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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jaejonna on June 19, 2007, 12:24:30 PM
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Before myspace was invented, he lied about his age?
Whats the story behind that ?
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He used to claim he was born in 1939, but the truth is he was born in 1930. That man had it all together up until the late 1980's.
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He used to claim he was born in 1939, but the truth is he was born in 1930. That man had it all together up until the late 1980's.
he won a show in 90 or 91, can't remember which year it was but he was awsome back inthe day.
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So in the pic above from the 84 Mr. O...i think ...he would of been 54 ?
Wow ..thats a true testament to the fact that BB is a marathon not a sprint..so all the Cranberry's, Kucklos, and Evan Cetaphopolis ...(names of young dudes spelled wrong) ....
Todays lesson
it doesnt matter how young you start but how old you stay...
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He used to claim he was born in 1939, but the truth is he was born in 1930. That man had it all together up until the late 1980's.
Sorry, other way around. He claims he was born in 1930 to make it seem more impressive that he was so much older but he was really born in 1938.
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So in the pic above from the 84 Mr. O...i think ...he would of been 54 ?
Wow ..thats a true testament to the fact that BB is a marathon not a sprint..so all the Cranberry's, Kucklos, and Evan Cetaphopolis ...(names of young dudes spelled wrong) ....
Todays lesson
it doesnt matter how young you start but how old you stay...
not to nit pic but that pic isn't from the 84 olympia...or at least I don't think it is.
I think you can see Albert getting 3rd place in the lighter class in pumping iron, I haven't seen that part in awhile but I think that's the case.
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That still would have made him 46 in 1984 which is still impressive.
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He used to claim he was born in 1939, but the truth is he was born in 1930. That man had it all together up until the late 1980's.
so he is a dead man :D
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damn, the last time i lied about being older was to get into clubs whilst underage.
his rear double bi was phenomenal.
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beckles looks great, no matter how old he was.
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1938 is still impressive. he won his last contest in 1991, so he was 53 years old!!
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Before myspace was invented, he lied about his age?
Whats the story behind that ?
Who said he LIED? and what reason would there be for him to LIE about his age? More impressive?...that sounds like a LIE to me. I believe the man was born in 1930. I think the fact he looked as good as he did/does made quite a few pricks JEALOUS and therefore the rumors about not being as old as he said he is. I saw him around 1993 or 4 and he LOOKED GREAT. He was at a show at Manhattan Community College in New York and the host of the show said then that he was 63 and the audience gasped and Oooed , because he looked so good and was so ripped. There is much to be said about using the roids from back in the day. These guys like Beckles, Ferrigno etc are still around and still look good where as todays champs with all of their new roids are dying at thirty years of age.
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NO, it was revealed that he was really born in 1930. He claimed to be 7 years younger than he truly was. Where did YOU get your facts from?
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There is much to be said about using the roids from back in the day. These guys like Beckles, Ferrigno etc are still around and still look good where as todays champs with all of their new roids are dying at thirty years of age.
Beckles almost died from a clot in his leg. Blamed his low sodium diet IIRC.
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He flew with the Wright Brothers. Hope this helps ;D
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It is a shame he didn't lie about his ugly simian face.
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Beckles is one of my all-time favorites, not a weak part on his whole body and a great poser.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab3.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab23.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab63.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab69.jpg)
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:o
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab70.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab235.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab237.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab61.jpg)
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:o
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab213.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab57.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab65.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab168.jpg)
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Albert changed ages circa 1984. While the rest of us aged one more year, he aged several. Before then, by looking at the relevant issues of Health & Strength and studying when he arrived in England, and at what ages he then competed, the math works fine if he was born in 1938.
In some of the events he entered, were he born in 1930, he would have been in the senior division- he was not.
Before 1984 he is quoted as insisting he was of an age indicating a 1938 birth even though others tried to claim he was older.
Why would he do this- claim to be of the general age of Park and Pearl? Beats me. Marketing would be one reason- look this good at this advanced age or whatever.
I wrote an article for cyberpump.com offering many specific instances to support why I believe he was born in 1938.
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The top photo is from the 88 Olympia,and no matter what age he was in 1991 when he won a pro show,what i saw him do at our gym was amazing.It was the day before the grand prix and he came in to train chest,he picked up a pair of 10 pound dumbells and did 15 reps.He rested about a minute and moved along the rack to the next weights and did 15 reps.In total he did 18 sets and went all the way along the rack using every pair of dumbells up to the 160s where he did a set of 10 reps.
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Whatever his age may be, he still looks great. I see the guy every day at the gym. He trains with Mohamad Mozen, Dream Tan owner. Mohamad is looking pretty impressive as he is getting ready for Masters Nationals.
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Whatever his age may be, he still looks great. I see the guy every day at the gym. He trains with Mohamad Mozen, Dream Tan owner. Mohamad is looking pretty impressive as he is getting ready for Masters Nationals.
the above expresses my sentiments but in a nice and civil tone. unlike the language i would have selected which would have certainly been less articulate and thoughtful. who gives a flying fuck if champion albert beckles lied about his age. as marion barry said: "get over it"
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To be clear, I do not know if Albert lied about his age- I do know there is a major discrepancy.
Who cares? Those of us who want facts. Were Bill Pearl and Albert born the same year? If so the stats I track (oldest winner etc) will be different than if Albert is eight years younger than Bill.
If Albert at age 27 had competed in the teenage division against a 19-year old, that would also matter.
If others, for whatever reason, do not care about such details, okay.
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wow :o
i remember the first when i picked up my second muscle mag when i was a little kid (circa 1986). i bought the mag purely because there were pics and article of beckles re his tips on gaining muscle mass. i was absolutely awe struck by those pics and i hung on every word i read (i now know it probably wasn't him that wrote it ;D). as a kid i didn't give a hoot whether this guy was 20 or 60 i just knew i wanted a body like his. to think he was nearly 50 at that time is just mind boggling.
the only thing i thought sucked about his advice was that muscle mass should be gained slowly. i mean wtf 14 year old male wants to gain size slowly. i liked arnolds advice better, but i just didn't have the balls or the know how to get me some dianabol. ;D besides, no way would my parents let me. my own mother used to tell me even at this age that she thought my muscles were gross (my arms were all of about 14" :-\) and my dad, who was built like a tank thought i was a complete narcissist. "you gotta work a real job to get real muscles." ::)
what's even more shocking when looking at mtm's pics is that beckles pretty much owns fox in the front double bi shot. his arms are actually bigger overall, more shredded and better balanced than fox's. :o, but that might have more to do with brutal's seemingly inability to know how to get shredded without losing a ton of muscle. what was that with fox ??? :-\
beckles is a bbing legend. an absolute rarity in sports and had a ton of class to go with it.
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Albert is proof that Ronnie Coleman can come back and win. People are saying Ronnie is over the hill, etc. But Albert looks better than most pros today when he was competing back in his 40's and 50's.
Albert's bicep peaks are freaky as hell.
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is ronnie still on the bovine growth hormone therapy?
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Albert is proof that Ronnie Coleman can come back and win. People are saying Ronnie is over the hill, etc. But Albert looks better than most pros today when he was competing back in his 40's and 50's.
Albert's bicep peaks are freaky as hell.
true, i believe ronnie definitely has it in him. i actually think that the only thing that can hurt ronnie is himself, not father time (been and gone). like yates, he is a brutally heavy trainer and like yates he has already paid the price for that. he knows that to progress he has to push it to that fine line between continued improvement and injury.
people say that he should back off, train lighter/refine/maintain, but if he doesn't equal or surpass what he did in, say 2002, why on earth would his body retain that muscle and quality. fans and the judges expect him to come in with the same freaky muscle quality or more every time he appears at the olympia and if he eases off so will his body. the thing is, his body may be better than the comp but he'll get marked down simply for being less than his best. it's human nature.
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It is a shame he didn't lie about his ugly simian face.
WELL THERE DEFINETLY IS NO LIE IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ONE UGLY MOFO?
HERE YOU ARE PLAYING WITH YOUR BROTHER
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The picture at the beginning of this thread was from the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest where Albert came seventh beating quite a few much younger men:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Olympia+-+IFBB&y=1987
I don't agree with that placing but I think he was top 10 material. He was 49 at the time of that contest. For more pictures check out the gallery below:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987
IMO, Gaspari deserved to win that contest as he made Lee Haney look like a pile of dough.
Albert competed until 1991 when he was 53 and beat Milos Sarcev and Sonny Schmidt at the Niagara Falls Pro:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Niagara+Falls+Pro+Invitational+-+IFBB&y=1991
Some people may be jealous of Albert but I would say most are just looking to get the facts. Albert's birth certificate apparently said 1938 but with the top half of the 8 erased. It's possible even Albert himself didn't know his real age.
Check the picture gallery here and see that Albert did sport a gut too:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/albecklesseminardvd.html
He really needs to teach Ronnie and some of the other guys about how to control it. On stage you would never know Albert had such distention.
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imo gaspari was the most shredded bber to grace the stage up until that point in time. even more so than munzer at that point.
however, he just didn't have the structure, symmetry and upper body size and thickness of lee haney. it was a genetic thing. the taper and other aesthetic qualities gaspari was NEVER going to attain no matter what he did. it sucks but that's the cards he was dealt.
his prep, discilpine and single minded determination was second to none. if it was about condition and muscularity, gaspari by a landslide.
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Beckles and Bertil
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab183.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab161.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab184.jpg)
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Beckles, Gaspari and Haney
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab162.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab66.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/beckles/ab67.jpg)
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haney's waist is re dick you lus.....
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imo gaspari was the most shredded bber to grace the stage up until that point in time. even more so than munzer at that point.
however, he just didn't have the structure, symmetry and upper body size and thickness of lee haney. it was a genetic thing. the taper and other aesthetic qualities gaspari was NEVER going to attain no matter what he did. it sucks but that's the cards he was dealt.
his prep, discilpine and single minded determination was second to none. if it was about condition and muscularity, gaspari by a landslide.
Good assessment. Some bodybuilding contests are judged like that though, so a win by Gaspari could have been justified.
Another Beckles thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=64596.0
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The picture at the beginning of this thread was from the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest where Albert came seventh beating quite a few much younger men:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Olympia+-+IFBB&y=1987
I don't agree with that placing but I think he was top 10 material. He was 49 at the time of that contest. For more pictures check out the gallery below:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987
IMO, Gaspari deserved to win that contest as he made Lee Haney look like a pile of dough.
Albert competed until 1991 when he was 53 and beat Milos Sarcev and Sonny Schmidt at the Niagara Falls Pro:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Niagara+Falls+Pro+Invitational+-+IFBB&y=1991
Some people may be jealous of Albert but I would say most are just looking to get the facts. Albert's birth certificate apparently said 1938 but with the top half of the 8 erased. It's possible even Albert himself didn't know his real age.
Check the picture gallery here and see that Albert did sport a gut too:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/albecklesseminardvd.html
He really needs to teach Ronnie and some of the other guys about how to control it. On stage you would never know Albert had such distention.
NO, I have the Muscle and Fitness issue covering the 1987 Mr. Olympia and it CLEARLY states that Lee Haney is 27 and Beckles is 57. He was born in 1930.
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Furthermore, Bertil Fox was said to have been down to 215 pounds for the contest and that he was HALF the size he normally was, because the pressure's of the judges telling him he had to cut down. In the process he lost MOST of his muscle. The man should have been 260 onstage and would have dwarfed EVERYONE with his 22" pythons, rather than his emciated version he brought to the table after 1982.
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From Health & Strength September 2, 1965 Al's age is given as 27, hence born 1938.
As I mentioned, the storyline changed later, after several assertions referring to the 1938 date were well established and fit into the chronology of events.
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The picture at the beginning of this thread was from the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest where Albert came seventh beating quite a few much younger men:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Olympia+-+IFBB&y=1987
I don't agree with that placing but I think he was top 10 material. He was 49 at the time of that contest. For more pictures check out the gallery below:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987
IMO, Gaspari deserved to win that contest as he made Lee Haney look like a pile of dough.
Albert competed until 1991 when he was 53 and beat Milos Sarcev and Sonny Schmidt at the Niagara Falls Pro:
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Niagara+Falls+Pro+Invitational+-+IFBB&y=1991
Some people may be jealous of Albert but I would say most are just looking to get the facts. Albert's birth certificate apparently said 1938 but with the top half of the 8 erased. It's possible even Albert himself didn't know his real age.
Check the picture gallery here and see that Albert did sport a gut too:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/albecklesseminardvd.html
He really needs to teach Ronnie and some of the other guys about how to control it. On stage you would never know Albert had such distention.
Not really a "gut"...
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The picture at the beginning of this thread was from the 1987 Mr. Olympia contest where Albert came seventh beating quite a few much younger men:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987
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Matt,trust me,the first pic is from the 88 Olympia,check out your own photos that you linked to,you will see its a different background.
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The 88 olympia background had cylindrical shapes and purple and blues as the backdrop.