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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Marty Champions on June 14, 2007, 02:21:31 PM
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a whole lot more than we think. it is the best supplement out here is proof
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/4/620
some of the most deizel dudes ripped eat alot workout alot and drink alot
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a whole lot more than we think. it is the best supplement out here is proof
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/4/620
some of the most deizel dudes ripped eat alot workout alot and drink alot
are you going to start doing it to get big and diesel?
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Studies have linked moderate alcohol comsumption to reduced rates of heart disease.
Alcohol in moderation is fine, even for a bodybuilder! Stop think "oh a beer or drink is gonna make me go into a catabolic state!" Fucking myth right there.
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So when i have ten pints of lager then shit myself I am doing myself some good?
Great, best news in years
ta ta
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I drank 250ml of alcohol every night.. I did not get fat or lose muscle. And I'm talking about liquor.
Trust me on this! Alcohol is okay, as long as you keep track of the calories.
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I think I am going to start putting alcohol in my water bottle so I can get drunk while I workout; that way I can be ready to hit up the bars by the time I leave the gym...kill two birds with one stone!!
LOL. This is right up there with the aliens hiding in thunderstorms to harvest the lightning's energy.
/someone should start a dw archive. pure gold.
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zane used to drink beer for his contest prep
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a whole lot more than we think. it is the best supplement out here is proof
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/4/620
some of the most deizel dudes ripped eat alot workout alot and drink alot
Old news.....but it's funny that this study was done with alcoholics, studies using alcolhol in moderation (1-2 drinks per day) have been around for at least the last few years show a lower morality rate by reducing CHD, but more studies have shown that anything more increases mortality.
The study above only shows the lower HDL tests it doesn't show everything else that could be wrong, so testing alcoholics IMO was stupid and misleading. Here's something al little more accurate.......
http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/94/11/3023
BTW, neither study shows the effect of consuming alcohol while performing a bench press with 405, but it would be safe to say that test would just add to the mortality rate :-\!!
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I've been clean from alcohol for almost 5 weeks now after drinking 750 ML of Vodka once every 2 or 3 days for almost 2 years. During the previous 2 years, the only extended period of time I didn't drink was before a show in the summer of 2005. I only drank once in about a 3 month period.
I've put on 4 pounds since I quit drinking and I'm LEANER than I was before. I squatted the most I've ever squatted in my life on Tuesday for reps. I did 395 for 10 and 455 for 3 reps to parallel. My strength has gone up immediately in everything. Alcohol had greatly supressed my test levels. I managed to stay lean during those 2 years but hardly made any gains whatsoever in mass. I pretty much ran in place for 2 years. The alcohol would have ruined my physique completely if I were not so obsessive with how I eat and how much cardio I do. You wouldn't have known I had a problem if you saw me due to how much I exercised.
In short, if you think drinking too much on a regular basis doesn't supress gains in the gym you are an absolute idiot. It drops your test levels, makes it harder for you to get lean and throws your diet out of balance. Drinking in moderation once a week or every 10 days isn't going to kill you and will probably allow someone to loosen up a little easier/blow of a little steam when out. But getting semi-trashed (or completely trashed as I was) every other day or once every 3 days is a surefire recipe for making no gains in the gym.
Not a road you want to go down. Not good for your health, your social life, your family or your body. Stay clean and lean.
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Ego, I agree with everything you just said.
But let's can the notion that heavy drinking once in a while is bad for a bodybuilder. It's not.
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Every once in a while wouldn't hurt anything unless someone is getting behind the wheel of a car. Bodybuilders are naturally high strung and it is a way to take the edge off every now and then.
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alcohol is excellent for staying lean, staying stress-free(NOTHING is worse or more catabolic than stress), and staying upbeat and motivated. drinking while doing cardio is ok. drinking and lifting weights i would not recommend. unless you are just going for a deadlift PR in which case theres no danger of you dropping it on yourself and you will be extra fired up and motivated.
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alcohol is excellent for staying lean, staying stress-free(NOTHING is worse or more catabolic than stress), and staying upbeat and motivated. drinking while doing cardio is ok. drinking and lifting weights i would not recommend. unless you are just going for a deadlift PR in which case theres no danger of you dropping it on yourself and you will be extra fired up and motivated.
1. Alcohol increases appetite and the extra calories will add weight, one gram of alcohol is 7 calories.
2. Who ever told you drinking while exercising is an idiot, it causes a number of problems.
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two other good ways to increase HDL:
1. cardio exercise (pro the best way)
2. olive oil
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two other good ways to increase HDL:
1. cardio exercise (pro the best way)
2. olive oil
actually mainly saturated fat and weightraining super set high intense
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actually,
aerobic excerise and monounsaturated fats such as olive oil.
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One hundred subjects drank some alcohol for 4 weeks (mean intake 18.4g/d) and abstained totally for 4 weeks, the order of these periods being randomized.
Alcohol appeared to produce a rise of 7% in serum high-density-lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol, probably due to a rise in the HDL2, subfraction.
so thats damn good couple that with holding less water with the diuretic effect and you have a slightly tighter near peaked physique while eating high calories
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One hundred subjects drank some alcohol for 4 weeks (mean intake 18.4g/d) and abstained totally for 4 weeks, the order of these periods being randomized.
Alcohol appeared to produce a rise of 7% in serum high-density-lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol, probably due to a rise in the HDL2, subfraction.
so thats damn good couple that with holding less water with the diuretic effect and you have a slightly tighter near peaked physique while eating high calories
You don't get it do you adam?
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1. Alcohol increases appetite and the extra calories will add weight, one gram of alcohol is 7 calories.
2. Who ever told you drinking while exercising is an idiot, it causes a number of problems.
you mean a wine spritzer isn't cool? :)
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a whole lot more than we think. it is the best supplement out here is proof
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/122/4/620
some of the most deizel dudes ripped eat alot workout alot and drink alot
yea it it also unbinds bound testosterone hence the term beer muscles
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yea it it also unbinds bound testosterone hence the term beer muscles
alcohol is interesting as it clears testosterone out of your system right to your wang for an epic sensitive wang feeling and spermload
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I think alcohol is the primary reason I haven't been able to get ripped. I drink virtually every night, not getting drunk, but 4-5 cocktails maybe, and yet I still wonder why I can't get below 10% bodyfat. The truth is, I'll take the trade-off of being able to drink what I want and have fun, doing cardio to make up for it, yet still never get REAL lean. This is me, 2 years ago, NO PUMP, at my leanest.
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I think alcohol is the primary reason I haven't been able to get ripped. I drink virtually every night, not getting drunk, but 4-5 cocktails maybe, and yet I still wonder why I can't get below 10% bodyfat. The truth is, I'll take the trade-off of being able to drink what I want and have fun, doing cardio to make up for it, yet still never get REAL lean. This is me, 2 years ago, NO PUMP, at my leanest.
Monster truth. My buds ask all the time about diet/exercise stuff, and I just tell them the first step should be to stop drinking for one month and see what a difference that will make. They all nod in agreement, but next time I see them, they still have a cocktail attached to their hand. :-\
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I think alcohol is the primary reason I haven't been able to get ripped. I drink virtually every night, not getting drunk, but 4-5 cocktails maybe, and yet I still wonder why I can't get below 10% bodyfat. The truth is, I'll take the trade-off of being able to drink what I want and have fun, doing cardio to make up for it, yet still never get REAL lean. This is me, 2 years ago, NO PUMP, at my leanest.
yeah i think the main thing is you dont eat enough and secondly that may be a little too much alcohol or not it depends how active you are
if you are doing 1 hour of cardio and 1 hour of weights per day and eating alot and drinking that drinking will get rid of extra water while alot of food will build and repair and give you a new physique...
my basic rule is if im tired and burnt out and dont feel like working out ALWAYS THEN EAT SOMETHING THEN GO WORKOUT
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I think alcohol is the primary reason I haven't been able to get ripped. I drink virtually every night, not getting drunk, but 4-5 cocktails maybe, and yet I still wonder why I can't get below 10% bodyfat. The truth is, I'll take the trade-off of being able to drink what I want and have fun, doing cardio to make up for it, yet still never get REAL lean. This is me, 2 years ago, NO PUMP, at my leanest.
Try switching to wine, cocktails are laden with sugars.
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a cocktail attached to their hand.
4-5 cocktails maybe
Buncha slack-jawed fagggots 'round here!
Beer'll turn ya into a goddam sexual tyranasorrs!
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yeah i think the main thing is you dont eat enough and secondly that may be a little too much alcohol or not it depends how active you are
if you are doing 1 hour of cardio and 1 hour of weights per day and eating alot and drinking that drinking will get rid of extra water while alot of food will build and repair and give you a new physique...
my basic rule is if im tired and burnt out and dont feel like working out ALWAYS THEN EAT SOMETHING THEN GO WORKOUT
I tend to get into a bad trend like not eating much, drinking, not working out. Stay relatively lean but lose muscle obviously. It's just hard to get it into my head to eat a lot during the summer, I just feel more sluggish and I want to feel tight and lean. Then I'll over-do the cardio, not eat, and train once a week.
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Another great thread of DW's, where he's trying to glorify the use of mind altering substances. ::)
Who would have ever guessed. ::)
I'm not against the occasional social drink, but I find it funny how guys try to justify the use by saying it's healthy for you, especially in the long term.
Two words: Mike Mentzer. Look at the YouTube clips of him telling his client to do HIT training, he's a rambling drunk.
But hey DW also says it's good for you, so we must believe his bi-polar ass.
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I think alcohol is the primary reason I haven't been able to get ripped. I drink virtually every night, not getting drunk, but 4-5 cocktails maybe, and yet I still wonder why I can't get below 10% bodyfat. The truth is, I'll take the trade-off of being able to drink what I want and have fun, doing cardio to make up for it, yet still never get REAL lean. This is me, 2 years ago, NO PUMP, at my leanest.
fuckk cardio you should be trying to get bigger, you're too small.
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fuckk cardio you should be trying to get bigger, you're too small.
That was August '05.
I've put on a little size since then.
But adding mass was never the problem, it was getting lean to actually see it.
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That was August '05.
I've put on a little size since then.
But adding mass was never the problem, it was getting lean to actually see it.
no offense but if adding mass isn't a problem why are you small there?
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no offense but if adding mass isn't a problem why are you small there?
I guess my goals have always been at odds with eachother. That particular year I was torn between getting
big and staying lean, and therefore didn't eat enough to put on a whole lot. When I go all out and eat, sure I get bigger, but I like to have a body to show off year round I guess. There have been periods where I eat what I want and I grow quite a bit, but by the time I try to diet down I've wasted some of it already. That summer I entered a contest through INSTONE with before and after pics, and I only had 12 weeks. I made the crucial error of still trying to get bigger the first 7 weeks without even lifting the previous 6 months, and as a result, I neither gained any significant size nor ended up significantly lean while dieting.
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Buncha slack-jawed fagggots 'round here!
Beer'll turn ya into a goddam sexual tyranasorrs!
LOL. Let me guess? You don't have time to bleed, either.
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fuckk cardio you should be trying to get bigger, you're too small.
That's nonsense.... An increase of fat will only give him the illusion of being smaller. By working out and eating his muscles will get their nutrients while the cardio will burn fat. Cardio is more effective at burning fat the weight training. He isn't going to get any smaller by losing fat.
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That's nonsense.... An increase of fat will only give him the illusion of being smaller. By working out and eating his muscles will get their nutrients while the cardio will burn fat. Cardio is more effective at burning fat the weight training. He isn't going to get any smaller by losing fat.
I'm thinking I wish I had your tendency to stay lean...
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i got wasted last night watching the spurs win and this morning i feel like a dry, lean goddam sexual tyrannosaurus
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I'm thinking I wish I had your tendency to stay lean...
It's not a tendency. Believe me sometimes it can be hard. I hate junk food but my body craves it. It is almost a need. I just had an oreo cream pie. I feel sick as a dog but i had to have it.
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i got wasted last night watching the spurs win and this morning i feel like a dry, lean goddam sexual tyrannosaurus
Me too, but I was pissed.
I watched the cuts on my back resulting from the loss of water and felt damn good. 8)
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Not a road you want to go down. Not good for your health, your social life, your family or your body. Stay clean and lean.
well said. since i stopped drinking everything is better - my energy levels, and my results. drinking caused alot of stored fat too.
truth is, if u are strict in diet, u can still get drunk once a week and be lean. but ur results would be wayyyyyyy better on all levels if u dont.
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Fuck alcohol. Been away from it for like 15 months and i'm improving like mad atm.