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Title: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 10:47:40 AM
seems like everyone says it is impossible to burn fat and put on muscle

i call bullshit

to burn fat you must be in a caloric deficit, to put on muscle you must be in caloric excess, i agree

but if you wake up and do 30-60min cardio first thing empty, your body will burn fat, then follow the rest of the day with higher calories especially around weight training when the body is in the most anabolic state which will gain you lean mass

everyone seems to think the body waits till the end of the day and calculates total calorie intake then decides whether to lose or gain....such bullshit....your body decides whether to gain or lose every few hours during digestion and energy usage

i am currently doing this and i have lost 1 lb in 3 weeks.....my waste and abdomen are smaller, and arms/shoulders/legs/chest have increased slightly.....of course you cannot put on muscle as fast but it can be done while reducing fat
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: The Squadfather on July 23, 2007, 10:48:31 AM
let's see some pictures.
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 10:51:59 AM
let's see some pictures.

imagine that...squad wants pictures....

no way dude, i have seen what happens when people post photos

plus i have no before photo so a current one would do nothing.....it has only been 3 weeks so the changes aren't huge but i have
lost a total of 2-3/4" from waist and abdomen....the added inches are very minimal being 3 weeks and i am natural
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: The Squadfather on July 23, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
imagine that...squad wants pictures....

no way dude, i have seen what happens when people post photos

plus i have no before photo so a current one would do nothing.....it has only been 3 weeks so the changes aren't huge but i have
lost a total of 2-3/4" from waist and abdomen....the added inches are very minimal being 3 weeks and i am natural
translation=you're full of shit.
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: Moen on July 23, 2007, 11:01:39 AM
Your body is not a calculator, the caloric deficit and excess theories are useless
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:02:26 AM
translation=you're full of shit.

i have no reason to lie....i have never made bullshit claims and never will.....i have nothing to gain from this

i would however like people to realize it is possible to burn fat/gain lean mass simultaneously with proper timing
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:04:07 AM
Your body is not a calculator, the caloric deficit and excess theories are useless

i agree, it is more about timing and types of fuel than amounts
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on July 23, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
seems like everyone says it is impossible to burn fat and put on muscle

i call bullshit

to burn fat you must be in a caloric deficit, to put on muscle you must be in caloric excess, i agree

but if you wake up and do 30-60min cardio first thing empty, your body will burn fat, then follow the rest of the day with higher calories especially around weight training when the body is in the most anabolic state which will gain you lean mass

everyone seems to think the body waits till the end of the day and calculates total calorie intake then decides whether to lose or gain....such bullshit....your body decides whether to gain or lose every few hours during digestion and energy usage

i am currently doing this and i have lost 1 lb in 3 weeks.....my waste and abdomen are smaller, and arms/shoulders/legs/chest have increased slightly.....of course you cannot put on muscle as fast but it can be done while reducing fat

I think your kidding yourself son, you may look better but I expect you are tightening up and have actually lost more weight than you're telling us.

Maybe i'm wrong but I would need to see proof to the contrary.

ta ta
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: The Squadfather on July 23, 2007, 11:04:31 AM
i have no reason to lie....i have never made bullshit claims and never will.....i have nothing to gain from this

i would however like people to realize it is possible to burn fat/gain lean mass simultaneously with proper timing
are you a skinny gym scientist? if people are going to take your advice they need to see that you're a ripped musclar beast so they know you practice what you preach.
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: nycbull on July 23, 2007, 11:06:27 AM


everyone seems to think the body waits till the end of the day and calculates total calorie intake then decides whether to lose or gain....such bullshit....your body decides whether to gain or lose every few hours during digestion and energy usage


actually a pretty good theory.
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: SirTraps on July 23, 2007, 11:08:24 AM
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Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:13:03 AM
are you a skinny gym scientist? if people are going to take your advice they need to see that you're a ripped musclar beast so they know you practice what you preach.

no....i am not currently ripped, as of 2 weeks ago i was over 15% bf.....i am going 8 weeks on this and i will tell you the end result:

starting weight, ending weight, starting bf, ending bf....that is proof enough

i am not stupid enough to post photos on this board, too many immature people like you squad
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:20:37 AM
I think your kidding yourself son, you may look better but I expect you are tightening up and have actually lost more weight than you're telling us.

Maybe i'm wrong but I would need to see proof to the contrary.

ta ta

i weigh myself first thing monday morning after waking, same scale every time....also measure every monday: shoulders, chest, both arms, waist, abdomen, both thighs, both calves....i have lost 1 lb as said before

sample day:

5.45am -45min cardio upon waking(4 days a week)
6.40am protein shake/banana
9-9.30am chicken breast/almonds/fish oil
12pm turkey sandwich/spinach salad w sunflower seeds/multi vitamin
3-3.30pm chicken breast or protein shake/fish oil/almonds
4.20pm weight training
5-5.15 protein shake/gatorade
6.30pm some type of meat/little potatos/brocolli
9pm glass of cabernet red wine
9.30-10 protein shake

Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: INSOMNIA on July 23, 2007, 11:27:27 AM
It has way more to do with what stage u are at in your training. Are you starting out (or in your first few years) as a beginner when gains come easily from lifting, and when your body responds very easily? If yes, then it is very possible to do both at the same time---burn fat/build muscle. However, if your pretty maxed out in your development and training, and muscle gains come slowly, at this stage it is vitually impossible for it to happen simultaneously. I have 12 years of training under my belt, but now, when Im in fat loss mode, I cannot build muscle...I just try to keep what I do have. Make sense?
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: CoolDuck on July 23, 2007, 11:31:18 AM
i am currently doing this and i have lost 1 lb in 3 weeks.....my waste and abdomen are smaller, and arms/shoulders/legs/chest have increased slightly.....of course you cannot put on muscle as fast but it can be done while reducing fat

It can be done if you're previously untrained. It's very difficult or impossible if you have trained for a few years.

CD
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:32:56 AM
It has way more to do with what stage u are at in your training. Are you starting out (or in your first few years) as a beginner when gains come easily from lifting, and when your body responds very easily? If yes, then it is very possible to do both at the same time---burn fat/build muscle. However, if your pretty maxed out in your development and training, and muscle gains come slowly, at this stage it is vitually impossible for it to happen simultaneously. I have 12 years of training under my belt, but now, when Im in fat loss mode, I cannot build muscle...I just try to keep what I do have.

i am 31 and have been lifting for many years....i admit i have learned the hard way....i spent many of my young years lifting and eating shitty and drinking excess alcohol getting nowhere, man would i love to have all the wasted years back :'(
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: INSOMNIA on July 23, 2007, 11:38:48 AM
i am 31 and have been lifting for many years....i admit i have learned the hard way....i spent many of my young years lifting and eating shitty and drinking excess alcohol getting nowhere, man would i love to have all the wasted years back :'(

Years are not wasted! Sounds to me like you had some good times when you should have (in your 20s). Many BBers look back on their teens and 20s and remember nothing but eating, sleeping, and training. Many would say those were "wasted years"

Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: No Patience on July 23, 2007, 11:46:35 AM
Years are not wasted! Sounds to me like you had some good times when you should have (in your 20s). Many BBers look back on their teens and 20s and remember nothing but eating, sleeping, and training. Many would say those were "wasted years"

Never too late to get serious!!!


yeah...i did have some good times!! my motivation now is my little girl that will be here in november....i want to be in prime health
now that i am going to be a daddy
Title: Re: Burn fat/build muscle simultaneously
Post by: INSOMNIA on July 23, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
Wow, thats great! Congrats!!!!  ;D