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Title: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Bluto on July 18, 2007, 08:09:21 AM
i dont know much about steroids, but i seem to recall people saying that if you used steroids, and get cancer or whatever, then the risk is higher because of steroid use. even if you used very little and a long time ago

something like that.

anyone know what im talking about and is there any truth to it  :)
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: musclehedz on July 18, 2007, 08:10:43 AM
Many cancer patients actually use steroids to live longer..
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 18, 2007, 09:01:47 AM
Many cancer patients actually use steroids to live longer..

more liberal bullshit
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: musclehedz on July 18, 2007, 09:05:52 AM
Check your local hospital.

Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 18, 2007, 09:15:26 AM
Check your local hospital.



For what reason? Why don't you tell me about global warming and universal healthcare?
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Knives on July 18, 2007, 10:02:59 AM
Many cancer patients actually use steroids to live longer..

that's what steroids were originally designed to do....
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Tapeworm on July 18, 2007, 10:16:52 AM
Prostate cancer maybe, but even that's debatable.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: bodybuildermdpitt on July 18, 2007, 11:10:08 AM
FYI: A recent study acually linked a higher rate of CNS (brain) tumors with even mild anabolic use, I'll try to find that paper. Cancer should be the least of you concerns from abusing steroids, your cardiovascular problems, from anabolics, will kill you first.

here you go:

Pharmacol Res. 2007 May;55(5):359-69. Epub 2007 Feb 3.

Doping with growth hormone/IGF-1, anabolic steroids or erythropoietin: is there a cancer risk?

Tentori L, Graziani G.
Department of Neuroscience, University of Rome Tor Vergata, Via Montpellier 1, 00133 Rome, Italy. tentori@uniroma2.it

Anabolic steroid and peptide hormones or growth factors are utilized to increase the performance of athletes of professional or amateur sports. Despite their well-documented adverse effects, the use of some of these agents has significantly grown and has been extended also to non-athletes with the aim to improve appearance or to counteract ageing. Pre-clinical studies and epidemiological observations in patients with an excess of hormone production or in patients chronically treated with hormones/growth factors for various pathologies have warned about the potential risk of cancer development and progression which may be also associated to the use of certain doping agents. Anabolic steroids have been described to provoke liver tumours; growth hormone or high levels of its mediator insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) have been associated with colon, breast, and prostate cancers. Actually, IGF-1 promotes cell cycle progression and inhibits apoptosis either by triggering other growth factors or by interacting with pathways which have an established role in carcinogenesis and cancer promotion. More recently, the finding that erythropoietin (Epo) may promote angiogenesis and inhibit apoptosis or modulate chemo- or radiosensitivity in cancer cells expressing the Epo receptor, raised the concern that the use of recombinant Epo to increase tissue oxygenation might favour tumour survival and aggressiveness. Cancer risk associated to doping might be higher than that of patients using hormones/growth factors as replacement therapy, since enormous doses are taken by the athletes often for a long period of time. Moreover, these substances are often used in combination with other licit or illicit drugs and this renders almost unpredictable all the possible adverse effects including cancer. Anyway, athletes should be made aware that long-term treatment with doping agents might increase the risk of developing cancer.

Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Disgusted on July 18, 2007, 12:06:41 PM
No, but knowing someone who uses them does.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: JasonH on July 18, 2007, 12:22:04 PM
Dorian used to say that taking gear is pretty much like anything else that harms your body - it's a bit like smoking - you don't know if you'll still be puffing away at 80, or speaking through a tube at 30.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: triple_pickle on July 18, 2007, 01:33:14 PM
what does not cause cancer these days?
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: climber on July 18, 2007, 01:38:12 PM
what does not cause cancer these days?

Xanax
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: big L dawg on July 18, 2007, 01:52:57 PM
For what reason? Why don't you tell me about global warming and universal healthcare?

typical republican to turn every thread topic into some political issue.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Bluto on July 18, 2007, 02:05:21 PM
im not taking about what cause cancer etc im talking about that doing steroids might accelerate things if you get some kinda tumor or disease

not sure where i picked this up but if anyone heard something along those lines feel free to post

Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: j3di3 on July 18, 2007, 02:15:22 PM
did you just miss bodybuildermdpitt's post?
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Bluto on July 18, 2007, 02:16:54 PM
did you just miss bodybuildermdpitt's post?

no it was good but i'd like to hear more  :)
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: tweeter on July 18, 2007, 03:32:17 PM
That guy in the Valentino documentary, "The Man Whose Arms Exploded", says that even if you only use steriods once in the distant past, it stays in your body your whole life and keeps multiplying in your cells and you can eventually die years down the road.

Discuss...
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: musclehedz on July 18, 2007, 04:15:46 PM
more liberal bullshit

I hate liberals. Go Bush!
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Master Blaster on July 18, 2007, 04:19:10 PM
you can eventually die years down the road.

Discuss...

I hear thats going around.  ;)
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: BayGBM on July 18, 2007, 04:27:31 PM
HGH?  Yes, I believe it does.  :'(
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Bluto on July 18, 2007, 04:27:52 PM
That guy in the Valentino documentary, "The Man Whose Arms Exploded", says that even if you only use steriods once in the distant past, it stays in your body your whole life and keeps multiplying in your cells and you can eventually die years down the road.

Discuss...

yes! i think it's from there i got it from

wonder if that is true

Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: tweeter on July 18, 2007, 04:43:59 PM
yes! i think it's from there i got it from

wonder if that is true


I am sure he was probably exaggerating a great deal and is just bitter that he was one of the people who suffered ill health effects from juicing.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: CARTEL on July 18, 2007, 04:57:48 PM
Steroids turn you gay.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Earl1972 on July 18, 2007, 05:00:35 PM
some say too much vitamin C or E could cause cancer

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Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Wombat on July 19, 2007, 02:07:29 AM
nanotechnology will be the next industrial revolution and probably within the next couple decades little tiny nano computer chips will be available for the rich to have put in the body to do sweeps that knock out any cancer that may be present...

This of course will come after the 2012 destruction of most societies and we move into a true golden age...Unfortunatley most of us will not be around to see it...
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: Bluto on July 19, 2007, 02:09:16 AM
will we be able to read bout it on get big, general topics board?
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: musclehedz on July 19, 2007, 05:11:24 AM
A lot of people would die sooner without steroids. Think about burn victems etc.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: WhiteCastle on July 19, 2007, 05:54:24 PM
my moms a nurse on a cancer ward and she injects patients with deca on a daily basis,  dumbass

Yeah, but this is after they get chemo or the tumor cut out, right? 

I don't know about this, but if you have a bad mutation in a msucle that steroids can increase, then I don't see why it wouldn't increase the cancerous cell accumulation rate.  I'm sure this had been basically answered definitively before.  Someone has to have looked at this.
Title: Re: does steroids enhance the risks of cancer etc
Post by: suckmymuscle on July 19, 2007, 05:58:38 PM
i dont know much about steroids, but i seem to recall people saying that if you used steroids, and get cancer or whatever, then the risk is higher because of steroid use. even if you used very little and a long time ago

something like that.

anyone know what im talking about and is there any truth to it  :)

  Specific types of steroids increase the risk of developing specific types of cancer.

  Example: 17-alpha-alkylated steroids, like oxymetholone and stanozolol, increase the risk one developing hepatic cancer.

  Steroids that get converted into dihidrotestosterone, like testosterone derivatives, increase the risk of prostate cancer.

SUCKMYMUSCLE