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SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK. Vick is due in federal court in Richmond, Va., for a bond hearing before U.S. Magistrate Judge Dennis Dohnal at 3:30 p.m. and an arraignment at 4p.m. before U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson.
WHAT YOU CAN DO: Contact the Judges and tell them you SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK!
Here is how:
Hon. Dennis W. Dohnal
United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2270
Hon. Henry E. Hudson United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2290
CALL NOW AND SUPPORT NO BAIL FOR MICHAEL VICK.
It only takes a second to send a message.
Read here the entire Indictment http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/...
on how Michael Vick brutally tortured and murdered these dogs, including electrocution, beating to death by slamming to the ground, hanging, choking and shooting mercilessly.
Michael Vick Indicted
Feds: Falcons QB, cohorts executed pit bulls that failed fight tests
JULY 17--NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. A copy of the indictment, filed today in U.S. District Court in Richmond, can be found below. The 27-year-old Vick, whose nickname is listed as "Ookie" in the indictment, allegedly established the Bad Newz Kennels in early-2001 in Smithfield, Virginia. It was this property, for which Vick paid $34,000, that the star athlete and his codefendants used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture and hosting dog fights." According to prosecutors, Vick and his cohorts began purchasing pit bull puppies in late-2001 and would eventually "sponsor" individual dog fights with purses as high as $26,000. In the indictment's most harrowing parts, federal investigators describe what happened to some Bad Newz Kennels dogs that either lost matches or did not perform well in test fights. After a March 2003 loss by a female pit bull, codefendant Purnell Peace, "after consulting with Vick," electrocuted the animal. In April, prosecutors allege, Vick, Peace, and Quanis Phillips, "executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions." These animals, the indictment claims, were killed "by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." (more)
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arn't there more important things in the world to worry about then dogfighting?
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arn't there more important things in the world to worry about then dogfighting?
Yep.
CALL PELOSI 202-225-0100: PUT IMPEACHMENT BACK ON THE TABLE
AdamAbeles submitted 7 days ago (www.youtube.com)
Make a quick call to Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi`s office, 202-225-0100 and tell her to put impeachment BACK on the table. Give her to July 23rd. The more people that call, the more action WILL take place. Pick up your phone NOW and take a few minutes to leave a message. It only takes a second. MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!!! ACT NOW!!!!
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Yep.
CALL PELOSI 202-225-0100: PUT IMPEACHMENT BACK ON THE TABLE
AdamAbeles submitted 7 days ago (www.youtube.com)
Make a quick call to Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi`s office, 202-225-0100 and tell her to put impeachment BACK on the table. Give her to July 23rd. The more people that call, the more action WILL take place. Pick up your phone NOW and take a few minutes to leave a message. It only takes a second. MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!!! ACT NOW!!!!
what do u do all day??
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arn't there more important things in the world to worry about then dogfighting?
Sure there are more important things, but that is not to say that it isn't a very important issue. This position is really hard for me to defend since I'm not a vegetarian, but I feel pretty strongly about it. You should see how poorly they treat these animals.
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http://thetrueadonis.blogspot.com/2007/07/support-no-bail-for-michael-vick.html
I thought u were a little more enlightened than this :-\
Can u argue Adam that man is not inherently violent by nature. Shall we repress this like the christians repress sex and life?? Shall we weep for every poor fly killed??
Like I said before in another thread the Romans were much healthier in their perspective of life, death and sex. They were not the repressed pussies that modern society has made us.
Bring back the Arena!! Let men and beast fight to the death. Let us celebrate the warrior that lurks in every man instead of denying our very nature.
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http://thetrueadonis.blogspot.com/2007/07/support-no-bail-for-michael-vick.html
Funny how you would support no bail for Vick but would probably have no problem setting bail for a pedo!
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I thought u were a little more enlightened than this :-\
Can u argue Adam that man is not inherently violent by nature. Shall we repress this like the christians repress sex and life?? Shall we weep for every poor fly killed??
Like I said before in another thread the Romans were much healthier in their perspective of life, death and sex. They were not the repressed pussies that modern society has made us.
Bring back the Arena!! Let men and beast fight to the death. Let us celebrate the warrior that lurks in every man instead of denying our very nature.
LET'S STRART WITH TORTURING YOU BUD >:(
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LET'S STRART WITH TORTURING YOU BUD >:(
haha----------trash like u would be thrown in the arena for my entertainment
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what do u do all day??
if only you knew.......
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haha----------trash like u would be thrown in the arena for my entertainment
OK QUEEN :)
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arn't there more important things in the world to worry about then dogfighting?
Ignoring people who force dogs to fight till the death is not important at all? People who get off on watching two animals kill one another for there entertainment is no biggie? How about people who torture and kill dogs when they have to good a nature to be top notch fighters ? A lot of serial killers started out torturing and killing animals. Takes a f ed up personality to slam a innocent dog on the ground until dead. How about electrocuting one since it was not game enough to fight till the death on command. Those are a few of the horrific crimes Ron shitbag is accused off.
That is perfectly normal behavior for one of the faces of the biggest sport in America ::)
Dog fighting is a brutal and horric act. If you saw one of these dogs laying there gasping for breath with no ears and half its face ripped of you might understand why this is not ok. They didnt ask to die in a pool of there own blood and guts. They do it to "please" there master. Who just so happens to be a twisted degenrate.
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OK QUEEN :)
well, gauging from the intellectual complexity of your responses its clear you are truly trash :-*
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This thread sucks!!
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Adonis, Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is unbelievable anyone do this sort of thing. I say lock him up for good.
I have done the email and call, and anyone else here who cares about animals or civility should do the same. At least do the email, it doesn't take much time at all.
It is important the message gets out that cruelity to animals is unacceptable in our society.
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Ignoring people who force dogs to fight till the death is not important at all. People who get off on watching two animals kill one another is no biggie. Same thing with people who torture and kill dogs when they have to good a nature to be top notch fighters ::) A lot of serial killers started out torturing and killing animals. Takes a f ed up personality to slam a innocent dog on the ground until dead. How about electrocuting one since it was not game enough to fight till the death on command. Those are a few of the horrific crimes Ron shitbag is accused off.
That is perfectly normal behavior for one of the faces of the biggest sport in America ::)
there are differnt degrees to each----torturing is just malicous in nature and born out or repression or some kind of trauma
dog fighting is usually a cultural phenomanom----------something that has a long long history dating back farther than the roman times
agree with it or not humans will ALWAYS fight some kind of beasts and engage in combat themselves----this is human nature--------this is the way its been for thousands of years and the way it will be.
with this being said I love dogs and would never ever fight my dogs----but if someone wants to breed their dogs to fight then i could care less-----making it organized like in the roman times or like in some other countries (russia for example has organized dog fights and they are less violent) will get rid of these heinous actions like electrocution etc...
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hahahaha, imagine how many times this piece of shit is going to get raped in jail, especially by dog lovers? ;D I don't look at it as eye for an eye, but rather as crime and punishment and he more than deserves it for what he did. There are times when things like that or things like the death penalty ARE appropriate. In general I am against them because they are often applied incorrectly, but this is not one of those times.
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hahahaha, imagine how many times this piece of shit is going to get raped in jail, especially by dog lovers? ;D I don't look at it as eye for an eye, but rather as crime and punishment and he more than deserves it for what he did. There are times when things like that or things like the death penalty ARE appropriate. In general I am against them because they are applied incorrectly, but this is not one of those times.
he's already an icon for the criminal mind, he'll be a star in the slammer.
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there are differnt degrees to each----torturing is just malicous in nature and born out or repression or some kind of trauma
dog fighting is usually a cultural phenomanom----------something that has a long long history dating back farther than the roman times
agree with it or not humans will ALWAYS fight some kind of beasts and engage in combat themselves----this is human nature--------this is the way its been for thousands of years and the way it will be.
with this being said I love dogs and would never ever fight my dogs----but if someone wants to breed their dogs to fight then i could care less-----making it organized like in the roman times or like in some other countries (russia for example has organized dog fights and they are less violent) will get rid of these heinous actions like electrocution etc...
Just because it was done at one time doesn't mean a civilized society should condone it and allow it to continue.
The dogs involved are not treated well by any measure. Many of them are given steroids to make them more aggressive. The ones that don't perform well are abandoned or killed.
You also have to realize the major incentive in this is MONEY or even prestige or status.
Where ever there is profit to make using animals you can be sure the animals are not being treated well.
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hahahaha, imagine how many times this piece of shit is going to get raped in jail, especially by dog lovers? ;D I don't look at it as eye for an eye, but rather as crime and punishment and he more than deserves it for what he did. There are times when things like that or things like the death penalty ARE appropriate. In general I am against them because they are applied incorrectly, but this is not one of those times.
are u an idiot-----------have u ever been to jail boy---do u realize how popular dog fighting is amongst people you would never hang out with since your white and privelaged
like clinton portis said dog fighting is more of a cultural thing to certain people and most people on the outside wouldnt understand
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are u an idiot-----------have u ever been to jail boy---do u realize how popular dog fighting is amongst people you would never hang out with since your white and privelaged
like clinton portis said dog fighting is more of a cultural thing to certain people and most people on the outside wouldnt understand
maybe he wouldn't hang out with them cause he has class not just cause he's white.....
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Just because it was done at one time doesn't mean a civilized society should condone it and allow it to continue.
The dogs involved are not treated well by any measure. Many of them are given steroids to make them more aggressive. The ones that don't perform well are abandoned or killed.
You also have to realize the major incentive in this is MONEY or even prestige or status.
Where ever there is profit to make using animals you can be sure the animals are not being treated well.
your not replying to my arguement :-\
do u not agree man is inherently violent by nature-----------------if since the dawn of time men have fought dogs then is it really something so horrible or is it a combination of the nature of a human and a violent carnivorous beast.
dogs like to fight and kill
some men are lambs-------some are lions
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Someone ought to throw Vick into the ring with one of those pitbulls, or 10 of them.
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Whats wrong with it, dogs like to fight, they see it as a sport.
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Someone ought to throw Vick into the ring with one of those pitbulls, or 10 of them.
see there u go
now thats somethiing I could agree with
bring back the ARENA!!
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Whats wrong with it, dogs like to fight, they see it as a sport.
exactly
do u really think that every dog is like martha stewart
are there not dogs just like Mike Tyson or Fedor---these people live for combat-----
you are an idiot if u think there are not dogs with personailities like the full contact human fighters
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like clinton portis said dog fighting is more of a cultural thing to certain people and most people on the outside wouldnt understand
Just because something is "cultural" doesnt make it ok. Whites used to see it as being "cultural" to have blacks as slaves. That hardly makes it ok. Horrible argument by mr.portis
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are u an idiot-----------have u ever been to jail boy---do u realize how popular dog fighting is amongst people you would never hang out with since your white and privelaged
like clinton portis said dog fighting is more of a cultural thing to certain people and most people on the outside wouldnt understand
I never said it wasn't popular, but there are also a lot of criminals who are dog lovers. Think about all the drug dealers who have pitbulls or rottweilers to secure their homes. No doubt a lot of them grow to love their dogs and are against cruelty towards them. Lastly, "it's cultural" is no excuse for how these dogs are treated. Just because I am white and middle class doesn't mean myself and people like me are the only ones capable of treating animals with some modicum of respect or care.
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exactly
do u really think that every dog is like martha stewart
are there not dogs just like Mike Tyson or Fedor---these people live for combat-----
you are an idiot if u think there are not dogs with personailities like the full contact human fighters
you idiot..dogs don't have PERSONalities ::)
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maybe he wouldn't hang out with them cause he has class not just cause he's white.....
no i say this because he's the typical moral grandstanding snob who doesnt understand what its like to fight and grind growing up--these things make u respect strength and the will to destroy those who would destroy you
prolly never been in a fight in his life
he could never understand
like I said before some men are lambs-------some are lions
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In my hood if you don't dog fight you ain't shit beatch!!
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you idiot..dogs don't have PERSONalities ::)
your responses become more absurd each time
obviously you've never owned a dog
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Adonis, I was emailed by a Court rep in Henrico and he said the case is going to be moved to the Federal Court in Richmond.
U.S. COURTHOUSE
1100 E. MAIN ST. RICHMOND, VA 23219
PHONE: 804-916-2700
Cant find email
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Dogfighting = I'm too much of a pussy to fight myself so I'll try to act like a badass by having my dog fight.
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Michael Vick will leave the country.
Strategic enough to design and build his home specifically for dogfighting hosting.
Rich enough to have millions in liquid cash onhand.
Crazy enough to choke a dog to death with his bare hands.
And a terrible longterm thinker (leaving 60 dog carcasses under his home - brilliant!)
While OJ and other did the math and took chances with justice system, I'm wondering if Vick might pick up baby brother on the pvt jet and just spend ten years in Amsterdam smoking weed instead of dealing with being one of the most hated men in America for the next 5 years (and the thought of incarceration/ losing it all).
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"I'm sorry, this case is not being handled through the Henrico Courts. I believe it's being handled through the federal courts in the city of Richmond.
Thank you.
Romaine Cheney"
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your responses become more absurd each time
obviously you've never owned a dog
haha what an idiot. dogs are not persons. therefore dont have personalities. they are animals. what animal has a personality? you been watchin too many cartoons again?
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Dogfighting = I'm too much of a pussy to fight myself so I'll try to act like a badass by having my dog fight.
WINNER BINGO END OF THREAD!
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haha what an idiot. dogs are not persons. therefore dont have personalities. they are animals. what animal has a personality? you been watchin too many cartoons again?
Call it whatever the fuck you want, if you've ever had a dog you'd know what the fuck people mean when they say personality.
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haha what an idiot. dogs are not persons. therefore dont have personalities. they are animals. what animal has a personality? you been watchin too many cartoons again?
so there is no differnce in the personality of a bichon frise and a pitbull??
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your not replying to my arguement :-\
do u not agree man is inherently violent by nature-----------------if since the dawn of time men have fought dogs then is it really something so horrible or is it a combination of the nature of a human and a violent carnivorous beast.
dogs like to fight and kill
some men are lambs-------some are lions
nonsense, this is an organized commercial business that manipulates the psychie of these dogs for entertainment and wealth. The animals are harmed and injured and killed for absolutely no other reason.
Also The animals are bred, trained and medicated to be aggressive. This is animal exploitation at its highest.
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Call it whatever the fuck you want, if you've ever had a dog you'd know what the fuck people mean when they say personality.
bump
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nonsense, this is an organized commercial business that manipulates the psychie of these dogs for entertainment and wealth. The animals are harmed and injured and killed for absolutely no other reason.
Also The animals are bred, trained and medicated to be aggressive. This is animal exploitation at its highest.
it doesnt have to manipulate them---------some encourage but the nature of some of these dogs, like professional fighters, is to fight and engage in combat. like some people this is what makes them happiest in life
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I rarely hope injury to any athlete, or any person for that matter, but If Vick doesnt get convicted, I hope someone makes a conscious effort to put him out of the NFL for good.
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amen
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it doesnt have to manipulate them---------some encourage but the nature of some of these dogs, like professional fighters, is to fight and engage in combat. like some people this is what makes them happiest in life
Im no dog expert, but it is my understanding that dog personalities are a result of breeding and training over 100's of years. If this is the case, then it is humans who have caused dogs such as pitbulls to be so violent, not nature.
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Im sure their are some good dogfighters handlers out their and some bad ones, that ruin dogfighting for all the dogs that want to do it.
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Im sure their are some good dogfighters handlers out their and some bad ones, that ruin dogfighting for all the dogs that want to do it.
I suppose the good dogfight hanlders step in when an ear or nose gets torn off and don't let it continue until one of the animals actually die::) Any dogfighting for entertainment is unacceptable.
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Im no dog expert, but it is my understanding that dog personalities are a result of breeding and training over 100's of years. If this is the case, then it is humans who have caused dogs such as pitbulls to be so violent, not nature.
they are descended from wolves idiot-----------are u saying wolves arent violent by nature
wolves live and learn through violence---their social structure is a harsh world where many times the alpha dog is replaced by another when he or she is killed by the challenger
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Adonis has a blog now hahahah
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Adonis has a blog now hahahah
hahah JJ give us a personal summary of the blog--------------------
whats the verdict??
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they are descended from wolves idiot-----------are u saying wolves arent violent by nature
wolves live and learn through violence---their social structure is a harsh world where many times the alpha dog is replaced by another when he or she is killed by the challenger
Ok, if all dogs are descendants of wolves, then how do you explain the personality differences among breeds.
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Ok, if all dogs are descendants of wolves, then how do you explain the personality differences among breeds.
extreme breeding----------thousands of years of breeding
but still at heart teh dog is a wolf----a creature that is violent and lives and dies in battle and their social structure represents this
this is the origin of the dog
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the email address to the courts is the wrong address...
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extreme breeding----------thousands of years of breeding
but still at heart teh dog is a wolf----a creature that is violent and lives and dies in battle and their social structure represents this
this is the origin of the dog
I'd be curious to see what happends if you put 2 golden retrievers, or collies, or black labs into a ring together. I highly doubt they would do battle!! Man made pitbulls the way they are today, and they continue the trend with this kind of abuse.
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I'd be curious to see what happends if you put 2 golden retrievers, or collies, or black labs into a ring together. I highly doubt they would do battle!! Man made pitbulls the way they are today, and they continue the trend with this kind of abuse.
yes but my point was that we dociled teh origins of the breed in retreivers and other dogs with those natures not the other way around
the origin and original nature of the dog was a wolf which is a violent animal in which its social system dictates and demands that the strongest kill the weakest
you have it twisted around
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yes but my point was that we dociled teh origins of the breed in retreivers and other dogs with those natures not the other way around
the origin and original nature of the dog was a wolf which is a violent animal in which its social system dictates and demands that the strongest kill the weakest
you have it twisted around
Ah, i see. Point well made. I don't know that much about wolves or dogfighting, but im wondering if you put two wolves in a cage, would they ALWAYS fight like these pitbulls do. It is my understanding that wolves fight over territory and breeding rights.
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Ah, i see. Point well made. I don't know that much about wolves or dogfighting, but im wondering if you put two wolves in a cage, would they ALWAYS fight like these pitbulls do. It is my understanding that wolves fight over territory and breeding rights.
it depends on wether one is submissive or not-----like people, some wolves are more aggresive than others---but wolves do fight regularly and some are just down right malicous in their brutality
my friend owns a wolf-dog mix and it is very aggresive with other dogs which is all the wolf cause its half husky which are very friendly dogs
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SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK. Vick is due in federal court in Richmond, Va., for a bond hearing before U.S. Magistrate Judge Dennis Dohnal at 3:30 p.m. and an arraignment at 4p.m. before U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson.
WHAT YOU CAN DO: Contact the Judges and tell them you SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK!
Here is how:
Hon. Dennis W. Dohnal
United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2270
Hon. Henry E. Hudson United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2290
CALL NOW AND SUPPORT NO BAIL FOR MICHAEL VICK.
It only takes a second to send a message.
Read here the entire Indictment http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/...
on how Michael Vick brutally tortured and murdered these dogs, including electrocution, beating to death by slamming to the ground, hanging, choking and shooting mercilessly.
Michael Vick Indicted
Feds: Falcons QB, cohorts executed pit bulls that failed fight tests
JULY 17--NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. A copy of the indictment, filed today in U.S. District Court in Richmond, can be found below. The 27-year-old Vick, whose nickname is listed as "Ookie" in the indictment, allegedly established the Bad Newz Kennels in early-2001 in Smithfield, Virginia. It was this property, for which Vick paid $34,000, that the star athlete and his codefendants used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture and hosting dog fights." According to prosecutors, Vick and his cohorts began purchasing pit bull puppies in late-2001 and would eventually "sponsor" individual dog fights with purses as high as $26,000. In the indictment's most harrowing parts, federal investigators describe what happened to some Bad Newz Kennels dogs that either lost matches or did not perform well in test fights. After a March 2003 loss by a female pit bull, codefendant Purnell Peace, "after consulting with Vick," electrocuted the animal. In April, prosecutors allege, Vick, Peace, and Quanis Phillips, "executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions." These animals, the indictment claims, were killed "by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." (more)
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SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK. Vick is due in federal court in Richmond, Va., for a bond hearing before U.S. Magistrate Judge Dennis Dohnal at 3:30 p.m. and an arraignment at 4p.m. before U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson.
WHAT YOU CAN DO: Contact the Judges and tell them you SUPPORT NO BAIL for MICHAEL VICK!
Here is how:
Hon. Dennis W. Dohnal
United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2270
Hon. Henry E. Hudson United States District Court, Eastern Virginia Phone: (804) 916-2290
CALL NOW AND SUPPORT NO BAIL FOR MICHAEL VICK.
It only takes a second to send a message.
Read here the entire Indictment http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/...
on how Michael Vick brutally tortured and murdered these dogs, including electrocution, beating to death by slamming to the ground, hanging, choking and shooting mercilessly.
Michael Vick Indicted
Feds: Falcons QB, cohorts executed pit bulls that failed fight tests
JULY 17--NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. A copy of the indictment, filed today in U.S. District Court in Richmond, can be found below. The 27-year-old Vick, whose nickname is listed as "Ookie" in the indictment, allegedly established the Bad Newz Kennels in early-2001 in Smithfield, Virginia. It was this property, for which Vick paid $34,000, that the star athlete and his codefendants used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture and hosting dog fights." According to prosecutors, Vick and his cohorts began purchasing pit bull puppies in late-2001 and would eventually "sponsor" individual dog fights with purses as high as $26,000. In the indictment's most harrowing parts, federal investigators describe what happened to some Bad Newz Kennels dogs that either lost matches or did not perform well in test fights. After a March 2003 loss by a female pit bull, codefendant Purnell Peace, "after consulting with Vick," electrocuted the animal. In April, prosecutors allege, Vick, Peace, and Quanis Phillips, "executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions." These animals, the indictment claims, were killed "by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." (more)
Again, you will support a no bail for Vick but have no problem setting bail for a pedo?
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Again, you will support a no bail for Vick but have no problem setting bail for a pedo?
they're both scumbags and terrible people but you're right in that crimes against people are far worse than crimes against animals.