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RUSH: Did you see the latest Zogby poll? Congress has a 3% approval number on the war. The president has a 24% approval number. Overall, 55% oppose it, 44% support it, but that's going up, it's going up. That's why the New York Times had to go out and poll their people twice, because they didn't believe the first result. "Well, we know this doesn't make any sense." They went out and polled them again, had to admit: Yep, first poll was right. Three percent! I'll tell you something. You know, the president's negative numbers on this war, we've discussed this on this program on countless previous occasions. I think that a large factor in the dissatisfaction with the Iraq war poll is simply people upset that they don't think that we are kicking butt all across that country. We are the United States of America! We do not lose. We are up against a ragtag bunch of Seventh Century bombers that hide out in various places. A lot of people think if we wanted to take care of these people, we could do it overnight. We're the United States of America. That's where a lot of dissatisfaction comes from. Well, there are some opponents of the war out there as well. But how do you explain the 3% approval Congress has on the war? Do you really think some of you leftists out there, that they're getting 3% because they haven't been able to bring the troops home? Do you think they're getting 3% because they haven't passed their resolutions mandating a specific troop withdrawal date? What do you think explains a 3% -- 3%! -- approval rating in the way Congress is dealing with the war? A caller said, "I'd like to know the margin of error on that Zogby poll that put the Democrat Congress at 3%, to know if it would be possible to say that inside the margin of error, no one in America likes the Democratic-led Congress." The margin of error in the Zogby poll is 1%, not the usual 3%. That's a slick adjustment that Zogby made.
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"ragtag"
What a fcuking idit.
If he's a racist, he shouldn't let everyone know it on his show.
Is he perhaps mildly retarded?
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Did he mention that congress gets the 3% for failing to stop Bush's Iraq War Plans ??? That would be a terrible and most telling fact to leave out... Liberals and Dems are disgusted that the people representing them are failing at this task they consider to be urgent and see as the mission they were tasked with... Perpective... come to think of it, they've failed to stop Bush on everything... Pretty much got up there and spouted off, bent over and let Cheney/Bush tag team them up the rear.
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Did he mention that congress gets the 3% for failing to stop Bush's Iraq War Plans ??? That would be a terrible and most telling fact to leave out... Liberals and Dems are disgusted that the people representing them are failing at this task they consider to be urgent and see as the mission they were tasked with... Perpective... come to think of it, they've failed to stop Bush on everything... Pretty much got up there and spouted off, bent over and let Cheney/Bush tag team them up the rear.
QFT.
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Ohhhhhhh...... Oooooppssss... The misinfo is worse than I thought.... Here are the approval ratings of Congress...
http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm
The 3% poll is on the issue of immigration which I doubt the republicans fair much better on.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1328
But, I give the Dem Congress a 1% for bending over to Bush at every confrontation...
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So he got Rush-a-lowed?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nothing like getting glazed over and bent over by RUSH the right GOD for the ditto-headed brainwashed few.
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With the popularity of the war, I really doubt it would be accurate to say Congress has earned a low approval rating by demanding an end to the war, more likely they receive disapproval for failing in their task to end it.
I strongly suggest people read through this thoroughly and not just pick one single item to dwell on. Overall this gives a very good picture of the pulse...
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So he got Rush-a-lowed?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Nothing like getting glazed over and bent over by RUSH the right GOD for the ditto-headed brainwashed few.
Give it a rest son........here's the link from Zogby via Rush's site in case there were any doubters (as I knew there would be ::))........
Survey shows just 3% of Americans approve of how Congress is handling the war in Iraq; 24% say the same for the President
A majority of American adults (54%) lack confidence in President Bush’s ability as Commander in Chief of the U.S. military, a new UPI/Zogby Interactive poll shows. A majority (60%) said they do not trust the president’s judgment when it comes to the war, while 38% say they have faith in his military decisions.
Just 24% give the president favorable ratings of his performance in handling the war in Iraq, but confidence in Congress is significantly worse – only 3% give Congress positive marks for how it has handled the war. This lack of confidence in Congress cuts across all ideologies. Democrats – some of whom had hoped the now Democrat-led Congress would bring an end to the war in Iraq – expressed overwhelming displeasure with how Congress has handled the war, with 94% giving Congress a negative rating in its handling specifically of that issue.
The online survey was conducted July 13–16, 2007, and included 7,590 respondents. It carries a margin of error of +/– 1.1 percentage points.
To best show support for the troops, 42% believe Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, while 34% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding. Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support. Congress has proposed a bill continuing funding the war in Iraq, but that would require the withdrawal of the majority of troops there by Spring of 2008 – a plan favored by 49% of Americans. But nearly as many (45%) are opposed to this plan.
Slightly more than half (54%) believe the U.S. should set a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and 55% believe the U.S. should begin the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of this year. President Bush has threatened to veto any bill that funds the war in Iraq that also sets a date to begin withdrawing U.S. troops, but 52% would disagree with a presidential veto, while 44% would approve.
More than half (55%) believe if the U.S. withdraws from Iraq that it will be considered a defeat, while 41% disagree.
Half of Americans (51%) believe the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq incites anti-U.S. sentiment and creates a greater likelihood of a terrorist attack within the United States. But 44% believe the U.S. troops in Iraq are fighting terrorists within Iraq so that the U.S. does not have to fight terrorists here at home.
Overall, slightly more than half (55%) said they oppose the war while 44% say they support it. While the vast majority of Democrats are in opposition to the war (93%), slightly more than half of independents (55%) and just 14% of Republicans take the same stance. Self-described conservatives (87%) and very conservatives (93%) show strong support for the war, but support among moderates (25%) is significantly less.
Dissatisfaction with how the war in Iraq is being handled is also considerable among past or current members of the military and their families – nearly three in four (71%) give the president negative ratings on his handling of the war and than half (54%) said they don’t trust the President’s judgment when it comes to the Iraq war. Nearly half (47%) say they lack confidence in Bush’s ability as Commander in Chief – 41% said they have no confidence in him at all. The vast majority (96%) also have a negative view of how Congress has handled the war, but there is disagreement about what Congress should do to support the troops. While half said Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, 29% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding and 16% believe Congress should cut all funding for the war in Iraq and bring the troops home.
Those with military ties are split over setting a timeline for withdrawal – 48% would favor withdrawal but 50% would oppose such a plan. There is a similar split when asked if the U.S. should begin the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of the year – 50% agree while 46% disagree. Slightly more than half (57%) believe withdrawal from Iraq would be considered a defeat, but 38% disagree with that perspective. Two in five (40%) favor a proposal by Congress to continue finding the war in Iraq, but that would require the withdrawal of the majority of troops by the spring of 2008. Half (51%) would support a Presidential veto of a bill that funds the war by sets a timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops, although nearly as many (46%) would oppose a veto.
Those with military ties mirror the feelings of Americans overall. While half (51%) believe U.S. troops in Iraq are fighting terrorists within Iraq so that the U.S. does not have to fight the terrorists domestically, nearly as many (45%) believe the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq incites anti-U.S. sentiment and creates a greater likelihood of a terrorist attack here at home.
Bush also gets low ratings in dealing with veterans – two-thirds (67%) give Bush negative ratings for his performance in providing adequate health care for the veterans who have returned home from the ward in Afghanistan and Iraq. Among those who have or are currently serving in the military and their families, nearly as many agree (62%), while just 30% believe Bush has done a favorable job of providing health care for veterans.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1343
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Give it a rest son........here's the link from Zogby via Rush's site in case there were any doubters (as I knew there would be ::))........
Survey shows just 3% of Americans approve of how Congress is handling the war in Iraq; 24% say the same for the President
A majority of American adults (54%) lack confidence in President Bush’s ability as Commander in Chief of the U.S. military, a new UPI/Zogby Interactive poll shows. A majority (60%) said they do not trust the president’s judgment when it comes to the war, while 38% say they have faith in his military decisions.
Just 24% give the president favorable ratings of his performance in handling the war in Iraq, but confidence in Congress is significantly worse – only 3% give Congress positive marks for how it has handled the war. This lack of confidence in Congress cuts across all ideologies. Democrats – some of whom had hoped the now Democrat-led Congress would bring an end to the war in Iraq – expressed overwhelming displeasure with how Congress has handled the war, with 94% giving Congress a negative rating in its handling specifically of that issue.
The online survey was conducted July 13–16, 2007, and included 7,590 respondents. It carries a margin of error of +/– 1.1 percentage points.
To best show support for the troops, 42% believe Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, while 34% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding. Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support. Congress has proposed a bill continuing funding the war in Iraq, but that would require the withdrawal of the majority of troops there by Spring of 2008 – a plan favored by 49% of Americans. But nearly as many (45%) are opposed to this plan.
Slightly more than half (54%) believe the U.S. should set a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and 55% believe the U.S. should begin the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of this year. President Bush has threatened to veto any bill that funds the war in Iraq that also sets a date to begin withdrawing U.S. troops, but 52% would disagree with a presidential veto, while 44% would approve.
More than half (55%) believe if the U.S. withdraws from Iraq that it will be considered a defeat, while 41% disagree.
Half of Americans (51%) believe the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq incites anti-U.S. sentiment and creates a greater likelihood of a terrorist attack within the United States. But 44% believe the U.S. troops in Iraq are fighting terrorists within Iraq so that the U.S. does not have to fight terrorists here at home.
Overall, slightly more than half (55%) said they oppose the war while 44% say they support it. While the vast majority of Democrats are in opposition to the war (93%), slightly more than half of independents (55%) and just 14% of Republicans take the same stance. Self-described conservatives (87%) and very conservatives (93%) show strong support for the war, but support among moderates (25%) is significantly less.
Dissatisfaction with how the war in Iraq is being handled is also considerable among past or current members of the military and their families – nearly three in four (71%) give the president negative ratings on his handling of the war and than half (54%) said they don’t trust the President’s judgment when it comes to the Iraq war. Nearly half (47%) say they lack confidence in Bush’s ability as Commander in Chief – 41% said they have no confidence in him at all. The vast majority (96%) also have a negative view of how Congress has handled the war, but there is disagreement about what Congress should do to support the troops. While half said Congress should fully fund the war in Iraq to maintain current troop levels, 29% would favor attaching requirements for phased withdrawal to Iraq war funding and 16% believe Congress should cut all funding for the war in Iraq and bring the troops home.
Those with military ties are split over setting a timeline for withdrawal – 48% would favor withdrawal but 50% would oppose such a plan. There is a similar split when asked if the U.S. should begin the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of the year – 50% agree while 46% disagree. Slightly more than half (57%) believe withdrawal from Iraq would be considered a defeat, but 38% disagree with that perspective. Two in five (40%) favor a proposal by Congress to continue finding the war in Iraq, but that would require the withdrawal of the majority of troops by the spring of 2008. Half (51%) would support a Presidential veto of a bill that funds the war by sets a timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops, although nearly as many (46%) would oppose a veto.
Those with military ties mirror the feelings of Americans overall. While half (51%) believe U.S. troops in Iraq are fighting terrorists within Iraq so that the U.S. does not have to fight the terrorists domestically, nearly as many (45%) believe the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq incites anti-U.S. sentiment and creates a greater likelihood of a terrorist attack here at home.
Bush also gets low ratings in dealing with veterans – two-thirds (67%) give Bush negative ratings for his performance in providing adequate health care for the veterans who have returned home from the ward in Afghanistan and Iraq. Among those who have or are currently serving in the military and their families, nearly as many agree (62%), while just 30% believe Bush has done a favorable job of providing health care for veterans.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1343
A majority of American adults (54%) lack confidence in President Bush’s ability as Commander in Chief of the U.S. military, a new UPI/Zogby Interactive poll shows.
A majority (60%) said they do not trust the president’s judgment when it comes to the war
Slightly more than half (54%) believe the U.S. should set a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and 55% believe the U.S. should begin the phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of this year.
(45%) believe the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq incites anti-U.S. sentiment and creates a greater likelihood of a terrorist attack here at home.
Survey shows just 3% of Americans approve of how Congress is handling the war in Iraq
I'm thinking maybe if the Congress ended the war their ratings would go up
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"Democrats – some of whom had hoped the now Democrat-led Congress would bring an end to the war in Iraq – expressed overwhelming displeasure with how Congress has handled the war, with 94% giving Congress a negative rating in its handling specifically of that issue."
That about sums it up for me... It puts the 3% into the perspective it should be seen in.
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It tells me what I've been saying all along, Democrats have no business being in command in a wartime situation, they have no plan, no solution exept to just quit and show the enemy we are weak!
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I think I'm going to have to call Zogby out on this poll. Sure, I give them low marks for specific reasons, but this poll is so wildly off the mark of all the other polls out there, that usually signals something is wrong.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
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It tells me what I've been saying all along, Democrats have no business being in command in a wartime situation, they have no plan, no solution exept to just quit and show the enemy we are weak!
The main point still being they get such low marks because a majority of dems are pissed at their inability to stop the war. That's not quite the picture Rush painted.
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I'm thinking maybe if the Congress ended the war their ratings would go up
And show the world that we are weak?? This isn't a highschool bully were fighting!!
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I predict independents are going to do well in the near future :P That's if there is another election, I have serious doubts :'(
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And show the world that we are weak?? This isn't a highschool bully were fighting!!
Joe, you're projecting your own mindset when you make comments like that
We've already won the war
No more Saddam
No WMD's
A government seems to be just a inept as our own.
Now all we're doing is trying to keep the locals from killing each others
Staying in Iraq weakens our ability to defend or pursue other threats
Time to get out
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Joe, you're projecting your own mindset when you make comments like that
We've already won the war
No more Saddam
No WMD's
A government seems to be just a inept as our own.
Now all we're doing is trying to keep the locals from killing each others
Staying in Iraq weakens our ability to defend or pursue other threats
Time to get out
So you think if we just get out, the terrorists will go away and leave us alone? Don't forget, they struck first. They will NEVER go away, they have and have had cells here and around the world for along time, they've said it a million times they wasn't us destroyed.
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So you think if we just get out, the terrorists will go away and leave us alone? Don't forget, they struck first. They will NEVER go away, they have and have had cells here and around the world for along time, they've said it a million times they wasn't us destroyed.
There are very few "terrorists" in Iraq and the ones that are there had nothing to do with 9-11
The real and GROWING problem is in Pakistan (remember they actually have WMD's in that country) and also parts of Afghanistan
BTW - if they already have cells here (as you've suggested) then I guess our efforts in Iraq are not preventing them from coming here and attacking us
There is no doubt that Islamic fundamentalists are a threat but the global war on terror is more about making you feel scared than anything else
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It tells me what I've been saying all along, Democrats have no business being in command in a wartime situation, they have no plan, no solution exept to just quit and show the enemy we are weak!
So you think if we just get out, the terrorists will go away and leave us alone? Don't forget, they struck first. They will NEVER go away, they have and have had cells here and around the world for along time, they've said it a million times they wasn't us destroyed.
Only an idiot would still support and think the war in Iraq was a good move. Whether we are there or not, the terrorists will exist. The cost we have had to pay for the return we've got in Iraq is way out of proportion, if all that money and time were spent securing our boarders and focusing on Al Queda in Afghanistan and Pakistan we'd have permanently knocked Al Queda in the equivalent of a common street gang. But no, we had to satisfy a president's hidden agenda.
You can on and on about congress and their rating towards immigration or the war or what ever. IT's all BUSH who even got us to this point.
And people like you, far removed from the sacrifices other make for a stupid incompetent idiot president, who still faithfully support the war and can not comprehend the ramifications of our actions in the future becuase of blunt instrument mentality.
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It tells me what I've been saying all along, Democrats have no business being in command in a wartime situation, they have no plan, no solution exept to just quit and show the enemy we are weak!
Franklin D Roosevelt was in command during WWII.
How do you think he did?
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Different Dem party back then....hell Kennedy and his band were different . It all went south after LBJ. If Congress would do anything their numbers would go up.
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Different Dem party back then....hell Kennedy and his band were different . It all went south after LBJ. If Congress would do anything their numbers would go up.
true that. texas used to be democrat . . . like the rest of the south.
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true that. texas used to be democrat . . . like the rest of the south.
and then good ol' Tom 'gerrymandering' Delay came along :D
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and then good ol' Tom 'gerrymandering' Delay came along :D
actually, it happened before his time . . . but I wish someone would tar and feather that guy.
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why can't you say c o c k s u c k e r on this board?
and it wasn't gerrymandering that turned Texas around . . . it was Democrat LBJ allowing Earl Warren to finally finish Reconstruction . . . a Republican project to begin with.
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actually, it happened before his time . . . but I wish someone would tar and feather that ####.
he played something of a role with his redistricting efforts... if you hate that co cksucker, you're ok in my book :D
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Only an idiot would still support and think the war in Iraq was a good move. Whether we are there or not, the terrorists will exist. The cost we have had to pay for the return we've got in Iraq is way out of proportion, if all that money and time were spent securing our boarders and focusing on Al Queda in Afghanistan and Pakistan we'd have permanently knocked Al Queda in the equivalent of a common street gang. But no, we had to satisfy a president's hidden agenda.
You can on and on about congress and their rating towards immigration or the war or what ever. IT's all BUSH who even got us to this point.
And people like you, far removed from the sacrifices other make for a stupid incompetent idiot president, who still faithfully support the war and can not comprehend the ramifications of our actions in the future becuase of blunt instrument mentality.
Well stated.
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Different Dem party back then....hell Kennedy and his band were different . It all went south after LBJ. If Congress would do anything their numbers would go up.
You're right. FDR was a liberal's liberal. He was such a left-winger his own people thought him to be a traitor to his class.
And don't forget the right wing coup against his presidency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot