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PBW Presents “The Milos Seminar – On the Radio” - PART 2
MORE WITH MILOS - PART 2 - Listen Now!
Due to the popularity of last weeks show, PBW welcomed Milos back for Part 2 of the special "Milos Sarcev Radio Seminar". Back by popular demand, Milos and Bob take a closer look into the training protocols of one of bodybuilding's top trainers. Presented by MuscleTech on Monday at 8pm ET (5pm PT)
"Part 1" and "Part 2" of the PBW-Milos Seminar, are available now. Visit Replay Central at www.BodybuildingRadio.com (http://www.BodybuildingRadio.com)
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Part 1 (July 2nd) “Pro Bodybuilding Weekly” presents a special radio event as Milos Sarcev joins the show LIVE from the Koloseum Gym in Southern California for an open Q&A session. In his first public appearance since his IFBB suspension, Sarcev discusses the issues, along with topics ranging from training to contest prep in a format comprised of questions PROVIDED BY YOU, the listeners. Special Appearance by Top Ranked NPC USA Contender Peter Putnam Listen Now - On Demand!
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ask milos what happened to his boy Dennis James. And why he kicked silvyo's ass to the curb.
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awesome
I'll listen for once
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awesome
I'll listen for once
LOL, Stavios.. you never miss an episode! ::)
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LOL, Stavios.. you never miss an episode! ::)
haha I love to listen to the show tho, but I always forget about it
I listened to last week ( or maybe 2 weeks ago ) episode with Labrada and it was pretty good !
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That's great but what is this week? TODAY?? Why do you skip weeks.. you've got a fanbase.. >:(
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haha I love to listen to the show tho, but I always forget about it
I listened to last week ( or maybe 2 weeks ago ) episode with Labrada and it was pretty good !
That was one of the best episodes ever :)
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That's great but what is this week? TODAY?? Why do you skip weeks.. you've got a fanbase.. >:(
We've also got other obligations, family, and travel to consider....I've been to my house 10 days in the last month.
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That's great but what is this week? TODAY?? Why do you skip weeks.. you've got a fanbase.. >:(
We aim for 45 shows each year. The week-off gives us a chance to finalize some new syndication & distribution deals for PBW (for the benefit of our advertisers) and schedule guests for upcoming shows. -- By the way, you guys came STRONG the last 2 weeks! Priest, Padilla and Labrada pulled big numbers. Next weeks show with Milos will be comprised of 100% YOUR questions.
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Q #1: What is the best way to bring up a weak bodypart in your opinion ?
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Chick, Dan.. no problem. Just something I look forward to each week! :)
Ever consider keeping the radio format however having you guys air it live / stream? Perhaps a setup of you guys behind a desk with guests actually coming in to the show, etc. Maybe like a late-night talk show setup.
;D
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Chick, Dan.. no problem. Just something I look forward to each week! :)
Ever consider keeping the radio format however having you guys air it live / stream? Perhaps a setup of you guys behind a desk with guests actually coming in to the show, etc. Maybe like a late-night talk show setup.
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We've actually done very similiar at some of the shows when we are webcasting....timing and schedule is always the key. We set up the PBW desk at the BB.com booth, and have guests on...
Maye a the Europa...
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We aim for 45 shows each year. The week-off gives us a chance to finalize some new syndication & distribution deals for PBW (for the benefit of our advertisers) and schedule guests for upcoming shows. -- By the way, you guys came STRONG the last 2 weeks! Priest, Padilla and Labrada pulled big numbers. Next weeks show with Milos will be comprised of 100% YOUR questions.
100% Getbig questions?
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Ask him to share 3 simple training methodologies for intermediate bodybuilders (the majority of folks listening).
Ask him about recovery from that high-volumne stuff he talks about. When stubbs talked about their workouts, he spoke of brutal all-morning quad workouts and hams in the afternoons, just dozens of sets.
Ask him about his theory on loaded shakes, before, during, and after workouts. How do his guys not vomit?
Ask him to assign a percentage to training, nutrition, and "supplementation" of value that he brings to the equation. Is he more training protocols than anything else (his butal workouts are what we hear about).
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I would like to know if Milos recommends his giant set protocol to natural trainers and could it be limited to say 3-4 exercises rather than the six or so that have been documented.
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Ask Milos who is better at getting guys ready for a show - Charles Glass, Chad Nicholls, or himself?
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I've got a few questions:
#1 Ask what Milos opinion is on going to failure. If it's necessary at all. Or if it's necessary only for specific training - hypertrophy or perhaps strength gains.
And if it's necessary - how often? Every set? Only the last set? Every workout, or maybe only every other workout etc. (the benefit of course with NOT going to failure is you can train more frequently since you need less time to recover)
#2 In Milos experience, is it possible to dramatically increase size of calves/forearms? Or are these two muscle groups doomed unless you got the genetics for them. Has he ever worked with anyone that noticably increased the size of these two bodyparts over time?
#3 Most of us like to believe science over anything else. And unless there's studies backing up theories we tend to not care about them. Can Milos give a few examples where his personal experience is different than what science/studies claim? For example - a lot of people say you cannot develop your inner chest, that no matter what you do the shape is genetic, but from what I can remember Milos claims you can. I'd like to hear him talk about that and give other examples.
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Ask Milos straight up to predict the 1-2-3 finishers at the 2007 Olympia.
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Ask Milos what his criminal trial cost U.S. taxpayers and why we should grant him asylum/citizenship if he's just here to break the law.
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Ask Milos if Kris Dim's recent heart problems were as a result of ANY training protocols?
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Milos... "What do you think of the persistent rumors that Bob Chick wears a hairpiece?"
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Milos :I've got a few questions too
##What's your suggestions about IFBB's judging (Pro and Amateur ,to prevent wrong doing)
##Can you explain the definition of Milosism ?
##You are one of best training guru in the industry , I hope IFBB can organize a worldwide BB trainers's system and invite you as head coach to instruct the IFBB's international members .how do you think ?
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yeah buddy it's on!
milos coming on tonight baby!!!
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Ask Milos what's inside the belly of "The Menace".
He'll know what you're talking about.
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ask milos if he could pick just ONE exercise per bodypart what would he pick
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ask some training and nutrition questions!!!
the drama, gossip, and he said/she said is fun.
But milos is one of the top 3 trainers in the industry - pick his brain!! He could probably rattle on for 60 seconds about what 200-pound intermediate trainers (most folks here) should do to improve, and it'd be gold!
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yes i agree there's enough gossip about the industry we want to hear tips that we can take with us to the gym!!!
ask milos which exercises he think should be AVOIDED, or which ones he feel are more potentially dangerous than others
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Ask Milos,
How long should a workout be?
What is his ideal rep range, and does it change precontest vs. offseason?
What are essential supplements that every bodybuilder should use or consider using?
What do you see in the future for bodybuilding, and what advice can you give to teens and younger guys looking to be successfull bodybuilders?
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1. "What is in those pre,during and post workout shakes of his? There is more in those shakes than what is published in Flex, what are the secret ingredients?
2. Does he ever plan to compete again? Will he make a comeback?
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here we go...
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DeMilia is starting a cage fighting organization.
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does RHINO get to keep his stars?
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does RHINO get to keep his stars?
LOL! ;D
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I like the name Putnam, it sounds cool 8)
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I like the name Putnam, is sounds cool 8)
He and his wife are a couple of bible-beating putzes. They came on here a while back and pissed everyone off by getting into it with Dina for no good reason.
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Peter is over hyped... He better win by a long shot. If not he's just another chris cook
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He and his wife are a couple of bible-beating putzes. They came on here a while back and pissed everyone off by getting into it with Dina for no good reason.
really ?
don't remember that at all ???
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Did that redneck just say he is "on point?"
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He and his wife are a couple of bible-beating putzes. They came on here a while back and pissed everyone off by getting into it with Dina for no good reason.
hahahaha oh brother not another Jesus freak who uses drugs like they're candy. ::)
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really ?
don't remember that at all ???
It was about a year ago, maybe longer down on the fitness/figure board.
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It was about a year ago, maybe longer down on the fitness/figure board.
ah that's why I missed it
I don't watch the other board that much, mainly the gossip board
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He and his wife are a couple of bible-beating putzes. They came on here a while back and pissed everyone off by getting into it with Dina for no good reason.
Yes I recall that well. It was exceptionally rude and ill mannered :-\
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Sounds like Dans got the hots for Jessica.
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So He's BOBS little hype
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Sounds like Dans got the hots for Jessica.
She looked great in the Flex swimsuit edition.. :o
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I have troubles understanding Milos
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I have troubles understanding Milos
Me Too >:(
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shut up, i can't hear!
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shut up, i can't hear!
LMAO
ok it's a little better now the sound quality is a little better
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i hope they don't talk about this suspension bullshit the whole time.
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LMAO
ok it's a little better now the sound quality is a little better
I have to turn my volume waaay up for Milos and waaay down for Chick...heh.
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i hope they don't talk about this suspension bullshit the whole time.
yeah they should STFU with the bullshit, ask him training questions
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Enough with the drama bs!!!! get to the training ?'s......
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I am sure Milos is tired of talking about the Silvio bullshit anyway
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Milos is all man, he takes the fall for Dennis
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Milos would be happy to do a show specially about juice
DO IT ! ;D
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Ok get this guy on CNN to tell the world that
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Brutally honest
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how many guys are going to start using the pre and during workout drink, i'll admit it's got me interested.
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how many guys are going to start using the pre and during workout drink, i'll admit it's got me interested.
I use it every day ;D
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I use it every day ;D
tell me what you use again Garraeth if you don't mind.
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tell me what you use again Garraeth if you don't mind.
http://koloseum.com/
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Wow Milos is a great speaker and comes across very intelligent and is prob one of the more passionate guests they have had
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http://koloseum.com/
could i get by with 12 oz. grape juice, 5 grams of powdered BCAA's and 5 grams of my creatine powder?
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Good question BOB
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Not 1 Getbig ? answered WTF
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could i get by with 12 oz. grape juice, 5 grams of powdered BCAA's and 5 grams of my creatine powder?
I'd up it to 10-20g aminos...and I think the fruit carbs is bad -- can't remember why...maybe digestion time...but probably put in some vartigo or sizeon to get quick carbs.
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Garreth can you give an example of a "poor mans Milos Drink"
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Garreth can you give an example of a "poor mans Milos Drink"
seems like the one i mentioned would do 75-80 percent of the trick, it's not exactly what he recommends but it's close and it's what i'm gonna use.
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Garreth can you give an example of a "poor mans Milos Drink"
um...before he made the KNS stuff, this is what I did...
20g aminos + dextrose for the "during" workout.
I never made the pre cuz I didn't know.
And the post I did protein + vitargo.
But I like the KNS cuz it's all together, and higher quality (the aminojo brand).
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http://koloseum.com/
WTF!
Aminos, Whey protein, Carbs and Creatine. Where the hell are the revolutionary ingredients that Milos promised? LOL, he is like 10 years behind the curve. What exactly is new about this?
And.... Where is the Vitargo? Milos uses what he himself has said are inferior carb sources; dextrose and maltodextrine. I KNOW why he didn't go for the Vitargo - it was too expensive!
Just like I predicted, nothing new, just carbs and aminos and creatine. A waste of money.
If you want to recreate this for a fraction of the price just buy amino powder and malto/dex.
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WTF!
Aminos, Whey protein, Carbs and Creatine. Where the hell are the revolutionary ingredients that Milos promised? LOL, he is like 10 years behind the curve. What exactly is new about this?
And.... Where is the Vitargo? Milos uses what he himself has said are inferior carb sources; dextrose and maltodextrine. I KNOW why he didn't go for the Vitargo - it was too expensive!
Just like I predicted, nothing new, just carbs and aminos and creatine. A waste of money.
If you want to recreate this for a fraction of the price just buy amino powder and malto/dex.
you don't think that taking that while you train will aid in growth and recovery?
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you don't think that taking that while you train will aid in growth and recovery?
VB seems to have a personal thing against everything Milos says.
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I have troubles understanding Milos
To tell you the truth - I have a hard time understanding myself...
If I leave the phone message for my wife - but I come home first and listen to my message - I have to ask her: "what did I say?"
Oh well... ::)
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Me Too >:(
What's wrong with you?
Don't you speak English?
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you don't think that taking that while you train will aid in growth and recovery?
It may aid to a degree, probably not more than having a whey/dex shake before and after workouts for example. Won't have drug like effects or affect muscle growth to the degree that Milos says, that I'm certain of.
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VB seems to have a personal thing against everything Milos says.
Not everything but I'm against exaggerated claims aimed at impressionable bodybuilders. I knew it was nothing revolutionary like Milos said a few months ago. These pre/post workout mixes have been around for many years. Just take a look at Biotest's Surge product.
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It may aid to a degree, probably not more than having a whey/dex shake before and after workouts for example. Won't have drug like effects or affect muscle growth to the degree that Milos says, that I'm certain of.
no i wouldn't expect drug like effects but what he said was pretty imteresting.
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i hope they don't talk about this suspension bullshit the whole time.
No kidding...but I hope everyone got my point?
I witnessed the "murder" and reported...
I was told that FULL INVESTIGATION of this matter is on the way...(I was hoping INVESTIGATION of the - murder...but ended up to be only investigation of "my conduct")...Hmmmmm?
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No kidding...but I hope everyone got my point?
I witnessed the "murder" and reported...
I was told that FULL INVESTIGATION of this matter is on the way...(I was hoping INVESTIGATION of the - murder...but ended up to be only investigation of "my conduct")...Hmmmmm?
it's OK though, I read Paul Chua is retiring all of the sudden ::)
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I have to turn my volume waaay up for Milos and waaay down for Chick...heh.
I was told to speak as loud as possible...and I did...
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no i wouldn't expect drug like effects but what he said was pretty imteresting.
I just missed the show so I'll have to listen to the replay.
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I was told to speak as loud as possible...and I did...
yeah it wasn't your voice -- it was the sound levels
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Milos is all man, he takes the fall for Dennis
Well, I was responsible and he didn't look as planned - so it is my fault...
Still puzzled about it...but by all means I take the blame.
First - we could have plaid "safe" but I convinced him to go "all out" into shocking, exploding fullness that would make everyone realize how big he really is.
Not too many of you guys saw DJ - full as a house...I did...and it is scary sight...
I was hoping that this kind a look will make everyone take a notice...but we went overboard and he didn't look as planned...
Still, talking about contest prep in general - as I said - it is very easy to JUST GET RIPPED AND DRY...
Once you start "pushing the envelope" and take chances - you pay for the consequences...
Other Dennis (Wolf) for example carbed up with almost 5000 grams of carbs in matter of three days...and we did push the envelope in his case - and he won...
I did 72 pro shows and 72 different preparations regarding my "last week"...Also, I discuss with my athletes exactly WHAT KIND OF LOOK we want to achieve for each and every show...
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Milos is passionate about this stuff you have to like that.
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holy shit 5000 grams of carbs. :o
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Milos would be happy to do a show specially about juice
DO IT ! ;D
Very happy INDEED...
I hope one day to be on Larry King Live confronting major medical experts who state that juice is "destructive"...
ABUSE of anything is damaging and destructive...
Too much WATER could kill...(find numerous cases on Internet IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE) - so is water also "destructive"?
ANABOLISM is CONSTRUCTIVE metabolism...remember that.
Anabolic medicaments or supplements are designed to be given to catabolic patients...Old, weak, injured, BURNED ::), HIV+, muscle wasting...etc...etc...+ Anabolic anything = strong, healthy, HAPPY...SUPERMAN... ;) - just ask Lee...
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Ok get this guy on CNN to tell the world that
Please do.
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Brutally honest
And proud of it.
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this is my favorite drinks pre and post sessions,,
pre- 25-50mg ephedrine + 400mg caffeine + little aspirin + 25-50mcg t3 + 2-3mg letro or arimidex and 30mg nolva to make estrogen none existant since estrogen is for girly men when preping,,+ 3 bananas + 100-150mcg clenbuterol or 6mg albuterol + one broken milky winstrol for the color ;) + 30-40mg halo because i like the taste
i take all this,, i mixed it in a nice drink that i call thegh15nobullshitdrink,,then i zip it while taking a dump or peeing
post training i do this,,
i take insulin fast acting put it in me with growth mixed because i love to piss mr gareth off ;),,,then i zip on some eggwhites or protien shake with another banana,,then i wait till my taste buds feel they wanna eat and they do very fast because you remember the t3 from the pre drink....,,,i enter a nice cuban or german place order good nice healthy meal :) and finish it up with my version of crystal light pink lemonade with another 50mcg of t3,,
my muscles love this routine ;)
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this is my favorite drinks pre and post sessions,,
pre- 25-50mg ephedrine + 400mg caffeine + little aspirin + 25-50mcg t3 + 2-3mg letro or arimidex and 30mg nolva to make estrogen none existant since estrogen is for girly men when preping,,+ 3 bananas + 100-150mcg clenbuterol or 6mg albuterol + one broken milky winstrol for the color ;) + 30-40mg halo because i like the taste
i take all this,, i mixed it in a nice drink that i call thegh15nobullshitdrink,,then i zip it while taking a dump or peeing
post training i do this,,
i take insulin fast acting put it in me with growth mixed because i love to piss mr gareth off ;),,,then i zip on some eggwhites or protien shake with another banana,,then i wait till my taste buds feel they wanna eat and they do very fast because you remember the t3 from the pre drink....,,,i enter a nice cuban or german place order good nice healthy meal :) and finish it up with my version of crystal light pink lemonade with another 50mcg of t3,,
my muscles love this routine ;)
hahahahhaaaa.
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this is my favorite drinks pre and post sessions,,
pre- 25-50mg ephedrine + 400mg caffeine + little aspirin + 25-50mcg t3 + 2-3mg letro or arimidex and 30mg nolva to make estrogen none existant since estrogen is for girly men when preping,,+ 3 bananas + 100-150mcg clenbuterol or 6mg albuterol + one broken milky winstrol for the color ;) + 30-40mg halo because i like the taste
i take all this,, i mixed it in a nice drink that i call thegh15nobullshitdrink,,then i zip it while taking a dump or peeing
post training i do this,,
i take insulin fast acting put it in me with growth mixed because i love to piss mr gareth off ;),,,then i zip on some eggwhites or protien shake with another banana,,then i wait till my taste buds feel they wanna eat and they do very fast because you remember the t3 from the pre drink....,,,i enter a nice cuban or german place order good nice healthy meal :) and finish it up with my version of crystal light pink lemonade with another 50mcg of t3,,
my muscles love this routine ;)
You're a moron. You're taking your GH with a banana...should be taking with kiwi fruit. shit, even a neophyte such as I know that ::)
But seriously why would the HRT doc tell me what he did if it's bullshit?
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how many guys are going to start using the pre and during workout drink, i'll admit it's got me interested.
I have been talking about it for years but some would just not want to listen...
THE ONLY opportunity during a day when blood flow to the muscle is overwhelming is only DURING the training!
Think!
Normally 5 liters of blood goes through your body with 10-15...OK - 20 % (tops) going to your muscles at rest...
Blood flow increases 5 fold (or more) during intense training...and 60-70...even 80 % going to your muscles!!!
Are you paying attention?
Now, what if that blood is SATURATED with most anabolic nutrients in elemental form - ready to be pushed into the cells (should I say muscle cells)?
Free form aminos - SPECIFIC ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS that your body CANNOT manufacture within and therefore MUST be consumed - in right amounts at the right time being in blood which is now delivered to the working muscle with TRANSPORTER (insulin) available and ready to push ALL THE NUTRIENTS (aminos, glucose, ATP...) where they suppose to go (muscle cells off course)...
Think of blood already saturated (with PRE WORKOUT DRINK OF CHOICE) that is continuously being "fortified" with additional nutrients of choice (through DURING THE WORKOUT DRINK - which is taken after each set...)
Now think of the TYPE of the workout that I am using with my athletes (GIANT SETS - crazy intensity, high volume, variety of exercises, angles, principles, grips, speeds...etc...etc - which certainly stimulates MORE muscle fibers and muscle cells than ANY OTHER WORKOUT...) - nutrients IN and OUT...blood flow to the MAX...muscle stimulation extraordinary and CONSTANT...Storage hormone present and ready to "free" super saturated blood from overwhelming amount of glucose and aminos...and cells (muscle cells off course) "screaming" for them....
What do you think will happen?
Empty cells surrounded with glucose and aminos in presence of insulin would REFUSE to take anything as science tells us that body should wait for the "window of opportunity" for that to happen - AFTER THE WORKOUT?
THINK AGAIN!
Well, that's simplified version of my theory which contradicts what is accepted by many experts in field of exercise physiology...
Why it is not accepted yet?
Because nobody really suggested for this to be considered and study to be made...
Do the "study" and publish results...than criticize...
Also, as some would think - nothing new...simple whey, creatine, glutamine, vitargo in any amounts would do it...DON'T BE SO SURE...
It is much more than that...and for patient - everything will be explained...OFF COURSE IF I GET THEIR INTEREST...
First step is: THINK ABOUT IT AND IF YOU FIND IT LOGICAL - TRY IT...and let me know what happens ;)
www.koloseum.com
Unfortunately - I don't have much of my "initial order" - and next order will be available in about 6 weeks...but few of you who will TRY - let me know what you think...
If you have any questions - find me on my board...as lately I don't have much time to come here (not that I don't want...but really have no time...Today is little exception...but I have to go now -anyway...)
Good luck...
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I have been talking about it for years but some would just not want to listen...
THE ONLY opportunity during a day when blood flow to the muscle is overwhelming is only DURING the training!
Think!
Normally 5 liters of blood goes through your body with 10-15...OK - 20 % (tops) going to your muscles at rest...
Blood flow increases 5 fold (or more) during intense training...and 60-70...even 80 % going to your muscles!!!
Are you paying attention?
Now, what if that blood is SATURATED with most anabolic nutrients in elemental form - ready to be pushed into the cells (should I say muscle cells)?
Free form aminos - SPECIFIC ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS that your body CANNOT manufacture within and therefore MUST be consumed - in right amounts at the right time being in blood which is now delivered to the working muscle with TRANSPORTER (insulin) available and ready to push ALL THE NUTRIENTS (aminos, glucose, ATP...) where they suppose to go (muscle cells off course)...
Think of blood already saturated (with PRE WORKOUT DRINK OF CHOICE) that is continuously being "fortified" with additional nutrients of choice (through DURING THE WORKOUT DRINK - which is taken after each set...)
Now think of the TYPE of the workout that I am using with my athletes (GIANT SETS - crazy intensity, high volume, variety of exercises, angles, principles, grips, speeds...etc...etc - which certainly stimulates MORE muscle fibers and muscle cells than ANY OTHER WORKOUT...) - nutrients IN and OUT...blood flow to the MAX...muscle stimulation extraordinary and CONSTANT...Storage hormone present and ready to "free" super saturated blood from overwhelming amount of glucose and aminos...and cells (muscle cells off course) "screaming" for them....
What do you think will happen?
Empty cells surrounded with glucose and aminos in presence of insulin would REFUSE to take anything as science tells us that body should wait for the "window of opportunity" for that to happen - AFTER THE WORKOUT?
THINK AGAIN!
Well, that's simplified version of my theory which contradicts what is accepted by many experts in field of exercise physiology...
Why it is not accepted yet?
Because nobody really suggested for this to be considered and study to be made...
Do the "study" and publish results...than criticize...
Also, as some would think - nothing new...simple whey, creatine, glutamine, vitargo in any amounts would do it...DON'T BE SO SURE...
It is much more than that...and for patient - everything will be explained...OFF COURSE IF I GET THEIR INTEREST...
First step is: THINK ABOUT IT AND IF YOU FIND IT LOGICAL - TRY IT...and let me know what happens ;)
www.koloseum.com
Unfortunately - I don't have much of my "initial order" - and next order will be available in about 6 weeks...but few of you who will TRY - let me know what you think...
If you have any questions - find me on my board...as lately I don't have much time to come here (not that I don't want...but really have no time...Today is little exception...but I have to go now -anyway...)
Good luck...
hey Milos do you think that 12 oz. grape juice, 5 grams of BCAA's and 5 grams of creatine is ok for a "poor man's" brew?
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hey Milos do you think that 12 oz. grape juice, 5 grams of BCAA's and 5 grams of creatine is ok for a "poor man's" brew?
I think his formula has not just BCAA'a, but all the essential AA's.
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To tell you the truth - I have a hard time understanding myself...
If I leave the phone message for my wife - but I come home first and listen to my message - I have to ask her: "what did I say?"
Oh well... ::)
don't get me wrong it was not about how you speak !
seems like the volume was low when you were talking, and when Bob was speaking it was really loud
it was better after a couple of minute
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I have been talking about it for years but some would just not want to listen...
THE ONLY opportunity during a day when blood flow to the muscle is overwhelming is only DURING the training!
Think!
Normally 5 liters of blood goes through your body with 10-15...OK - 20 % (tops) going to your muscles at rest...
Blood flow increases 5 fold (or more) during intense training...and 60-70...even 80 % going to your muscles!!!
It's actually a very good idea Milos...congrats.
This "reaction" in the body is called Active Hyperemia, and I think it increases blood flow to working muscles a lot more than five fold :o
Great way to capitalize on post workout "muscle feeding." ;)
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It's actually a very good idea Milos...congrats.
It's not a new idea by any means. Like I said Biotest has pimped this idea for years. There are studies on protein synthesis comparing aminos/protein taken before/after training (yes protein synthesis increases more acutely if you feed before, glycogen synthesis as well). There are studies showing a feeding increases blood flow further during training as well (via the vasodilation induced by insulin). Seems like Milos hasn't looked at the available research since he thinks his idea is new. Multiple supplement companies have pre/post amino/carb mixes out, and have for quite a while.
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It's not a new idea by any means. Like I said Biotest has pimped this idea for years. There are studies on protein synthesis comparing aminos/protein taken before/after training (yes protein synthesis increases more acutely if you feed before, glycogen synthesis as well). There are studies showing a feeding increases blood flow further during training as well (via the vasodilation induced by insulin). Seems like Milos hasn't looked at the available research since he thinks his idea is new. Multiple supplement companies have pre/post amino/carb mixes out, and have for quite a while.
You tryin' to say Milos owes John Berardi royalties? ;D
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Interesting that Milos advocates training similar to what Larry Scott did. Fast sets and super pump. Then he feeds the muscle often before, during and after pumping it. Is that sufficient to make muscles grow? Not sure. I have a different approach that I find successful for most muscles. Not sure I have the motivation to get really big legs!
Am curious what Milos thinks about gh15 training tips re drug immersion.
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It's not a new idea by any means. Like I said Biotest has pimped this idea for years. There are studies on protein synthesis comparing aminos/protein taken before/after training (yes protein synthesis increases more acutely if you feed before, glycogen synthesis as well). There are studies showing a feeding increases blood flow further during training as well (via the vasodilation induced by insulin). Seems like Milos hasn't looked at the available research since he thinks his idea is new. Multiple supplement companies have pre/post amino/carb mixes out, and have for quite a while.
Yep, nothing really new, Berardi and alot of other researchers have done the same thing, the only difference is most of the supps have to be NCAA approved. I just caught about a minute of this interview, but I heard him say that "I bet my life that this will put 30lbs of bodyweight on and very little fat" thats a bold statement that I seriously have to call bullshit on.
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Thinking back now,i remember about 18 years back or so when i used to work for Nutra-Life (Australian/New Zealand based co)...they had something quite similar to what was described to Milos.They guarantee results if you consumed this product pre and during workouts especially.I forget the name now but essentially its combination are pretty similar to what Milos described.I've used them before and got great workouts and recovery from it.Pity they dont make them anymore.
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hahahaha oh brother not another Jesus freak who uses drugs like they're candy. ::)
The all delete the word sorcery from their digital bibles.
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PRE/POST Drink? wasn't everyone doing this already. Just buy or make a protein shake and sip it from beginning to end throughout the workout, then have another one if you want after your workout. Whats the big deal?
i thought everyone was doing this.
I like Milos but this is a just a crass mass marketing ploy to get kids to spend more money on supplements they could make at home. It is another gimmick. Like the beauty industry they just keep repackaging the same shit, and giving it a different name. Why not just give the kids the recipe in a magazine so they can make it home? Thats what the pros used to do years ago.
Its as if Milos said "well if everyone is doing it why dont I get my hands in there too, make a few bucks". Take what I can and slip out the back door.
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this is my favorite drinks pre and post sessions,,
pre- 25-50mg ephedrine + 400mg caffeine + little aspirin + 25-50mcg t3 + 2-3mg letro or arimidex and 30mg nolva to make estrogen none existant since estrogen is for girly men when preping,,+ 3 bananas + 100-150mcg clenbuterol or 6mg albuterol + one broken milky winstrol for the color ;) + 30-40mg halo because i like the taste
i take all this,, i mixed it in a nice drink that i call thegh15nobullshitdrink,,then i zip it while taking a dump or peeing
post training i do this,,
i take insulin fast acting put it in me with growth mixed because i love to piss mr gareth off ;),,,then i zip on some eggwhites or protien shake with another banana,,then i wait till my taste buds feel they wanna eat and they do very fast because you remember the t3 from the pre drink....,,,i enter a nice cuban or german place order good nice healthy meal :) and finish it up with my version of crystal light pink lemonade with another 50mcg of t3,,
my muscles love this routine ;)
I tried the same thing once too.....
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Was that just a self ownage?
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Interesting that Milos advocates training similar to what Larry Scott did. Fast sets and super pump. Then he feeds the muscle often before, during and after pumping it. Is that sufficient to make muscles grow? Not sure. I have a different approach that I find successful for most muscles. Not sure I have the motivation to get really big legs!
Am curious what Milos thinks about gh15 training tips re drug immersion.
Vince - believe me...IT WORKS LIKE NOTHING ELSE...but you really have to give it the honest try...
I don't know NOTHING about gh15...or his tips...
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Yep, nothing really new, Berardi and alot of other researchers have done the same thing, the only difference is most of the supps have to be NCAA approved. I just caught about a minute of this interview, but I heard him say that "I bet my life that this will put 30lbs of bodyweight on and very little fat" thats a bold statement that I seriously have to call bullshit on.
John Berardi is my friend and BRILLIANT SCIENTIST, TRAINER...you name it...
I know that he shares the same theory as we have discussed it years ago...
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PRE/POST Drink? wasn't everyone doing this already. Just buy or make a protein shake and sip it from beginning to end throughout the workout, then have another one if you want after your workout. Whats the big deal?
i thought everyone was doing this.
I like Milos but this is a just a crass mass marketing ploy to get kids to spend more money on supplements they could make at home. It is another gimmick. Like the beauty industry they just keep repackaging the same shit, and giving it a different name. Why not just give the kids the recipe in a magazine so they can make it home? Thats what the pros used to do years ago.
Its as if Milos said "well if everyone is doing it why dont I get my hands in there too, make a few bucks". Take what I can and slip out the back door.
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#1 - nobody is doing it
#2- just any protein or any carbs WOULD NOT DO IT
#3- IF I wanted to make money by selling BS - I certainly wouldn't do it in my own backyard - putting my reputation behind it...I suggested THIS back in 90's in Weider offices...but Weider Nutrition Group didn't want to listen...I was since mixing my own "potions" and I simply decided to make available for everyone - as I was tired mixing things for others...
I was waiting for something similar to come out FOR YEARS...and as it didn't - I finally made it myself...
AMINO SCIENCE is where is at...and that's what I am focused on at the time...
Specific aminos could do WONDERS and that will soon be known to everyone.
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John Berardi is my friend and BRILLIANT SCIENTIST, TRAINER...you name it...
I know that he shares the same theory as we have discussed it years ago...
Shares it? I'm pretty sure he's the one who originated it. I know he has authored published, peer-reviewed work on this exact theory.
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Shares it? I'm pretty sure he's the one who originated it. I know he has authored published, peer-reviewed work on this exact theory.
I have been doing this SINCE 1981 pretty much...
When I came to US 1987 I did expose my theory to many people...and ONLY when I saw Berardi preaching similar thing I approached him (at SWIS convention), invited him to come to my gym and we talked about it...
I know that he shares the theory...and he laughed when he realized how long I have been talking about the same thing...
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We are getting into cellular physiology here and I wonder what Milos calls the process happening in the muscles with the additional feeding during exercise? Is part of the hypertrophy the swelling of the cells with nutrients? This isn't what scientists have been telling us for decades. Selye suggested that growth occurred after training. What we need is an explanation of the exact growth process. If we know that then we will know when to feed muscles, etc.
Milos has anecdotal experience with himself and those who train with him. Milos claimed he could put on 30 pounds of size in a month and no additional fat. Is this possible without drugs? I would hope that the discussion we are having here is for totally natural processes without any artificial agents. Nor any hormones made in the body, etc.
I would ask Milos how long a muscle needs to be trained in a day to grow the maximum that is possible for that muscle. If we use arms, then suppose a bodybuilder has 17 inch arms. How much growth is possible for this person in 10 workouts? How often can we train the same muscle to keep it growing?
Ah, the same old questions asked by everyone who ever lifted weights! I have my own theories and I am interested in hearing what Milos has to say about these questions.
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Milos has anecdotal experience with himself and those who train with him. Milos claimed he could put on 30 pounds of size in a month and no additional fat.
I would kill to have Milos' tutelage for a month. I would eat honey from a bee's nest if he told me to.
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I would kill to have Milos' tutelage for a month. I would eat honey from a bee's nest if he told me to.
Would you eat beepollen from Vince? That, my friend, is teh TRUE test of faith.
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I would kill to have Milos' tutelage for a month. I would eat honey from a bee's nest if he told me to.
Garraeth didn't have to do that. He was told to lube up his asshole and bend over, though... he can't remember what happened after that. :-\
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Would you eat beepollen from Vince? That, my friend, is teh TRUE test of faith.
I would smother Vince with a pillow if he asked. I trust him that much.
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A "During workout" shake was actually made by Nuclear Nutrition (Trevor Smith) anyone remember that???
It was my favorite, it had the consistency of juice...not like a "malt shake" so it didn't cause bloat, and was loaded with BCAA's and was to be sipped on throughout the workout... can't remember the name of it...I loved the stuff!!
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Garraeth didn't have to do that. He was told to lube up his asshole and bend over, though... he can't remember what happened after that. :-\
hey, come now...uncalled for.
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I'm doing chest later tonight. I kinda want to get a chocolate skim milk now to sip on while training.
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We are getting into cellular physiology here and I wonder what Milos calls the process happening in the muscles with the additional feeding during exercise? Is part of the hypertrophy the swelling of the cells with nutrients? This isn't what scientists have been telling us for decades. Selye suggested that growth occurred after training. What we need is an explanation of the exact growth process. If we know that then we will know when to feed muscles, etc.
Milos has anecdotal experience with himself and those who train with him. Milos claimed he could put on 30 pounds of size in a month and no additional fat. Is this possible without drugs? I would hope that the discussion we are having here is for totally natural processes without any artificial agents. Nor any hormones made in the body, etc.
I would ask Milos how long a muscle needs to be trained in a day to grow the maximum that is possible for that muscle. If we use arms, then suppose a bodybuilder has 17 inch arms. How much growth is possible for this person in 10 workouts? How often can we train the same muscle to keep it growing?
Ah, the same old questions asked by everyone who ever lifted weights! I have my own theories and I am interested in hearing what Milos has to say about these questions.
bump. for a Milos reply :)
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Milos argues that anabolic agents are a positive thing. From what I remember of the literature with Dianabol there were contraindications and side effects. In other words, it is not safe to take anabolic drugs for some people and there are side effects for everyone.
I would never feel responsible to make a statement that anabolic drugs were positive. They might have accumulated effects as well as specific short term side effects.
Another question I have is about so-called plasma expanders. Didn't Milos debate this topic a year or two ago here on Getbig? Didn't Chad propose that plasma expanders were possible and Milos was upset this knowledge wasn't being distributed to others in the game? Now we hear that a company is making this product. What gives? We surely cannot follow what drug and supplement companies are promoting.
If we are going to debate drugs and supplements we have to get the scientific facts out there so that we are informed. Doing anything less is the blind following those out to make a profit.
What really bothers me is that these threads end up reinforcing the notion that to be a champion you need drugs. That is not a fact. Not for the men. Who believes otherwise? If it is true that you need drugs to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead.
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Milos argues that anabolic agents are a positive thing. From what I remember of the literature with Dianabol there were contraindications and side effects. In other words, it is not safe to take anabolic drugs for some people and there are side effects for everyone.
I would never feel responsible to make a statement that anabolic drugs were positive. They might have accumulated effects as well as specific short term side effects.
Another question I have is about so-called plasma expanders. Didn't Milos debate this topic a year or two ago here on Getbig? Didn't Chad propose that plasma expanders were possible and Milos was upset this knowledge wasn't being distributed to others in the game? Now we hear that a company is making this product. What gives? We surely cannot follow what drug and supplement companies are promoting.
If we are going to debate drugs and supplements we have to get the scientific facts out there so that we are informed. Doing anything less is the blind following those out to make a profit.
What really bothers me is that these threads end up reinforcing the notion that to be a champion you need drugs. That is not a fact. Not for the men. Who believes otherwise? If it is true that you need drugs to be a champion then bodybuilding is dead.
"not safe for some and side effects for everyone" ???
Bro, I'm sorry but you just described EVERY drug out there. :o
My old Pharmacology professor put it best when he said that medications/pharmaceuticals are:
"metabolic poisons with desirable side effects" ;)
So, if you're going to separate AS from every other drug on the market for sleep, pain, depression etc. etc. try it from a different angle. ;D
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From what I have read of the research into cellular science it appears there is a mountain of information out there but it is difficult to comprehend. I always thought one day scientists who understood the hypertrophy process would be able to come up with new vitamins that would aid the building process and be natural agents found in the body.
In the meantime the supplement companies are having a field day because just about everyone believes drugs are necessary.
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Solomon do a great job !
But Milos's voice seems very small in the beginning (later is getting better)
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Well, I guess we are not going to debate the hypertrophy process here. What conclusions can anyone make about the kind of exercise required for hypertrophy and the timing and quality of supplements and nutrition?
Milos would like to debate the benefits of anabolic agents with experts on a TV show. I think we need such a debate here on Getbig where so many are searching for secrets. If a student of hypertrophy goes on line he will soon be confused about what to do. You have so many experts telling us different things re training. All those different methods cannot possibly be right. At best most give some results. The problem most bodybuilders have is to sustain growth. Most end up on plateaus and can't grow much any more. So these stalled trainees end up believing they absolutely require drugs to get much bigger. Either they give up or end up risking too much for gains.
Is Milos stating that his methods don't require drugs whatsoever? That would be great if it were so. He has stated that knowledge should be something available to everyone. That way it is a level playing field. I agree. So, Milos, do bodybuilders have to take anabolic drugs to be able to compete at the highest level?
Milos stated that he is responsible for the preparation of Dennis James recently. Is it that complicated to prepare for shows using goodness knows what? How can so many get it wrong just about every time? 72 contests and 72 different results? Can it be that difficult to know exactly what to do? If it is then there can be no knowledge because it sounds like trial and error.
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I always thought one day scientists who understood the hypertrophy process would be able to come up with new vitamins that would aid the building process and be natural agents found in the body.
And testosterone, GH and Insulin aren't natural substances found in the body? They are more natural than vitamins.
Fool.
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Just because hormones are natural in the body doesn't mean it is safe to take more of them. Hope this helps.
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Just because hormones are natural in the body doesn't mean it is safe to take more of them. Hope this helps.
As well as - just because hormones are natural in the body doesn't mean we have OPTIMAL AMOUNT AT ALL TIMES...and there are SPECIFIC TIMES when absence or insufficient amount of specific hormones COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE if muscle building is your ultimate goal.
Hope this helps.
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Vince - believe me...IT WORKS LIKE NOTHING ELSE...but you really have to give it the honest try...
I don't know NOTHING about gh15...or his tips...
Milos
GH15 has relevant tips. I think GH15 is Shawn's one other secret username.
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Great news! Just heard that PBW is bringing Milos back this week for a PART 2 with "Milos the Mind". It looks like Milos is still in high demand after last weeks show. Looking forward to hearing more from "The MInd". (Maybe Bob can get Milos to give us the recipe for his famous secret syrum)
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Ask Milos why plain old whey protein (combined with dextrose) as pre and during workout drinks wouldn't be just as good as free-form aminos? It seems to me the difference, if there is any at all, would be negligible.
(But then again, he couldn't sell whey+dextrose for $70, could he? ;D)
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Mr.Dan Solomon
Would's you please to raise Milos's volume while interviewing in PART 2 (Monday).
Thanks
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Ask Milos why plain old whey protein (combined with dextrose) as pre and during workout drinks wouldn't be just as good as free-form aminos? It seems to me the difference, if there is any at all, would be negligible.
(But then again, he couldn't sell whey+dextrose for $70, could he? ;D)
And IF Bob ask me that question and gives me enough time I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER IT...
Also, when I gave all of you guys a chance to come to my free seminar so you can ask me ANYTHING...where were you?
I said - I just don't have the time to answer in writing ALL the questions...so I organized free seminar for all the fans.
BTW - I will do it again IF there is interest as I want to give back to bodybuilding comunity...
I will even make MONTHLY EVENT (every month I can organize free seminar in my gym IF there is enough interested people) but I simply don't have the time to read and answer IN DEPTH all the questions on my board, here and elsewhere...
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Hope this helps.
haha you are becoming a true GetBigger Milos ;D
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BTW - I will do it again IF there is interest as I want to give back to bodybuilding comunity...
I will even make MONTHLY EVENT (every month I can organize free seminar in my gym IF there is enough interested people) but I simply don't have the time to read and answer IN DEPTH all the questions on my board, here and elsewhere...
is the second seminar still going to happen in Dec.?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=149955.0
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What do u think of John Berardi's Surge post workout drink milos??
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Sarcev back on todays show? Much respect for milos and his hot wife. Shes fine as hell!
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ask milos if whoever came up with the nickname "the mind" was being sarcastic :D
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Remember Bob & Dan, ask this:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156229.msg2219608#msg2219608
We need to know why we should spend $70 for his magic powder when $1.50 worth of whey & dextrose should do the trick nicely! Is a 0.01% improvment really worth $68.50? ;D
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Remember Bob & Dan, ask this:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=156229.msg2219608#msg2219608
We need to know why we should spend $70 for his magic powder when $1.50 worth of whey & dextrose should do the trick nicely! Is a 0.01% improvment really worth $68.50? ;D
and if you end up buying it, youll puke it all up before the end of the workout because of the INTENSITY
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yup yup yup! lets do this
BOOOOO
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some horrible music is playing. worst ive heard in 10 years
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They should ask Milos how many hoes he has fucked in his day
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They should ask Milos how many hoes he has fucked in his day
i bet he even lost count
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seriously what the hell is this? what band is this? im thinking of turning my computer off when i hear this shit
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i bet he even lost count
are you saying he use the same approach as to training? 5-10 seconds rest between? high intensity? always to failure?
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Dan is off tonight.
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thank you for turning the music off
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heres the play by play
chic
AH... UH...AH...AH...AH....UH. ..AH...
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chic sounds more and more like beavis and butt-head
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(http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-BeavisAndButthead01.jpg)
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are you saying he use the same approach as to training? 5-10 seconds rest between? high intensity? always to failure?
Makes sense actually, I bet he enjoyed a nice gang bang. One to the next, hit it hard, really work it...move to the next
BOOM
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(http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-BeavisAndButthead01.jpg)
Butthead has a nice pair of sausage tits in that picture
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what Milos says makes a lot of sense.
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what Milos says makes a lot of sense.
how can you tell
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no rest between sets, no rest after competition! milos is a machine!!!
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30-40 pound increase
it's gotta be the shake
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pretty good show actually. one on one talk is better, three is a crowd.
they should get charles glass on next and see what kinda theories he got so we can put him toe to toe against milos.
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so i take it milos do for example 1 heavy set for chest, then a number of more excercises with small weight because of the little rest then BACK to doing 1 heavy set again etc 3-4 rounds?
if so that part was left out in previous discussions as that would mean multiple sets on heavy weight which would make it a different story.
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hi bluto ;D
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hi bluto ;D
hello
great crowd tonight!
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And here is the photo of Troy from Saturday's GIANT SETS CHEST workout....
257 lbs
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unreal
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So, for those of you who know Troy and are familiar with his CHEST development - DO YOU SEE ANY DIFFERENCE?
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i dont know enough about his chest to tell the difference but i asume by you asking, that there's been changes made
so how long has he been training between the before chest and the now chest?
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more...
(http://www.koloseum.com/gallery/Galleries/1/33/IMG_0960.JPG)
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Hey Milos, what is your personal chest routine like? Like what exercises and how many sets?
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whoa Milos, did you steal one of the Charles Glass clients??
Good stuff though Milos...definitley thicker. Now lets see if he can keep that new muscle on
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if you scroll up and down really fast its almost like one of those moving picture movies
epic posting the same picture 9 times the only difference being his hand is 0.45mm to the left
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if he indeed is thicker the question is how long did it take for him to become thicker?
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So, for those of you who know Troy and are familiar with his CHEST development - DO YOU SEE ANY DIFFERENCE?
He just did a thousand reps for his chest. He's pumped to the hilt, of course there's going to be a difference ::)
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He just did a thousand reps for his chest. He's pumped to the hilt, of course there's going to be a difference ::)
he would be pumped in previous pictures as well or do you think he doesnt pump up for photo shoots and shows?
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damn troy looks full as a house!
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What do u think of John Berardi's Surge post workout drink milos??
I never had it...and I don't know what's about...but IF John is behind it - I will take it without questioning...and later ask - what was that BTW?
John is great scientist and passionate bodybuilder.
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ask milos if whoever came up with the nickname "the mind" was being sarcastic :D
If?
What do you think Bluto?
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he would be pumped in previous pictures as well or do you think he doesnt pump up for photo shoots and shows?
Not 10 different chest exercises of 15 reps in circuit :-\
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John Berardi's surge ingridients
Serving Size: 3 Level Scoops (93 g)
Servings Per Container: approximately 16
Amount Per Serving %DV*
Calories
340
Calories from Fat 25
Total Fat
2.5 g 4%*
Saturated Fat
1.5 g 8%*
Trans Fat
0 g
Cholesterol
75 mg 25%*
Total Carbohydrate
46 g 15%*
Sugars
42 g †
Protein
25 g 50%*
Calcium
180 mg 18%
Phosphorous
120 mg 12%
Magnesium
20 mg 5%
Sodium
200 mg 8%
Potassium
400 mg 11%
L-Phenylalanine
3 g †
L-Glutamine
3 g †
L-Leucine
2.25 g †
L-Valine 1.75 g †
L-Isoleucine 1.25 g †
*Percent Daily Values (% DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
† Daily value not established.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: d-glucose, whey-protein hydrolysate, maltodextrin, natural and artificial flavors, sucralose Store away from heat, light, and moisture.
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Not 10 different chest exercises of 15 reps in circuit :-\
So what, you can't pump more and more and more forever, the chest is not a balloon.
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Its first time i see the off mode of Troy. Not bad.
More than chest,his arm thickness is more impressive.
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Noticable gains overall especially in the upper and middle region of his chest ;)
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So Milos, do you recommend you're techniques for beginners or should they only be used by a more advanced guy like Troy? Troy already has a pretty good base going for him so I'm just wondering if a you feel a young guy should follow what you're preaching? Honest question.
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So Milos, do you recommend you're techniques for beginners or should they only be used by a more advanced guy like Troy? Troy already has a pretty good base going for him so I'm just wondering if a you feel a young guy should follow what you're preaching? Honest question.
Accept no limitations as a limitation...
While beginners will grow with any program - even if they do every single thing incorrectly - some (who tried) loved it...and will continue incorporating giant sets for a while...
Some would mix it with numerous other styles of training...
Some would periodically train giant sets for several weeks switching it from heavy duty to straight sets...to HIT...and some would try to do 1st workout for each body part - heavy duty, second workout - straight sets....and third workout - giant sets...
Most important thing is - ARE YOU GOING TO TRY AND MAKE YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE OR YOU ARE GOING TO LISTEN "MY SUPPORTERS" who claim how worthless my workout must be?
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That was a great episode Milos. I learnt a lot from it that I will apply to my own workouts..
Chick you did an outstanding show flying solo in Dan's absence, you can really hear thay you have come a long way in the last 80 episodes.
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Accept no limitations as a limitation...
While beginners will grow with any program - even if they do every single thing incorrectly - some (who tried) loved it...and will continue incorporating giant sets for a while...
Some would mix it with numerous other styles of training...
Some would periodically train giant sets for several weeks switching it from heavy duty to straight sets...to HIT...and some would try to do 1st workout for each body part - heavy duty, second workout - straight sets....and third workout - giant sets...
Most important thing is - ARE YOU GOING TO TRY AND MAKE YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE OR YOU ARE GOING TO LISTEN "MY SUPPORTERS" who claim how worthless my workout must be?
I've been switching it up a bit, trying the giant sets, am switching back to straight sets in August. I feel I've kept my strength or even gooten stronger, all my #'s have come up in the giant sets, so I assume when I go back to straight sets, I should be as strong or stronger. It has definately improved my endurance.
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I've been switching it up a bit, trying the giant sets, am switching back to straight sets in August. I feel I've kept my strength or even gooten stronger, all my #'s have come up in the giant sets, so I assume when I go back to straight sets, I should be as strong or stronger. It has definately improved my endurance.
Don't let Bluto see this. He'll ask you to prove it.
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Don't let Bluto see this. He'll ask you to prove it.
fuck Bluto
there I said it :D
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Milos,
I just saw the pics of Troy's chest and he looks incredible! I don't think I've ever seen him look this full...was this just from giant set training? Can you give us the routine?
Thanks
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This is strange... we're actually discussing new, meaningful bodybuilding methods on getbig.
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This is strange... we're actually discussing new, meaningful bodybuilding methods on getbig.
LOL. one can only hope this trend continues
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This is strange... we're actually discussing new, meaningful bodybuilding methods on getbig.
"who would have thunk it?"