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Title: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
ok guys im no super athletic basketball player in terms of dunking im 6feet6 225 i can only get my hand about 6 inches above the goal

now if i were to get to 205 pure ripped condition how many more inches will i be able to jump , lets say i still manage the same power out put as i did at 225

im guessing with 20 pounds less i will be able to jump 8-10inches higher?
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: The Squadfather on July 02, 2007, 03:26:26 PM
Mark Henry could dunk a basketball without running at the hoop at 6'3" and 400 pounds, i saw a clip of it.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: onlyme on July 02, 2007, 03:31:30 PM
My brother could dunk at 6'6" 330.  I could barley touch the net at 6'1"
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: The Squadfather on July 02, 2007, 03:33:22 PM
My brother could dunk at 6'6" 330.  I could barley touch the net at 6'1"
damn man your brother's a big dude, i can just barely touch the rim with the tips of my figers after running at the hoop at 6 feet even.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 03:35:31 PM
yeah those guys are amazing strong but i need a formula somehow to equate this if i lose 20 pounds of fat

Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: SquatAss on July 02, 2007, 03:42:32 PM
damn man your brother's a big dude, i can just barely touch the rim with the tips of my figers after running at the hoop at 6 feet even.

Please you get winded picking up the remote.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: jwb on July 02, 2007, 03:45:01 PM
yeah those guys are amazing strong but i need a formula somehow to equate this if i lose 20 pounds of fat


if you lose more weight you are gonna look like shit dude...

train to increase your leap and you will jump higher
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
if you lose more weight you are gonna look like shit dude...

train to increase your leap and you will jump higher

answr teh question
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: jwb on July 02, 2007, 03:49:54 PM
answr teh question
there is no answer it is impossible to equate what you want to know.

you'll lose even more strength if you starve off another 20 lbs.

plus the amount of dope you smoke won't help much either...
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: The Squadfather on July 02, 2007, 03:53:06 PM
yeah those guys are amazing strong but i need a formula somehow to equate this if i lose 20 pounds of fat


why would you want to jump any higher than that? i'm assuming you can dunk easily if you can get your hand that high.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on July 02, 2007, 03:53:55 PM
your not black enough DW...duh
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Man of Steel on July 02, 2007, 03:57:08 PM
ok guys im no super athletic basketball player in terms of dunking im 6feet6 225 i can only get my hand about 6 inches above the goal

now if i were to get to 205 pure ripped condition how many more inches will i be able to jump , lets say i still manage the same power out put as i did at 225

im guessing with 20 pounds less i will be able to jump 8-10inches higher?

These posts get any queerer and you may be able to float over the basket.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 02, 2007, 03:57:41 PM
ok guys im no super athletic basketball player in terms of dunking im 6feet6 225 i can only get my hand about 6 inches above the goal

now if i were to get to 205 pure ripped condition how many more inches will i be able to jump , lets say i still manage the same power out put as i did at 225

im guessing with 20 pounds less i will be able to jump 8-10inches higher?

  Assuming that you lose nothing other than fat, then it is very easy to calculate:

  225 lbs 100%

   20 lbs  8%

  So if the power that lifts 225 lbs will lift 8% more than 6", then obviously the improvement in jumping ability will be of 0.48". Ergo, you will be jumping 6.48" above the goal.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: The Squadfather on July 02, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
These posts get any queerer and you may be able to float over the basket.
damn these posts are getting weirder by the day, DW is a good dude but i'm wondering what he's smoking lately. ;D
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 04:01:52 PM
  Assuming that you lose nothing other than fat, then it is very easy to calculate:

  225 lbs 100%

   20 lbs  8%

  So if the power that lifts 225 lbs will lift 8% more than 6", then obviously the improvement in jumping ability will be of 0.48". Ergo, you will

so is that .08 times .06 ? that will give me inches?
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: MAXX on July 02, 2007, 04:02:04 PM
(http://www.thepunishermerchandise.com/movie/white_men_cant_jump/white_men_cant_jump.jpg)
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 04:03:53 PM
  Assuming that you lose nothing other than fat, then it is very easy to calculate:

  225 lbs 100%

   20 lbs  8%

  So if the power that lifts 225 lbs will lift 8% more than 6", then obviously the improvement in jumping ability will be of 0.48". Ergo, you will

wait so you only saying a half an inch? damn that dont seem right
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: chainsaw on July 02, 2007, 04:08:24 PM
It is all in the mind.  You have accepted failure already at 225lbs.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 02, 2007, 04:13:23 PM
so is that .08 times .06 ? that will give me inches?

  No. Here's the rationale: 20 lbs represents 8% of 225 lbs. So, if you lose 20 lbs and assume that power remains a constant, then this means that you should be able to jump 8% higher than you did at 225 lbs. Now, if the power that moves 225 lbs 6" up, then it should lift 8% of 6" more and 8% of 6" is 0.48" which is the net gain. Comprehend?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: jwb on July 02, 2007, 04:22:05 PM
  No. Here's the rationale: 20 lbs represents 8% of 225 lbs. So, if you lose 20 lbs and assume that power remains a constant, then this means that you should be able to jump 8% higher than you did at 225 lbs. Now, if the power that moves 225 lbs 6" up, then it should lift 8% of 6" more and 8% of 6" is 0.48" which is the net gain. Comprehend?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
power won't remain constant and that is the impossible part to factor in
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 02, 2007, 04:25:39 PM
power won't remain constant and that is the impossible part to factor in

  Wrong. Power remains a constant assuming that he loses pure fat. That is why in my first post I mentioned that "assuming that you lose only fat". If your muscle mass remains the same, then power output remains the same. Don't try to outsmart yourself. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 04:40:07 PM
  No. Here's the rationale: 20 lbs represents 8% of 225 lbs. So, if you lose 20 lbs and assume that power remains a constant, then this means that you should be able to jump 8% higher than you did at 225 lbs. Now, if the power that moves 225 lbs 6" up, then it should lift 8% of 6" more and 8% of 6" is 0.48" which is the net gain. Comprehend?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

wow i was thinking i would jump much higher i guess im going to have to start training my jumping more
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 04:56:51 PM
it would increase his verticle by 8% of whatever his vertical is, not by 8% of how high his hand is over the rim.

on a side note it is kind of pathetic that you can't dunk at 6'6" - I can dunk a half-sized basketball at 5'10"

if the goal is ten feet

and i get my hand 6 inches above it

then thats 126 inches total....so 126 inches ,,
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: The Squadfather on July 02, 2007, 04:57:34 PM
if the goal is ten feet

and i get my hand 6 inches above it

then thats 126 inches total....so 126 inches ,,
what would you put your vertical leap at DW?
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 02, 2007, 05:01:22 PM
what would you put your vertical leap at DW?


i have no clue its not that good though, i need to bring up my calves big time
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: 300 on July 02, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
Plyometrics.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: chainsaw on July 02, 2007, 06:01:45 PM
It is all in the mind.  Do it Successfully in you're mind, and  you're body will follow.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 02, 2007, 06:08:03 PM
shit, im 6'3" 270 and i can grab the rim.  you must have spaghetti calves.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: jwb on July 02, 2007, 06:19:31 PM
  Wrong. Power remains a constant assuming that he loses pure fat. That is why in my first post I mentioned that "assuming that you lose only fat". If your muscle mass remains the same, then power output remains the same. Don't try to outsmart yourself. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
you can assume someone can lose only pure fat but it ain't gonna be the case especially with a guy as lean as DW.

throw in gear and that changes the landscape
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Get Rowdy on July 02, 2007, 06:22:48 PM
it would increase his verticle by 8% of whatever his vertical is, not by 8% of how high his hand is over the rim.

on a side note it is kind of pathetic that you can't dunk at 6'6" - I can dunk a half-sized basketball at 5'10"

this is what i was thinking, if the total height that DW said he can jump now is 126 inches, 8% of that is 10.08 inches.  That would make a much larger difference.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: tweeter on July 02, 2007, 06:29:15 PM
DW, you need to measure the distance from the ground to the tips of your fingers with your hands held straight above your head. Then you will need to subtract this number (in inches) from 126 to get an estimate of your vertical. Once you get that number, multiply it by 1.08 to get your new vertical if you were to lose 20 pounds.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: tweeter on July 02, 2007, 06:49:50 PM
it would increase his verticle by 8% of whatever his vertical is, not by 8% of how high his hand is over the rim.

on a side note it is kind of pathetic that you can't dunk at 6'6" - I can dunk a half-sized basketball at 5'10"
I don't think he said that he couldn't dunk; if he can get his hand 6 inches above the rim I would think he could.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: tweeter on July 02, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
I doubt that 6 inches above the rim is enough to be able to dunk a regulation basketball.
Oh, I've never been close to dunking so I guess I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: CARTEL on July 02, 2007, 07:06:31 PM
I'm 6' even and I rock the rim.

If I was 6'6" I'd be in the NBA...





If I had a jumpshot  :'(
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Cold on July 03, 2007, 12:24:06 AM
there is no one accurate equation to calculate this. dont listen to suckmysmuscle he's an idiot. there are way too many factors to accurately predict this. just lose the damn weight for basketball sake and you'll jump higher. stop asking stupid questions that dont have an answer to.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Andre Nickatina on July 03, 2007, 01:46:35 AM
I'm 6'3-6'3and in high school I wanted to impress bitches by dunking cuz only abou 2 people there could. So I bought 10 pound ankle weights and did 4 sets of absolute failure bodyweight calf raises. 1 set of straight jumping from my tiptoes with them on til i couldnt jump anymore. Then took them off and did the same thing all over again with just bodyweight.

Took about 3 months to get it but it worked. Jumping was hard on my joints though. 
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: natural al on July 03, 2007, 04:26:25 AM
 
These posts get any queerer and you may be able to float over the basket.
;D lol
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: Tapeworm on July 03, 2007, 04:45:05 AM
DW, you need to measure the distance from the ground to the tips of your fingers with your hands held straight above your head. Then you will need to subtract this number (in inches) from 126 to get an estimate of your vertical. Once you get that number, multiply it by 1.08 to get your new vertical if you were to lose 20 pounds.

Yes.  If you can jump 18 inches now, your new jump (in a perfect fat-loss-only world which deosn't exist) would be 19.44 inches.  You will lose muscle too, but this will be more than offset by training specifically for your goal.

The real math question is:
If DW leaves St. Louis on the 8:44 train bound for New York traveling at 63 mph, and TA leaves Chicago at 9:24 on a New York train traveling 86 mph, which of these two guys will starve to death first?
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 03, 2007, 06:58:24 AM
DW you need to start doing jump squats with dumbells
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: nhwood on July 03, 2007, 07:11:43 AM
Common mistake that dunking comes from the calves.  Just look at most NBA players very small calves.  It mostly from the hams and gluts.  So train them hard.

I am 6'2 white and 220 at 10% and I can dunk like a black dude.  I have been able to dunk since I was a junior in high school and that was 16 years ago  :o. 

When I was a senior in high school I was in the Hoop-It-Up dunk contest and took 4th out of about 10 guys.  Most that did worse than me missed the dunks so that played a factor in why I did better.

Now I am no Vince Carter but I can just about touch my elbow on the rim.  I suffered two broken ankles and an ACL in college so my basketball dreams faded fast.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less
Post by: Marty Champions on July 03, 2007, 08:14:10 AM
Common mistake that dunking comes from the calves.  Just look at most NBA players very small calves.  It mostly from the hams and gluts.  So train them hard.

I am 6'2 white and 220 at 10% and I can dunk like a black dude.  I have been able to dunk since I was a junior in high school and that was 16 years ago  :o. 

When I was a senior in high school I was in the Hoop-It-Up dunk contest and took 4th out of about 10 guys.  Most that did worse than me missed the dunks so that played a factor in why I did better.

Now I am no Vince Carter but I can just about touch my elbow on the rim.  I suffered two broken ankles and an ACL in college so my basketball dreams faded fast.

yeah i was playing against some slim b-ballers who werent really ripped but could dunk very well
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: The Ugly on July 03, 2007, 09:09:49 AM
This shit defies math.
Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: BklynMuscle on July 03, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
Common mistake that dunking comes from the calves.  Just look at most NBA players very small calves.  It mostly from the hams and gluts.  So train them hard.

I am 6'2 white and 220 at 10% and I can dunk like a black dude.  I have been able to dunk since I was a junior in high school and that was 16 years ago  . 

When I was a senior in high school I was in the Hoop-It-Up dunk contest and took 4th out of about 10 guys.  Most that did worse than me missed the dunks so that played a factor in why I did better.

Now I am no Vince Carter but I can just about touch my elbow on the rim.  I suffered two broken ankles and an ACL in college so my basketball dreams faded fast.

BUT....


He said he neverplayed team sports!!!! ::)



Title: Re: Need help complex math equation! to equate how much ability gained with less fat
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 03, 2007, 03:06:03 PM
dont listen to suckmysmuscle he's an idiot

  Meltdown

  Ok, genius, why don't you provide us with a reason for why I'm wrong. And while you're at it, show us the best way to calculate this. Good luck, Good Will Hunting. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE