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Title: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 08:31:40 AM
Dumbells floor presses look akward, and I doubt anybody could go as heavy as if they were on a bench. Here's Dave tate crushing a pair of dumbells. But I see lots of shoulder pain in the long run
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 08:32:36 AM
nothing is necessary you plank
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 08:33:47 AM
nothing is necessary you plank


lol...I bet you've never try this in your life, mate
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: JasonH on July 09, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
Monster half reps.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 08:35:50 AM
brutal training for a 315 bench.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 09, 2007, 08:36:29 AM
brutal training for a 315 bench.
hahahah, epic pair of 85's.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 08:36:52 AM

lol...I bet you've never try this in your life, mate

I actually did once and I found it to be silly.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 08:37:48 AM
hahahah, epic pair of 85's.
it's as lame as the dorks that do push ups at the gym ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Dballn247 on July 09, 2007, 08:40:38 AM
it's as lame as the dorks that do push ups at the gym ::)

Those clowns rank up there with the shadow boxers.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 08:41:07 AM
I don't think it's half rep. the range of motion is very limited. that's why the floor press is hard, but I don't know what anybody would benefit from it
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 08:43:05 AM
well, if it comes from the great Dave tate, it must be useful, right? ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 08:45:46 AM
I don't think it's half rep. the range of motion is very limited. that's why the floor press is hard, but I don't know what anybody would benefit from it
when i use to powerlift i would do them with a bb on the floor with chains.

one of the gayest things iv'e done.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 09, 2007, 08:53:13 AM
dave tate has benched over 600lbs.

floor presses are actually better for your shoulders in that they are a fail safe way to reduce the rom from going into rotator wear and tear.

i'd say dave is using them for (p/lifting) bench assist and the emphasis would be on his tris as opposed to pecs due to the fact that comp benching has more to do with triceps than pecs.

Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The Squadfather on July 09, 2007, 08:55:43 AM
hahahaha, you tell 'em "beast".
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 09, 2007, 08:57:09 AM
hahahaha, you tell 'em "beast".

i do my best. :D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 09:03:59 AM
dave tate has benched over 600lbs.

floor presses are actually better for your shoulders in that they are a fail safe way to reduce the rom from going into rotator wear and tear.

i'd say dave is using them for (p/lifting) bench assist and the emphasis would be on his tris as opposed to pecs due to the fact that comp benching has more to do with triceps than pecs.






the floor press with a barbell is probably more efficient
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigmc on July 09, 2007, 09:07:35 AM
monster lumberjack shirt
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: TheDoctor on July 09, 2007, 09:08:22 AM
Some one stole my bench off my patio and was forced to do this exercise on the floor, could not get the stretch in my pecs, i renewed my gym membership the next week.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigmc on July 09, 2007, 09:10:40 AM
Some one stole my bench off my patio and was forced to do this exercise on the floor, could not get the stretch in my pecs, i renewed my gym membership the next week.

you could have bought another bench  ???
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 09, 2007, 09:12:45 AM



the floor press with a barbell is probably more efficient

yes it would seem so. maybe he figures on working the stabilizers more. dunno. :-\

Some one stole my bench off my patio and was forced to do this exercise on the floor, could not get the stretch in my pecs, i renewed my gym membership the next week.

i'm pretty sure tate is not using them to work his pecs, but props for not letting stolen equipment stop you.

Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 09:14:36 AM
Some one stole my bench off my patio and was forced to do this exercise on the floor, could not get the stretch in my pecs, i renewed my gym membership the next week.

The only people who keep weight lifting equipment outside are meth cooks
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: No Patience on July 09, 2007, 09:15:21 AM
unless you are maybe at home with no bench i do not see any point except trying to look strong
by doing partial reps
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Bluto on July 09, 2007, 09:16:43 AM
what if there's a lot of dust on the floor you could set you up for sickness
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 09:18:18 AM
shit, I'm about to setup a bench and a few dumbells in my backyard this summer, the only thing is When it rains, it will ruin my stuffs. Nevertheless, working out outside....there is none like it
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 09:19:37 AM
Dumbells floor presses look akward, and I doubt anybody could go as heavy as if they were on a bench. Here's Dave tate crushing a pair of dumbells. But I see lots of shoulder pain in the long run

If you want to push through a sticking point they're great, I use them (mostly BB) with some of my athletes for explosive moves and using them with a BB helps increase your bench.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Bluto on July 09, 2007, 09:21:37 AM
shit, I'm about to setup a bench and a few dumbells in my backyard this summer, the only thing is When it rains, it will ruin my stuffs. Nevertheless, working out outside....there is none like it

you should work out in the rain thats hardcore!
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: TheDoctor on July 09, 2007, 09:23:18 AM
you could have bought another bench  ???
Nah the bench i had was a piece of shit much prefer Hammerstrength Benchpress.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BM OUT on July 09, 2007, 09:28:35 AM
Ha,ha,ha, guys ripping Dave Tate on here.Dave is stronger the EVERYONE who posts here,and probably has a better build then 90% of the rest of you.The guy has one of the most successful websites and business' in strength sports.Of course you guys know better and are much stronger.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 09:35:27 AM
you should work out in the rain thats hardcore!



I will try that for sure.  I just got the bench alone for $387. I'm gonna look for a barbell and a couple 45s for now. I'm just gonna have to bring that shit inside when winter arrives
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 09:40:30 AM
Ha,ha,ha, guys ripping Dave Tate on here.Dave is stronger the EVERYONE who posts here,and probably has a better build then 90% of the rest of you.The guy has one of the most successful websites and business' in strength sports.Of course you guys know better and are much stronger.



well, it would be foolish for anybody on here to ripoff Dave. I read his articles often and He's a reliable source. Elitefitness is still one of my favorite site
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
Ha,ha,ha, guys ripping Dave Tate on here.Dave is stronger the EVERYONE who posts here,and probably has a better build then 90% of the rest of you.The guy has one of the most successful websites and business' in strength sports.Of course you guys know better and are much stronger.
relax big guy. it's called joking around ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 09:46:23 AM
Dave would give us that sign, guys
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 09:49:32 AM
here's Dave Crushing 600+ bench...grrrr..
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Rami on July 09, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
Not very good range of motion or stretch. I don't think it helps the right kind of breathing and ribcage expansion either.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 10:15:48 AM
Ha,ha,ha, guys ripping Dave Tate on here.Dave is stronger the EVERYONE who posts here,and probably has a better build then 90% of the rest of you.The guy has one of the most successful websites and business' in strength sports.Of course you guys know better and are much stronger.

fuck him dude. I'd smack him in the mouth if he even looked near me. I'd wipe my dick out and show it to his wife and say "look at what you could be snacking on cow!" and she'd blow me to cause this "dave" guy would be worried about getting to the gym to play grab ass with all the other hotdog necked, no balls, ammonia sniffers he calls friends
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Mike on July 09, 2007, 10:19:27 AM
If you want to push through a sticking point they're great, I use them (mostly BB) with some of my athletes for explosive moves and using them with a BB helps increase your bench.

Exactly.  I think everyone who's bitching should try them for 6 weeks and see what happens. 
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 10:25:36 AM
fuck him dude. I'd smack him in the mouth if he even looked near me. I'd wipe my dick out and show it to his wife and say "look at what you could be snacking on cow!" and she'd blow me to cause this "dave" guy would be worried about getting to the gym to play grab ass with all the other hotdog necked, no balls, ammonia sniffers he calls friends



damn, You got balls, Broadstreet. have you seen what dave looks like?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 10:30:23 AM


damn, You got balls, Broadstreet. have you seen what dave looks like?

Bro, if I lived in fear of every goatee'd, double chinned, flannel wearing, coffee coolatta drinking meathead I run into I'd never leave the house. ATTITUDE CHECK!
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
Bro, if I lived in fear of every goatee'd, double chinned, flannel wearing, coffee coolatta drinking meathead I run into I'd never leave the house. ATTITUDE CHECK!



lol...I like your attitude. don't these" goatee'd, double chinned, flannel wearing, coffee coolatta drinking meathead" guys look intimidating. I have yet to find out how well they would do in a street fight. ;)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 09, 2007, 10:46:09 AM


lol...I like your attitude. don't these" goatee'd, double chinned, flannel wearing, coffee coolatta drinking meathead" guys look intimidating. I have yet to find out how well they would do in a street fight. ;)

there is a very quick way to find out. ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 10:50:07 AM
there is a very quick way to find out. ;)

 ;D



I would challenge dave in a fight. I would just have to concealed one of my weapon ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: gordiano on July 09, 2007, 12:20:17 PM
If you want to push through a sticking point they're great, I use them (mostly BB) with some of my athletes for explosive moves and using them with a BB helps increase your bench.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: j3di3 on July 09, 2007, 01:22:16 PM
this is what dave used to look
(http://www.johnberardi.com/images/dave12.png)

this is what he looks like after some cutting
(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/before-after.jpg)

(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/dave-bathroom.jpg)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 01:24:31 PM
That's Blanch Warden
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: No Patience on July 09, 2007, 01:28:53 PM


lol...I like your attitude. don't these" goatee'd, double chinned, flannel wearing, coffee coolatta drinking meathead" guys look intimidating. I have yet to find out how well they would do in a street fight. ;)

years back i saw a dude just like this that ran into a guy i know while walking by and turned around and said the classic line "boy, you better watch were i'm walkin".....so they both face each other and start moving into one another....the guy i know gave this big fucker a quick throat chop and he backed the fuck up choking like a baby....funny ass shit
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 01:32:55 PM
this is what dave used to look
(http://www.johnberardi.com/images/dave12.png)

this is what he looks like after some cutting
(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/before-after.jpg)

(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/dave-bathroom.jpg)





oh damn, I've never seen those pics of him before. I guess Dave is leaning toward the bodybuilding arena?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 01:35:01 PM
years back i saw a dude just like this that ran into a guy i know while walking by and turned around and said the classic line "boy, you better watch were i'm walkin".....so they both face each other and start moving into one another....the guy i know gave this big fucker a quick throat chop and he backed the fuck up choking like a baby....funny ass shit



well, I guess there are lots of big guys outthere who would get their asses kicked for sure ;)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 09, 2007, 01:36:55 PM




oh damn, I've never seen those pics of him before. I guess Dave is leaning toward the bodybuilding arena?




Dave have suffered a couple of pec tears over the years. I wonder how the fcuk he recovers from those injuries
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 01:47:19 PM
this is what dave used to look
(http://www.johnberardi.com/images/dave12.png)

this is what he looks like after some cutting
(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/before-after.jpg)

(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/dave-bathroom.jpg)

Ohh Shit did some just get shut the FUCK down or what!!!!! Hahaha were not all Fat Asses :)

Dave is a BAD ASS anyone who dont believe that is SIMPLE!!! He is stronger then most of you and in better SHAPE then most of you. You should look before you jump :)

Wolfy!!!  Ohhh and I'm still Fat and Happy
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 01:49:19 PM
Ohh and as for the technique it is VERY VERY helpful in building top end strength and tricep power. I myself prefer Barbell floor presses but I have done dumbbell as well.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 01:51:21 PM
hahahaha! if he got off the juice and 200 gram protein shakes, he would weigh 160lbs ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
So would all the pro bodybuilders also  ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
So would all the pro bodybuilders also  ;D
no doubt! bb's are worst then power lifters, all show no go.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 09, 2007, 01:54:56 PM
He's better than most here, despite being ugly as shit.

Looks like Arvilla with better genetics.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 09, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
Hey Wolfy, if you fall asleep on a crate of Diet Cherry Coke do you even notice you blubberous toolbox?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
here's Dave Crushing 600+ bench...grrrr..

brutal legs lacking all muscle tone, tiny forearms, and two gorillas lifting the weight for "him" ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: affy on July 09, 2007, 01:59:41 PM
brutal legs lacking all muscle tone, tiny forearms, and two gorillas lifting the weight for "him" ::)

have you seen his lean pics

his legs and forearms are actually his best part.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
Ohh Shit did some just get shut the FUCK down or what!!!!! Hahaha were not all Fat Asses :)

Dave is a BAD ASS anyone who dont believe that is SIMPLE!!! He is stronger then most of you and in better SHAPE then most of you. You should look before you jump :)

Wolfy!!!  Ohhh and I'm still Fat and Happy

Relax, Mikey.  This fruitcake Dave Tate is nothing but ALL DRUGS.  Take the anabolics away and this cum dumpster would shrink to normal size.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 02:01:35 PM
have you seen his lean pics

his legs and forearms are actually his best part.

If I cycled roids my ENTIRE lifting life, I would expect similar size. ;)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
Hey Wolfy, if you fall asleep on a crate of Diet Cherry Coke do you even notice you blubberous toolbox?

BSB Sorry I'm above and beyond internet arguing with worthless tools like you that have never accomplished shit other then some good name calling online. So take your Crate of Diet Coke and shove it. You are worthless and mean nothing to me!!! Have a Nice Day :)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 02:05:39 PM
yes cause if you're not big and strong you must be a loser ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on July 09, 2007, 02:08:42 PM
Those of dumbell presses on a ball...which is worse?

I pick the ball.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: MisterMagoo on July 09, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
BSB Sorry I'm above and beyond internet arguing with worthless tools like you that have never accomplished shit other then some good name calling online. So take your Crate of Diet Coke and shove it. You are worthless and mean nothing to me!!! Have a Nice Day :)

what are you weighing these days, man? down in the 308s yet?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 02:12:55 PM
BSB Sorry I'm above and beyond internet arguing with worthless tools like you that have never accomplished shit other then some good name calling online. So take your Crate of Diet Coke and shove it. You are worthless and mean nothing to me!!! Have a Nice Day :)

meltdown

Lay off the roids for a while Mike, they're obviously messing up your temperament
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 02:16:01 PM
Relax, Mikey.  This fruitcake Dave Tate is nothing but ALL DRUGS.  Take the anabolics away and this cum dumpster would shrink to normal size.

Hahaha....message board tough guy, Tate would do nothing less than roll you up like a basketball and shoot three pointers all day long. LOL "fruitcake"....hahah too much!!
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 02:18:03 PM
I dont have meltdowns :) I'm too nice of a guy for that :) Just stating the facts to some calling me fat, Geesh I see myself in the mirror every day I dont need some tool online telling what is obvious.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 09, 2007, 02:18:58 PM
"tate" hahahahaha! owned! ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 02:19:59 PM
what are you weighing these days, man? down in the 308s yet?

No I'm sitting at 325-330. I'm strong right here and gonna compete this weekend at 330. I'm gonna cut some more to 275 after the contest.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: The Coach on July 09, 2007, 02:21:52 PM
I dont have meltdowns :) I'm too nice of a guy for that :) Just stating the facts to some calling me fat, Geesh I see myself in the mirror every day I dont need some tool online telling what is obvious.

Shit........I forgot to give you your program, is tonight ok?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on July 09, 2007, 02:24:29 PM
No I'm sitting at 325-330. I'm strong right here and gonna compete this weekend at 330. I'm gonna cut some more to 275 after the contest.


Do you find it extremely hard to lose weight or are you reaping the benefits now?

ta ta
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 02:24:57 PM
Shit........I forgot to give you your program, is tonight ok?

Program for what?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 02:30:08 PM

Do you find it extremely hard to lose weight or are you reaping the benefits now?

ta ta

No losing weight is easy, you find a diet that works and stick to it. I dropped 90 pounds total so far, and plan on dropping about another 50.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 02:33:50 PM
No losing weight is easy, you find a diet that works and stick to it. I dropped 90 pounds total so far, and plan on dropping about another 50.

Serious question: How much do you think the anabolics have contributed to your weight loss?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 03:00:45 PM
None, cause I aint used anything for losing weight. But hardwork on Cardio and a pretty clean diet have worked wonders.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 03:11:35 PM
None, cause I aint used anything for losing weight. But hardwork on Cardio and a pretty clean diet have worked wonders.

Good stuff.  You're not using roids now?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 09, 2007, 03:26:15 PM
Steroids are for Pro Baseball players not Fat powerlifters :)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 09, 2007, 03:40:16 PM
Steroids are for Pro Baseball players not Fat powerlifters :)

So, you have achieved an 800+ lb bench naturally?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BM OUT on July 10, 2007, 03:56:58 AM
Great,now we have DEA agents or filthy narcs trying to get guys to admit drug use on  here.Hey cop,go arrest some child molestors and stop wasting our money trying to "get" athletes.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 10, 2007, 05:35:35 AM
Great,now we have DEA agents or filthy narcs trying to get guys to admit drug use on  here.Hey cop,go arrest some child molestors and stop wasting our money trying to "get" athletes.

EXACTLY

lay off the wolf man. he's always been humble as fuck on these boards and he knows a thing or two about real strength training.

save the gear qs for the gear board. wolfe be a fuckwit to discuss cycles on a public message board. think about it.

wolfe, what type of cardio are you doing? don't tell me you've got your ass dragging that fucking sled around ???

how many pec tears did dave have before he realized that comp benching is mostly tris? how much strength did he lose getting cut?

y'all note the development in dave's tris in the ripped pics? i bet if wolfe got that cut his would probably be better.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 10, 2007, 06:00:00 AM
Ohh and as for the technique it is VERY VERY helpful in building top end strength and tricep power. I myself prefer Barbell floor presses but I have done dumbbell as well.



have you been in top shape like Dave, badwolfe? or is it impossible :)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 10, 2007, 06:22:15 AM


have you been in top shape like Dave, badwolfe? or is it impossible :)

not answering for wolfe and i hope he'll come back and play. ;D, but i doubt it very much.

he could get into that condition, but he would be kissing goodbye to the 800 + bench.

the man is just not interested in bbing and i don't blame him at all. he's one of the big dogs in the bench press arena and he has as much potential as anyone to become the alpha wolfe.

he needs to strike while the iron's hot. his peak is not going to last forever so why would he want to go stepping down from the race and give up his biscuits and gravy in the name of vanity.

i suspect he'll come down to 275 just to feel what it's like (prob hasn't been that weight since junior high ;D) and maybe add another 2 years to his life span (god, i'm a prick).
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 10, 2007, 06:38:13 AM
not answering for wolfe and i hope he'll come back and play. ;D, but i doubt it very much.

he could get into that condition, but he would be kissing goodbye to the 800 + bench.

the man is just not interested in bbing and i don't blame him at all. he's one of the big dogs in the bench press arena and he has as much potential as anyone to become the alpha wolfe.

he needs to strike while the iron's hot. his peak is not going to last forever so why would he want to go stepping down from the race and give up his biscuits and gravy in the name of vanity.

i suspect he'll come down to 275 just to feel what it's like (prob hasn't been that weight since junior high ;D) and maybe add another 2 years to his life span (god, i'm a prick).



I think I always enjoy it when I see powerlifters dieting and getting cuts. Most people don't think it's possible, cause everytime you mention Powerlifters, people have this image of a huge fat, goateed short dude who has the strenght of a Bull Moose. yes, I think powerlifting is a sport...more of a sport than bodybuilding, if you wanna call it that. If I was a powerlifter, I would get cut in the off season, in my spare time just for the hell of it. is it necessary for their sport, HELL NO
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 10, 2007, 07:58:28 AM


I think I always enjoy it when I see powerlifters dieting and getting cuts. Most people don't think it's possible, cause everytime you mention Powerlifters, people have this image of a huge fat, goateed short dude who has the strenght of a Bull Moose. yes, I think powerlifting is a sport...more of a sport than bodybuilding, if you wanna call it that. If I was a powerlifter, I would get cut in the off season, in my spare time just for the hell of it. is it necessary for their sport, HELL NO

i suspect that may have had something to do with motivating dave to do it, but tate and wolfe are different animals and, as great a p/lifter tate is, he's not in the same league as wolfe.

tate knows that he's just not going to join this elite club with 2 torn pecs. no diss on dave. he is a tremendously strong guy and for the blood, sweat, tears and more than a little grey matter, that this guy shed to get up over 600lbs with fucked up pecs is beyond anything a human being should be capable of.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 10, 2007, 08:02:13 AM
i suspect that may have had something to do with motivating dave to do it, but tate and wolfe are different animals and, as great a p/lifter tate is, he's not in the same league as wolfe.

tate knows that he's just not going to join this elite club with 2 torn pecs. no diss on dave. he is a tremendously strong guy and for the blood, sweat, tears and more than a little grey matter, that this guy shed to get up over 600lbs with fucked up pecs is beyond anything a human being should be capable of.



no doubt about it. Dave wrote an article a few years back about his 600lbs bench quest. I think that was awesome. He has his own way of working around his injuries. Most other P/lifters would quit
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 10, 2007, 08:05:19 AM
Great,now we have DEA agents or filthy narcs trying to get guys to admit drug use on  here.

 ???  I'm just an average guy asking a normal question, mate.  What's up your ass today, besides your man lover's 10 inch "stick"?
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 10, 2007, 08:18:11 AM
???  I'm just an average guy asking a normal question, mate.  What's up your ass today, besides your man lover's 10 inch "stick"?

not to belabour the point but i think it might have something to do with wolfe being a well known identity living in a country where steroids are kind of...illegal and some knob jockeying narc with nothing better to do but finally take his opportunity to satisfy his life-long fantasy revenge on that big ass wolfe lookalike that stole his lunch money in junior high...and, well, i'm thinking that wolfe and mimnaugh might feel it pertinent to not provide the opportunity on a silver platter. :-\
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 10, 2007, 08:45:21 AM
not to belabour the point but i think it might have something to do with wolfe being a well known identity living in a country where steroids are kind of...illegal and some knob jockeying narc with nothing better to do but finally take his opportunity to satisfy his life-long fantasy revenge on that big ass wolfe lookalike that stole his lunch money in junior high...and, well, i'm thinking that wolfe and mimnaugh might feel it pertinent to not provide the opportunity on a silver platter. :-\

meltdown

I like Mike, so I'm not dissing him.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on July 10, 2007, 09:01:01 AM
meltdown

I like Mike, so I'm not dissing him.

gee, is that considered a meltdown these days? :-\ ok.

i'm not saying you were dissing him, just that your questions were kind of pointed and locking him ie like a narc might do hence the aggravation from billy.

just playing switzerland is all. ;D
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 10, 2007, 09:41:42 AM
hence the aggravation from billy.


Billy is in a perpetual state of "roid rage" because he is an underachiever who never got anywhere in bb'ing or PLing.  He's just a bitter, bitter "guy" :-X :-\
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 10, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
So, you have achieved an 800+ lb bench naturally?

Joey, Naturally I have Short upper Arms and a Large Chest so Yes I guess Naturally I have benched 800 plus pounds. Now as for what you are digging for I dont discuss your business in an open forum so I guess we wont discuss mine.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 10, 2007, 03:12:11 PM


have you been in top shape like Dave, badwolfe? or is it impossible :)

I have not been in the shape that Dave is in ever!! But I have dieted down enuf to be able to see my upper abs. My biggest prob with getting that lean is loose skin. This time last yr I was wearing a size 50 pants. Now I'm wearing 40-42. Still out of shape but def alot leaner then this time last Summer.

I have no desire to lean out as much as Dave did. I'll be happy to get my ass down to 38 waist, my wife is not real fond of super lean guys anyways. She likes me where I'm at and is happy I'm alot healthier now. She would like to see me get a little leaner but nothing like Dave. So after this contest on Sunday I'm gonna buckle down some more and get my ass down under 300, might drop as far as 275.

Wolfy!!!
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on July 10, 2007, 03:17:01 PM
EXACTLY

lay off the wolf man. he's always been humble as fuck on these boards and he knows a thing or two about real strength training.

save the gear qs for the gear board. wolfe be a fuckwit to discuss cycles on a public message board. think about it.

wolfe, what type of cardio are you doing? don't tell me you've got your ass dragging that fucking sled around ???

how many pec tears did dave have before he realized that comp benching is mostly tris? how much strength did he lose getting cut?

y'all note the development in dave's tris in the ripped pics? i bet if wolfe got that cut his would probably be better.

As far as Cardio, right now I am not doing any. Trying to maintain my weight at 330-335 for my contest this Sunday. But with losing the weight all I did was hit the Treadmill for about 20-30 miunte 4 times a week getting my heart rate upto about 130 BPM and holding it there for about 10 minutes then bring it back down.

As for Dave's pec tears I'm not for sure how many he has had. I have only talked to Dave a few times in person. He trains at Elite now which is his own training facility in Ohio. They have some really good lifters over there and it is a great facility from what I have seen and heard.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 10, 2007, 03:39:54 PM
I have not been in the shape that Dave is in ever!! But I have dieted down enuf to be able to see my upper abs. My biggest prob with getting that lean is loose skin. This time last yr I was wearing a size 50 pants. Now I'm wearing 40-42. Still out of shape but def alot leaner then this time last Summer.

I have no desire to lean out as much as Dave did. I'll be happy to get my ass down to 38 waist, my wife is not real fond of super lean guys anyways. She likes me where I'm at and is happy I'm alot healthier now. She would like to see me get a little leaner but nothing like Dave. So after this contest on Sunday I'm gonna buckle down some more and get my ass down under 300, might drop as far as 275.

Wolfy!!!
good work man, and good luck on your comp.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BM OUT on July 11, 2007, 09:21:53 AM
Hmmm,little man Joey Tito says I underachieved.Imagine that?A guy who won two junior national titles in powerlifting,and was runner up three times at the seniors an underachiever?A guy that then switched over to bodybuilding and won the NPC NEW ENGLAND masters title after not stepping on a bodybuilding platform in 15 years.Then a guy coming back, AFTER fully rupturing his patella tendon and shattering his knee cap, a year later and placing second at the NPC NY METS and placing third at the New Englands.A guy that will be hitting the powerlifting platform again in Oct. after being told he needed a total knee replacement but just continues to train through the pain.Yes sir,thats a sure underachiever.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: SS on July 11, 2007, 09:26:48 AM
Hmmm,little man Joey Tito says I underachieved.Imagine that?A guy who won two junior national titles in powerlifting,and was runner up three times at the seniors an underachiever?A guy that then switched over to bodybuilding and won the NPC NEW ENGLAND masters title after not stepping on a bodybuilding platform in 15 years.Then a guy coming back, AFTER fully rupturing his patella tendon and shattering his knee cap, a year later and placing second at the NPC NY METS and placing third at the New Englands.A guy that will be hitting the powerlifting platform again in Oct. after being told he needed a total knee replacement but just continues to train through the pain.Yes sir,thats a sure underachiever.
yes these things make you man.... good job.
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 11, 2007, 09:36:55 AM
I have not been in the shape that Dave is in ever!! But I have dieted down enuf to be able to see my upper abs. My biggest prob with getting that lean is loose skin. This time last yr I was wearing a size 50 pants. Now I'm wearing 40-42. Still out of shape but def alot leaner then this time last Summer.

I have no desire to lean out as much as Dave did. I'll be happy to get my ass down to 38 waist, my wife is not real fond of super lean guys anyways. She likes me where I'm at and is happy I'm alot healthier now. She would like to see me get a little leaner but nothing like Dave. So after this contest on Sunday I'm gonna buckle down some more and get my ass down under 300, might drop as far as 275.

Wolfy!!!



when Can I train with you Wolfe...just kidding. we need you to post here more often :)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: Joey Tito on July 11, 2007, 09:40:18 AM
Hmmm,little man Joey Tito says I underachieved.Imagine that?A guy who won two junior national titles in powerlifting,and was runner up three times at the seniors an underachiever?A guy that then switched over to bodybuilding and won the NPC NEW ENGLAND masters title after not stepping on a bodybuilding platform in 15 years.Then a guy coming back, AFTER fully rupturing his patella tendon and shattering his knee cap, a year later and placing second at the NPC NY METS and placing third at the New Englands.A guy that will be hitting the powerlifting platform again in Oct. after being told he needed a total knee replacement but just continues to train through the pain.Yes sir,thats a sure underachiever.

You're my hero ::)
Title: Re: Is This technique really necessary?
Post by: BM OUT on July 12, 2007, 03:59:20 AM
Thanks,thats why I lift.