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More and more supps popping up featuring beta alanine as a primary ingredient.
Benefits include production of carnosine (which inhibits lactic acid), so slows fatigue and a skin tingle rush. What are your opinions on beta alanine. Do you feel that they offer substantial benefits for bodybuilders as well as endurance athletes? Anybody have experience with beta alanine?
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I've used beta-alanine numerous times experiencing the most success with the product Body Octane from MAN, although I have had friends say that they have experienced similar effects using less expensive products. The natural production of carnosine it provides definitley gives you more endurance especially for post-workout cardio. This makes B-A a great supplement to use while on a cutting diet.
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i will try it from next week on.
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More and more supps popping up featuring beta alanine as a primary ingredient.
Benefits include production of carnosine (which inhibits lactic acid), so slows fatigue and a skin tingle rush. What are your opinions on beta alanine. Do you feel that they offer substantial benefits for bodybuilders as well as endurance athletes? Anybody have experience with beta alanine?
I've used it, from two different products: Phosphagen HP and (currently) naNO Vapor.
The tingly feeling on the skin is weird, at first. But, I think beta-alanine definitely helps kick-start your workouts.
Plus, you can take it immediately before your workouts, so I would give products like naNO Vapor the edge over ones like NO-XPLODE.
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Im gonna try something new for my workout tonight, a new preworkout supp that features beta alanine. Its getting pretty solid feedback. Im wondering if its because of the beta alanine. CEE and KreAlkalyn are the creatines Arginine AKG and citruline malate are the vaso dialators. Ill let you guys know how it goes. If beta alanine is all its cracked up to be.
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Im gonna try something new for my workout tonight, a new preworkout supp that features beta alanine. Its getting pretty solid feedback. Im wondering if its because of the beta alanine. CEE and KreAlkalyn are the creatines Arginine AKG and citruline malate are the vaso dialators. Ill let you guys know how it goes. If beta alanine is all its cracked up to be.
What is it??
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Torque by BodyFuel. Its new... but we carry it, so i got to try it. But i have some of my superpump250 regulars (including myself ;)) raving about it. They say you dont wanna stop training. So im guessing its the beta alanine. Im stoked to try it. Ill let you know how it goes.
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some guys say that combination of beta alanine and creatine are good thing , any one try this way ?
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K that stuff rocked my world. But i took it a little to late at night and it kept me up. I also think that it to be taken 30-40 mins prior to workout to really get that amped feeling the entire workout. The tingle is cool, but the intensity and focus was dope. Ill continue to see what happens, i hear beta alanine is fully working around 5 days.
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I like it too, it's a great supp so far.
Just don't take it on an empty stomach, or the tingling will be very annoying. i took 4g today on an empty stomach in the morning, the tingling still lasts 2 hours later. ;D ;D
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what is the active ingredient? beta-alanine will not make you feel like that, it takes a week or 10 days to build up an effective dose...
is it just loaded with caffeine?
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what is the active ingredient? beta-alanine will not make you feel like that, it takes a week or 10 days to build up an effective dose...
is it just loaded with caffeine?
its starting to be included in preworkout supps. So the one im using is a 20,000mg blend of cee, cre alkalyn, arginine akg, beta alanine, citrullene malate, tyrosine, rhodilia, caffine anhydrous
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its starting to be included in preworkout supps. So the one im using is a 20,000mg blend of cee, cre alkalyn, arginine akg, beta alanine, citrullene malate, tyrosine, rhodilia, caffine anhydrous
the caffeine is what you feel...
have you ever tried to take a couple of caffeine pills before a workout? might have a similar effect for you for a lot less $$$$... beta alanine is interesting though. i have yet to try it but the more research adds up the more it looks like the new creatine.
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It is interesting stuff for sure. But, I am wondering if it is not more of a marketing scam than anything else. I mean how many products are out there that give you an immediate physical response? I mean think about it, you feel the effect so you say to yourself this must be working. From a marketing stand point it is genius, make people feel something and that equates to a product that works or actually does something. In reality it might just make you tingle and the rest is placebo, which is still good. I am alway complaining about not having energy to work out after work, so the guy at the gym gave me some White Flood. I am not sure yet if I will actually buy some, but I am still taking what I have Just to get my TINGLE on:)
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It is interesting stuff for sure. But, I am wondering if it is not more of a marketing scam than anything else. I mean how many products are out there that give you an immediate physical response? I mean think about it, you feel the effect so you say to yourself this must be working. From a marketing stand point it is genius, make people feel something and that equates to a product that works or actually does something. In reality it might just make you tingle and the rest is placebo, which is still good. I am alway complaining about not having energy to work out after work, so the guy at the gym gave me some White Flood. I am not sure yet if I will actually buy some, but I am still taking what I have Just to get my TINGLE on:)
I am trying it now for a few days (not the combo swoletrain uses, only beta-alanine), and i must say it seems to be similar to creatine, it gives you more power, and the burning in the muscles DEFINITLY comes later.
I am able to do more reps on nearly all exercises.
I've tried Arginine and NO boosters and they have done shit, but i would really suggest to try beta-alanine.
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the caffeine is what you feel...
have you ever tried to take a couple of caffeine pills before a workout? might have a similar effect for you for a lot less $$$$... beta alanine is interesting though. i have yet to try it but the more research adds up the more it looks like the new creatine.
So, you think it is the caffine that makes your skin tingle? I have never had that feeling from any other supplement, caffine based or other wise.
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the caffeine is what you feel...
have you ever tried to take a couple of caffeine pills before a workout? might have a similar effect for you for a lot less $$$$... beta alanine is interesting though. i have yet to try it but the more research adds up the more it looks like the new creatine.
intense skin tingle is an immediate sign of beta alainine. Ya i used to be a big fan of eca preworkout. But since im in the supp indusrty i have to stay on top and give everything a try. Many people think supplements are a waste of money. I think that tv's and loud exhaust in your car is a waste of money. Prewokout supps are some of the best supps to hit the market in the last few years. They really give you an edge on your training. Beta alanine seems like the future of supps to me. I agree woo very similar to creatine. I guess all we can do is wait and see, right?
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I also want to try it but I cant seem to find it as a stand alone supplement.
Only as part of another supplement.
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intense skin tingle is an immediate sign of beta alainine. Ya i used to be a big fan of eca preworkout. But since im in the supp indusrty i have to stay on top and give everything a try. Many people think supplements are a waste of money. I think that tv's and loud exhaust in your car is a waste of money. Prewokout supps are some of the best supps to hit the market in the last few years. They really give you an edge on your training. Beta alanine seems like the future of supps to me. I agree woo very similar to creatine. I guess all we can do is wait and see, right?
good points... i think i'm going to have to try it myself... i'll let people know after a month
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I also want to try it but I cant seem to find it as a stand alone supplement.
Only as part of another supplement.
http://www.google.com/products?q=beta+alanine&btnG=Search+Products&scoring=p
I went to www.froogle.com and typed in beta alanine and then hit it to sort to lowest price and GNC has it even for the second cheapest price i think i'm going to go look for it in store though cause i'm guessing it'll be there but i dunno i dunno if this is a shitty brand or does it not matter like creatine?
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I also want to try it but I cant seem to find it as a stand alone supplement.
Only as part of another supplement.
http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=25&pid=6778
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It is interesting stuff for sure. But, I am wondering if it is not more of a marketing scam than anything else. I mean how many products are out there that give you an immediate physical response? I mean think about it, you feel the effect so you say to yourself this must be working. From a marketing stand point it is genius, make people feel something and that equates to a product that works or actually does something. In reality it might just make you tingle and the rest is placebo, which is still good. I am alway complaining about not having energy to work out after work, so the guy at the gym gave me some White Flood. I am not sure yet if I will actually buy some, but I am still taking what I have Just to get my TINGLE on:)
Well, B-A takes like a month to top the carnosine levels to my knowledge. So if there is an immediate effect it's due to something else.
I'll be trying it soon though.
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Apparently to my understanding it takes time to build up in your system , they say optimal results are seen with long term use + 8 weeks.That may just be supplement companies trying to sell more product. I bought bulk beta from a mate its dirt cheap. There is apparently a synergy between creatine and beta. I stopped taking all supp about a month ago and will be trying out some new combos in about a month from not. I have used it before by itself in its raw form. It did help with stamina for sure , got more reps out.
I used 6g a day split into 3 dose. Morning , pre and post work out for 4 weeks then reduced it to a pre work out post work out serving. I was on a lot of different products including gear so I would like to test it by itself.
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So, you think it is the caffine that makes your skin tingle? I have never had that feeling from any other supplement, caffine based or other wise.
Caffeine has nothing to do with it. The first supplement I tried with beta-alanine was Phosphagen Elite, which has no caffeine. And, I definitely got the tingly feeling, particularly in my hands and forearms.
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Caffeine has nothing to do with it. The first supplement I tried with beta-alanine was Phosphagen Elite, which has no caffeine. And, I definitely got the tingly feeling, particularly in my hands and forearms.
intesresting...
bulksupplements.ca sells it in bulk.... pure beta-alanine... cheap too... i think i have to make an order
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sci fit just released a capsule version... Seems cool. 2gms of beta alanine and histadine in there too
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I've read a lot of research on Beta-Alanine and attended seminars by various sports scientists discussing it, and from most of the studies it appears to enhance the benefits of creatine (which is why it is being added to other products) by balancing the Ph environment in the body... the side benefit is the increased carnosine production from Beta-Alanine alone, breaking down lactic acid build up and allowing for extra reps and increased cardio ability.
I have been using it for little over a month now. It is straight BA with phosphates (which oxygenates your blood - also helping cardio levels). I went a week without taking it and was very sorry because that was when the difference was noticable. The "tingle" only lasts maybe 15-30 minutes, and if taken with food isn't very noticable... more of an itchy feeling.
Here is a link to the product
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/eball/black.html
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i ordered some... i will let you know what it does
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why don't they have it at GNC or Vitamin shoppe? that sucks i don't wanna have to order over the internet bleh i mean they carry products that have it in there well there is one i think vitamin shoppe carries its this one
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=E4-1001
what is that its basically beta alanine + dextrose + bcaa's? but it looks like it will go quick......= overpriced?
so if i get some beta alanine pure powder can i just throw it in my protein shake or what does it taste bad or not like i throw creatine in my shake sometimes and it doesn't taste bad......
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why don't they have it at GNC or Vitamin shoppe?
A friend of mine who works at GNC said they will be carrying Black Beta in about a month, which is good because I hate buying from the internet also.
so if i get some beta alanine pure powder can i just throw it in my protein shake or what does it taste bad or not like i throw creatine in my shake sometimes and it doesn't taste bad......
I'm not sure how that would taste... being an amino acid, beta-alanine in powder form could possibly have a bitter taste or cause heartburn. A lot of aminos are nasty tasting in powder form which is why they are mostly found in capsule form so that the capsule can slowly dissolve and reduce GI issues like burping up nasty tastes.
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alright...
i just took my first serving of Horsepower (from ultimate nutrition)... the beta-alanine tingles are real... and they are fuggin weird...
i am going to train in about 2 hours...
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pro source sells pure beta alanine a small container for like 15 bucks i mix it with my superpump and size on works well....helps me with fatigue
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what is this carnosine i see it around at stores but can never find beta-alanine? i see it relates to it somehow? can you take this and combined with food = beta alanine in your body or what?
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order it online... it increases carnosine... read this thread...
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The ON THRESHOLD is a good source of Beta Alanine.
It has 1.6 grams of Beta Alanine, 550 mg of L-Histidine.
I like how the Fruit Fusion flavor tastes. Sampled it at the Olympia and got good feedback. My husband is the only one that was not excited about the taste.
They also have unflavored.
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i just took 25 grams of beta alanine for the fuck of it...and i have the intense sensation of a million little needles being poked in and out of my skin rapidly as fuck all over my body...this shit is insane!!
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I use Primaforces pure Beta Alanine powder, nice and cheap. I've been using it for a few months now and it definitely helps to rep out a few more reps.
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I use Primaforces pure Beta Alanine powder, nice and cheap. I've been using it for a few months now and it definitely helps to rep out a few more reps.
hahah! thats the shit i just drank about 45 mins ago now... the tingle has already gone away, but now my right pec is involuntarily spasming
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The "tingly, itchy" feeling usually on your finger tips and scalp is a sign that there IS actual Beta Alanine in your product (and in high enough quantities). It feels very much like a Niacin flush feeling (those that have used Niacin to get vascularity out before a show will know the feeling I'm talking about). I talked with the doctor that has the patent on Beta Alanine it and for some reason (that science cannot explain), the ingestion of carbs with it seems to remove this tingling sensation?
Beta Alanine converts into Carnosine in the muscles and when there, acts as a free-radical scavenger that buffers lactic acid allowing you to get more reps before "the burn" makes you stop doing more reps. Beta Alanine needs to be taken for 4 weeks straight to let the body's Carnosine levels build up in the muscle cells to a high enough level to exert the desired effect.
Why not just take Carnosine then? Good question. The Carnosine molecule is too large to be absorbed into the muscle cells intact.
Beta Alanine stacks extremely well with Creatine as both have the ability to improve stamina and muscle energetics but through different pathways. EAS has combined the two in the Phosphagen Elite formula (and even added carbs to remove the tingling feeling) but a series of other supplement companies will be adding Beta Alanine to their pre-workout formulas. The only trouble with this is that they may not put enough Beta Alanine in the product to have the desired effect (and some don't list the amount they put in the product on their label) and many of these products contain lots of caffeine and other stimulants in their formula. The trouble is that you need to take Beta Alanine every day for 4 weeks straight to experience the full effect which means you will be cranked up on your stimulant-filled pre-workout drink every day of the week - even on training days! Now this isn't necessarily a bad thing but not everyone likes being wired on non-training days! I take straight Beta Alanine on non-training days to avoid this.
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The "tingly, itchy" feeling usually on your finger tips and scalp is a sign that there IS actual Beta Alanine in your product (and in high enough quantities). It feels very much like a Niacin flush feeling (those that have used Niacin to get vascularity out before a show will know the feeling I'm talking about). I talked with the doctor that has the patent on Beta Alanine it and for some reason (that science cannot explain), the ingestion of carbs with it seems to remove this tingling sensation?
Beta Alanine converts into Carnosine in the muscles and when there, acts as a free-radical scavenger that buffers lactic acid allowing you to get more reps before "the burn" makes you stop doing more reps. Beta Alanine needs to be taken for 4 weeks straight to let the body's Carnosine levels build up in the muscle cells to a high enough level to exert the desired effect.
Why not just take Carnosine then? Good question. The Carnosine molecule is too large to be absorbed into the muscle cells intact.
Beta Alanine stacks extremely well with Creatine as both have the ability to improve stamina and muscle energetics but through different pathways. EAS has combined the two in the Phosphagen Elite formula (and even added carbs to remove the tingling feeling) but a series of other supplement companies will be adding Beta Alanine to their pre-workout formulas. The only trouble with this is that they may not put enough Beta Alanine in the product to have the desired effect (and some don't list the amount they put in the product on their label) and many of these products contain lots of caffeine and other stimulants in their formula. The trouble is that you need to take Beta Alanine every day for 4 weeks straight to experience the full effect which means you will be cranked up on your stimulant-filled pre-workout drink every day of the week - even on training days! Now this isn't necessarily a bad thing but not everyone likes being wired on non-training days! I take straight Beta Alanine on non-training days to avoid this.
good shit. thanks for the info!
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I started using Incarnate about 2 weeks ago, pretty bad ass shit IMO.