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Title: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 06, 2007, 06:40:08 AM
Flex or Levorne-----------------------they were both incredible in there prime but which one do you think should have taken the Olympia??

Lets here your thoughts and why--------------------
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???
Post by: Bluto on July 06, 2007, 06:41:06 AM
kev beat flex in arnolds
not sure the opposite happend
kev has more pro wins overall i think
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 06, 2007, 06:57:27 AM
kev beat flex in arnolds
not sure the opposite happend
kev has more pro wins overall i think
Wheeler has 2 arnold classic titles---1997 and 1998---he beat levrone in 97'

Levrone has 2 arnold classic titles---1994 and 1996----he beat wheeler in 96'

very close competitive record----------
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: michael arvilla on July 06, 2007, 07:17:30 AM
Flex...................



Kevin had great shoulders/arms yet had a "middleweights torso" also in later years his legs were a lagging bodypart

Flex had a narrow shoulder structure yet had insane (never seen before) "roundness" to his muscle bellies

Flex looked like a cartoon come to life!
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 06, 2007, 07:23:43 AM
Flex...................



Kevin had great shoulders/arms yet had a "middleweights torso" also in later years his legs were a lagging bodypart

Flex had a narrow shoulder structure yet had insane (never seen before) "roundness" to his muscle bellies

Flex looked like a cartoon come to life!
great point mike----------------

Flex's waist size also helped create that illusion--------he always looked like he weighed 20lbs heavier than he really did
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: alexxx on July 06, 2007, 08:05:08 AM
"Wait, wait, your telling me Arvilla has less knowledge about this sport then Billyguns?"
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: chester_bbb on July 06, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
Flex...................





Flex had a narrow shoulder structure yet had insane (never seen before) "roundness" to his muscle bellies


It's called "synthol".
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: ThaRealist on July 06, 2007, 08:46:00 AM
If Flex would have taken his training more seriously I think he would have at least 1 or possibly 2 Mr. O titles...
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 08:47:57 AM
I always wondered how levrone would have looked if he trained year round.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Luv_2build on July 06, 2007, 10:25:12 AM
I think Kevin had more potential.  As mentioned already he only trained part of the year.  also Flex who had an amazing BDB had a very weak rear lat spread. 
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Rich2 on July 06, 2007, 10:41:16 AM
i definitely think the term "wasted potential" is wrong for this discussion.  these two guys pretty much pushed their potential to the limit and had a reasonable amount of longevity (about a decade for Flex and 10+ years for Kev).  they both won the second most prestigious title in BBing multiple times, and came just short of winning the O.  thats not wasted potential in my book.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 06, 2007, 10:47:50 AM
wheeler had far far more potential. it wasn't even close.

levrone was a fanatastic pro bber, but he didn't have flex's sweeping lines, small joints and full muscle bellies.

there was nothing particularly dramatic about levrone (by comparison) apart from his tris (bis were flat as a pancake).
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Bluto on July 06, 2007, 10:51:02 AM
didnt both deserve to win mr olympia at one time or more

so then its more about the judges
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Parker on July 06, 2007, 10:57:57 AM
It's called "synthol".

It's called you don't know what you are talking about. He had the round muscle bellies before synthol ::)

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Wheeler has 2 arnold classic titles---1997 and 1998---he beat levrone in 97'

Levrone has 2 arnold classic titles---1994 and 1996----he beat wheeler in 96'

very close competitive record----------

Flex has 4 Arnold Classics, the 1996 Arnold was controversal because bothe Flex and Levrone looked good, but Flex had a "bloated" or bulked looked to him.I would have given the nod to Kevin as well. By 1997, Flex had regained his conditioning for the Arnold. I also believe, like Lee Haney said, that Flex shoulld have won the 1995 Arnold Classic as well.

I don't beleive neither had wasted their potential, except Flex in 1998, both Flex and Levrone were never picked by the judges to be Mr. O, so it was the judges fault, not the competitors.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 11:16:38 AM
like you would know leverone's training schedule.

hahaha "mars"

Stop whining!!!!
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: wood on July 06, 2007, 11:24:19 AM
this is impressive
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Luv_2build on July 06, 2007, 12:03:07 PM
thats a very impressive pic.  what year/show was that from?
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 12:06:36 PM
I think Kenneth was the only one who get away with synthol usage.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: jaejonna on July 06, 2007, 12:19:51 PM
Kevin is a movie star though... ::)
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: genrommel74 on July 06, 2007, 12:34:16 PM
I think that they both didnt take there training as seriously as they should have and if either had taken there training more serious both could have a olympia statue. But i think kevin had more wasted potential
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
In that video of flex he was really training like a wuss. what genetics drugs nubain and synthol can do.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: ThaRealist on July 06, 2007, 12:42:06 PM
In that video of flex he was really training like a wuss. what genetics drugs nubain and synthol can do.

Many other ifbb pros have stated that Flex had unreal genetics, but his training was far under par...I know a few guys in the gyms around where I live that just throw around a few light weights and they have amazing physiques...Genetics can be very gracious to some individuals....
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 12:45:32 PM
Stupid. You think pros show you the real stuff in their training videos.

You are those who probably think pornstars fuck as they do in porn videos.

Epic Retardedness.


Hope this helps.

 ???
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 12:52:53 PM
I didn't even talked whether pros show their stuff in the videos, i only said that flex trains like a wuss in these video's. wtf is your point?
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: ThaRealist on July 06, 2007, 12:54:11 PM
HOw fkin stupid can a person get.

I find it really interesting that you contiplate how pornstars fuck in their "free time" and that you make a direct analogy with bodybuilders working out when not being filmed....Hhmmm makes me wonder why you would make that analogy lol.... :-\
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 12:58:11 PM
Cos I'm smart; which is very unlike you.

You are a skinny little geek.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: americanbulldog on July 06, 2007, 01:04:50 PM
IF Flex could have replicated his 1993 Arnold condititon, he would have been unbeatable. 
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Dorian01 on July 06, 2007, 01:25:26 PM
Logic dictates that a pro would train as hard as they know how for a video. This is the training day that will be remembered for years. Yet still pros train like women in them. You can only assume they train even worse when a camera isn't on them. Whether or not they'd hide some kind of magic tricks from the customer isn't that important.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: B R on July 06, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
Better than a tiny prick who thinks that pornstars fuck as they do in their videos.
M E L T D O W N
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: ThaRealist on July 06, 2007, 01:39:13 PM
Better than a tiny prick who thinks that pornstars fuck as they do in their videos.

Seeing as it was you that in fact made the analogy between bodybuilders and pornstars your statement makes completely no sense.... ::)
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 06, 2007, 01:40:28 PM
Haha exactly, what a fruitcake.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: ThaRealist on July 06, 2007, 01:52:27 PM
Logic dictates that a pornstar would fuck as hard as they know how for a video. This is the fucking day that will be remembered for years.


HOPE THIS HELPS ,SHITHEAD.

Yes this is a day that will be remembered for about 10 minutes...Seeing as how you have managed to meltdown, make a total ass of yourself and you just keep reverifying how much of a dipshit you really are lol...You remind me of brown-boy shadow...LoL
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Earl1972 on July 06, 2007, 02:49:22 PM
how exactly did either of them waste their potential ???

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Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 06, 2007, 02:54:45 PM
i agree, levrone took so much time off of training, and competed nonstop.  he could have taken a break from competing to really pack on more mass.  You guys buy the whole line about flex being myostatin deficient or whatever he supposedly had?  He definitely had the superior genetics, aesthetic muscle structure.

Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: JasonH on July 06, 2007, 02:59:03 PM
Levrone v Flex is probably closer to call than Ronnie v Yates - they both could have been so much better if they'd have given it their all year round.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Dballn247 on July 06, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
Wheeler went until his body gave out so I would'nt say he wasted his potential....he hit his limit.  Kevin retired for other reasons.  I guess Levrone is the winner.  Both were big dudes....all the way big dudes.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Master Blaster on July 06, 2007, 04:05:47 PM
If you count kidneys then Levrone is the true champ!
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: pumpster on July 06, 2007, 04:08:16 PM
i definitely think the term "wasted potential" is wrong for this discussion.  these two guys pretty much pushed their potential to the limit and had a reasonable amount of longevity (about a decade for Flex and 10+ years for Kev).  they both won the second most prestigious title in BBing multiple times, and came just short of winning the O.  thats not wasted potential in my book.

Agreed; they did what they could in the face of good competition AND some questionable contest politics.

Wheeler along with Coleman are the best BB of the last few decades, better than Haney, Yates, Levrone, etc. That he never won speaks volumes for contest hijinks.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Bear on July 06, 2007, 04:34:45 PM
Flex or Levorne-----------------------they were both incredible in there prime but which one do you think should have taken the Olympia??

Lets here your thoughts and why--------------------

I fail to see how being judged, rightly or wrongly, as the second best in the whole world at several points in your carreer equates to 'wasted potential'?!?!?!?!? Please rephrase this thread's title then perform the crippler cross-face on yourself until you die.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 06, 2007, 07:55:53 PM
I fail to see how being judged, rightly or wrongly, as the second best in the whole world at several points in your carreer equates to 'wasted potential'?!?!?!?!? Please rephrase this thread's title then perform the crippler cross-face on yourself until you die.

Ok im not argueing that they wasted all of their potential----the title of the thread is which one could have gone farther had they dedicated themselves more to their career

Flex was notorious on cheating on his diet amongst other things (ninja attacks etc...)and Levorne only trained a part of teh year

Im not argueing that they were not BBIng legends or great as many of you are trying to implicate me as saying-------I asking which one do you think could have gone farther if he worked harder-----------

ohh and I did appreciate the cripper-cross face comment ;)
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Bodies on July 07, 2007, 01:32:37 AM
I think Kenneth was the only one who get away with synthol usage.

what are you talking about - Cutler looks to be loaded w/the stuff...
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Mars on July 07, 2007, 01:52:53 AM
what are you talking about - Cutler looks to be loaded w/the stuff...

Yes you're probably right.
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: TheDoctor on July 07, 2007, 02:22:22 AM
I thought Flex won in 99MrO but it turned out to be a glute hamstring contest instead, no wonder he was pissed.
Kevin in 2002 i would venture to say won the 2002 MrO amazing upperbody, legs cost him even though i thought he won.
Both were mutants, Both lived to there potential
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Euro-monster on July 07, 2007, 05:11:09 AM
Pornstars don't fuck like they do in their movies?... :-\

What is this world coming to... ::)
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 07, 2007, 07:10:01 AM
Unlike you, they only fuck humans in real lives.

HOPE THIS HELPS.
futile attempt in this thread to make a name for your gimmick :-\
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: genrommel74 on July 07, 2007, 08:03:02 PM
they were both great bbs, but just couldnt get that mr. o
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: DIVISION on July 07, 2007, 08:05:15 PM
Flex or Levorne-----------------------they were both incredible in there prime but which one do you think should have taken the Olympia??

Lets here your thoughts and why--------------------

Flex wasted what potential he did have.....

He should have won a few O's.



DIV
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: pobrecito on July 07, 2007, 08:19:53 PM
Levrone was robbed in 02. Coleman was small and looked like shit

(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/olympia2002/1mro22.jpg)
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 07, 2007, 11:14:18 PM
  Most wasted potentials:

  Dennis Newman: Moron with ginormous potential who took GH at the age of 22 and got leukemia as a consequence.

  Chris Cormier: Guy with perfect musco-skeltal structure who never accomplished crap due to his love of coke&hos.

  Flex Wheeler: Should have come to the 1998 Olympia in his 1993 Ironman form and won; was a lazy bastard during his preparation and thus never won the Sandow.

  Paul Dillet: Other lazy bastard with freakish genetics who never won due to his lack of muscle thickness in the back and chest because he refused to due compound barbell lifts, relying mostly on machines and cables for his workout.

  Jean-Pierre Fux: Gigantic man with no lacking bodypart who failed to win top shows because he never was able to tame his midsection.

  And there you have it folks...

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: DIVISION on July 07, 2007, 11:29:09 PM
Dennis Newman: Moron with ginormous potential who took GH at the age of 22 and got leukemia as a consequence.

Sucknugg,

You sure he contracted leukemia from GH usage at a young age?

Speak.




DIV
Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: Joey Tito on July 07, 2007, 11:37:02 PM
Sucknugg,

You sure he contracted leukemia from GH usage at a young age?

Speak.




DIV

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bro

DP

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Title: Re: WHo had More wasted Potential???---(Pics Included)
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 08, 2007, 01:13:38 AM
Sucknugg,

You sure he contracted leukemia from GH usage at a young age?

Speak.




DIV

  Yes, you drug addicted moron. Believe it or not, drugs do have side effects, despite your whole "the risks of steroids and other anabolic drugs are exaggerated and easily controllable" mentality. GH is a potent cell meiosis stimulator, contrary to steroid, which only stimulate specific DNA sequences that control protein synthesis. This means that it stimulates all cells to divide, which is one of the pathologies associated with both cancer and leukemia

SUCKMYMUSCLE