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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Livewire on July 26, 2007, 08:04:14 PM
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Both are getbig legends.
Both have competed in bodybuildling shows.
Both are personal trainers.
Yet they are so different.
In your opinion,
1) Which man is the better bodybuilder, and
2) Which man is the better personal trainer?
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Vince has just as good of a physique and hes natural, i give Vince the edge.
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No matter which one you say is better, the fact reamins they just aren't that far apart. It's funny because Arvilla thinks he's in another league from Goodrum or something, and the cold hard truth is he's not.
De Nile is not just a river in Egypt. ;D ;)
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Vince has just as good of a physique and hes natural, i give Vince the edge.
They have both admitted past drug use and have openly discussed cycles.
So that is a wash - neither is natural.
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Vince has just as good of a physique and hes natural, i give Vince the edge.
That's an important point... Vince isn't juiced to the gills, so it's not a fair comparison to begin with, yet Vince holds his own.
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Equally juiced, Vince would blow him away. Vince has wider shoulders and better wheels. Arvilla looks lean, but has very little muscle and no legs.
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Hate to break it to you, but Arvilla IS in another league, so far. He by far outmasses Vince, and he's shown that he can get into competition shape. Nothing against Vince, but he just hasn't reached his best yet.
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Hate to break it to you, but Arvilla IS in another league, so far. He by far outmasses Vince, and he's shown that he can get into competition shape. Nothing against Vince, but he just hasn't reached his best yet.
Equally juiced, Vince would blow him away.
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Threads without pics are WORTHLESS!!!!
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:D
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Hmmmm.... they both have some serious gyno.
Paco Batista would be proud!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=160846.0;attach=183840;image)
pure genius.....classic
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They have both admitted past drug use and have openly discussed cycles.
So that is a wash - neither is natural.
Thing is, Vince lies about his past steroid use. The reason he claims that he used to take steroids is to give him some kind "internet cred." and a hollow explanation as to why his physique sucks so bad right now.
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Thing is, Vince lies about his past steroid use. The reason he claims that he used to take steroids is to give him some kind "internet cred." and a hollow explanation as to why his physique sucks so bad right now.
How about Vince making vague claims that he's a drug dealer.
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How about Vince making vague claims that he's a drug dealer.
Well, if you really were, of course you'd make them vague. What's he gonna do, post "Hey guys... need any steroids? If so, PM me, I'll hook you up!" ::)
That said, the hardest stuff he probably has acces to is bee pollen.
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both have serious bad gyno, vince is a joke, so is arvilla, at least mike armadillo is getting cheri lanes tush, so he wins hands down.
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didn't arvilla qualify for the olympia at his last show? i thought he placed second.
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Well, if you really were, of course you'd make them vague. What's he gonna do, post "Hey guys... need any steroids? If so, PM me, I'll hook you up!" ::)
No shit. But he thinks it gives him street cred or something.
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didn't arvilla qualify for the olympia at his last show? i thought he placed second.
second out of two competitors at a local show.
That probably qualifies him for the PDI NOC! ;D
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i don't consider arvilla a getbig "legend"
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i don't consider arvilla a getbig "legend"
but the thread on mike's progress has nearly 100,000 views
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=28115.0
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i don't consider arvilla a getbig "legend"
Can you name 5 members you'd consider getbig "legends"?
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All i wanna do is train/and get to that next level (national level)
all this trash talk/bashing does noone anygood
let Vince be Vince and ill be me
train/eat/sleep
dedication/tenacity/desire
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All i wanna do is train/and get to that next level (national level)
You're going to have to stop doing dumbbell curls in the squat rack then, and actually train legs for that.
dedication/tenacity/desire
Perhaps you should look at your bank balance, and consider applying some dedication/tenacity/desire to your career?
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;D
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Mike,
Honestly, stop for a moment. Now, look at this picture that you posted:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=160846.0;attach=183930;image)
Can you at least be objective and admit that the only thing you have going for yourself are your deltoids and biceps? After that what else is there?
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;D
iT's all about improvement,that was last years show
this years show i brought up my quads,calves and hamstrings............an d ill continue to improve
with help from people like Justin Harris,Marty Vranicar,Larry Holcomb,Jimmy MENTIS,bIG Ant
all great people willing to help me improve/get to that next level
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Arvilla lost the genetics lottery.
Not his fault, but it's amazing he can't see it and thinks he has any shot of getting to the "national level".
Arvilla dedicating his life to bodybuilding is like a blind man dedicating his life to being a race car driver.
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Mike,
Honestly, stop for a moment. Now, look at this picture that you posted:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=160846.0;attach=183930;image)
Can you at least be objective and admit that the only thing you have going for yourself are your deltoids and biceps? After that what else is there?
I can be very objective when it comes to my physique..............i see a lot of body parts that need work/need to come up
im going to try my hardest................. ......that's all i can do really.....do the best with what god gave me
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I can be very objective when it comes to my physique..............i see a lot of body parts that need work/need to come up
im going to try my hardest................. ......that's all i can do really.....do the best with what god gave me
Fair enough. I like your answer and will forever more not bother you.
"1"
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Arvilla lost the genetics lottery.
Not his fault, but it's amazing he can't see it and thinks he has any shot of getting to the "national level".
Arvilla dedicating his life to bodybuilding is like a blind man dedicating his life to being a race car driver.
Petter Potter thinks otherwise...told me to take a year off/bring up my legs and do a national qualifer
so............that's what im going to do (i did get 2nd place mens open heavyweights remember?)
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P.S. Wanna fuck?
P.P.S. You never know unless you ask...
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Fair enough. I like your answer and will forever more not bother you.
"1"
THank you....................i appreciate it!
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I think Mike made a good showing conditioning-wise - I was very impressed with his before & after. So he doesn't have the best genetics. Who does? Oh yea, everyone else on getbig.
Keep up the hard work Mike - good luck to ya. BTW - you're not alone - my legs suck as well. ;D
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I think Mike made a good showing conditioning-wise - I was very impressed with his before & after. So he doesn't have the best genetics. Who does? Oh yea, everyone else on getbig.
Keep up the hard work Mike - good luck to ya. BTW - you're not alone - my legs suck as well. ;D
tHanks man!............( i have average or below average genetics)
all i can do is try my best/work my hardest
i love bodybuilding i truly do (if i could get to the national level that would be a dream come true/like some guys dream of turning pro)
it may never happen.................. .but im going to give it my all
again thanks!!
MikE
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tHanks man!............( i have average or below average genetics)
all i can do is try my best/work my hardest
i love bodybuilding i truly do (if i could get to the national level that would be a dream come true/like some guys dream of turning pro)
it may never happen.................. .but im going to give it my all
again thanks!!
MikE
No problem. If I recall corrently you're about six foot (as am I) & quite a few guys that tall & taller have skinny legs. :-\
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Can you name 5 members you'd consider getbig "legends"?
i have not been on getbig long enough and often enough but vince and chad mower qualify. squad too, for his legendary pwnings.
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Petter Potter thinks otherwise...told me to take a year off/bring up my legs and do a national qualifer
Mike, you've been training for 20+ years right? And didn't you claim that you were never just an "upper" bodybuilder? if that's the case, then how much size do you realistically expect to put on your legs over the course of just another off season (after having had 20+ years of "off seasons")?
Now if, in fact, you've neglected training legs over the past 20+ years then making big gains in the wheels department would be a lot more promising. Nevertheless, good luck.
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P.S. Wanna fuck?
P.P.S. You never know unless you ask...
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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Mike, you've been training for 20+ years right? And didn't you claim that you were never just an "upper" bodybuilder? if that's the case, then how much size do you realistically expect to put on your legs over the course of just another off season (after having had 20+ years of "off seasons")?
Now if, in fact, you've neglected training legs over the past 20+ years then making big gains in the wheels department would be a lot more promising. Nevertheless, good luck.
i Trained legs since day one....................m aybe i need to try "widowmakers"
maybe i need to stop shying away from squats,maybe ill never have huge quads
but i gotta try .................i love it
bottom line
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Petter Potter thinks otherwise...told me to take a year off/bring up my legs and do a national qualifer
so............that's what im going to do (i did get 2nd place mens open heavyweights remember?)
If there is one thing I know, unless you've already had "it".....it's very very difficult if not damn near impossible at our age (you're 40, I'm 45) to gain size, the only improvments that we can make is too just refine what we already have, but what Potter said about waiting a year to bring up a bodypart is not realalistic, you've been training for along time, if it didn't happen then, it ain't gonna happen now.
This post is not a blast by anymeans, it's just a physiological fact for people who want to compete at our age!
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iT's all about improvement,that was last years show
this years show i brought up my quads,calves and hamstrings............an d ill continue to improve
with help from people like Justin Harris,Marty Vranicar,Larry Holcomb,Jimmy MENTIS,bIG Ant
all great people willing to help me improve/get to that next level
you're using flex magazine motivational talk.
in real life, your a scrub who can't win his local show class, despite steroid use and the advice of pros. you're not built for this, man.
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(i did get 2nd place mens open heavyweights remember?)
There were only two guys in the class.
Michael moore could have entered in your place, and gotten 2nd place mens open heavyweights.
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It just amazes me that all these threads putting someone down are started by kids that will never show there physique on this board. Mike you look great and you bust your ass training and dieting. These are things that the these fools have never done. I'm learning to just not respond to their comments. Something you are very good at. Anytime someone or myself have posted a pic. I have asked these fools to go ahead and post a pic right next to mine. They never have a response, nor do they ever post one.
I know there are all these gimmick accounts. So the same guy who says you look awesome, will go on his fake account and put you down. Vince Goodrum is not even in the same league. Keep training hard and heavy Mike. Good luck.
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There were only two guys in the class.
Michael moore could have entered in your place, and gotten 2nd place mens open heavyweights.
Which means YOU would have received 3RD place, until you prove different and show some pics.
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It just amazes me that all these threads putting someone down are started by kids that will never show there physique on this board. Mike you look great and you bust your ass training and dieting. These are things that the these fools have never done. I'm learning to just not respond to their comments. Something you are very good at. Anytime someone or myself have posted a pic. I have asked these fools to go ahead and post a pic right next to mine. They never have a response, nor do they ever post one.
I know there are all these gimmick accounts. So the same guy who says you look awesome, will go on his fake account and put you down. Vince Goodrum is not even in the same league. Keep training hard and heavy Mike. Good luck.
What I can't understand is why all these comparison threads? Are people that hurting for attention? Arvilla never bothers anyone and people constantly have a bone to pic with him.
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i Trained legs since day one....................m aybe i need to try "widowmakers"
maybe i need to stop shying away from squats,maybe ill never have huge quads
but i gotta try .................i love it
bottom line
maybe you should stop saying maybe, dont think, just step under the squatrack, forget about heavy legpress, they dont do you any good, high reps squats is the ticket though, come on, you can do it. you ve been training legs for 20 years, and it seems that you ve been doing something wrong, if you work hard on the elg press, doesnt mean your legs will grow, if you have hard gaining legs. stop doing that, start using the squat, front squat, you can ge tbetter results in 1 year then doing 20 years wrong excersize.
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i bet arvilla is one of those 90% in the gym doing two quarter reps with twice as much weight the really can handle using proper deep squats.
monster not thinking outside the box for 20 years.
start from scratch. 225 should be more than you can handle for 10 deep reps Arvilla.
haha.
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Vince Goodrum looks like Tom Platz next to Arvilla. Give up those stars Arvilla ;D
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Vince Goodrum looks like Tom Platz next to Arvilla. Give up those stars Arvilla ;D
mike is doing partial rep leg extensions.
youve inspired him.
he's bringing his A game.
after 20 years, he found the 'secret' to big legs.
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i bet arvilla is one of those 90% in the gym doing two quarter reps with twice as much weight the really can handle using proper deep squats.
monster not thinking outside the box for 20 years.
start from scratch. 225 should be more than you can handle for 10 deep reps Arvilla.
haha.
gospel.
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Mike-you have been on stage and walked the walk which is something many can only dream about.Sure,you haven't got the BEST genetics but neither have 99% of the population including the vast majority of people on here,but you overcame this,got in good condition and placed highly.Keep living the dream,mate and ignore the haters.
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No matter which one you say is better, the fact reamins they just aren't that far apart. It's funny because Arvilla thinks he's in another league from Goodrum or something, and the cold hard truth is he's not.
De Nile is not just a river in Egypt. ;D ;)
C'mon Goat, I know you like to Arvilla a hard time but you gotta admit he suffered downa dndieted and cardio'd his ass off.
Most of us doubt vince even trains with anything other than flexible bands and there is no way what he does could be called dieting at all.
Arvilla at least put the effort in, vince doesn't.
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Mike-you have been on stage and walked the walk which is something many can only dream about.Sure,you haven't got the BEST genetics but neither have 99% of the population including the vast majority of people on here,but you overcame this,got in good condition and placed highly.Keep living the dream,mate and ignore the haters.
you make it seem like entering a bodybuilding show's hard.
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Getting into proper contest condition is not easy.You do have to sacrifice a lot but I would never moan about it as it is my choice to do it in the first place.
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Bottom Line-- Vince has competed just like Arvilla competed, and Vinces physique is just as good as Arvilla's.
No way should Arvilla have stars and Vince not have them.
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Bottom Line-- Vince has competed just like Arvilla competed, and Vinces physique is just as good as Arvilla's.
No way should Arvilla have stars and Vince not have them.
Just as good? Prove it to me in the comparison pics. You are a moron.
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::) Vince has better wheels and wider shoulders, not a hell of a lot of difference. No offense but Arvilla carries slightly more muscle than the average mens tennis player or golfer. ::)
Give Vince Arvilla's stars
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Bottom Line-- Vince has competed just like Arvilla competed, and Vinces physique is just as good as Arvilla's.
No way should Arvilla have stars and Vince not have them.
C'mon.... ::)
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::) Vince has better wheels and wider shoulders, not a hell of a lot of difference. No offense but Arvilla carries slightly more muscle than the average mens tennis player or golfer. ::)
Give Vince Arvilla's stars
Like I said, prove it to me in comparison pics.
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You guys can go through another 2000 page thread on who looks better, arvilla or vince....who cares?! ::)
The fact remains that Vince DID compete, and unless those blue stars have a "placing prerequisite", he's earned his stars. What's the problem??? ???
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You guys can go through another 2000 page thread on who looks better, arvilla or vince....who cares?! ::)
The fact remains that Vince DID compete, and unless those blue stars have a "placing prerequisite", he's earned his stars. What's the problem??? ???
I'm not denying he deserves stars.
Let's just not compare him to Arvilla.
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Let's just not compare him to Arvilla.
Why not ? ???
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You guys can go through another 2000 page thread on who looks better, arvilla or vince....who cares?! ::)
The fact remains that Vince DID compete, and unless those blue stars have a "placing prerequisite", he's earned his stars. What's the problem??? ???
I see your point.....however, Vince enters shows, he doesn't "compete". Reality is, ANYONE CAN ENTER, looking like shit. It's wether they dieted, trained their ass off that makes a competitor......not just showing up.
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Arvilla is partially responsible for my not having any blue stars. He accused me of being a gimmick account. Guys like him without a full physique should get half blue stars.
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Arvilla is partially responsible for my not having any blue stars. He accused me of being a gimmick account. Guys like him without a full physique should get half blue stars.
Why does he think youre a gimmick? You used to post here back before he ever heard of Getbig. ::)
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Arvilla is partially responsible for my not having any blue stars. He accused me of being a gimmick account. Guys like him without a full physique should get half blue stars.
he should be ashamed of himself. you should have blue stars if he has them and besides blue stars would match your blue hair
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Arvilla has a big mouth. Arvilla and Goodrum look big off season then evaporate at contest time. Matter of fact getting cut takes too much off most guys trying to look good nowadays. Bring back the old standards and maybe Arvilla and Goodrum will fare better. Goodrum was about 15% fat last year on stage. These guys have no clue at all about getting ripped. Arvilla lost a lot of fat but still looks weird. Some guys shouldn't get up on stage. No blue stars are worth that! They are either in total denial or have bad vision. Why get up on stage and humiliate oneself? Trust Getbig to attract losers and dreamers.
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arvilla ownes vince wodkarum
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Why does he think youre a gimmick? You used to post here back before he ever heard of Getbig. ::)
Arvilla is a simple-minded person. He Googled my name and found other guys with the same name so assumed I must be a gimmick. What a genius. I am one of the few guys who have always used my real name and have never had a gimmick account here or anywhere else. I posted here debating hypertrophy before I was published in Ironman in 2000. So I posted about 8 years ago and kept posting now and then over the years.
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Arvilla has a big mouth. Arvilla and Goodrum look big off season then evaporate at contest time. Matter of fact getting cut takes too much off most guys trying to look good nowadays. Bring back the old standards and maybe Arvilla and Goodrum will fare better. Goodrum was about 15% fat last year on stage. These guys have no clue at all about getting ripped. Arvilla lost a lot of fat but still looks weird. Some guys shouldn't get up on stage. No blue stars are worth that! They are either in total denial or have bad vision. Why get up on stage and humiliate oneself? Trust Getbig to attract losers and dreamers.
Shut the fuck up you fat old man.................your time was 1930's (stop trying to hang on it's over for you)
i can get ripped and/or be full (just not both at the same time yet)
your like 70 years old .................die already!
(btw : i was being nice not saying anything to about you and your boring ass long winded diatribe
stfu already with your blue font and your fat azz)
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u start talking smack old man...................u picked the wrong guy
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Arvilla you must have had polio as a kid or something. You look better big. Forget about getting up on stage. Leave that to the delusional like Goodrum.
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I'm not a fan of Vince B's longwinded posts, but man has he really pissed Arvilla off, good job Vince ;D
Arvilla, let it go man. You look pretty scrawny in shape and your legs are terrible. Take some time off, if you have any left from all the years of juicing, and work on adding some quality mass. until then you will continue to look like a mexican Adonis ;)
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Why does he think youre a gimmick? You used to post here back before he ever heard of Getbig. ::)
Vince B. invented Getbig........
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Next thing his girlfriend will be here to defend him. What a sap. Why use age as an insult? Arvilla will never win a show of any importance. Maybe he should compete against Goodrum in the hillbilly junior division? Now that would be a show worth seeing. Mr Delusional!
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Shut the fuck up you fat old man.................your time was 1930's (stop trying to hang on it's over for you)
This is funny coming from Arvilla, since he's as "over the hill" as Vince is.
News flash, Mike... Vince ain't that much older than you are. ::)
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how old is Mike?
I've heard rumors he's been juicing 20+ years and still looks like that? any truth to this?
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You know, folks, I don't like to put people down. Not good for business and some people will hate you forever afterwards. I just can't fathom why a guy with supposedly 19 inch arms would shed so much size and look like a novice in some obscure show. WTF is that? Sure, a
loser hero like Goodrum does that but Arvilla? Doesn't make sense. We saw Adonis fade away to some urchin to be cut in Mr Getbig. I wish Arvilla would spare us the dramatics and not post those sad a-few-weeks-out images.
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Vince B. invented Getbig........
No, Ron did that.
But Vince did invent posting in purple font from Australia!
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No, Ron did that.
But Vince did invent posting in purple font from Australia!
when Ron said let there be Getbig..........Vince threw the switch......
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how old is Mike?
I've heard rumors he's been juicing 20+ years and still looks like that? any truth to this?
He's mid-40's, and been "living the dream" since he was a teenager.
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Yep.
He's mid-40's, and been "living the dream" since he was a teenager.
that is such a waste of juice........ :'(
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that is such a waste of juice a liver........ :'(
fixed.
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Shut the fuck up you fat old man.................your time was 1930's (stop trying to hang on it's over for you)
i can get ripped and/or be full (just not both at the same time yet)
your like 70 years old .................die already!
(btw : i was being nice not saying anything to about you and your boring ass long winded diatribe
stfu already with your blue font and your fat azz)
Meltdown.... ;D
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At least Goodrum has calves. Why 'bodybuilders' get up on stage with crap calves is beyond reason. Take up table tennis or something else.
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At least Goodrum has calves. Why 'bodybuilders' get up on stage with crap calves is beyond reason. Take up table tennis or something else.
Calves are primarily genetic IMO and if you ain't got em then they are exceedingly hard to build especially for natural bodybuilders.Not sure why you are so bothered about whether Mike competes or not,Vince? Does it affect your life in any way? Mike has a decent physique and certainly deserves to be up there on stage as his placings have proved.It is certainly a battle for natural bodybuilders to retain muscle mass while dieting(anyone got any tips on this) but if you are not ripped you will not place,simple as.Let's have a bit more positivity,Vince-life's always better when your glass is half full :)
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THERE'S NO COMPARISON.
If nothing else, we KNOW Arvilla can achieve good condition. WE CANNOT say the same about Vince.....
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Why would the words of an old has been matter on Getbig? Why can't I have as much fun as Arvilla, Goatboy or Goodrum?
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Arvilla has very good shoulders. Goodrum has good calves and a better balance. Seems to me they are about even.
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You almost need to compare Arvilla off-season against Vince in-season (he's still really fat and bloated). We've never seen Vince cut like we have Mike.
So if you compare Mike off-season with Vince in-season, Mike wins.
But if you compare Mike in-season with a dry/cut Vince...who knows who'll win...haven't seen that yet...
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Arvilla: (http://www.rubmybelly.com/Turd.jpg) vs. Goodrum: (http://www.adventuresindefecation.com/turd_gallery/rabbit_pellets.jpg)
The agony of choice...
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"Jonno gb", quit making excuses for Arvilla's calves, its not just his calves but his entire leg that looks like an ethiopian cancer victim.
He has no back or chest either, hope this helps. Give Vince Arvilla's stars.
20 years on the juice and he looks like dogshit.
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....it's very very difficult if not damn near impossible at our age
Not true Coach. You may recoup as fast as you did in your 20's but you can def. put on quality muscle, you've got to revamp your training & nutrition. Yes, it's harder but nowhere near as impossible as you think.