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We have strong reason to believe that Bin Laden is in Pakistan and that Al Qaeda has regrouped there as well.
The reason, of course, is that Pakistan is a sovereign nation and we just don't go around invading sovereign nations, especially those that we know actually has WMD's
Karl Rove made this point last week at the Aspen Idea Festival and got a ironic laugh from the crowd ( I wish I could find the video)
Bush made a similar comment last year.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html
Q Thank you, Mr. President. Earlier this week, you told a group of journalists that you thought the idea of sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was a strategy that would not work.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
Q Now, recently you've also --
THE PRESIDENT: Because, first of all, Pakistan is a sovereign nation.
Q Well, recently you've also described bin Laden as a sort of modern day Hitler or Mussolini. And I'm wondering why, if you can explain why you think it's a bad idea to send more resources to hunt down bin Laden, wherever he is?
THE PRESIDENT: We are, Richard. Thank you. Thanks for asking the question. They were asking me about somebody's report, well, special forces here -- Pakistan -- if he is in Pakistan, as this person thought he might be, who is asking the question -- Pakistan is a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation, we've got to be invited by the government of Pakistan.
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I can't remember Iraq or Afghanistan inviting us into their sovereign nations
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going into paki would be a bigger cluster fuck than iraq is...
plus pakistan nas nukes..
saddam meraly forgot to use his ::)
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going into paki would be a bigger cluster fuck than iraq is...
plus pakistan nas nukes..
saddam meraly forgot to use his ::)
I totally agree but I just find the administrations "reason" hilarious
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I think that we've come to the end of appeasing pakistan. I think we'll go into the tribal areas if we get good intel that Bin laden or whoever is at a given location. They'll keep it small and quiet. They will have to give Mushariff deniability so the nutbags won't overthrow him. Pakistan is a very complex issue.
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I totally agree but I just find the administrations "reason" hilarious
me think they should send in special ops into paki and take osama out that way...
pakitan dosen't have to know..or they can then say "hey we never knew"
its a win win..
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I think that we've come to the end of appeasing pakistan. I think we'll go into the tribal areas if we get good intel that Bin laden or whoever is at a given location. They'll keep it small and quiet. They will have to give Mushariff deniability so the nutbags won't overthrow him. Pakistan is a very complex issue.
there we go...kinda posted my reply before reading yours..
everytime musharafs rating drops there is a close miss on his life..then his ratings go back up :-\
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I think thats the point they're coming to. They had a shot in 05' to do just that but the operation got way to big and would have involved to many US troops. Plus the Paki government couldn't sucessfully deny 200-300 guys flying around the border area.
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They gotta watch what happens with that guy. If the nutbags ever got into power India would have a shit fit and start launching crap at them.
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I think that we've come to the end of appeasing pakistan. I think we'll go into the tribal areas if we get good intel that Bin laden or whoever is at a given location. They'll keep it small and quiet. They will have to give Mushariff deniability so the nutbags won't overthrow him. Pakistan is a very complex issue.
So what if Bin Laden is in Pakistan?
Our commander and chief thinks that he's no longer a problem:
"..Terror is bigger than one person..So I don't know where [Bin Laden] is..You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. ...I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."
March 13, 2002
That's quite a turn around from this earlier quote:
"We're going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive, it doesn't matter to me." 12/14/2001
Then he lied about making the first statement:
"I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations."
3rd Presidential Debate, October 13, 2004
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This is whats wrong..your guys or the Dems and Repubs can bicker all they want about who said what when, the point is that Bin laden is still a threat. The folks in Washington have decided that while Bin laden was marginalized for 2001-2005 or so...his organization has undergone a bit of a resurgence and despite the precarious postion Musharrif holds in Pakistan, we can no longer afford to let him roam around the tribal areas. I heard this from several folks during briefs etc in the past 6 months. We disbanded TF 19, which was a joint unit set up to hunt Bin Laden. It was made up of SOF units from the US and Britain and other organizations. I guess they coming back.
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This is whats wrong..your guys or the Dems and Repubs can bicker all they want about who said what when, the point is that Bin laden is still a threat. The folks in Washington have decided that while Bin laden was marginalized for 2001-2005 or so...his organization has undergone a bit of a resurgence and despite the precarious postion Musharrif holds in Pakistan, we can no longer afford to let him roam around the tribal areas. I heard this from several folks during briefs etc in the past 6 months. We disbanded TF 19, which was a joint unit set up to hunt Bin Laden. It was made up of SOF units from the US and Britain and other organizations. I guess they coming back.
so if kept our eye on the target and not saddam we'd probably have OBL now.
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Yeah i think so....
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I think pakistan will become an issue during the election. Especially if it looks like the Dems can make a case for the war in Iraq distracting or undermining efforts to get Bin laden.They are not our friend. The amount of nutbags coming out of there is astonishing. They have refugee afghanis, Taliban and all kinds of wacko's training in thjose tribal areas that the governmnet can't touch. We're going to have to go in and get them.
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This is whats wrong..your guys or the Dems and Repubs can bicker all they want about who said what when, the point is that Bin laden is still a threat. The folks in Washington have decided that while Bin laden was marginalized for 2001-2005 or so...his organization has undergone a bit of a resurgence and despite the precarious postion Musharrif holds in Pakistan, we can no longer afford to let him roam around the tribal areas. I heard this from several folks during briefs etc in the past 6 months. We disbanded TF 19, which was a joint unit set up to hunt Bin Laden. It was made up of SOF units from the US and Britain and other organizations. I guess they coming back.
I know what you mean, but by the same token Bush sets the tone for the country. He keeps saying stupid shit. Don't blame be for his incompetence.
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I think pakistan will become an issue during the election. Especially if it looks like the Dems can make a case for the war in Iraq distracting or undermining efforts to get Bin laden.They are not our friend. The amount of nutbags coming out of there is astonishing. They have refugee afghanis, Taliban and all kinds of wacko's training in thjose tribal areas that the governmnet can't touch. We're going to have to go in and get them.
It's time Pakistan sacks up and goes back into those tribal regions. Al Qaeda has free reign to do whatever they want in there right now, which is laughable. I'm willing to bet that at least 75% of the high command is hiding in there, too.
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The government can't go in there. The troops won't go in. He can turn a blind eye to us rolling in with SOF and getting the job done.
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The government can't go in there. The troops won't go in. He can turn a blind eye to us rolling in with SOF and getting the job done.
They can't go into there because of a useless agreement they signed with rules that the tribes have been breaking since the day they signed it. It's pretty much void. They won't go in there because Mush is a pussy. I wouldn't be surprised if there were already a few SF squads lurking in there anyway.
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Yeah there are...plenty but they don't venture to far. Bin laden is buried pretty deep. The country up there is extremely rough. You'd be a pussy to if your were hanging on by a string.
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I think pakistan will become an issue during the election. Especially if it looks like the Dems can make a case for the war in Iraq distracting or undermining efforts to get Bin laden.They are not our friend. The amount of nutbags coming out of there is astonishing. They have refugee afghanis, Taliban and all kinds of wacko's training in thjose tribal areas that the governmnet can't touch. We're going to have to go in and get them.
i'm going in december for a wedding..
wanna go?
karachi?
lol we'll be surrounded by guards..head of anti terrorism task force in karrachi is a distant uncle :)
i'm just goin to trek the himilyas..most of my ftriends dont wanna go..i just wanna have someone i can speak english to >:(
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It's time Pakistan sacks up and goes back into those tribal regions. Al Qaeda has free reign to do whatever they want in there right now, which is laughable. I'm willing to bet that at least 75% of the high command is hiding in there, too.
shut the fuck up horse face..
like ya got credence..DONT ,MAKE ME CALL YOUR HOME AND ASK YOUR MUM TO SUCK MY COCK AGAIN..man o man that ws fun ;D
anyhow..you have ABSOLUTELY NO CREDENCE IN THIS TOPIC..
if a gun shot went off near ya the likes ya would shit himself..
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just don't talk funny or wear a silly hat
xL
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n oh horse face..why dontcha come to karachi with me... ;)
i could make up to 20k selling yer ass to an afghani male girl house..
they'll cut off yere tougue though..and cut off yer legs..then u can be a cumcatcher for horney virgin afghan teens that want a woman but cant have one..for life :)
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just don't talk funny or wear a silly hat
xL
december..you me..beer ..ok?
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december..you me..beer ..ok?
Perhaps if you really think you're getting to Pakistan from the US for a fucking wedding (you'd better have a better excuse, the last lot said that), it might be a good idea to go via London OR TOKYO OR TORONTO. CU
love from white mess in England xL
they will have banned beer here by December.
OH I CAN'T FIND THAT WONDERFUL PIC OF SHANGRI LA
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if a gun shot went off near ya the likes ya would shit himself..
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And the likes of the rest of you would still be without a passport and unable to fit on an airplane
(sorry, I don't dislike americans, i'm one of them. I dislike the politics and the antisocial behaviour..
Love ya, mean it
Lunch?
Linda
xxx
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ok it's only 2am here, but I'm wondering, did you think 9/11 was a computer game?
Do you know about how they (the English) partitioned India?
Get to Pakistan. It's or was a beautiful place
shang
ri
la
All you need is a valid passport. Perhaps enough money. Don't take cash. Wear a mad hat and see the relatives.
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Perhaps if you really think you're getting to Pakistan from the US for a fucking wedding (you'd better have a better excuse, the last lot said that), it might be a good idea to go via London OR TOKYO OR TORONTO. CU
love from white mess in England xL
they will have banned beer here by December.
OH I CAN'T FIND THAT WONDERFUL PIC OF SHANGRI LA
couzin getting married...i'll pick ya up ..come with me..you
ll be safe and wel taken care of.
shrug
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o..shangri-la pakistan
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=shangri+la+pakistan&spell=1
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not quite sure how to respond to someone in mrlyd who doesn't speak english.
the hte (oh look, it's in the thread below this: teh) thing was something I learned on the internet (here at getbig) long before I was taught what lol and lol on the carpet or the floor thing was. It is not a typo, it is way beyond that.
Re: toxy: Oy Boy... I'm fairly certain you'll find a way to get there irregardless, but you know what, if you really need a companion who can translate English to American, I'm feeling so mad nowadays.
I could rent my flat (or just the back bedroom) out for £250 a week and I'm lovely dark skinned and I could get away with it, so I'm coming with you to Shangrila via London (and Paris and Amsterdam and... I wanna go to Italy and eat properly
So bomb Pakistan. If your politicans (Bush had the finger on the button? but we wouldn't understand that here as we have a parliament) were capable of 9/11 and we're beginning to believe that, then anything is possible.
Biff bofff, my computer is screaming at me. I've thrown the keyboard at the wall. Bash
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hahaha
And in other news, Pakistan is a shithole and will continue to be until massive reforms are taken and they set that country straight.
check your history prior to when your (lovely new white man) country was even thought of by the Eastern whites. we whites fucked up India (Africa on the way) first, okay>?
Round cape horn to Australia. Kill them natives.
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relax linda we'll have a few of my friends call bezerkfurys parents next week..
maybe one of em will ask his mum is she likes a nice soft tongue in her ass..
unless of course he's changed his #..but...we can fix dat ;D
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xxxLinda, you're an idiot. Look at the affluent parts of the world map. Then compare it with a map of the British colonies.
And Toxic... oh boy you're a fucking nutcase.
How many people have you invited to PK in this thread? Can I come?
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xxxLinda, you're an idiot. Look at the affluent parts of the world map. Then compare it with a map of the British colonies.
And Toxic... oh boy you're a fucking nutcase.
How many people have you invited to PK in this thread? Can I come?
more the merrier..! :) north paki is a sight to behold man..
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more the merrier..! :) north paki is a sight to behold man..
Yes, it's geographical locations are quite beautiful.
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Yes, it's geographical locations are quite beautiful.
Think about the fact that with the complete lack of law there one can kill as many arabs as they please and suffer no repercussions.
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Their not Arabs. ::)
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Their not Arabs. ::)
Sorry, would raghead muslim be more PC? They're arabs.
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Rag head muslim is fine...their not arabs. Just like the nutbags in indonesia aren't arabs..nutbag mulsims...but not arabs.
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Rag head muslim is fine...their not arabs. Just like the nutbags in indonesia aren't arabs..nutbag mulsims...but not arabs.
I tend to lump Pakistan into the middle east. Technically you're right but I just find it easier calling them Arabs.
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Thats the problem....if u understand em u can stop em. Each group of Muslim nutbags is different.
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Rag head muslim is fine...their not arabs. Just like the nutbags in indonesia aren't arabs..nutbag mulsims...but not arabs.
relax mayne....this guy followed me around the board about 6 months back..i found his home # and where he lived and had a few people call his mum in return...then his parents took away his net privilidges..
seems he's back...he'll be an annoyance till i can put him away again..
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relax mayne....this guy followed me around the board about 6 months back..i found his home # and where he lived and had a few people call his mum in return...then his parents took away his net privilidges..
seems he's back...he'll be an annoyance till i can put him away again..
hahahah, you never called once. But I think it is about time I give Liaquat and Shariq a call. I'd offer to take her out but the day I touch a muslim is the day I kill myself.
What's it like being a miserable 150 pound, 31 year old virgin who still lives with his parents? I'm still laughing about the fact that you had to make a thread on the X because no one wished you happy birthday. :D
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hahahah, you never called once. But I think it is about time I give Liaquat and Shariq a call. I'd offer to take her out but the day I touch a muslim is the day I kill myself.
o i didn't say i called..
how how ws the last 6 months without internet privs ;D
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hahahah, you never called once. But I think it is about time I give Liaquat and Shariq a call. I'd offer to take her out but the day I touch a muslim is the day I kill myself.
What's it like being a miserable 150 pound, 31 year old virgin who still lives with his parents? I'm still laughing about the fact that you had to make a thread on the X because no one wished you happy birthday. :D
you went and ammended your post..i'm not even doing anything and i'm soo far under your skin ;D
and make that 160 lb ex virgin thats just 2 lazy for laundry..its ok buddy..its expeted of gentry ;D
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hahaha, brutal double post. I'm so far in your head that you feel the need to reply to every post I make.
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hahaha, brutal double post. I'm so far in your head that you feel the need to reply to every post I make.
pot kettle black :-\
owell you've been here 1 day and already ruined 2 threads..
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pot kettle black :-\
owell you've been here 1 day and already ruined 2 threads..
Pretty sure you jumped all over me in this thread because I insulted the motherland shithole known as Pakistan. I'm sorry that you know absolutely nothing about the workings of your own country nor the one you live in now. :-\
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BF..u want to do this owning shit do it on another board...its not enough to sling racial slurs here..u gotta back it up ;D.
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BF..u want to do this owning shit do it on another board...its not enough to sling racial slurs here..u gotta back it up ;D.
I'll back it up. Pakistan is a shithole country full of poor migrants who are pretty much worthless and a waste of time and money. The Pakistani ISI knows where pretty much all of the Al Qaeda leadership is and refuses to give their whereabouts out because they're pro-Taliban. In other words, they suck and their country is a mess. There's an interview on CNN or MSNBC with one of the Governor's of an Afghan province that lays it out pretty clearly as to why we can't find these Al Qaeda guys.
Now Toxic, he's a dumb raghead that can't even type coherently but tries to play it off like he's intelligent. He's also 31, poor and lives at home with his parents. Anything else?
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Much better rant! ;D
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I'll back it up. Pakistan is a shithole country full of poor migrants who are pretty much worthless and a waste of time and money. The Pakistani ISI knows where pretty much all of the Al Qaeda leadership is and refuses to give their whereabouts out because they're pro-Taliban. In other words, they suck and their country is a mess. There's an interview on CNN or MSNBC with one of the Governor's of an Afghan province that lays it out pretty clearly as to why we can't find these Al Qaeda guys.
Now Toxic, he's a dumb raghead that can't even type coherently but tries to play it off like he's intelligent. He's also 31, poor and lives at home with his parents. Anything else?
paki Is a pos country..which is why i'm in america and i love it here..
i live at home yeah...i dont really see the point in moving..why pay rent when that money can go towards tips to the beach..i do however rent out a room in ocean pines (beach) yr round where i can go to get away..
i do drive a pos civic..i'm anti bling..guys with nice cars almost always r ugly and insecure..besides any douche that can come up with $500/month for payments can drive a nice car..i'll buy me a nice one when i ca pay for it in cash..then I OWN the car..not the bank..
i work at www.asmed.com where i'm a CCSI and make $70/hr
maybe one of these days i'l;l pass my ccie but i'm content for now..
now for a punk that wont even post a pic..well he posted them after already being outed for being horse face you sure talk a lot.. :-\