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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SirTraps on June 17, 2007, 11:35:01 AM
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I used to wear one and then the past 4 years havent worn one, one philosophy says they actually weaken your back and stablizer muscles.
I went out and bought one yesterday, as my back has been bothering me -im going to wear it on back and squat days.
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It's totally personal. I wear one for deads, bent over rows, and squats. That's it. My lower back gets sore very easily due to scoliosis. I think it's gay to wear one while doing bench presses or curls or something else. My 2 cents.
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Just interested in hearing if most people feel they protect their back or prevent injuries ?
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never worn one
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might help if you have a back injury.
otherwise i dont see the point in it.
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technically your Transverse Abdominus and the rest of your "core" should do what a weight belt does, but for some really heavy lifts its not a bad idea to wear one. but just remember to keep the addominals tight WITH the belt, b/c the prevailing tendency is to push out the abs to feel the extra pressure (which also contributes to extended stomachs). if you wear one, just keep the stomach tight along with the belt and you should be good.
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when i used to compete in powerlifting i wore one,now i ussually do not
bench
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for your heaviest lifts they are a good idea to prevent injury but they should not be used for the lighter warmup sets and you need to do specific ab and lower back work as well - the belt is just to prevent injury when you are going very heavy
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I use them for squats and I stopped using 'em for deads.. Deading without a belt works your lower lats more, as well as the middle part of the back.
I don't know why anyone would wear a belt whening doing pushdowns or curls.
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IMO, lifting belts just weaken your back.......for real. Unless you are a hardcore powerlifter, don't even waste your $$$. Hello, spend it on food. ;)
Jade
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I am actually thinking about getting one with the chain so that I can weighted dips. The one at my gym is MIA.
I have never worn a belt before..any suggestions?
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I have this one that I wear for squats, I found it for around $45 online. Its nice that its 6in thick in the back since I'm 6'2, but that being said if I bought another one I'd go for a 4inch thick all the way around. This one is also thicker in the front than the sides and it can be a little akward in the front.
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What a stupid question.
Of course they are necessary.
Get a lifting belt with your name, or preferebly your nickname and display it everytime you go to the gym.
Also it makes the waist look smaller.
My belt says BIG BLUTO
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Lifting Belts, who wears them ?
douchebags.
Hope this Helps!
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I wear them on my heaviest lifts. Now granted, I may or may not need it, but I'd rather have it and not need it then try to lift without one and end up with an injury. It might be a psychological security blanket, but I haven't had NEAR the back problems my buddies that don't use one have. I'm trying to prevent injuries in the gym to keep me in the game for a long time. My knee wraps and weight belts are here to do just that. If they weren't necessary, why do all your big power lifters use them when doing heavy squats or deads? They're just more tools in the tool box to help you reach your goals.
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I use a belt during competition deadlifts because I can lift more with it. I dont train deads with a belt as it really does make your lower back and abs weaker. I use it all the time for my bench so I can arch more aggressively.
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Only if GASP makes it...
Don't we all want to be like the PROS in MD? GASP is where it's at! ;)
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Only if GASP makes it...
Don't we all want to be like the PROS in MD? GASP is where it's at! ;)
long live Ruhl!
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The belt is worn to increase intra-abdominal pressure. This helps keep your spine aligned when straining on a heavy lift and makes it safer. A belt is also a reminder to lift properly while in the gym from loading plates to moving DB's around. I found this written by a G. Welch.
The weightlifting belt, contrary to popular belief, supports the back in a different manner. While there can be some support due to the rigidity of a weight belt, the benefit is minimal compared to the support offered by the increase in the intra-abdominal pressure (IAP). (8,9,10)
During a normal lifting maneuver such as the squat; the diaphragmatic muscles along with muscles of the torso contract generating pressure on the abdominal cavity. The abdominal cavity together with its predominantly fluid contents, known as the "fluid ball", are kept under pressure by the surrounding musculature. It is this natural intra-abdominal tension that supports the spinal column. (11) Several studies have shown that weight belts increase intra-abdominal pressure and therefore assist in this natural stabilization mechanism. (3,8,12,13,14) Other studies have shown that increased IAP by use of the weight belt not only relieves the load of the musculature of the lower back, but also reduce the compressive forces on the spinal discs. (15,16,17) Furthermore, it has been reported that the reduction in these compressive forces can be reduced by as much as 50% when utilizing a weight belt. (16,18,19)
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ill ask a few of the guys at my gym.....they wear them everyday.....for everything! bicep day? belt....flat bench press?....belt.....leg extensions? belt
one guy wears gloves while doing cardio on the bike.....
::) ::) ::)
belts keep your pants up......thats it
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i never used one
i see pros where them from the second they enter the gym until they leave...always wondered exactly why
glass says its to keep the stomach from protruding outwards...but is it really that hard to keep your abs tensed while lifting ???
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i never used one
i see pros where them from the second they enter the gym until they leave...always wondered exactly why
glass says its to keep the stomach from protruding outwards...but is it really that hard to keep your abs tensed while lifting ???
obviously from the looks of most pros midsections....this "theory" doesnt work...
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The theory with wearing one all the time is to help take any pressure of the abs and obliques so they DONT have to work. Less muscle around the waist is better!
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I have never worn one or believed in them, until I started feeling like I had gotten a slight hernia a few months ago from doing heavy curls. I started wearng a belt while curling heavy from then on and it seems to have healed itself and I no longer have that problem.
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I use a belt. I find it really helps prevent lower back injury but I use it only when training chest, back and shoulders.
PB
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definitely on heavy squats. on any other lift only if it helps your mental approach girly man
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I have never worn one or believed in them, until I started feeling like I had gotten a slight hernia a few months ago from doing heavy curls. I started wearng a belt while curling heavy from then on and it seems to have healed itself and I no longer have that problem.
lol
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If you go heavy i think its a good idea, disc problems effing suck. I wore mine this weekend pushing a wheelbarrow full of 400 pounds of sand, i dont give a shit-back pain blows.
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Anyone ever come across the chance to purchase a pro's old belt? That would be sweet to have one of Cormier's (sp?) old one's that says "Real Deal" on it, or somebody else's. Dorian must have used a few, so what did he do with them? IMO, that would be a sweet motivator when you strap that mother on!!
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Anyone ever come across the chance to purchase a pro's old belt? That would be sweet to have one of Cormier's (sp?) old one's that says "Real Deal" on it, or somebody else's. Dorian must have used a few, so what did he do with them? IMO, that would be a sweet motivator when you strap that mother on!!
Hey, you can have mine! Pm me your address & I'll send it out right away. BTW, do ya need somes gloves to go with da belt? ;)
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The belt is worn to increase intra-abdominal pressure. This helps keep your spine aligned when straining on a heavy lift and makes it safer. A belt is also a reminder to lift properly while in the gym from loading plates to moving DB's around. I found this written by a G. Welch.
The weightlifting belt, contrary to popular belief, supports the back in a different manner. While there can be some support due to the rigidity of a weight belt, the benefit is minimal compared to the support offered by the increase in the intra-abdominal pressure (IAP). (8,9,10)
During a normal lifting maneuver such as the squat; the diaphragmatic muscles along with muscles of the torso contract generating pressure on the abdominal cavity. The abdominal cavity together with its predominantly fluid contents, known as the "fluid ball", are kept under pressure by the surrounding musculature. It is this natural intra-abdominal tension that supports the spinal column. (11) Several studies have shown that weight belts increase intra-abdominal pressure and therefore assist in this natural stabilization mechanism. (3,8,12,13,14) Other studies have shown that increased IAP by use of the weight belt not only relieves the load of the musculature of the lower back, but also reduce the compressive forces on the spinal discs. (15,16,17) Furthermore, it has been reported that the reduction in these compressive forces can be reduced by as much as 50% when utilizing a weight belt. (16,18,19)
I would not reccommend a belt for anything except triples and max efforts (squats, deadlifts). I tend to agree with the above quote. Belts for biceps curls etc. is beyond me.
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The belt is worn to increase intra-abdominal pressure. This helps keep your spine aligned when straining on a heavy lift and makes it safer. A belt is also a reminder to lift properly while in the gym from loading plates to moving DB's around. I found this written by a G. Welch.
The weightlifting belt, contrary to popular belief, supports the back in a different manner. While there can be some support due to the rigidity of a weight belt, the benefit is minimal compared to the support offered by the increase in the intra-abdominal pressure (IAP). (8,9,10)
During a normal lifting maneuver such as the squat; the diaphragmatic muscles along with muscles of the torso contract generating pressure on the abdominal cavity. The abdominal cavity together with its predominantly fluid contents, known as the "fluid ball", are kept under pressure by the surrounding musculature. It is this natural intra-abdominal tension that supports the spinal column. (11) Several studies have shown that weight belts increase intra-abdominal pressure and therefore assist in this natural stabilization mechanism. (3,8,12,13,14) Other studies have shown that increased IAP by use of the weight belt not only relieves the load of the musculature of the lower back, but also reduce the compressive forces on the spinal discs. (15,16,17) Furthermore, it has been reported that the reduction in these compressive forces can be reduced by as much as 50% when utilizing a weight belt. (16,18,19)
wow.... ::)
The belt doesn't INCREASE IAP but decreases it. When people where a belt, they force their abdominal wall into the belt. The Transverse Abdominis , when activated correctly, will draw the belly in and increase IAP.
I think you need to read this.
http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=16
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wow.... ::)
The belt doesn't INCREASE IAP but decreases it. When people where a belt, they force their abdominal wall into the belt. The Transverse Abdominis , when activated correctly, will draw the belly in and increase IAP.
I think you need to read this.
http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=16
I would not draw conclusions so quickly (especially) from that site. I would say it can be argued either way. Try a heavy squat with a belt and contract your abdominals and diaphragm out against a belt and perform a valsava maneuver (if you are an experienced lifter). I "feel" although anecdotal that this increases my IAP greatly over no belt. I think quickly looking through the research you will not find a true answer.
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I only wear one for my heaviest sets of deads and clean and presses. I think too many people over use them and then find their lower backs are weak.
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wow.... ::)
The belt doesn't INCREASE IAP but decreases it. When people where a belt, they force their abdominal wall into the belt. The Transverse Abdominis , when activated correctly, will draw the belly in and increase IAP.
I think you need to read this.
http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=16
The belt must be worn tightly to get the most benifit. This compresses the fluid ball and supports the spine in everyday activiteis and in heavy lifts thats one way the spine is supported.
Who the heck can concentrate on this activation of the trans Adominus in the middle of a set of squats for 12 reps with 500 lbs?? Or a set of bent rows with big weight and reps??
I have heard pers. Trainers say what you are. And maybe if you are doing squat thrusts on a wobble board its a good thing. But when the going gets truely hardcore the belt is your buddy and if worn properly will increase IAP .