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Title: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 19, 2007, 11:33:40 AM
Would you ever describe yourself as a bodybuilder to people?  I wouldn't...too much stigma attached.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:35:03 AM
Good point. Sadly, most people are so ignorant.....they just assume the worst.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Monster_Everything on July 19, 2007, 11:38:47 AM
I would but I dont want people treating me like a gay male whore with a below average IQ with a propensity for using needles..
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:42:15 AM
no because you would have to look the part while fully clothed

if you look skinny you shouldn't tell people you are a bodybuilder

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Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Monster_Everything on July 19, 2007, 11:42:57 AM
no because you would have to look the part while fully clothed

if you look skinny you shouldn't tell people you are a bodybuilder

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what do people call you when they see some guy walking around with posing trunks in thier mouth ?
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:44:48 AM
no because you would have to look the part while fully clothed

if you look skinny you shouldn't tell people you are a bodybuilder

E

I know what you mean. However, not everyone wants to look like a freak.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Monster_Everything on July 19, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
someone said that they used to train with Lee Labrada and he was fully clothed and what not, looked very small compared to the other guys but when it was pose down time he blew them away.......














So after the guys thanked Lee for going down on them he posed with them too
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 19, 2007, 11:51:51 AM
I know what you mean. However, not everyone wants to look like a freak.

true but people will expect you to look the part no matter what you are wearing so it's better not to say you are a bodybuilder, that is if you worry about what others think :)

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Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Tapeworm on July 19, 2007, 11:54:40 AM
I pursue muscle gain, fat loss, and healthy living in order to maximize my physical potential, so yes, I am a bodybuilder.  

Tell these one-foot-in-the-grave muscle-before-health freaks to find their own word for what they do.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: gordiano on July 19, 2007, 11:57:30 AM
true but people will expect you to look the part no matter what you are wearing so it's better not to say you are a bodybuilder, that is if you worry about what others think :)

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Yeah, I hear ya. I never say it anyways. People are usually like, "do you work out" or "you must lift weights", and I just say "a little".


Anyone who knows me will tell you that I walk around in longsleeves & pants year round. I'm not looking for attention (not that I'm anything special, mind you), but I personally think it's pathetic when someone with some muscle walks around in a wifebeater year round, trying to get attention. Talk about insecure......
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Fulgorre on July 19, 2007, 12:57:50 PM
Save it for the girls.  They will believe anything even if you are 150 lbs she will believe you might be on roids and have competed numerous times haha!

Also, while you are at it, throw in the old "I used to be in the Special Forces" line!  When girls talk about dates or men in their lives, it is only a matter of time till I hear the special forces bit. LOL!  And they believe it! 
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Dorian01 on July 19, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
I do, and then they laugh.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Mat on July 19, 2007, 04:52:24 PM
Good question - I never say I am a bodybuilder. I think people have that sterotypical idea in their head that a bodybuilder automatically mean's you take steroids.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: CARTEL on July 19, 2007, 04:57:08 PM
Why would anybody that wasn't making money off of it, claim to be a bodybuilder?

Do any of you guys have any business cards with a bodybuilder title on it?
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on July 19, 2007, 05:12:48 PM
Would you ever describe yourself as a bodybuilder to people?  I wouldn't...too much stigma attached.
Im embarrased to say im a bodybuilder because im too small  :-\
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Al-Gebra on July 19, 2007, 05:17:27 PM

no shiftedshapes thread is complete w/o


(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/07/dog01.jpg)

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/07/dog02.jpg)

in your face, 100 pound dumbbell curls.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: mesmorph78 on July 19, 2007, 05:27:04 PM
nope.. i may look like a bb
in person
but i'm a lifter..
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: EbBnFlO on July 19, 2007, 05:51:26 PM
I would but I dont want people treating me like a gay male whore with a below average IQ with a propensity for using needles..


Haha i like that   ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 19, 2007, 07:41:01 PM
i hate to quote frank sepe but i will:

"if u can't see your top 4 abs YOU ARE NOT A BODYBUILDER. You are a fat guy that lifts weights"

end of story.

(does that mean i am a bodybuilder at the moment?...and unqualified 'FUCK NO!')
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Alex23 on July 19, 2007, 07:43:13 PM
I would but I dont want people treating me like a gay male whore with a below average IQ with a propensity for using needles..

Agree. Being an asian bottom boy craving to be loved by the white man is indeed enough for you.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 19, 2007, 08:23:24 PM
Would you ever describe yourself as a bodybuilder to people?  I wouldn't...too much stigma attached.

Ask Bob Chicherillo
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 19, 2007, 08:24:43 PM
I would but I dont want people treating me like a gay male whore with a below average IQ with a propensity for using needles..

Ask Bob Chicherillo, not only he's a bb he represents them!!!.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: The Ugly on July 19, 2007, 08:36:41 PM
Sadly, most people are so ignorant.....they just assume the worst.

Sadly, they mostly assume right.

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: alexxx on July 19, 2007, 08:37:41 PM
Yes. I introduce myself as Alexander the Great Champion Bodybuilder.

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Chick on July 19, 2007, 08:41:35 PM
Ask Bob Chicherillo, not only he's a bb he represents them!!!.

Whats your point?
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 19, 2007, 08:47:18 PM
Whats your point?

yo chick wat is ur opinion on frank sepe's statement: "if u can't see your top 4 abs YOU ARE NOT A BODYBUILDER. You are a fat guy that lifts weights"

i agree with it. he made it years ago in musclemag in response to a fan question.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Chick on July 19, 2007, 09:03:58 PM
I generally agree, except that using the term "bodybuilder" for anyone who lifs weights is ludicrious....

There are different types of bodybuilders...pro's, amateurs, people who "bodybuild", etc....

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 19, 2007, 09:06:30 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 19, 2007, 09:15:15 PM
I generally agree, except that using the term "bodybuilder" for anyone who lifs weights is ludicrious....

There are different types of bodybuilders...pro's, amateurs, people who "bodybuild", etc....



cool thanks for answering man.

also love ur statement: "sometimes you get the elevator, somtimes the shaft" haha.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 19, 2007, 10:21:02 PM
no shiftedshapes thread is complete w/o


(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/07/dog01.jpg)

(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2007/07/dog02.jpg)

in your face, 100 pound dumbbell curls.

Yes you know how to make me smile.  Please my birthday is approaching, somebody please find me a Bully pup to adopt.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 19, 2007, 10:22:25 PM
Yes. I introduce myself as Alexander the Great Champion Bodybuilder.



oh boy, if only this were true.  I can't even imagine the reactions that you would get.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: shiftedShapes on July 19, 2007, 10:24:56 PM
Im embarrased to say im a bodybuilder because im too small  :-\

I basically agree with you here, shirted and unpumped I just look thin.  I imagine the same is true for you.

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: christinafitness on July 20, 2007, 10:53:01 AM
The bodybuilders I know are usually very positive people.
On this board everybody seems to be very negative about anything.
That might add to the negativity towards bodybuilding.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: gordiano on July 20, 2007, 11:02:53 AM
The bodybuilders I know are usually very positive people.
On this board everybody seems to be very negative about anything.
That might add to the negativity towards bodybuilding.

Oh brother.......I bet you watch Dr. Phil......
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: alexxx on July 20, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
Oh brother.......I bet you watch Dr. Phil......

Why you say that? Are you going to be on an upcomming episode?

"Milos stole my thunder"
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: DK II on July 20, 2007, 11:06:51 AM
The bodybuilders I know are usually very positive people.
On this board everybody seems to be very negative about anything.
That might add to the negativity towards bodybuilding.

BB is full of Nazi Nuggas.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 20, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
BB is full of Nazi Nuggas.

Show the Milos one..
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: DK II on July 20, 2007, 11:13:17 AM
Show the Milos one..

 ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on July 20, 2007, 11:15:52 AM
I basically agree with you here, shirted and unpumped I just look thin.  I imagine the same is true for you.


I look wide in a shirt and my back is really thick but thats about it. You can tell im in shape but i still look like a wieney
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: sandpiper on July 20, 2007, 11:20:57 AM
I look wide in a shirt and my back is really thick but thats about it. You can tell im in shape but i still look like a wieney

...but you still have a cat as an avatar
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: DK II on July 20, 2007, 11:34:09 AM
...but you still have a cat as an avatar

and he be serious.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Man of Steel on July 20, 2007, 11:42:19 AM
I generally agree, except that using the term "bodybuilder" for anyone who lifs weights is ludicrious....

There are different types of bodybuilders...pro's, amateurs, people who "bodybuild", etc....



This topic has been abused in the past.  It'll eventually come down to competitive and noncompetitive bbs.   Competitors only believe you're a "bb" if you compete.   Noncompetitors who still weight train, diet, supplement, use, etc...feel differently.    Personally, I think it comes down to lookin the part, but I've met some huge cornfed motherfvckers that are built like tanks, never diet and could be mistaken for bbs.   Who's right?   Eh, who cares?

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 20, 2007, 12:50:28 PM
I look wide in a shirt and my back is really thick but thats about it. You can tell im in shape but i still look like a wieney

STOP BEING SO HUMBLE. YOU LOOK GREAT. RIPPED TO THE BONE
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 20, 2007, 01:19:42 PM
I usually say I "bodybuild" or I "Train like a bodybuilder" and follow up with "I hope to compete in blah blah blah years" or "by the time I am 25yrs old".


BTW I also explain I want to compete naturally for my first time and decide after I compete whether or not I want to try out steroids.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 20, 2007, 01:24:20 PM
I usually say I "bodybuild" or I "Train like a bodybuilder" and follow up with "I hope to compete with blah blah blah years" or "by the time I am 25yrs old".

Dont u hate these guys (in this case a friend i know) they sign up randomly for gym memberships once a year or watever, they act like 'know-it-alls' they dont know shit, they act like they have monster genetics. ask for ur advice but then act like they are better.

its like get real dude, ur not a bodybuilder, ur an asshole that wants bigger arms for the summer.

Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 20, 2007, 01:36:10 PM
Dont u hate these guys (in this case a friend i know) they sign up randomly for gym memberships once a year or watever, they act like 'know-it-alls' they dont know shit, they act like they have monster genetics. ask for ur advice but then act like they are better.

its like get real dude, ur not a bodybuilder, ur an asshole that wants bigger arms for the summer.




I havn't run into too many people like that, I work at a small gym.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 20, 2007, 02:05:26 PM

I havn't run into too many people like that, I work at a small gym.

i didnt even run into this guy at the gym lol. i hadnt seen him in ages, and then he starts talking bout he's rejoining the gym, then how he is competetive and no matter what he will eventually outlift me and get bigger than me and also this rubbish about his genetics.

after this final insult, i said well let me show u my calves so u get an idea about muscle. and he tried to diss me before seeing them, i showed them, he dissed them and said man mine are bigger. then i force him to show his (he refused) and they had nothing and i said he needs a reality check.

then he changes the topic saying: yeah your calves are big but what can they do? how practical are they? do they have any use? arnold schwarzenegger might be big but is he athletic.


i said dont change the topic, im into bodybuilding, we were talking about muscle growth.

all this rubbish, and he is the one who asked me for advice.

call me cynical but i think i had a right to put him in his place and then show he is an idiot!
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 20, 2007, 04:13:03 PM
i didnt even run into this guy at the gym lol. i hadnt seen him in ages, and then he starts talking bout he's rejoining the gym, then how he is competetive and no matter what he will eventually outlift me and get bigger than me and also this rubbish about his genetics.

after this final insult, i said well let me show u my calves so u get an idea about muscle. and he tried to diss me before seeing them, i showed them, he dissed them and said man mine are bigger. then i force him to show his (he refused) and they had nothing and i said he needs a reality check.

then he changes the topic saying: yeah your calves are big but what can they do? how practical are they? do they have any use? arnold schwarzenegger might be big but is he athletic.


i said dont change the topic, im into bodybuilding, we were talking about muscle growth.

all this rubbish, and he is the one who asked me for advice.

call me cynical but i think i had a right to put him in his place and then show he is an idiot!


Sounds like he was a complete douche bag to me. I would have just stripped down and started posing ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 20, 2007, 04:17:23 PM
i didnt even run into this guy at the gym lol. i hadnt seen him in ages, and then he starts talking bout he's rejoining the gym, then how he is competetive and no matter what he will eventually outlift me and get bigger than me and also this rubbish about his genetics.

after this final insult, i said well let me show u my calves so u get an idea about muscle. and he tried to diss me before seeing them, i showed them, he dissed them and said man mine are bigger. then i force him to show his (he refused) and they had nothing and i said he needs a reality check.

then he changes the topic saying: yeah your calves are big but what can they do? how practical are they? do they have any use? arnold schwarzenegger might be big but is he athletic.


i said dont change the topic, im into bodybuilding, we were talking about muscle growth.

all this rubbish, and he is the one who asked me for advice.

call me cynical but i think i had a right to put him in his place and then show he is an idiot!

Convince them to work chest with you.. Load up the bar and don't spot 'em and viola!  ;D Like 3 plates to crush the fucks. They always do it with 2 spotters, so just unrack the weight for them and let it drop and walk away.

Okay, that's not practical, but don't you wish you could do that sometime to annoying, small and know it all assholes?
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Croatch on July 20, 2007, 05:41:25 PM
No, because bodybuilder usually equals steroid abuser, sadly enough.  When the roid topic comes up though, I usually rip on users and carry on about how most people can't do much naturally, like myself..hahah
The Broken Record formerly known as the Croatch
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 20, 2007, 05:41:43 PM
I laugh at other guys trying to eat clean all year around, but that never compete as I eat everything at the Chinese restaurant and I am in better shape than them... ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 20, 2007, 08:45:04 PM
I laugh at other guys trying to eat clean all year around, but that never compete as I eat everything at the Chinese restaurant and I am in better shape than them... ;D

seriously eating clean ALL THE TIME is pointless

E
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 20, 2007, 09:35:07 PM

Sounds like he was a complete douche bag to me. I would have just stripped down and started posing ;D

hahaha. i was sober and about to drop him off after going to a club.

I GOT SO INSULTED, I LEFT THE DRIVERS SEAT, PULLED UP MY JEANS AND FLEXED MY CALVES IN ANGER!

hahahahahaa.

when i left the car to flex my calves at him my bro was drunk in the front i remember he just said 'oh shit, i cant believe u are doing this' hahaha

its the pride of a bodybuilder!
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: D.L. 5 on July 20, 2007, 09:43:48 PM
Convince them to work chest with you.. Load up the bar and don't spot 'em and viola!  ;D Like 3 plates to crush the fucks. They always do it with 2 spotters, so just unrack the weight for them and let it drop and walk away.

Okay, that's not practical, but don't you wish you could do that sometime to annoying, small and know it all assholes?
haha. i know. well after our argument, it was so obvious i was pissed off. and then he's like 'sorry man...u know i didnt mean to get u cut'.  and in my head i said well u just blew ur chance getting some help, keep doing ur crappy routine.

fuck him. lol
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Mars on July 21, 2007, 12:22:38 AM
No, because bodybuilder usually equals steroid abuser, sadly enough.  When the roid topic comes up though, I usually rip on users and carry on about how most people can't do much naturally, like myself..hahah
The Broken Record formerly known as the Croatch

exactly, i think naturals would never be labelled as bodybuilders, you need to be juiced to the gills. id love to be in a world where there is no juice and people own the same genetics for building up mass etc, only then you can see who works hard for it.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: nycbull on July 21, 2007, 06:59:04 AM

Yeah, I hear ya. I never say it anyways. People are usually like, "do you work out" or "you must lift weights", and I just say "a little".


Anyone who knows me will tell you that I walk around in longsleeves & pants year round. I'm not looking for attention (not that I'm anything special, mind you), but I personally think it's pathetic when someone with some muscle walks around in a wifebeater year round, trying to get attention. Talk about insecure......

I'm the same way, I hate crass people. New York has been invaded by crass culturalism. Everyone is showing off their status or power or whatever. (its become LA). It is disgusting.

A girl walking in a once very poor neighborhood through a bunch of very poor immigrant workers in a thousand dollar outfit, on her cell phone completely ignoring them is just like the muscle guy in a tank, walking down the stet with his arms spread out.  Its all about selfishness and entitlement. Their parents taught them to be that way.

Its the Paris Hilton Phenomenon ---Flaunt your wealth, power, status, for you own personal gain without any consideration or respect for the people around you.

Welcome to the future folks.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Big N on July 21, 2007, 08:00:17 AM
No point in saying you're a BB unless you're standing infront of them half naked with monster muscles, cuts, symmetry and the whole nine to the point where they go "wow".

But if you're a natural BB and you're at the grocery store and you're throwing massive amounts of meat in your cart and somebody asks you "what are you gonna do with all that food" and you say "i'm a bodybuilder" then yeah good luck on giving them a good laugh!  ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Devon97 on July 21, 2007, 08:07:47 AM
seriously eating clean ALL THE TIME is pointless

E

Unless of course you want to attract hot girls instead of muscle bears :-X
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Big N on July 21, 2007, 08:09:51 AM
Unless of course you want to attract hot girls instead of muscle bears :-X

LOL
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: buffbodz on July 21, 2007, 08:12:54 AM



Anyone who knows me will tell you that I walk around in longsleeves & pants year round. I'm not looking for attention (not that I'm anything special, mind you), but I personally think it's pathetic when someone with some muscle walks around in a wifebeater year round, trying to get attention. Talk about insecure......

Where I live it gets very hot & muggy in the summer.  If you walked around funny covered, than you'd stand out plus sweat like a pig.  You work hard for it.  Give'em a little taste of what it is to be in shape.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: MikeThaMachine on July 21, 2007, 08:25:35 AM
No point in saying you're a BB unless you're standing infront of them half naked with monster muscles, cuts, symmetry and the whole nine to the point where they go "wow".

But if you're a natural BB and you're at the grocery store and you're throwing massive amounts of meat in your cart and somebody asks you "what are you gonna do with all that food" and you say "i'm a bodybuilder" then yeah good luck on giving them a good laugh!  ;D


How do they react when you tell them you're a cage fighter???
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Earl1972 on July 21, 2007, 09:42:04 AM
Unless of course you want to attract hot girls instead of muscle bears :-X

you don't have to live off of dry chicken breasts and brocolli to get chicks

E
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on July 21, 2007, 09:45:12 AM
you don't have to live off of dry chicken breasts and brocolli to get chicks

E

I really do laugh at my friends that bitch about how they took in to much sodium in one day and it is making them retain water, so after that they proceed to boil a chicken breast and then squeeze all the water out of it after done boiling while they eat raw broccoli and their not even competing it is really hilarious... ;D
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: Devon97 on July 21, 2007, 09:52:48 AM
you don't have to live off of dry chicken breasts and brocolli to get chicks

E

You dont have to live off dry chicken breasts and broccoli to be considered "eating clean all the time" either.
Title: Re: YOU CALL YOURSELF A BODYBUILDER?
Post by: gordiano on July 21, 2007, 11:31:35 AM
I'm the same way, I hate crass people. New York has been invaded by crass culturalism. Everyone is showing off their status or power or whatever. (its become LA). It is disgusting.

A girl walking in a once very poor neighborhood through a bunch of very poor immigrant workers in a thousand dollar outfit, on her cell phone completely ignoring them is just like the muscle guy in a tank, walking down the stet with his arms spread out.  Its all about selfishness and entitlement. Their parents taught them to be that way.

Its the Paris Hilton Phenomenon ---Flaunt your wealth, power, status, for you own personal gain without any consideration or respect for the people around you.

Welcome to the future folks.

I hear ya, man. It's like that everywhere now, it seems. Materialism has taken over.......