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Do many of u guys take blood pressure readings while on or off-cycle?
Is there a very significant connection between AAS and hypertension???
I've tested my readings on numerous occassions when off-cycle while visiting the doctor - they were okay (120/80) . However, recently I got a 140/86 .... which I find it hard to fathom as I ve been off for 1 month and I ran similar cycles as compared to the past (approximate 1g Test 8wks + 40mg Dbol 5wks + Tren Acetate 2 wks : all with about 8-10wks off period).
I wonder if its due to my nervousness at the Docs (white coat hypertension)....will be purchasing a home monitoring device soon.
Any guys wanna share experience??
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You are 100% right about nervous. Vet did a big rant awhile back on that.
Its good to learn to check your own.
We run to the Dr appt late, are parinoid and have high BP. We go home and have 110/75 ;)
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I've noticed tha AAS raise my blood pressure (however, my BP naturally runs a little high). Obviously some more then others. I've found Dbol to be the worst for me. However, I notice about a five point increase last time around when taking just test & deca.
As for the white coat hypertension, maybe have the nurse take your BP before the doctor. When the nurse takes my BP it'll be normal but then when the doctor checks it it's about ten points higher.
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I've noticed tha AAS raise my blood pressure (however, my BP naturally runs a little high). Obviously some more then others. I've found Dbol to be the worst for me. However, I notice about a five point increase last time around when taking just test & deca.
As for the white coat hypertension, maybe have the nurse take your BP before the doctor. When the nurse takes my BP it'll be normal but then when the doctor checks it it's about ten points higher.
Once I an comfortable w/ a particular person, my BP is low. Stranger = > BP.
That's why I learned to take my own. Interesting to listen to it pulse.
Any idiot can do it.
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Once I an comfortable w/ a particular person, my BP is low. Stranger = > BP.
That's why I learned to take my own. Interesting to listen to it pulse.
Any idiot can do it.
Same with me.
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Do many of u guys take blood pressure readings while on or off-cycle?
Is there a very significant connection between AAS and hypertension???
I've tested my readings on numerous occassions when off-cycle while visiting the doctor - they were okay (120/80) . However, recently I got a 140/86 .... which I find it hard to fathom as I ve been off for 1 month and I ran similar cycles as compared to the past (approximate 1g Test 8wks + 40mg Dbol 5wks + Tren Acetate 2 wks : all with about 8-10wks off period).
I wonder if its due to my nervousness at the Docs (white coat hypertension)....will be purchasing a home monitoring device soon.
Any guys wanna share experience??
Clonidine .3MG for sleep and it also increases GH output during sleep.
Hypertension runs in my family, so medication is precautionary.
DIV
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140/86 IS NOT TIME FOR CLONIDINE DIV.
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Once I an comfortable w/ a particular person, my BP is low. Stranger = > BP.
That's why I learned to take my own. Interesting to listen to it pulse.
Any idiot can do it.
Exactly the same with me too, sometimes my heart rate is way up at the docs because of nerves along with my bp.
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140/86 IS NOT TIME FOR CLONIDINE DIV.
A mild diuretic will lower the top number.
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I gave up checking my blood pressure after regular 180/145 readings ;)
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I gave up checking my blood pressure after regular 180/145 readings ;)
You aint serious!! ;D ????????
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hi guys thanks for the inputs so much! ;D :P
I noticed one possible problem with most blood pressure device in that the arm cuffs are too small for us big size. I've done research and too small a cuff will give higher readings. So guys do check ur cuffs properly when u visit the doc.
Hence, I have to purchase a wrist B.P. monitor device instead. Though its harder to use and some say its not as accurate as the arm device, its my only choice (since I couldnt find bigger arm cuffs at my local store). Took it at 155 at the pharmacist (due to nervousness!). Now back home and relaxed, I consistently get the 120-125 readings :). Hopefully, my case is one of whitecoat hypertension! ! (Well,well....aren't juicers sometimes paranoid about such stuff).
Nonetheless I purchased some anti-hypertensive - "Enalapril" , an ACE inhibitor. Decide to take them at 5mg a day to curb any possible hypertension problem. ANy views on this?? Any of you guys tried Enalapril before??
Thanks.
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hi guys thanks for the inputs so much! ;D :P
I noticed one possible problem with most blood pressure device in that the arm cuffs are too small for us big size. I've done research and too small a cuff will give higher readings. So guys do check ur cuffs properly when u visit the doc.
Hence, I have to purchase a wrist B.P. monitor device instead. Though its harder to use and some say its not as accurate as the arm device, its my only choice (since I couldnt find bigger arm cuffs at my local store). Took it at 155 at the pharmacist (due to nervousness!). Now back home and relaxed, I consistently get the 120-125 readings :). Hopefully, my case is one of whitecoat hypertension! ! (Well,well....aren't juicers sometimes paranoid about such stuff).
Nonetheless I purchased some anti-hypertensive - "Enalapril" , an ACE inhibitor. Decide to take them at 5mg a day to curb any possible hypertension problem. ANy views on this?? Any of you guys tried Enalapril before??
Thanks.
You might want to PM Vet about this to make sure your geting a accruate read. Big arms are a problem for a accurate
read. He did a rant on t hat awhile back. The guy is a goldMine of valuable medical chemical info. ;)
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You might want to PM Vet about this to make sure your geting a accruate read. Big arms are a problem for a accurate
read. He did a rant on t hat awhile back. The guy is a goldMine of valuable medical chemical info. ;)
thanks dude.
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You aint serious!! ;D ????????
I sure hope not.
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You aint serious!! ;D ????????
only half kidding ;)
it is always high though.. whether Im on AAS or not.
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only half kidding ;)
it is always high though.. whether Im on AAS or not.
dun mind tellin me how old r u, dude?
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When my vision starts to get blurry or I get lethargic I know my bp is kicking up. I take captopril and this helps a lot.
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only half kidding ;)
it is always high though.. whether Im on AAS or not.
Join the club. :(
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dun mind tellin me how old r u, dude?
He's 28 & I'm 30 & I have the same problem. & guess what? AAS aren't to blame - mine's always run high since I was about 22 or 23.
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He's 28 & I'm 30 & I have the same problem. & guess what? AAS aren't to blame - mine's always run high since I was about 22 or 23.
So how do u soften the problem ? Taking AIs and SERMS for estrogen/aromatization control during cycles?
Will herbs like hawthorne berries help?
Ur doc prescribe u any medicines?...
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Genetics play a huge role. i've done some heavy loooong cycles and my BP has never gone above 150/60, it's usually 130/50.
i eat very clean and do alot of cardio.
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Will herbs like hawthorne berries help?
Ur doc prescribe u any medicines?...
I take about 1500mg of Hawthorne Berry daily.
Because of my numerous high readings I'm on a low dose of BP meds.
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Genetics play a huge role. i've done some heavy loooong cycles and my BP has never gone above 150/60, it's usually 130/50.
i eat very clean and do alot of cardio.
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Amen. I do about 2-3 hours of cardio a week & mine's still high (my diet is also pretty clean). My dad had really high blood pressure. Before he got on medication he was exercising & losing weight & his BP was about 220/130 (no joke).
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Amen. I do about 2-3 hours of cardio a week & mine's still high (my diet is also pretty clean). My dad had really high blood pressure. Before he got on medication he was exercising & losing weight & his BP was about 220/130 (no joke).
What type of meds are u on now? Would it be wise in your opinion to throw in BP meds during cycles even though we may not have any high BP?
thanks.
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What type of meds are u on now? Would it be wise in your opinion to throw in BP meds during cycles even though we may not have any high BP?
thanks.
I take 5mg of Norvasc daily. As for taking it during cycle I would get with your doctor about that.
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Well Zaney i can tell that you are not alone on this one. My mothers side of the family has low BP and my dads has high BP. I allways had average-low BP but after i got a lot bigger it went up a bit. It was nothing crazy, but i was getting headaches, which i normally don't get so my doctor suggested ENALAPRIL i take it 5-7.5 mg per day, it is a very good medication and pretty safe too. Now the only time i get headaches is when i'm under HEAVY STRESS. I had to contact 5 farmacies and 4 medical stores before i found an arm cuff that fitted me. When i go to the doc they use that thigh cuff for my arm. Those wrist meters are not good at all.
In case you want to know:
My current stats are:
age: 22
height: 5'10
weight 286 (in the winter it was 304 and i dropped some with the "palumbo diet"
Current average BP readings are: 125-140/60-90
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140/86 IS NOT TIME FOR CLONIDINE DIV.
I take clonidine for a few reasons.........mild hypertension is just one of them.
It's a therapeutic drug that raises GH output during sleep and also acts as a sleep aid.
DIV
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I'm 6"0, 262 .. pretty lean right now..about 10% at the most, and I take diovan for bp... the doc said the bp is most likely cause of my steady weight gain, I've gone from 210 to 260'ish in the last 6-7 years (whlie bodybuilding) he says it's increased stress on my heart and circulatory system.
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I'll tell you guys high BP is nothing to fuck with, even if you do not have any symptoms: dizziness, blurry vision, headaches or general "bad feeling."
I hadn't spoken to my best friend for a while and yesterday i sended him an SMS and today he called me and said that his mother had passed on at age 42 while sleeping. She had popped a vein in her brain. She was a little obese, but nothing really fat, my first thought was high BP.
DAMN.
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I'll tell you guys high BP is nothing to fuck with, even if you do not have any symptoms: dizziness, blurry vision, headaches or general "bad feeling."
I hadn't spoken to my best friend for a while and yesterday i sended him an SMS and today he called me and said that his mother had passed on at age 42 while sleeping. She had popped a vein in her brain. She was a little obese, but nothing really fat, my first thought was high BP.
DAMN.
Ya know, there's no way to know how long we last. Try to keep the BP #'s Sane, but in the end it might not matter.
How about my Pop? Smokes About 3 packs of unfiltered cigs a day from the age of 15. He appears healthy at 67 yrs old.
Perhaps the liter of booze per week he knocks down counteracts the cigs?
Hes still working every day, climbing Ladders ::). Nice work that you can smoke while you do it ya know?
Enjoy your life, no guarantees anyway you cut it.
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Ya know, there's no way to know how long we last.
Enjoy your life, no guarantees anyway you cut it.
Good points trab.
one of my best friends from high school was a cardio machine. ran 5 miles every other day, lifted weights, ate clean, never did any drugs. he died of a heart attack at 20 after jogging 5 miles while preparing to go into the marines.
this woke me up and made me realize that no matter how healthy you are your card could get pulled at any time.
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Good points trab.
one of my best friends from high school was a cardio machine. ran 5 miles every other day, lifted weights, ate clean, never did any drugs. he died of a heart attack at 20 after jogging 5 miles while preparing to go into the marines.
this woke me up and made me realize that no matter how healthy you are your card could get pulled at any time.
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Yup, contrast my description of my dad to a friend of mine's, HE NEVER drank or smoked, never swore. Lived and looked very healthy. Naturally strong big man. Not fat.
Dead of heart attack at about 55.
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I go to the doc 1 time a month, and my BP has been slowly creeping up to where my bottom number just hit 100. I did just go on anadrol last month, so he put me on Lopresor.
The stuff makes me pretty calm. BTW I think the doc knows I am on , but he never has asked.
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Do many of u guys take blood pressure readings while on or off-cycle?
Is there a very significant connection between AAS and hypertension???
I've tested my readings on numerous occassions when off-cycle while visiting the doctor - they were okay (120/80) . However, recently I got a 140/86 .... which I find it hard to fathom as I ve been off for 1 month and I ran similar cycles as compared to the past (approximate 1g Test 8wks + 40mg Dbol 5wks + Tren Acetate 2 wks : all with about 8-10wks off period).
I wonder if its due to my nervousness at the Docs (white coat hypertension)....will be purchasing a home monitoring device soon.
Any guys wanna share experience??
Get a BP device that goes around your arm not your wrist. It is more accurate.
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