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gh15,
What is the best recommended way to bring up lagging hamstrings?
Train more?, less?, certain movements? Also does cardio done PWO such as stepmill have a negative effect on the legs? What is the key to shredded straited legs?
Thanks for your time
standing leg curls,,squats,,lunges,,squats,,stiff leg deads,,squats,,
if it was me as a begginer!,, id only do squats for training legs,,all the rest is secondary,,id make sure to do the squats correctly!! and not 1/6 of a move,,do it power lifter style from beggining to end this is how you do squats,,ass to the fuckin ground and up,,you cant handle the weight,,take off plates,,only way there is my friends,,you can grow huge legs by doing squats correctly workin with 2-3 plates a side and not the 6 you like to put for the local hoes at your gym to be impressed with,,,do it right and youll grow do it wrong and youll have strong bones and strong hip bones
when it comes to shredded legs and condition in general it depends on genetics and drugs,,but most importantly when it comes to lines its all genetics and muscle shape,,can be best,,good,,average,,and bad,,
best and good usually make it to top amatuer/pro card
one more thing*youre a bodybuilder,,cardio is not needed if hormonized,,cardio is usually the excuse for either not having enough money for the doses you need,,or not keeping clean diet during prep
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So you recommend cutting agents in place of cardio?
What about hacks for legs?
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Hamstring curls on the machine 3 times a week increase weight each week and watch them grow.Sorry i forgot stiff legged Deadlifts.
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Keep em coming gh15, some of us actually look forward to your posts. ;D
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standing leg curls,,squats,,lunges,,squats,,stiff leg deads,,squats,,
if it was me as a begginer!,, id only do squats for training legs,,all the rest is secondary,,id make sure to do the squats correctly!! and not 1/6 of a move,,do it power lifter style from beggining to end this is how you do squats,,ass to the fuckin ground and up,,you cant handle the weight,,take off plates,,only way there is my friends,,you can grow huge legs by doing squats correctly workin with 2-3 plates a side and not the 6 you like to put for the local hoes at your gym to be impressed with,,,do it right and youll grow do it wrong and youll have strong bones and strong hip bones
when it comes to shredded legs and condition in general it depends on genetics and drugs,,but most importantly when it comes to lines its all genetics and muscle shape,,can be best,,good,,average,,and bad,,
best and good usually make it to top amatuer/pro card
one more thing*youre a bodybuilder,,cardio is not needed if hormonized,,cardio is usually the excuse for either not having enough money for the doses you need,,or not keeping clean diet during prep
Are you trying to say top tier pros like Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Victor, etc don't have the money for the dosages they need?
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Are you trying to say top tier pros like Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Victor, etc don't have the money for the dosages they need?
words for from Dextor: "I don't do much cardio, only 30 minutes 3 or 4 times a week"...lol
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standing leg curls,,squats,,lunges,,squats,,stiff leg deads,,squats,,
if it was me as a begginer!,, id only do squats for training legs,,all the rest is secondary,,id make sure to do the squats correctly!! and not 1/6 of a move,,do it power lifter style from beggining to end this is how you do squats,,ass to the fuckin ground and up,,you cant handle the weight,,take off plates,,only way there is my friends,,you can grow huge legs by doing squats correctly workin with 2-3 plates a side and not the 6 you like to put for the local hoes at your gym to be impressed with,,,do it right and youll grow do it wrong and youll have strong bones and strong hip bones
when it comes to shredded legs and condition in general it depends on genetics and drugs,,but most importantly when it comes to lines its all genetics and muscle shape,,can be best,,good,,average,,and bad,,
best and good usually make it to top amatuer/pro card
one more thing*youre a bodybuilder,,cardio is not needed if hormonized,,cardio is usually the excuse for either not having enough money for the doses you need,,or not keeping clean diet during prep
Ronnie is not broke,he eats clean,his Prep is inpeccable, i do not understand the last paragragh as Ronnie does Precontest cardio.
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standing leg curls,,squats,,lunges,,squats,,stiff leg deads,,squats,,
if it was me as a begginer!,, id only do squats for training legs,,all the rest is secondary,,id make sure to do the squats correctly!! and not 1/6 of a move,,do it power lifter style from beggining to end this is how you do squats,,ass to the fuckin ground and up,,you cant handle the weight,,take off plates,,only way there is my friends,,you can grow huge legs by doing squats correctly workin with 2-3 plates a side and not the 6 you like to put for the local hoes at your gym to be impressed with,,,do it right and youll grow do it wrong and youll have strong bones and strong hip bones
Good point.
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WTF
most pros do 2-3 hours of cardio a day during their prep
now i know this guy is bullshit
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Are you trying to say top tier pros like Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Victor, etc don't have the money for the dosages they need?
Gh has said before that someone that is on drugs does not require cardio to get to the 6% range...but to get to that 3%-4% cardio is needed.
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WTF
most pros do 2-3 hours of cardio a day during their prep
now i know this guy is bullshit
no one does 2-3 hrs cardio a day. get a clue.
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After a good hard squatting session I'm always exhausted and I always feel that everything else is just filling. I'll just squat right from now on. Thanx gh15
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Gh15 is a fast learner and good marketer.
He took the critism well that he's just a drug pusher and doesn't give training info.
Even though he still has you believe it's all drugs (so buy them from him), he throwing in some throw-you-off track, very basic training advice.
You got to give it to him.
He will do anything to get your money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gh has said before that someone that is on drugs does not require cardio to get to the 6% range...but to get to that 3%-4% cardio is needed.
Cardio is not needed to get to the 3-4% range. All you have to do is eat less. However this is not what Gh15 stated. He said they only do cardio if they cannot afford the drugs and as many of you have seen there is video evidence of them doing alot of cardio. Jay Cutler does it twice a day and i think burns something like 600-1000 cals a session and eats 3k cals when cutting.
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Cardio is not needed to get to the 3-4% range. All you have to do is eat less. However this is not what Gh15 stated. He said they only do cardio if they cannot afford the drugs and as many of you have seen there is video evidence of them doing alot of cardio. Jay Cutler does it twice a day and i think burns something like 600-1000 cals a session and eats 3k cals when cutting.
nobody burns 1000 calories during a cardio session unless they're running 12 miles or more.
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nobody burns 1000 calories during a cardio session unless they're running 12 miles or more.
good point
you would have to run at a good pace for at least an hour
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nobody burns 1000 calories during a cardio session unless they're running 12 miles or more.
good spot chubby
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good spot chubby
hahahahaha, ok skinny. ;D
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nobody burns 1000 calories during a cardio session unless they're running 12 miles or more.
Wrong... Walking cardio for an hour for a 160 pound male like myself is 600 calories burned. Jay Cutler is doing the same work except is 270-300 pounds. Now picture how much energy is required to move a limb as heavy as his. Lets say he burns 600 a session hypothetically. Even then if he does it twice a day thats 1200 calories. Add in other factors such as Clenbuterol or ephedrine or whatever fatburner he is using and you can have 400 more.
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hahahahaha, ok skinny. ;D
SWIMMER. ;)
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Wrong... Walking cardio for an hour for a 160 pound male like myself is 600 calories burned. Jay Cutler is doing the same work except is 270-300 pounds. Now picture how much energy is required to move a limb as heavy as his. Lets say he burns 600 a session hypothetically. Even then if he does it twice a day thats 1200 calories. Add in other factors such as Clenbuterol or ephedrine or whatever fatburner he is using and you can have 400 more.
you must have a hella fast metabolism because i only burn around 250-300 walking fast AND on an incline for that long, oh well.
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no one does 2-3 hrs cardio a day. get a clue.
you've never watched a pro's video before?
almost all of them state that they do two 60 minute sessions, one in the morning and one at night, for their contest prep.
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you must have a hella fast metabolism because i only burn around 250-300 walking fast AND on an incline for that long, oh well.
How the hell fast are you going? 1 mph? On an incline at 2.9 in 20 minutes time i burn about 230 according to the treadmill if that is accurate. Of course it isn't so you have to estimate. The only way to find the exact ammount of calories burned would be to measure your intake volume of oxygene over the course of the time spent on the treadmill. Heart rate isn't always an accurate indicator of calories burned.
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How the hell fast are you going? 1 mph? On an incline at 2.9 in 20 minutes time i burn about 230 according to the treadmill if that is accurate. Of course it isn't so you have to estimate. The only way to find the exact ammount of calories burned would be to measure your intake volume of oxygene over the course of the time spent on the treadmill. Heart rate isn't always an accurate indicator of calories burned.
no, i walk at a 6 degree incline at 3.7 miles an hour and the treadmill says that i burn around 270 calories.
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no, i walk at a 6 degree incline at 3.7 miles an hour and the treadmill says that i burn around 270 calories.
Ahh no wonder, put it at 15. Always put it at as high as it can go.
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hahahahaha, ok skinny. ;D
The balls on you, boy.
Study the pic. Print it, tape it to the fridge. Dare to dream.
Willpower is not a superhero.
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Good point.
yes! yesterday i did
squats, 4 warm up sets + 5 work sets
front squats, 3 sets
stiff legged deads, 8 sets
lounges, 2 sets
can hardly walk today
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The balls on you, boy.
Study the pic. Print it, tape it to the fridge. Dare to dream.
Willpower is not a superhero.
translation=you're skinnier than him and you're sticking up for your own kind. :D
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translation=you're skinnier than him and you're sticking up for your own kind. :D
I wish. I'm tubby right now. Like you, but without the chins.
You're Daddy's "big boned" princess, tiger. Stop listening to loved ones.
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I wish. I'm tubby right now. Like you, but without the chins.
You're Daddy's "big boned" princess, tiger. Stop listening to loved ones.
hahahahaha, of course you are but as usual no pics to back up what you claim. ;D
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I claim to be tubby, this requires proof?
Oh, the chins ...
Is this a soft spot?
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Might be a good time for your fat "This Proves I'm Not Fat" pic.
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hahahahaha, of course you are but as usual no pics to back up what you claim. ;D
And where were your pics until Alex23 outted you like the bitch you are? Epic pot calling the kettle black Dave ;)
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And where were your pics until Alex23 outted you like the bitch you are? Epic pot calling the kettle black Dave ;)
We never "outted" him... we just asked for a pic and ends up Dave is a big dude who lifts weights.
Beats psyco gimmick melting down all over the boards...
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ends up Dave is a big dude
Agreed.
"Big."
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Ronnie is not broke,he eats clean,his Prep is inpeccable, i do not understand the last paragragh as Ronnie does Precontest cardio.
You need to pay attention more. He was referring to beginners and he is correct as far as squats go. They are all that is needed for all around leg development for the average guy NOT Mr. Olympia. A far as cardio goes, again there is not much need unless you are 6 weeks out or so as long as you are in shape and eating correctly.
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Are you trying to say top tier pros like Ronnie, Jay, Gunter, Victor, etc don't have the money for the dosages they need?
no
what i was saying is that to stand 280lb anything,, correction,,,to stand 250 anything at 6% at 5;9,,,you cant sit and eat chicken and brown rice 6 times a day,,
inorder to stand at those numbers you need to eat ANYTHING AT SITE IN YOUR LOCAL ASIAN BUFFET,,FROM THE MONGOLIAN GRILL TO THE DUMPLINGS AND STEAKS AND SOME EGGROLLS FOR THE FLAX SEED OIL ;)
its not that we dont have money for the doses,,it doesnt cost us that much to begin with since its either sponsored or bought by us on good deals,,,but! when you talk about 280lb 6-7% of anything at 5'8-5'10!!,,you aint talking about no brown rice and overroasted chiken 6 times a day i can assure you that
cardio is something bodybuilder stay as far as they can from,,UNLESS THEY DONT FOLLOW CLEAN DIET DURING PREP,,and sometimes even if they dont follow clean diet they still dont do cardio and count on epehdrine/t3/ai/clenbuterol/dnp/growth/prescribed duretics to save their day,,ofcourse in most cases it doesnt work since the bodyfat is too high for the level talked about as in 6% rather than 4%,,
if you show up in vegas 6% you will place last,,4% is a rule of thumb to get on o stage,,and im talking about true 4%
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I can somewhat agree with the diet part of what GH15 is saying. I dont know if they prep with junk food but I really dont believe Ronnie eats 300lbs worth of calories by consuming chicken and brown rice.
Im not very lean but im not a fat ass either, and I am at around 256 right now.. even that is hard for me to keep up eating extremly clean. When I do my weight plummets almost instantly.
2 days ago I ate nothing but cheeseburgers, tacos, fried chicken, pizza and chicken sandwiches.. all fast food...except breakfast my breakfast is always very clean... I woke up the next day and I was 4 lbs lighter ???
all that sodium and extra calories.. what happened? where did it go? I looked better too than the previous morning..( shrugs)
Hint: You didn't lose muscle.
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It's familiar ...eating like a bear, and waking up the next day looking better and lighter
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Thanks gh, ill go basics, but i think i still have to di cardio.
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It's familiar ...eating like a bear, and waking up the next day looking better and lighter
hahahahaha, ok you huge mass monster. ;D
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WTF
most pros do 2-3 hours of cardio a day during their prep
now i know this guy is bullshit
you have been believing to many of these "PROS" DVD's...wasn't it Vince Taylor who said on PBW that nobody does cardio anymore...or something like that....
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you have been believing to many of these "PROS" DVD's...wasn't it Vince Taylor who said on PBW that nobody does cardio anymore...or something like that....
Possibly but do you really think Jay is going to get up at 2-3am to sweat it out on the tread just for his DVD? I doubt it.....
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I know I didnt lose muscle all im saying is that I understand what GH15 is saying about keeping up at a high weight only eating clean food sometimes I cant even do it eating junk food!
God helps us all!
And no I don't believe in God.
:)
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Ya i really dont understand how jay, ronnie, dennis can keep 280 o orange roughy and freakin brown rice. In ronnies dvd he manhandles outback, and other bbq style resturants. He eats "clean enough". But to have jay saying hes on a contest style diet yr round, is a little tough to swallow
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Possibly but do you really think Jay is going to get up at 2-3am to sweat it out on the tread just for his DVD? I doubt it.....
i wouldnt believe a word the guy says. he lies about the supplement companies who endorse him. also, in a mag, there is an add for some gay chest press machine and a quote saying something about it being crucial to his workout yet later on in the mag, he states "i dont use machines anymore", which is also, proven a lie if you have seen any of his videos. so...
who cares what works for someone else? find out what works best for you and stick with it.