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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marty Champions on July 07, 2007, 05:21:44 AM
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metabolism
yet you never hear any of these bodybuilding gurus even bring it up even ONCE! they might say "oh yeah u need good fats" ect
it amazes me how far behind everyone is. i feel like i know so much and im not even getting paid and not in the industry
they seem to promote all carbs and protien, i can see why its easy to sell and easy to make anyone can buy sugar and protien in mass quanties and cheap to make
so many i know have done a low fat diet and always look flat
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Did your Mother drink heavily during pregnancy?
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I have heard of some natural bodybuilders advocating a high fat diet i will have to go through a pile of magazines to find there names, most bodybuilders should be taking a handfull of omega 3 fish oil tablets for heathier hearts.
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metabolism
yet you never hear any of these bodybuilding gurus even bring it up even ONCE! they might say "oh yeah u need good fats" ect
it amazes me how far behind everyone is. i feel like i know so much and im not even getting paid and not in the industry
they seem to promote all carbs and protien, i can see why its easy to sell and easy to make anyone can buy sugar and protien in mass quanties and cheap to make
so many i know have done a low fat diet and always look flat
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the whole intellectual, holier-than-thou, knowledge snob schtick doesn't work for you. Adonis barely gets away with it, his only saving grace is that you can actually tell he's intelligent although nothing close a Phd in human biology or chemistry. You on the other hand have a literacy level of a 6th grader.
dont you notice how everybody on Getbig is tuning you out.
I think you do have some interesting and innovative approachs to training but before you start spouting out nutritional advice and facts about specific effects of certain nutrients on the body, I think you should at least take a rudimentry science class.
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Did your Mother drink heavily during pregnancy?
More like Meth!!!!!
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DW, what do you mean by "intramuscular fats"?
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DW, what do you mean by "intramuscular fats"?
a better way to rephrase the question would be:
DW, do you know what intramuscular fats are?
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Waddy, how do you think your role in the upcoming Warrior Princess film will impact your abilities to bang more poonanny?
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Waddy, how do you think your role in the upcoming Warrior Princess film will impact your abilities to bang more poonanny?
how nice, waddy's got himself a gimmick. :D
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No gimmick Beast
how nice, waddy's got himself a gimmick. :D
, just a disciple.
For years I tried going after hoes that were my own age because I found them more intellectual and mature. After viewing waddy's posts behind the scenes for awhile, I found that by chasing younger women it is much easier to score ass. I never thought in my wildest dreams that 18 year olds were into anal and what not, but waddy opened me up to a world of possibilities. For that, I will always be thankful.
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DW, what do you mean by "intramuscular fats"?
intramuscular fats are fat storage inside the muscle.
part of these fats are the many cell membranes in out body wich power our metabolism
these two things are fats that power our immune system and give us strength we would be weak without fats
glucose/fats have to be in optimal balance
what is optimal balance, well i dont know but i know you need a moderate amount of fat to alot especially if you want to grow and lose fat
you can lose fat with out optimal balance in the body off of pure caloric restriction and can either look pumped or flat in the process or be strong or weak depending upon glucose but mainly fat stores in the muscles and in the body in general
if you have been deprived of fats along time then you are comprimising your immune system(made from fats) and other energy reserves
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our immune system depends on enough fat ESPECIALLY for someone who trains there ass off
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What, I ask you, does this have to do with aliens harvesting our electricity during thunderstorms? ???
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A man of 75 kg has muscular stores of (on average) 400 g of glycogen (about 1600 Kcal) and 300 g of triglycerides (corresponding to 2700 Kcal)
this should tell you that we need more fat
but in the big picture u need to be in a deficit to lose but this is the optimal balance
2 to one
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Waddy, what foods contain Intramuscular Triglicerides?? Are you sure a diet containing moderate to high levels of fat would be beneficial to someone that is not chemically enhanced?
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Pimp Minister Pete Nice
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Waddy, what foods contain Intramuscular Triglicerides?? Are you sure a diet containing moderate to high levels of fat would be beneficial to someone that is not chemically enhanced?
the fat we eat goes straight to intramuscular triglicerides
this doesnt mean bulk up
means you gotta do your cardio and your weightling and dont waste food or overeat, i find i do best with eating my main meal waffles with butter, cheescake, pizza, icecream all before my workout and nothing after
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Sure fat is a key element in metabolism as each one of the glycerol (of the triacyglycerol molecule) must be broken down into a fatty acid which can then pass through the cell membrane (via the carnitine shuttle). Lipolysis occurs in the mitochondria. The fatty acids produce carbon atoms which in turn form acetly-CoA. Acetyl-coA will then be used in the kreb cycle (if there are an abundance of carbs present) or they will be used in the production of ketones (thus the term ketogenic). During the above process high energy electrons are transported to the cell membrane where they are utilized for further energy production. Interestingly enough the electron transport chain which serves in ATP production is found in the inner, outer, and INTRA membrane of the mitochondria.
Is this what you were going for?
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Pimp Minister Pete Nice
"She said she's pure from her legs to her thighs and we should talk over some chinese and Fries"...Go Cardinals
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the fat we eat goes straight to intramuscular triglicerides
this doesnt mean bulk up
means you gotta do your cardio and your weightling and dont waste food or overeat, i find i do best with eating my main meal waffles with butter, cheescake, pizza, icecream all before my workout and nothing after
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Don't you worry about insulin spikes though? If I ate those kinds of foods I would feel sluggish, and probably have a poor workout. But, you are "teh masta"
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the fat we eat goes straight to intramuscular triglicerides
this doesnt mean bulk up
means you gotta do your cardio and your weightling and dont waste food or overeat, i find i do best with eating my main meal waffles with butter, cheescake, pizza, icecream all before my workout and nothing after
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Don't you worry about insulin spikes though? If I ate those kinds of foods I would feel sluggish, and probably have a poor workout. But, you are "teh masta"
you wont get insulin spikes (well not to a major degree) with lots of fats with the meal because fats slow down stomach or gastric emptying . so its all good
people are used to eating high carb low fat and feel sluggish as hell because its too much sugar digesting too fast. we need fat to solve this problem
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Just ANOTHER thread to show how much of an I-D-I-O-T you really are Waddy..... ::)
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Just ANOTHER thread to show how much of an I-D-I-O-T you really are Waddy..... ::)
fat is like the tunnels to send vitamins and nutrients in our muscles
cut apart any lean steak there is always streaks of fat all up in it and the juices are full of fat how bout i cut you open and prove this fact :0
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Exercise does more than keep one fit and lean: it can also help treat Type II diabetes. In a ScienceDaily news report, University of Michigan researchers discovered that even one session of aerobic exercise increases muscle fat uptake and storage, which in turn increases insulin sensitivity and resulting glucose clearance.
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THIS IS EVEN MORE BREAKTHROUGH yet you dont hear it the media and supplement companies want to kill you on carbs and protien......IMTG stands for INTRAMUSCULAR TRIGLICERIDES
nterestingly, high IMTG is also found in individuals who exercise regularly and who have high insulin sensitivity. Due on this discrepancy, Jeffrey Horowitz and Simon Schenk tested their hypothesis that exercise itself actually increases insulin sensitivity. The researchers took eight lean female subjects and injected a daily amount of fat into their bloodstream. The subjects exercised one day and remained inactive the next. This procedure was performed twice. What Horowitz and Schenk discovered is that, after even one day of exercise, the subjects had increased insulin sensitivity of about 25% compared to the day they did not exercise. Furthermore, more fatty acids had become stored as IMTG, just as they are in obese individuals.
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maybe we can have an intellegent conversation instead of the monster meltdowns i have so much to share for i am the king of natural bodybuilding
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A man of 75 kg has muscular stores of (on average) 400 g of glycogen (about 1600 Kcal) and 300 g of triglycerides (corresponding to 2700 Kcal)
this should tell you that we need more fat
but in the big picture u need to be in a deficit to lose but this is the optimal balance
2 to one
Bro, translater that into the amerian metrtic system..... Otherwise you are talkin jibberish!
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Waddy, how similar is what you are explaining to a ketogenic diet, or the diet that Dave "Jumbo" Palumbo preaches about?
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Bro, translater that into the amerian metrtic system..... Otherwise you are talkin jibberish!
its a clear fact that you are stupid as hell.
surely you can comprhend
400 g of glycogen (about 1600 Kcal) and 300 g of triglycerides (corresponding to 2700 Kcal
this is the going rate of storage for like 165 pound man, it makes perfect sense to have a high fat diet
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Waddy, how similar is what you are explaining to a ketogenic diet, or the diet that Dave "Jumbo" Palumbo preaches about?
this diet has less protien but more fat than a ketogenic diet but only slightly more carbs than a keto diet
i fry everything in butter, apples cinnamon and butter
onions and butter is good too
and of course whole eggs with cheese maybe 4 eggs a day is enough to fill me up any more ill get sick
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this diet has less protien but more fat than a ketogenic diet but only slightly more carbs than a keto diet
i fry everything in butter, apples cinnamon and butter
onions and butter is good too
and of course whole eggs with cheese maybe 4 eggs a day is enough to fill me up any more ill get sick
So, are you still on a restricted calorie diet? How many meals do you eat a day if only 4 eggs fill you up?
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THIS IS EVEN MORE BREAKTHROUGH yet you dont hear it the media and supplement companies want to kill you on carbs and protien......IMTG stands for INTRAMUSCULAR TRIGLICERIDES
nterestingly, high IMTG is also found in individuals who exercise regularly and who have high insulin sensitivity. Due on this discrepancy, Jeffrey Horowitz and Simon Schenk tested their hypothesis that exercise itself actually increases insulin sensitivity. The researchers took eight lean female subjects and injected a daily amount of fat into their bloodstream. The subjects exercised one day and remained inactive the next. This procedure was performed twice. What Horowitz and Schenk discovered is that, after even one day of exercise, the subjects had increased insulin sensitivity of about 25% compared to the day they did not exercise. Furthermore, more fatty acids had become stored as IMTG, just as they are in obese individuals.
It might be a breakthrough for you, but to the people (like me) who make their living knowing this, it's nothing new, as a matter of fact, it's pretty laymen and yes Waddy....even in the bodybuilding world, sorry to burst your delutional bubble :-\!
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maybe we can have an intellegent conversation instead of the monster meltdowns i have so much to share for i am the king of natural bodybuilding
You keep thinking this, Waddy.
The problem with the above situation, is that you are the one that a intelligent and coherent conversation cannot be had.
How about the first thread we conversed in- the "insulin burns fat" debate. You seem to think (or have you finally conceded?) that you can burn fat when insulin is present in the blood. Numerous people tried to reveal to you, in an intelligent manner, that the situation is not possible.
And the underlying problem with any of your threads- you're just trying to justify and rationalize the use of mind altering substances.
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DW you didn't answer pete. How similar to Palumbo's diet are you advocating? Please be more specific
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DW you didn't answer pete. How similar to Palumbo's diet are you advocating? Please be more specific
could be range without knowing his diet
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You keep thinking this, Waddy.
The problem with the above situation, is that you are the one that a intelligent and coherent conversation cannot be had.
How about the first thread we conversed in- the "insulin burns fat" debate. You seem to think (or have you finally conceded?) that you can burn fat when insulin is present in the blood. Numerous people tried to reveal to you, in an intelligent manner, that the situation is not possible.
And the underlying problem with any of your threads- you're just trying to justify and rationalize the use of mind altering substances.
i never pay much attention to questions i feel are jousted in a harsh manner. so you may get skrewy answers my friend
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metabolism
yet you never hear any of these bodybuilding gurus even bring it up even ONCE! they might say "oh yeah u need good fats" ect
it amazes me how far behind everyone is. i feel like i know so much and im not even getting paid and not in the industry
they seem to promote all carbs and protien, i can see why its easy to sell and easy to make anyone can buy sugar and protien in mass quanties and cheap to make
so many i know have done a low fat diet and always look flat
If you're going to be a bodybuilder kids, always spell protein with the e before the i.
Just like training chest before triceps.
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i never pay much attention to questions i feel are jousted in a harsh manner. so you may get skrewy answers my friend
Well, at least with a wall, I can have a more intelligent discourse than with you. :-\
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DW is there a preference as to which fats you should consume more of i.e. omega 3, 6, or 9?