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The conventional wisdom is that Agelina Jolie “stole” Brad Pitt from Jennifer Aniston; granted, Brad obviously wanted out of his relationship with Jenn (and who can blame him?).
Have you ever stolen someone else’s man? Would you? Have you ever had your man stolen? Do you even believe this is possible?
Remember, this is not the first time this has happened between high profile people. Liz Taylor "stole" Eddie Fisher from Debbie Reynolds in a very public way back in the day. :'(
Brad and Jen's old rings...
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To have someone steal something from you implies ownership.
People in relationships cannot be "stolen", since you don't own them.
I have never had a man "stolen" from me, ...and I have never "stolen" a man from someone else.
If a man strays in the relationship... wish him well and move on.
Personally, I don't think I could ever maintain a relationship with a man who strayed to me from someone else.
How would you ever trust him?
It's unfortunate that relationship ended, and as publicly as it did. I think everyone concerned maintained quite a bit of dignity under the circumstances, and I wish them all the best and hope they are happy.
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They met while filming this movie. Where was Jen while Brad was filming? On the set with her man? No. She was busy building her own film career. :-\
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They met while filming this movie. Where was Jen while Brad was filming? On the set with her man? No. She was busy out building her own film career. :-\
If you're going where I think you're going... DON'T! Everyone involved had their own career.
You can turn that around by saying Jen has worked on numerous films with numerous co-stars.
During that time... did she cheat? No.
The issues concerning Brad & Jen are their own, had nothing to do with Jenn's career etc., so stop.
Please & Thank You.
Their relationship ended. All concerned have made peace with it and moved on. It's time for you to do the same.
ps - Are you annoyed that when it ended Brad chose another woman, without giving your team a shot? :P
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If you're going where I think you're going... DON'T! Everyone involved had their own career.
Why not?
Brad and Jen were on different wavelengths and timelines. Brad had said publicly in various interviews that he wanted a family. Jen did not--at least not in the short term. She was much more interested in her nascent movie career. And can you, for a minute, see her adopting some baby of color from a third world nation? I think hell would freeze over before that happened.
Their relationship ended. All concerned have made peace with it and moved on. It's time for you to do the same.
Brad and Jen are just contemporary examples here. I could just as easily be talking about Liz, Eddie & Debbie. You appear to be touchy when it comes to Brad and Jen. Why?
ps - Are you annoyed that when it ended Brad chose another woman, without giving your team a shot? :P
Not at all. As I have said in previous threads, I do not find BP attractive. He is too metrosexual for me, but I give him props for dumping Jen and moving on without missing a beat.
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Why not?
Brad and Jen were on different wavelengths and timelines.
That is about the crux of it, ...but I take exception to your laying blame squarely at the feet of Jenn's career.
They had their differences which they were unable to resolve within their marriage. End of story.
Brad had said publicly in various interviews that he wanted a family. Jen did not--at least not in the short term. She was much more interested in her nascent movie career. And can you, for a minute, see her adopting some baby of color from a third world nation? I think hell would freeze over before that happened.
The bottom line is they had their differences which they were not able to resolve.
Brad and Jen are just contemporary examples here. I could just as easily be talking about Liz, Eddie & Debbie. You appear to be touchy when it comes to Brad and Jen. Why?
I suppose I am touchy about this particular couple. I think the way the situation unfolded was unfortunate.
At the same time, I understand what happened, why it happened, and wish them the best. I wish they could just move on with their lives without everyone throwing their private business in the spotlight.
They've moved on, ...why can't everyone else?
Not at all. As I have said in previous threads, I do not find BP attractive.
pssst - i wasn't serious. I was just being a smarty pants. :P
He is too metrosexual for me, but I give him props for dumping Jen and moving on without missing a beat.
I suppose this too is another reason why I'm touchy about it. On the one hand, I don't approve of Brad's actions,
...but on the other hand, I do. My heart goes out to Jenn for what she's had to endure, and I think she's held herself up with incredible dignity ...but at the same time, I don't blame Brad or Angelina, ...although I want to, ...I can't. I think Angelina has handled herself and this difficult situation with class.
They are adults who made decisions about their lives, and how they wanted to live them and with whom.
Let's allow them to move on with their lives, with the privacy so many of us enjoy and take for granted.
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If Brad and AJ can keep that marriage together for keeps it's a hell of a accomplishment, it's hard enough for celeb actors to stay hitched, they have a orphanage to boot! I hope they're together forever, but I wouldn't lay cash on the bet.
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Ummm,
What are you two basing your arguments on?
Secondhand tabloid (TMZ.com) information or have either of you even talked to either party concerned?
??? :-\
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If Brad and AJ can keep that marriage
Did they get married?
I have never had a man "stolen" from me, ...and I have never "stolen" a man from someone else.
Personally, I don't think I could ever maintain a relationship with a man who strayed to me from someone else.
How would you ever trust him?
Agree w/these
If a man strays in the relationship... wish him well and move on.
Although it would be difficult, I agree w/this also. If the person cheats, they wouldn't be who I thought they were to begin with.
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people need to be less possessive. my darling jag's talking a big game, but she's just as possessive as everyone else.
OS, jag doesn't read TMZ . . . as a starlet in her own right, she has industry connections the rest of us can only dream of.
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I suppose I am touchy about this particular couple. I think the way the situation unfolded was unfortunate.
Why in the world would you be “touchy” about this, or any other, celebrity couple? Things that happen in the public happen in the public. These actors know this and chose this life--and they choose to stay in this life. In a very real sense, they feed off this attention. There are many ways to be an actor and not be in a media circus: work in your local dinner theater, on Broadway, etc. There are even plenty of A list “stars” who do not cultivate a public following. Brad, Jen, and Agelina have all chosen to go in a different direction. Privacy as you and I know it is out the window...
Personally, I don't think I could ever maintain a relationship with a man who strayed to me from someone else.
How would you ever trust him?
I find this interesting. Unless you were high school sweethearts, your current man/bf/hubby had a social life long before he met you. Presumably, he has had a gf or two, and he may well have strayed or cheated on his previous love. If a man HAS strayed with a previous girlfriend, would you want to know? Do you feel you have a right to know? Do you expect him to volunteer this? Do women routinely ask men if they have episodes of infidelity in their past? I have never known a woman to do this.
Is this one of those cases where denial or not knowing a truth makes you feel better?
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people need to be less possessive. my darling jag's talking a big game, but she's just as possessive as everyone else.
I wouldn't necessarily classify it as "possessive", ...but I do feel alot of empathy for some people who are more than simply names in a tabloid. There is alot more to their lives (issues etc.,) that I understand, that alot of people don't even begin to factor in the equation, ...so when I see or hear armchair critics commenting on things they cannot even begin to understand, it does bring out a protective streak in me. Some things are not as simple as they appear to be at first blush.
OS, jag doesn't read TMZ . . . as a starlet in her own right, she has industry connections the rest of us can only dream of.
I wouldn't classify myself as a starlet, ...but ya, ...like a line from one of my movies, "...I know a few people." :P
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Why in the world would you be “touchy” about this, or any other, celebrity couple? Things that happen in the public happen in the public.
Ah, but my dear BayGBM, ...Brad & Jen's marriage did not disintegrate in public, ...it did so in private.
It was the media and inquisitive voyeurs that kept throwing a public spotlight on a very painful experience for all 3
This actors know this and chose this life--and they choose to stay in this life.
That's not entirely correct. The public spotlight is not what they chose, it unfortunately is a very heavy price they are sometimes unfortunately required to pay. Promoting a film is one thing, and yes, they can and should be expected to do interviews, and make appearances in connection with the promotion of a project, ...however, the constant appetite for more than info about the project too frequently goes too far, and becomes invasive to the point of persecution. No one chooses to be persecuted. That's like saying the rock star who has his limbs torn off by overly-eager, and overly-aggressive fans who just wanted a piece of him, knew what he was getting into when he first picked up a guitar. NOT SO. Sometimes people and the media just go too far. And to be dismissive of a person's right to privacy is insensitive and out-of-touch with reality. These are PEOPLE first & foremost, and quite frequently too many forget that.
In a very real sense, they feed off this attention.
no, the agents, studios, tabloids etc... feed off the attention. The performers themselves are eaten alive by it.
There are many ways to be an actor and not be in a media circus: work in your local dinner theater, on Broadway, etc. There are even plenty of A list “stars” who do not cultivate a public following. Brad, Jen, and Agelina have all chosen to go in a different direction. Privacy as you and I know it is out the window...
However, when you win an Oscar it's pretty difficult NOT to have a following, ...especially if you are a very popular actor, or involved in a runaway hit. To say any of those 3 actors "cultivated" a public following is ludicrous. It was thrust upon them.
Mind you, there are those publicity seeking whores for want of a better word who would do anything to get their names in the press. We've seen more than a lifetime's worth of those recently (no need to mention any names), but none of the three examples you cited in this thread match that profile in the least.
I find this interesting. Unless you were high school sweethearts, your current man/bf/hubby had a social life long before he met you. Presumably, he has had a gf or two, and he may well have strayed or cheated on his previous love. If a man HAS strayed with a previous girlfriend, would you want to know? Do you feel you have a right to know? Do you expect him to volunteer this? Do women routinely ask men if they have episodes of infidelity in their past? I have never known a woman to do this.
Is this one of those cases where denial or not knowing a truth makes you feel better?
As far as I am concerned, what happened in a man's past is just that... his past. It doesn't equal his future.
I have had one ex volunteer the fact that he had cheated on a previous girlfriend. It nearly broke my heart to see the pain he experienced just recalling that. He truly truly cared for her, ...unfortunately his rise to fame came at a time when he was still too immature, and unprepared to deal with the various temptations that came along the way. He had women throwing themselves at his feet, ...and he behaved like a spoiled kid in a candy store, and he cheated on her. It destroyed the trust they had, and she left him, and it still hurts him to this day recalling what a fool he was to destroy such a wonderful relationship for a piece of tail. It ended up hurting him more than it hurt her in the long run because he has to live with the fact that it was HIM who threw it all down the drain. The pain he experienced was enough to make him never want to go through that again or to cause that kind of pain to someone else ever again. I don't have a problem with an admission of a past infidelity. Serial cheaters on the other hand... I want no part of. And any guy who would even try to cultivate a relationship with me while in another relationship with someone else... he's barking up the wrong tree. It would have to be an epiphany unlike anything ever before for someone like that to get in with me. Yet another reason while I feel for Angelina. I know the soul searching she has done over this, ...and believe me... it wasn't easy. Now, ...in the interest of not infringing on her privacy, I'll say no more.
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Wow, I can't believe a thread about celebrity relationships lasted this long. ::)
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Wow, I can't believe a thread about celebrity relationships lasted this long. ::)
Actually this tread is about man stealing. Jag and I got a little off track.
I'm hoping more women will respond to the original questions: Have you ever stolen someone else’s man? Would you? Have you ever had your man stolen? Do you even believe this is possible?
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Actually this tread is about man stealing. Jag and I got a little off track.
I'm hoping more women will respond to the original questions: Have you ever stolen someone else’s man? Would you? Have you ever had your man stolen? Do you even believe this is possible?
Why don't YOU start? Have YOU ever stolen someone else's man? Would you?
Have you ever had YOUR man stolen? Do you even believe this is possible?
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I find this interesting. Unless you were high school sweethearts, your current man/bf/hubby had a social life long before he met you. Presumably, he has had a gf or two, and he may well have strayed or cheated on his previous love. If a man HAS strayed with a previous girlfriend, would you want to know? Do you feel you have a right to know? Do you expect him to volunteer this? Do women routinely ask men if they have episodes of infidelity in their past? I have never known a woman to do this.
Is this one of those cases where denial or not knowing a truth makes you feel better?
That's a hard question without a clear 'right' answer. I would assume people have taken responsibility for a mistake in the past, knowing someone's misstep will in a majority of cases injustly increase paranoia. That is how I see it, I'm fully aware that when I engage in a relationship that the partner has a past whether for good or bad. I will accept the risk of having 'netted' someone that has made mistakes in the past. No life without risks. Information about someones past can be very confusing, ignorance can be bliss. That said, when all the signs say cheater cheater cheater it's a different ballgame.
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...However, when you win an Oscar it's pretty difficult NOT to have a following, ...especially if you are a very popular actor, or involved in a runaway hit. To say any of those 3 actors "cultivated" a public following is ludicrous. It was thrust upon them.
Do you still believe this? If so, I think you are in the minority. :D
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If someone strays in the relationship... wish them well and move on.
This is the way everyone should behave when infidelity rears its ugly head! A very wise/mature response Jaggy!
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The conventional wisdom is that Agelina Jolie “stole” Brad Pitt from Jennifer Aniston; granted, Brad obviously wanted out of his relationship with Jenn (and who can blame him?).
Have you ever stolen someone else’s man? Would you? Have you ever had your man stolen? Do you even believe this is possible?
Remember, this is not the first time this has happened between high profile people. Liz Taylor stole Eddie Fisher from Debbie Reynolds in a very public way. :'(
Brad and Jen's old rings...
I still refuse to belive that men can be "stolen" when they are the ones who are most likely to stray in the first place. Is it wishful thinking to hope that one day women will quit blaming each other for the wrongdoings of men? i still refuse to belive that it's Eve's fault that Adam ate the apple in the garden of Eden.
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I still refuse to belive that men can be "stolen" when they are the ones who are most likely to stray in the first place. Is it wishful thinking to hope that one day women will quit blaming each other for the wrongdoings of men? i still refuse to belive that it's Eve's fault that Adam ate the apple in the garden of Eden.
I know. It's not like she tied him down and shoved it down his throat. >:( What ever happened to "free will"? ;)
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They met while filming this movie. Where was Jen while Brad was filming? On the set with her man? No. She was busy building her own film career. :-\
I actually liked the movie :P
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I actually liked the movie :P
It is based on the true life storie of me and my wife.................. honest :D
It is our favourite movie and we often use the little catch phrases and words on each other when we are trying to get cute.
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Angelina Jolie doesn't look very healthy these days. Jennifer Aniston I would take over her, and not only because of looks.
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Angelina Jolie doesn't look very healthy these days. Jennifer Aniston I would take over her, and not only because of looks.
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I agree
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I still refuse to belive that men can be "stolen" when they are the ones who are most likely to stray in the first place. Is it wishful thinking to hope that one day women will quit blaming each other for the wrongdoings of men? i still refuse to belive that it's Eve's fault that Adam ate the apple in the garden of Eden.
Amen sister!!!
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Amen sister!!!
Jag back at you!
When woman cheat it is also never their fault :-\
I have had a few girl friends cheat on me in my life time and it was always.
I was confused (this one was used on me more than once)
We are moving to fast (this has also been used on me and since when is it a excuse for cheating ??? )
I was angry
I was hurt
I needed to know if I had still had feelings for him (this one was also used on me)
He was filling an emotional need
He was filling a spiritual need
The list is endless but it is never cheating and never their fault either.
Woman blaming each other for a mans indiscretion is wrong but refusing to stand up and take the blame when it is their own fault is also just as wrong.
Lots and lots of woman stuff up their own marriages, relationships and chase away their own men.............. really really ;)
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Jag back at you!
When woman cheat it is also never their fault :-\
I have had a few girl friends cheat on me in my life time and it was always.
I was confused (this one was used on me more than once)
We are moving to fast (this has also been used on me and since when is it a excuse for cheating ??? )
I was angry
I was hurt
I needed to know if I had still had feelings for him (this one was also used on me)
He was filling an emotional need
He was filling a spiritual need
The list is endless but it is never cheating and never their fault either.
Woman blaming each other for a mans indiscretion is wrong but refusing to stand up and take the blame when it is their own fault is also just as wrong.
Lots and lots of woman stuff up their own marriages, relationships and chase away their own men.............. really really ;)
Cheating is cheating, ...no matter how someone tries to justify it.
All those reasons you mentioned above... are valid reasons that cause people to stray,
...but anytime someone strays outside the confines of their relationship without their partners approval,
it's STILL cheating!
I see guys freaking out on other guys, girls freaking out on other girls... HELLO!
The person your partner cheated with, is NOT the one who vowed to remain faithful to you.
People need to re-direct their anger back to it's source, ...and that source is the SOB who betrayed you,
...not the "OTHER WOMAN", or "OTHER MAN".
...besides, you can't steal something that's not owned to begin with. People aren't personal property (anymore)
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Cheating is cheating, ...no matter how someone tries to justify it.
All those reasons you mentioned above... are valid reasons that cause people to stray,
...but anytime someone strays outside the confines of their relationship without their partners approval,
it's STILL cheating!
I see guys freaking out on other guys, girls freaking out on other girls... HELLO!
The person your partner cheated with, is NOT the one who vowed to remain faithful to you.
People need to re-direct their anger back to it's source, ...and that source is the SOB who betrayed you,
...not the "OTHER WOMAN", or "OTHER MAN".
...besides, you can't steal something that's not owned to begin with. People aren't personal property (anymore)
They need to teach this in Relationships 101.
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Angelina Jolie's 'explosive row' with Brad Pitt over his beer-drinking session
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:42 PM on 31st March 2009
Angelina Jolie's relationship with Brad Pitt has hit a rocky patch after the couple had an explosive row, it was claimed today.
The exhausted actress reportedly returned home from a long day filming her new movie Salt to find Brad relaxing with beer and DVDs in their bedroom while their six children caused chaos downstairs.
Brad's behaviour is said to have triggered the second big argument between the couple over the last few weeks, with friends worrying for their future together.
Sources close to the couple say they had their biggest row yet when Angelina found Brad sleeping while nannies struggled to care for their large brood.
A friend of the actress told Grazia magazine: 'Angelina was completely and utterly exhausted, so when she came home after a hard day's work and found Brad had apparently done nothing all day except watch DVDs, she was livid.
'She went upstairs and shook Brad awake. He was like a bear with a sore head and kept telling her to leave him alone.'
Insiders on her new film Salt said the actress has been withdrawn on set and has been spotted deep in conversation with her brother James Haven in between takes.
A source told the Mail on Sunday: 'Brad and the kids have barely visited the set and Angelina seems very insular.
'She’s staying on her own, working 15-hour days and the stress is taking its toll. We’re all very concerned.
'She’s on a liquid detox diet to lose 21lb in 20 days. She is doing all the stunts herself and barely has time to eat.
The parents-of-six haven't been photographed together since they completed their awards circuit with the Oscars in late February.
Over the last few weeks, Angelina has been putting in gruelling hours on the set of spy thriller Salt, while Brad has been looking after their children.
Her long hours meant she often spends the night at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in Manhattan, instead of making the 50-mile drive back to their £40million mansion on Long Island's Gold Coast.
Two weeks ago, reports claimed Angelina fired their twins Knox and Vivienne's nanny after she found Brad comforting her in a bedroom.
Brad insisted he was consoling the nanny, who was feeling ill at the time.
Source claimed Angelina slapped him round the face and fired the nanny on the spot.
Since the incident, the couple have started sleeping in separate bedrooms.
A friend tell Grazia: 'Angelina's put up a wall between them and shut down emotionally.'
The actress complained last year the couple barely had any time to spend together because of parenting their six children.
She said: 'Mummy and daddy need to try to figure out more time; we’re working on it. Right now, we’re not great about mummy-and-daddy time.'
Since the couple started dating in 2005, there has been little chance for alone time.
Angelina was already a single mother to Cambodian-born Maddox - and adopted Ethiopian daughter Zahara Marley soon after.
The family expanded their brood to include biological daughter Shiloh in 2006, adopted Vietnamese Pax in 2007 and Angelina gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne last July.
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>so when she came home after a hard day's work and found Brad had apparently done nothing all day except watch DVDs, she was livid.
They guy is an actor. For him, watching DVDs is research. ;)
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>so when she came home after a hard day's work and found Brad had apparently done nothing all day except watch DVDs, she was livid.
They guy is an actor. For him, watching DVDs is research. ;)
I don't see why she got so angry. Let the guy relax. The nannies were there, right?
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I don't see why she got so angry. Let the guy relax. The nannies were there, right?
Exactly. What was he supposed to be doing? Breast feeding? Changing diapers? The kids have a nanny (or two). This sounds like a tabloid story just trying to stir up trouble. >:(
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Angelina Jolie's 'explosive row' with Brad Pitt over his beer-drinking session
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:42 PM on 31st March 2009
Angelina Jolie's relationship with Brad Pitt has hit a rocky patch after the couple had an explosive row, it was claimed today.
The exhausted actress reportedly returned home from a long day filming her new movie Salt to find Brad relaxing with beer and DVDs in their bedroom while their six children caused chaos downstairs.
Brad's behaviour is said to have triggered the second big argument between the couple over the last few weeks, with friends worrying for their future together.
Sources close to the couple say they had their biggest row yet when Angelina found Brad sleeping while nannies struggled to care for their large brood.
A friend of the actress told Grazia magazine: 'Angelina was completely and utterly exhausted, so when she came home after a hard day's work and found Brad had apparently done nothing all day except watch DVDs, she was livid.
'She went upstairs and shook Brad awake. He was like a bear with a sore head and kept telling her to leave him alone.'
Insiders on her new film Salt said the actress has been withdrawn on set and has been spotted deep in conversation with her brother James Haven in between takes.
A source told the Mail on Sunday: 'Brad and the kids have barely visited the set and Angelina seems very insular.
'She’s staying on her own, working 15-hour days and the stress is taking its toll. We’re all very concerned.
'She’s on a liquid detox diet to lose 21lb in 20 days. She is doing all the stunts herself and barely has time to eat.
The parents-of-six haven't been photographed together since they completed their awards circuit with the Oscars in late February.
Over the last few weeks, Angelina has been putting in gruelling hours on the set of spy thriller Salt, while Brad has been looking after their children.
Her long hours meant she often spends the night at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in Manhattan, instead of making the 50-mile drive back to their £40million mansion on Long Island's Gold Coast.
Two weeks ago, reports claimed Angelina fired their twins Knox and Vivienne's nanny after she found Brad comforting her in a bedroom.
Brad insisted he was consoling the nanny, who was feeling ill at the time.
Source claimed Angelina slapped him round the face and fired the nanny on the spot.
Since the incident, the couple have started sleeping in separate bedrooms.
A friend tell Grazia: 'Angelina's put up a wall between them and shut down emotionally.'
The actress complained last year the couple barely had any time to spend together because of parenting their six children.
She said: 'Mummy and daddy need to try to figure out more time; we’re working on it. Right now, we’re not great about mummy-and-daddy time.'
Since the couple started dating in 2005, there has been little chance for alone time.
Angelina was already a single mother to Cambodian-born Maddox - and adopted Ethiopian daughter Zahara Marley soon after.
The family expanded their brood to include biological daughter Shiloh in 2006, adopted Vietnamese Pax in 2007 and Angelina gave birth to twins Knox and Vivienne last July.
Jeez...life is tough for the multimillionaires... ::)
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Angelina Jolie doesn't look very healthy these days. Jennifer Aniston I would take over her, and not only because of looks.
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And she used to be hot...
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Do you even believe this is possible?
..and i answer you without fear of infamy <Dantes inferno>
William Shakespeare - Sonnet #29
When, in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least,
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate
For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings,
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
...so no...its not possible...