Florida. I disagreed with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision and thought the Florida Supreme Court got it right, but that doesn't change the fact that Gore couldn't carry his home state. Pretty unbelievable.
I thought Gore was clearly smarter than Bush, but one of the things that pushed me over the edge was I believed Bush was smart enough to see his own shortcomings and would surround himself with smart people. I thought Clinton was too smart for his own good and made horrible appointments (Les Aspen, Jocelyn Elders, etc.). I figured Gore would have the same problem.
Although a bad thing, winning or losing one's home state is not conclusive to my opinion of the man.
You can never have a president that is "too smart for his own good.'
My god, you want the best mind(s) in a position of leadership.
Thanks for explaining your thinking on the matter. I know it's personal info but I appreciate it greatly.
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Clinotn won because he had charm..Kennedy charm...etyc etc..Nixon..stiff as board but different era..Reagn..charm..its the 21st Century andf you can't be a stiff...hell Bush has 3 working brain cells and can't speak in public but he got elected because he had down home charm
Hahaha. Hey I just said that. :D
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Hahaha. Hey I just said that. :D
So why don't we just elect an actor to play the role of president?
Fred...
Are you listening?
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Although a bad thing, winning or losing one's home state is not conclusive to my opinion of the man.
You can never have a president that is "too smart for his own good.'
My god, you want the best mind(s) in a position of leadership.
Thanks for explaining your thinking on the matter. I know it's personal info but I appreciate it greatly.
I agree our best and brightest should lead. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen often enough. Colin Powell is one example. I would vote for him in a New York minute.
Haven't you met anyone who was too smart for their own good? People who are very bright, but too arrogant to accept advice and/or criticism? A leader is only as good as those who advise him/her, particularly mayors, governors, and presidents. When your advisors stink you wind up with the unnecessary loss of life in Somalia (compliments of Les Aspen) and a mismanaged war in Iraq (compliments of Rumsfeld). At the end of the day, the president has to accept responsibility, but it's crucial for the president to surround himself with good people . . . and to actually listen to them.
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Well put....I'm worried that Fred is surrounding himself with to many Bush folks.
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I agree our best and brightest should lead. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen often enough. Colin Powell is one example. I would vote for him in a New York minute.
Haven't you met anyone who was too smart for their own good? People who are very bright, but too arrogant to accept advice and/or criticism? A leader is only as good as those who advise him/her, particularly mayors, governors, and presidents. When your advisors stink you wind up with the unnecessary loss of life in Somalia (compliments of Les Aspen) and a mismanaged war in Iraq (compliments of Rumsfeld). At the end of the day, the president has to accept responsibility, but it's crucial for the president to surround himself with good people . . . and to actually listen to them.
I don't think arrogance is a bad thing in a president if it is not debilitating re his judgment. Bush is debilitated. Clinton knew when to cut a deal (triangulate).
We've already seen the results of an intelligent pres. v. a dull normal president.
Clinton's years were very successful in terms of the economy and implementing conservative agenda.
Bush's years are marked by economic failure (tripling the debt), trampling the constitution and the single worst foreign policy decision in modern american history.
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When the body count gets to around 60 grand we can call it the worst. I think the other might be the Democrate led war in Vietnam, perhaps even pulling support of the Shah by the other worst president in history, is or was just as bad. Maybe pulling out of Somalia, leading Bin Laden to believing we would not fight, therefore emboldening attacks against US interests and 911 itslef. It all stacks upon itslef and eventually Bush came along and it fell on his head. The next guy will repair it.
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When the body count gets to around 60 grand we can call it the worst. I think the other might be the Democrate led war in Vietnam, perhaps even pulling support of the Shah by the other worst president in history, is or was just as bad. Maybe pulling out of Somalia, leading Bin Laden to believing we would not fight, therefore emboldening attacks against US interests and 911 itslef. It all stacks upon itslef and eventually Bush came along and it fell on his head. The next guy will repair it.
Reagan didn't pull support for the Shah....hahahaa
The Shah was installed after the US/CIA helped to overthrow a democratic election in Iran b/c the winner dared to nationalize his country's own oil without US consent.
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No the Shah was in power prior to Mosedegh..we helped in get back....It was wayyyyyyyyyy in our best interests to keep this guy going, Carter was an anti-semetic water walker witha naive world outlook.
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No the Shah was in power prior to Mosedegh..we helped in get back....It was wayyyyyyyyyy in our best interests to keep this guy going, Carter was an anti-semetic water walker witha naive world outlook.
They were contemporaries. He replaced his father on the throne on September 16, 1941. In 1951, under the leadership of the nationalist movement of Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, the Iranian parliament voted unanimously to nationalize the oil industry.
We made sure that wouldn't happen.
On April 28, 1951, Mossadegh, on the Shah's suggestion, was named Prime Minister of Iran by a vote of 79-12 by the democratically elected legislative Iranian body known as the Majlis and the parliament's vote had been accepted by the Shah as legitimate at that time. However, In August of 1953 Mossadegh attempted to convince the Shah to leave the country. The Shah refused and formally dismissed the prime minister. However, the Shah's authority to dismiss Mossadegh has been questioned with some saying that only the Majlis had the formal authority to dismiss the Prime Minister. Mossadegh used this idea after the coup during his trial in November of that year.
Mossadegh refused to resign, however, and when it became apparent that he was going to fight, the Shah, as a precautionary measure called for by the British/American plan, fled to Baghdad and from there on to Rome. Once again, massive protests broke out across the nation. Anti- and pro-monarchy protestors violently clashed in the streets, leaving almost 300 dead. The military intervened as the pro-Shah tank regiments stormed the capital and bombarded the prime minister's official residence. Mossadegh surrendered, and was arrested on August 20, 1953. Mossadegh was tried for treason, and sentenced to three years in prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi