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Getbig Female Info Boards => Figure, Bikini and Fitness Info and Discussions => Topic started by: Scooby on July 16, 2007, 12:44:42 PM
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With the discussion of all the Pro cards being given out over the past several years it brings up the question... What happens to all these girls after they turn Pro?
How many just fade away and never compete again? (Name some names if you know of any)
How many struggle in the Pro ranks trying to make Top 10 year after year? (Name some names if you know of any)
How many girls seemed to dominate NPC shows on their way to their Pro card and then just never live up to their anticipated potential as a Pro? (Name some names if you know of any)
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ME.... hahahaha and my reason for not wanting to continue...
1. I dont want to take the drugs..and granted that not every person is on them.. I doubt the top are not on anything.. I have been there and know the dealio
2. I rather make real money than fritter it away on 2k suits and the hope of winning the O which would net 20k.. when I could make that in a month.
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ME.... hahahaha and my reason for not wanting to continue...
No not you... you made a name for yourself in the pro ranks, you were a real threat to alot of girls.
I'm talking more girls like Jaime Franklin (poof gone), Casey Watts in fitness (poof gone), or Michelle Flake and Jeanette Freed who were always neck and neck at NPC shows then they get their Pro cards and after a few shows Flake vanishes and Freed although still around can't seem to get it together.
20k.. when I could make that in a month.
Just let me know when you wanna earn that in a day and I'll bring my checkbook ;D
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Done.... send me your address... I will be there..lol better not be a rubber check..lol
In defense of some of these ladies, I think that life happens.. families... careers.. if only we could make decent money doing this... and now with so many ladies and an even better gene pool it gets harder and harder
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A beginning list of onstage disappointments:
Elaine Goodlad
Marcy Porter
Colette Flack
Michelle Flake
Ali McKnight
Jen Hartley
Melissa Frabbiele
Shelby Kadyk
Amy Peters
Heather Mae French
Corry Matthews
Liane Seiwald
Alexis Ellis
Zena Collins
Laura Sutter
Lisa Schaerer-Maloy
Stephanie Collins
Elizabeth Lamm
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A beginning list of onstage disappointments:
Elaine Goodlad
Marcy Porter
Colette Flack
Michelle Flake
Ali McKnight
Jen Hartley
Melissa Frabbiele
Shelby Kadyk
Amy Peters
Heather Mae French
Corry Matthews
Liane Seiwald
Alexis Ellis
Zena Collins
Laura Sutter
Lisa Schaerer-Maloy
Stephanie Collins
Elizabeth Lamm
Wow! This is the disappointing list!
First off there are girls on here who have only been on stage once or twice and their a disappointment?
Secondly, I will say this Stephanie Collins is the one of the most pleasant people in the sport. She seems to never get upset about her placing and looks to have more fun than just about anybody on stage. You know maybe Steph has really figured it out and we all could learn something.
And Lastly, I'm sorry but Elaine Goodlad????
Disappointment ain't never looked so GOOD!!!!!!!
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Wow! This is the disappointing list!
First off there are girls on here who have only been on stage once or twice and their a disappointment?
Secondly, I will say this Stephanie Collins is the one of the most pleasant people in the sport. She seems to never get upset about her placing and looks to have more fun than just about anybody on stage. You know maybe Steph has really figured it out and we all could learn something.
And Lastly, I'm sorry but Elaine Goodlad????
Disappointment ain't never looked so GOOD!!!!!!!
It's not a personality contest, chief. Maybe she has reached her potential. Who besides Stephanie has only been on stage once?
Elaine Goodlad looks good in the magazines but on stage she never matched what she's done off the stage. That was the question, How many struggle in the Pro ranks trying to make Top 10 year after year?
Add Milmar Sarcev to the list.
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Well DC, we can tell you are not real familar w/ these girls at all.
Steph has been on stage a number of times. My point was that it comes down to what you think disappointing means. To me Steph is a bright spot in the sport and far from a disapointment.
Who on your list how bout Cory Mathews? Give the girl some time she will do just fine. Elizabeth Lamm had some quality callouts her rookie year, not having a great 2007, but she will be the first to tell you she's still trying to figure out some things and she to will place wll soon.
As far as Elaine Goodlad goes you say she has never matched what she has done off the stage AHHHHH what the heck does that mean. What were your expectations of Elaine? Did you follow her through the amateur ranks? No what you are basically saying is she is drop dead gorgeous as a model and has not been able to duplicate that on stage, which one has entirley nothing to do w/ the other.
All I am saying is they all made it to where they are now, not everybody can place top five at every show, but they are all far from disappointing.
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Well DC, we can tell you are not real familar w/ these girls at all.
Steph has been on stage a number of times. My point was that it comes down to what you think disappointing means. To me Steph is a bright spot in the sport and far from a disapointment.
Who on your list how bout Cory Mathews? Give the girl some time she will do just fine. Elizabeth Lamm had some quality callouts her rookie year, not having a great 2007, but she will be the first to tell you she's still trying to figure out some things and she to will place wll soon.
As far as Elaine Goodlad goes you say she has never matched what she has done off the stage AHHHHH what the heck does that mean. What were your expectations of Elaine? Did you follow her through the amateur ranks? No what you are basically saying is she is drop dead gorgeous as a model and has not been able to duplicate that on stage, which one has entirley nothing to do w/ the other.
All I am saying is they all made it to where they are now, not everybody can place top five at every show, but they are all far from disappointing.
You're not the sharpest tool in your shed are you? What happens to all these girls after they turn Pro? How many times has Steph been on stage as a pro? I'm sure she's nice, never met her but she is everything wrong with figure when you see her contest photos and in her two piece. Corry Matthews has been on stage a few times if I am not mistaken and as soft as a hostess twinkie. Exactly what I am saying about Elaine. She is a super model off stage and done far more there then on stage. What's her highest placings? Compared to her off stage accomplishments. DISAPPOINTMENT. Not everyone has the right connections is what you're saying?
Tivo me, will ya?
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Alexis Ellis is in School. She will return when Done. Alexis Competes to promote her business. She has only done two shows, and will do more!! if the small amount of Publicity helps her in some way. The Prize money is no incentive.
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I admit Denny's list is pretty good...
I personally would remove Corry Matthews & Stephanie Collins because they are just to new to be disappointing yet. It wasn't like they lit the NPC on fire on their way up, so they still need a chance to develop as a Pro.
Elaine Goodlad? That's just crazy putting her on the list... she was consistent Top 5 and higher for several years which is a damn good record... The main reason not to be on the list she WON the California Pro show in 2004.
I forgot about Ali McKnight and Jen Hartley... definitely they make the list.
Zena is a good one for the list since her placings just seem to keep sliding down.
Amy Peters, ok, extremely inconsistent placings, in that category I would also add Christine Wan.
Good list so far Denny... any more?
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And Lastly, I'm sorry but Elaine Goodlad????
Disappointment ain't never looked so GOOD!!!!!!!
Hey... You are married, act like it!!! Keep your perverted fantasies off this thread and put them in Dina's porno thread where they belong!
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I've always been a huge fan of Christine Wan too, she has a dynamite physique... and I think she is often overlooked for some reason.
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Hi Scooby.
I do agree with you, that I have not brought my potential best to the stage. Perhaps I came close last year when I was top five - twice. However, I've been busy being a full-time mother to a baby-turned-toddler. My priorities and focus have been elsewhere. My daughter is now just four and a half. I turned pro in 2003. Do the math.
As for Elaine...has everyone forgotten that she WON the California Pro in 2004? Only once, I think, did she place outside of the top ten. And that she is 43 YEARS OLD? If it seems like she is not competing up to her potential, then I would say it is by choice. Perhaps competing against women half her age and being judged onstage, in a bikini, by a panel of strangers, is not as appealing as it used to be when she was, say, in her late 30's (like me).
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Hi Scooby.
I do agree with you,
Glad you agree :-*
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Zena Collins never had potential. She had a few good finishes a couple years ago because she signed with that guy who dresses up like comic book characters..
Jen Searles went from like 15th place to top 5 the next show after she signed with him as well.
Elaine had a pretty good career. Extremely pretty.
Tara Scotti always placed high, but she has been training at Bev and Steve's for a long time.
Christine Wan can look good sometimes, but very inconsistent. Looks good 1 show, and terrible the next.
Our resident Dina Al Sabah was a threat back when Figure first started and there were only like 10 girls competing, but once she tried to get on stage with more competition, she was not even top 10 material in small shows. In her defense, she is 1 of the prettier girls on stage, and because she has a heavy internet presence, she is very popular. From what I heard from other people on this board, she is not as sociable in person as she seems in the online world. I guess none of are though.
Shannon M, ( can't spell her name ) her placings always seemed to baffle me.
I will report on more girls later....
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Zena Collins never had potential. She had a few good finishes a couple years ago because she signed with that guy who dresses up like comic book characters..
Jen Searles went from like 15th place to top 5 the next show after she signed with him as well.
Elaine had a pretty good career. Extremely pretty.
Tara Scotti always placed high, but she has been training at Bev and Steve's for a long time.
Christine Wan can look good sometimes, but very inconsistent. Looks good 1 show, and terrible the next.
Our resident Dina Al Sabah was a threat back when Figure first started and there were only like 10 girls competing, but once she tried to get on stage with more competition, she was not even top 10 material in small shows. In her defense, she is 1 of the prettier girls on stage, and because she has a heavy internet presence, she is very popular. From what I heard from other people on this board, she is not as sociable in person as she seems in the online world. I guess none of are though.
Shannon M, ( can't spell her name ) her placings always seemed to baffle me.
I will report on more girls later....
It's amusing how people find faults in those who place well. Tara is a no BS kinda girl and her placings were deserved.
Dina is sociable and anyone who isn't a social misfit would be able to have a conversation with her. Most people are much friendly in person than on the boards. If you didn't approach them with your photos of them from their last show in your 99 cent binder you might get a better response.
I'd say there are far more fitness pros that fail to reach their potential or are a disappointment in the pro ranks. There really hasn't been anyone who came out of the am. ranks and shook things up in the pros. Your top 5 contenders have been the same for a few years now.
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ME.... hahahaha and my reason for not wanting to continue...
1. I dont want to take the drugs..and granted that not every person is on them.. I doubt the top are not on anything.. I have been there and know the dealio
2. I rather make real money than fritter it away on 2k suits and the hope of winning the O which would net 20k.. when I could make that in a month.
Please let me know where I can also make 20k per month :)
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It's amusing how people find faults in those who place well. Tara is a no BS kinda girl and her placings were deserved.
Your right. I just like to give my opinions. And to play Devil's Advocate, I have never seen pictures of Tara on stage and out of shape. She is always in great shape. I just would have felt better about her placings if she didn't have any connection to the NPC/IFBB mafia. At least she didnt sign with "that weird guy"
If you didn't approach them with your photos of them from their last show in your 99 cent binder you might get a better response.
Isaac, don't sell me short. I buy the expensive trapper keepers to keep my photos in. And by the way, I banged more fitness pro's and bodybuilder chicks ( Before the Figure Days ) then you have designed websites..... But its all good. I still enjoy your rants on these forums........
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Your right. I just like to give my opinions. And to play Devil's Advocate, I have never seen pictures of Tara on stage and out of shape. She is always in great shape. I just would have felt better about her placings if she didn't have any connection to the NPC/IFBB mafia. At least she didnt sign with "that weird guy"
Isaac, don't sell me short. I buy the expensive trapper keepers to keep my photos in. And by the way, I banged more fitness pro's and bodybuilder chicks ( Before the Figure Days ) then you have designed websites..... But its all good. I still enjoy your rants on these forums........
What is they say about opinions.
Nice mid-80s reference wiht the trapper keeper. LMAO!
Congrats on your banging, I'm sure your mom would be proud.
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What is they say about opinions.
Nice mid-80s reference wiht the trapper keeper. LMAO!
Congrats on your banging, I'm sure your mom would be proud.
My mom would actually be repulsed by the things I have done with these fitness girls, but I sure am proud.
I will buy you a drink at the Olympia and I will tell you some stories.....
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I see this thread has degenerated into bangings and sexual exploits... get back on track boys! that goes for you too Denny
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Alexis Ellis is in School. She will return when Done. Alexis Competes to promote her business. She has only done two shows, and will do more!! if the small amount of Publicity helps her in some way. The Prize money is no incentive.
Tied for 16th and that's not good publicity.
More for your list
Alana Hernandez
Jennifer Becerra
Zhanna Rotar
Tammy Pies
Pauline Nordin
Karen Zaremba
Rebecca Rush
Sherie Salvadori
Shelley Taucher
Aleksandra Kobielak
Bridget Murray
Allison Daughtry
Sandra Wickham
Sandie Ward
Kristina Henn
Trish Mayberry
Madonna Grimes
Bethany Howlett
Jennifer Hanke
Karen Walcott
Brittany Thorsch
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More for your list
Alana Hernandez
Jennifer Becerra
Zhanna Rotar
Tammy Pies
Pauline Nordin
Karen Zaremba
Rebecca Rush
Sherie Salvadori
Shelley Taucher
Aleksandra Kobielak
Bridget Murray
Allison Daughtry
Sandra Wickham
Sandie Ward
Kristina Henn
Trish Mayberry
Madonna Grimes
Bethany Howlett
Jennifer Hanke
Karen Walcott
Brittany Thorsch
Damn Denny... I'm impressed, you are coming up with names that I had totally forgotten about.
- Zhanna Rotar might be a little too new and really unproven to include just yet.
- Jennifer Hanke was consistent top 5 in smaller shows (maybe a win) and has since retired
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Aleksandra did well in Europe.... and made it to the O. I think anyone making to the O more than once has done well... JMHO
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A beginning list of onstage disappointments:
Elaine Goodlad
Marcy Porter
Colette Flack
Michelle Flake
Ali McKnight
Jen Hartley
Melissa Frabbiele
Shelby Kadyk
Amy Peters
Heather Mae French
Corry Matthews
Liane Seiwald
Alexis Ellis
Zena Collins
Laura Sutter
Lisa Schaerer-Maloy
Stephanie Collins
Elizabeth Lamm
If that's your 'disappointment list', then I'd say the sport - and the industry as a whole - is in GREAT shape!
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I see this thread has degenerated into bangings and sexual exploits... get back on track boys! that goes for you too Denny
All of a sudden Dina is in love again, and she is a stick in the mud...........
Are we going to have to wait till next year when you get divorced again for you to lighten up ????
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JustaWanker
Not sure when I turned into gloom and doom.. even though according to you I am not personable..lol so lets keep it that way.
If you want to talk about bangings and another lewd things go to another board.. there is Sex Board.. this one is for discussing the competitions. You had some great contributions, though I dont think I ever competed in a show that only had ten people...lol However I will let you get away with that.
As for discussing personal matters regarding me getting divorced, that is uncalled for. Making fun of someones personal misfortunes is uncalled for and if you continue in that vein regarding me or anyone else I promise to use the magical delete button.
I have had the in love tag under my name for well over a year, and have been divorced for well over that... sorry to break it to you... not married again .. cant be divorced again
cheerio....
schools out.. back to play boys
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As for discussing personal matters regarding me getting divorced, that is uncalled for. Making fun of someones personal misfortunes is uncalled for and if you continue in that vein regarding me or anyone else I promise to use the magical delete button.
You are correct, and I apologize. I actually was really kidding and thought with your sense of humor, you would have laughed it off. But I am sorry I offended you.
I will stick to just my observations on the girls physiques.....
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Maybe more of the women would stick around if they were given incentive to do so.
Here are my top picks of those not meeting their anticipated potential.
1. The IFBB for not realizing it’s disrespectful, unequal treatment of women in the industry
is a “penny wise, pound foolish” way to operate.
2. Undermining any hope that the perception of the judging could be fair.
3. Justawanker for getting stuck in the spandex 80’s. Maybe if you had spent more time
worrying about how to work the camera instead of how to work the women you might
have a decent portfolio and websites to boot.
Scooby, maybe the words in your prentices should not be (gone, poof), but (got smart, “cha ching” not wasting my money or time now).
:-* Barbie
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leave it to MB to come here and tell us how she really feels... I miss you very much
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Ken is either not putting out or really giving Malibu some loven, I can't tell which.
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And Lastly, I'm sorry but Elaine Goodlad????
Disappointment ain't never looked so GOOD!!!!!!!
Agreed... Elaine should not be on that list... If only others could have her poise and grace and beauty.. plus she did well in the Pro Ranks and has tons of magazine coverage and knew there was more to life than being a hamster on the contest treadmill
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Speak on it Barbie, I miss you too! :-*
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Maybe more of the women would stick around if they were given incentive to do so.
Here are my top picks of those not meeting their anticipated potential.
1. The IFBB for not realizing it’s disrespectful, unequal treatment of women in the industry
is a “penny wise, pound foolish” way to operate.
2. Undermining any hope that the perception of the judging could be fair.
3. Justawanker for getting stuck in the spandex 80’s. Maybe if you had spent more time
worrying about how to work the camera instead of how to work the women you might
have a decent portfolio and websites to boot.
Scooby, maybe the words in your prentices should not be (gone, poof), but (got smart, “cha ching” not wasting my money or time now).
:-* Barbie
Good post Dina, I mean Malibu..... ( Sense of Humor )
MB, what did you mean by that, I am not a photographer.......
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Although I have competed a lot since turning pro, I can easilly understand why people would not. The IFBB is a COMPLETELY different world than the NPC. In order to participate in the IFBB (I use the word "participate" because you are no longer really "competing"), you have to swallow the fact that your hard work and talent will not necessarilly take you to the top. Maybe the girls on these lists figured this out before experiencing the dissapointment first hand. Those of us who choose to compete must do so with our own personal goals in mind-in my case competing gets my butt in shape each spring and I love to perform the routines. The current "system" forces me to no longer worry about placing.
I hope these girls on your list are healthy and happy with whatever they are doing, since many active IFBB competitors are not...
FYI....I competed with Bridget Murray twice the first season we were pros and she is competing at the next three shows this season so she needs to be knocked off the list. I can replace her since I am pregnant ;D but look for me next year.... ;)
Tied for 16th and that's not good publicity.
More for your list
Alana Hernandez
Jennifer Becerra
Zhanna Rotar
Tammy Pies
Pauline Nordin
Karen Zaremba
Rebecca Rush
Sherie Salvadori
Shelley Taucher
Aleksandra Kobielak
Bridget Murray
Allison Daughtry
Sandra Wickham
Sandie Ward
Kristina Henn
Trish Mayberry
Madonna Grimes
Bethany Howlett
Jennifer Hanke
Karen Walcott
Brittany Thorsch
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Although I have competed a lot since turning pro, I can easilly understand why people would not. The IFBB is a COMPLETELY different world than the NPC. In order to participate in the IFBB (I use the word "participate" because you are no longer really "competing"), you have to swallow the fact that your hard work and talent will not necessarilly take you to the top. Maybe the girls on these lists figured this out before experiencing the dissapointment first hand. Those of us who choose to compete must do so with our own personal goals in mind-in my case competing gets my butt in shape each spring and I love to perform the routines. The current "system" forces me to no longer worry about placing.
I hope these girls on your list are healthy and happy with whatever they are doing, since many active IFBB competitors are not...
FYI....I competed with Bridget Murray twice the first season we were pros and she is competing at the next three shows this season so she needs to be knocked off the list. I can replace her since I am pregnant ;D but look for me next year.... ;)
She's on the list because she's at the bottom with you. You're right, sorry, we forgot you on the list but you do belong.
"current system"? You democrats always complaining about something.
Denny Crane!
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Haven't been on the boards in a really long time...thanks for reminding me why. You are pathetic, but then again so is my responding to you ??? I will be sure to avoid posting anything that could possibly contradict your professional and very important opinion in the future. My most sincere apologies...
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Katie congrats on being preggo. There is something in the pro water later, lots of pregnancies this year.
Ignore the hatahs, they always come out and have something to say.
All the best.
Isaac
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Pauline Nordin
Stephanie Collins
Two pros with significant internet presence who have been overrated, disappointing busts.
Dina was always overrated in both looks and physique. If she has ways of making $20K a month, then more power to her. She would be an educated fool to waste time competing.
Jaime Franklin was hardly overrated based on her placings. Having a baby is a rather normal reason to "disappear" from the competition scene. She'll probably be back...
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Benny I am sure all of these ladies feel horrible that they have disappointed you. Some of the girls mentioned here are first year pro's and have only competed in 1 or 2 shows....so how does that make them a bust?
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There's many reason why many of us compete and end competing. Part of the reason why i personally stopped competing was for the gossiping nonsense like this. Unless you have your pro card or know what its like to compete you have absolutely no right to call myself or any other listed person on this thread a disappointment. Just to name a few that I know personally. Lisa Schaerer-Maloy- is a mother now, she has a family and a life. Some people like to and can manage competing when they have a family but others have different priorities. She trains people and continues to work and support the industry. Each of these girls are incredibly grounded and smart and don’t and haven’t competed for their self esteem they have competed for their personal goals and businesses. Not everyone in this industry wants to look like the top 5 girls. As we all know, the look of a physique is a personal opinion. The costs of competing as a pro cannot be maintained by many esp. if one has a family and other financial obligations. Elaine Goodlad is another. She accomplished HER goals. Sorry they did not match up to your expectations. She has won a pro title, place high in many. Grace numerous pages of magazines and has still maintained incredible beauty. Cory Matthews another. Hate to break it to you. Last time I talked to her was at a Max Muscle convention where she just started to prep for some fall shows while embarking on a business endeavor of opening her own max muscle store. Do you call this a disappointment?????? Alexis Ellis. Well David already covered her but i'll still say my 2 cents. She is one of the most hardworking gracious people I have ever met. Always willing to help others, runs a VERY successful business with David and is now going to school. As for myself. Turing pro was never about winning contests for me from day one when I was an amateur. I love the challenge of the training and preparation for show day. My main goal was to create a name and a business for myself to carry me on to much bigger and better things. I accomplished my goals once again sorry they did not live up to yours. I ran a successful total image consulting business with personal training, image consulting show prep ect. In my free time I worked with various charities, gave free seminars to high school children and shelters, as well as produced charity events to help launch my after school physical education programs. I now work over 50 hour work weeks as my father has Parkinson’s and I have taken over his business. That is why I am not competing anymore. If you would like me explain any other of your IFBB "disappointments" feel free to ask. Who said none of these girls wont step on stage when the time is right again. Last time I checked I am only 22
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Nice post Brittany, u rock!
(dont listen to the nerds who put out a fatwa from behind the keyboard)
Miss you babe!! ur a good sort :-*
check ur mail....theres a new Aussie in Vegas
:D
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There's many reason why many of us compete and end competing. Part of the reason why i personally stopped competing was for the gossiping nonsense like this. Unless you have your pro card or know what its like to compete you have absolutely no right to call myself or any other listed person on this thread a disappointment. Just to name a few that I know personally. Lisa Schaerer-Maloy- is a mother now, she has a family and a life. Some people like to and can manage competing when they have a family but others have different priorities. She trains people and continues to work and support the industry. Each of these girls are incredibly grounded and smart and don't and haven't competed for their self esteem they have competed for their personal goals and businesses. Not everyone in this industry wants to look like the top 5 girls. As we all know, the look of a physique is a personal opinion. The costs of competing as a pro cannot be maintained by many esp. if one has a family and other financial obligations. Elaine Goodlad is another. She accomplished HER goals. Sorry they did not match up to your expectations. She has won a pro title, place high in many. Grace numerous pages of magazines and has still maintained incredible beauty. Cory Matthews another. Hate to break it to you. Last time I talked to her was at a Max Muscle convention where she just started to prep for some fall shows while embarking on a business endeavor of opening her own max muscle store. Do you call this a disappointment?????? Alexis Ellis. Well David already covered her but I'll still say my 2 cents. She is one of the most hardworking gracious people I have ever met. Always willing to help others, runs a VERY successful business with David and is now going to school. As for myself. Turing pro was never about winning contests for me from day one when I was an amateur. I love the challenge of the training and preparation for show day. My main goal was to create a name and a business for myself to carry me on to much bigger and better things. I accomplished my goals once again sorry they did not live up to yours. I ran a successful total image consulting business with personal training, image consulting show prep etc. In my free time I worked with various charities, gave free seminars to high school children and shelters, as well as produced charity events to help launch my after school physical education programs. I now work over 50 hour work weeks as my father has Parkinson's and I have taken over his business. That is why I am not competing anymore. If you would like me explain any other of your IFBB "disappointments" feel free to ask. Who said none of these girls wont step on stage when the time is right again. Last time I checked I am only 22
Brittany!!!!! My Little FireCracker!!!, what are you doing slumming it on these message boards. Alexis and I miss you. Alexis Graduates in two weeks!!! Yeah!!!! I can't wait to get my training partner back!!! Give us a call Miss Overachiever.
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There's many reason why many of us compete and end competing. Part of the reason why i personally stopped competing was for the gossiping nonsense like this. Unless you have your pro card or know what its like to compete you have absolutely no right to call myself or any other listed person on this thread a disappointment. Just to name a few that I know personally. Lisa Schaerer-Maloy- is a mother now, she has a family and a life. Some people like to and can manage competing when they have a family but others have different priorities. She trains people and continues to work and support the industry. Each of these girls are incredibly grounded and smart and don’t and haven’t competed for their self esteem they have competed for their personal goals and businesses. Not everyone in this industry wants to look like the top 5 girls. As we all know, the look of a physique is a personal opinion. The costs of competing as a pro cannot be maintained by many esp. if one has a family and other financial obligations. Elaine Goodlad is another. She accomplished HER goals. Sorry they did not match up to your expectations. She has won a pro title, place high in many. Grace numerous pages of magazines and has still maintained incredible beauty. Cory Matthews another. Hate to break it to you. Last time I talked to her was at a Max Muscle convention where she just started to prep for some fall shows while embarking on a business endeavor of opening her own max muscle store. Do you call this a disappointment?????? Alexis Ellis. Well David already covered her but i'll still say my 2 cents. She is one of the most hardworking gracious people I have ever met. Always willing to help others, runs a VERY successful business with David and is now going to school. As for myself. Turing pro was never about winning contests for me from day one when I was an amateur. I love the challenge of the training and preparation for show day. My main goal was to create a name and a business for myself to carry me on to much bigger and better things. I accomplished my goals once again sorry they did not live up to yours. I ran a successful total image consulting business with personal training, image consulting show prep ect. In my free time I worked with various charities, gave free seminars to high school children and shelters, as well as produced charity events to help launch my after school physical education programs. I now work over 50 hour work weeks as my father has Parkinson’s and I have taken over his business. That is why I am not competing anymore. If you would like me explain any other of your IFBB "disappointments" feel free to ask. Who said none of these girls wont step on stage when the time is right again. Last time I checked I am only 22
Now that was a great post!