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Title: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
Well, Guys, After months of seeking advice from this board and other sources, I finally tried the needle, eventhough I hate needles, But it was less painful than I thought it would. I guess there are no alternatives. for the record, How effective is Testosteron Depot 250ml?
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 09, 2007, 09:01:48 AM
yeah, I read a few testimonies about it. but I'm just worrying about the side effects. Once I find out what to take for counter side effects, I'll consider a good cycle of test
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: bassmaster on July 09, 2007, 09:30:12 AM
thats good test, if u don't like needles then the site pain u will get tren,winny,some prop will make u cry.. so get over the fear of pinning and a couple of cycles before trying the other stuff.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: trab on July 09, 2007, 11:03:50 AM
Well, Guys, After months of seeking advice from this board and other sources, I finally tried the needle, eventhough I hate needles, But it was less painful than I thought it would. I guess there are no alternatives. for the record, How effective is Testosteron Depot 250ml?

It's Testo Enanthate. From a Human Pharma right? They are all the same if human Pharma. Like asprin is asprin.
Schering testoviron is no better than same dose of Testo Enanthate made in one of the Fla Compounding Pharmas.

I dont like a lot of what I hear on many UG gear experiences. Stick w/ Pharma if you can I'd stockpile it.
Mr Benoit messed shit up good, just wait.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: dragonheart on July 10, 2007, 04:17:06 PM
for the record, How effective is Testosteron Depot 250ml?

I gained 14lbs my first month on that.  Definately feeling the strength increase as well.

And the shots arent so bad, they get easier each time you do it.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: musclehedz on July 11, 2007, 01:02:34 AM
Started my first cycle yesterday. I took a 0.6x30mm needle and injected 1ML of Test.E in the quad. No pain at all while injecting/aspirating etc.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 12, 2007, 08:10:04 AM
I gained 14lbs my first month on that.  Definately feeling the strength increase as well.

And the shots arent so bad, they get easier each time you do it.



Agreed. I was more relaxed on my second shot...lol
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: davinci on July 12, 2007, 06:29:22 PM
g-spot pins from getpinz are best.

25 gauge and just a tiny bit of pressure and you wont even feel it break the skin...

except in some spots i have been gettin scar tissue and it gets harder to push (yes i rotate spots)
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: on one on July 12, 2007, 08:02:21 PM
davinci....how can you tell your getting scar tissue iv noticed on some spots ( i was doing ass and shoulder but now i have a hard time reaching my ass cause im short and my back will cramp so now just shoulder) that when  break  skin it actually hurts is that scar tissue or just a bad spot cause others slide in so nicely..and for the dude that was using 30's how did you get the juice out of that thing the smallest iv used was a 25 and i thought that was small what muscle are you using the 30 on i bet you cant even feel that
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: davinci on July 12, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
nah its not so much pain when i break skin. its when i get a little way in and it feels like i have just hit leather, so i have to push hard and then it seems to "break through" all way (1" needle)
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: DIVISION on July 12, 2007, 11:27:05 PM
Well, Guys, After months of seeking advice from this board and other sources, I finally tried the needle, eventhough I hate needles, But it was less painful than I thought it would. I guess there are no alternatives. for the record, How effective is Testosteron Depot 250ml?

If you can't stand the needles you might as well forget about the DarkSide of the force.   :-X



DIV
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 13, 2007, 06:51:43 AM
If you can't stand the needles you might as well forget about the DarkSide of the force.   :-X



DIV



lol....true, but I just hope somebody would do it for me sometimes. by the way, are every needle sterile, unless mentioned
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Rimbaud on July 13, 2007, 07:04:52 AM
lol....true, but I just hope somebody would do it for me sometimes. by the way, are every needle sterile, unless mentioned

Huh? Explain that question please.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 13, 2007, 08:21:37 AM
Huh? Explain that question please.


sorry for the confussion, what I mean is, I see that in some of those serynges/needles it says sterile on the box. what I want to know is does everything always come in a sterile sealed packages. I bought some from a local store, they look cheap and it did not say they were sterilized.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Overload on July 13, 2007, 08:28:39 AM

sorry for the confussion, what I mean is, I see that in some of those serynges/needles it says sterile on the box. what I want to know is does everything always come in a sterile sealed packages. I bought some from a local store, they look cheap and it did not say they were sterilized.

What brand?

they should all come in plastic packaging and say "sterile needle" or "sterile syringe".

8)
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Rimbaud on July 13, 2007, 08:29:09 AM
No not everyone comes sterile but then again why would you buy those?
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: The_Punisher on July 13, 2007, 11:53:39 AM
No not everyone comes sterile but then again why would you buy those?



I thought most place would ship them to you steriled
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: trab on July 13, 2007, 02:32:51 PM
I never had any prob from Vet needles.
Face it therez livestock w/ a net worth way more'n many PPL.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 13, 2007, 07:23:33 PM

sorry for the confussion, what I mean is, I see that in some of those serynges/needles it says sterile on the box. what I want to know is does everything always come in a sterile sealed packages. I bought some from a local store, they look cheap and it did not say they were sterilized.

Toss those and get some good ones.  Terumo or BD are good quality choices.  The vet ones I have used have been fine too.  Splurge and get spme top notch ones the are probally a nickle more each.  Remember you are sticking these in your body, not the place to pinch pennies.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: DIVISION on July 14, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
I never had any prob from Vet needles.
Face it therez livestock w/ a net worth way more'n many PPL.

As I've said before.........I didn't notice a difference between vet and human grade needles.

They both dulled at the same rate..........just that the vet pins were cheaper.



DIV
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: davinci on July 14, 2007, 07:08:25 PM
getpinz.com man. order the 30 pack terumo  with 21gauge on plunger and 25gauge seperate needle. draw with 21 then swap out to 25 then throw it away. this way i never deal with dull needles. and another thing when you use the 25 squirt out a little bit of the sauce to lube the needle up, dont push it in just kind of set the  point on your skin, and with your thumb or finger on the syringe (not plunger) just put a little bit of pressure. the needle will go in and you sometimes dont even feel it. then just gradually push it in. the more you do it the easier it gets. i used to get really shaky when i first used needles. now its like nothing
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: on one on July 17, 2007, 01:05:58 PM
yea i get shaky to it sucks especially when i have to apply all the pressure on the plunger is when i really start to shake it doesnt seem to add any extra pain at the time but i think it causes more soreness for the most part sticking yourself isnt bad its actually something to look forward to ha
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Rimbaud on July 18, 2007, 03:13:12 PM
yea i get shaky to it sucks especially when i have to apply all the pressure on the plunger is when i really start to shake it doesnt seem to add any extra pain at the time but i think it causes more soreness for the most part sticking yourself isnt bad its actually something to look forward to ha

I've noticed that a shakey/bad shot can lead to a lot of pain afterward. I've also been left with bruises the size of a quarter.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: trab on July 18, 2007, 03:52:28 PM
I've noticed that a shakey/bad shot can lead to a lot of pain afterward. I've also been left with bruises the size of a quarter.

Yes Yes Yes... Thats why I dont like that DIY around the back glute shot.
Actually a 23ga pushes oil so much easier its a good option forr guys that are not fulltimers, esp over 1cc.
25 is hard to push and it can wiggle and in and out = Hurtfull shot and big bruise.

* But I wouldnt do arms w/ a 23 less I had some monster armz!
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 18, 2007, 05:33:57 PM
Yes Yes Yes... Thats why I dont like that DIY around the back glute shot.
Actually a 23ga pushes oil so much easier its a good option forr guys that are not fulltimers, esp over 1cc.
25 is hard to push and it can wiggle and in and out = Hurtfull shot and big bruise.

* But I wouldnt do arms w/ a 23 less I had some monster armz!

Agree! and have said the same thing before.  Really no reason for a 25Ga with oils, whats wrong with the 23ga?  It passes the compound much better.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: clayton green on July 19, 2007, 04:11:19 PM
The 25 gauges are tough to push if you are pushing in 2 or more cc's  When I am doing it mysely (DIY) I like the 23 gauge as they push quicker and are  easier on my thumb. I tried freakfestmd's suggestion and used 1" on the glues  the other day in  lieu of the 1.5" and the next day they were hurting like hell for some reason.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: krazee on July 23, 2007, 07:20:13 AM
Agree! and have said the same thing before.  Really no reason for a 25Ga with oils, whats wrong with the 23ga?  It passes the compound much better.

Are you saying it because it passes the compound faster or is there a breakdown with the 25Ga that you end up losing compound? If it is a matter of time, just like bodybuilding, patience is a virtue and I don't mind waiting just a little longer with the smaller pin.
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: trab on July 23, 2007, 07:24:52 AM
Are you saying it because it passes the compound faster or is there a breakdown with the 25Ga that you end up losing compound? If it is a matter of time, just like bodybuilding, patience is a virtue and I don't mind waiting just a little longer with the smaller pin.

The thing is, if you have to press like hell, and it wiggles all around, it makes for a hurting shot.
I find more'n 1cc thru a 25ga is hard to press and not stay still.

The depth of the shot and t he particular muscle also has a effect on release rate. Its meant for "Deep IM injection".
But like most of us care if it releases faster than intended ;D
Title: Re: I hate needles
Post by: krazee on July 23, 2007, 07:33:36 AM
The thing is, if you have to press like hell, and it wiggles all around, it makes for a hurting shot.
I find more'n 1cc thru a 25ga is hard to press and not stay still.

The depth of the shot and t he particular muscle also has a effect on release rate. Its meant for "Deep IM injection".
But like most of us care if it releases faster than intended ;D

That would explain alot of the painful shots in the past I had always assumed it was just what I was taking, although that probably has something to do with it as well. I will say this I find doin my shot in the shower has reall helped as the heat from the steam makes it easier to push in...wow, that really sounded wrong, LOL.