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Title: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 05:17:26 PM
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Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 05, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
His face looks cartoonish in the second pic.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: corinth on August 05, 2007, 05:44:26 PM
I still can't believe he's Mr. Olympia.  And more than likely soon to win again.

What a huge step backwards.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: coltrane on August 05, 2007, 05:46:51 PM
I still can't believe he's Mr. Olympia.  And more than likely soon to win again.

What a huge step backwards.


and who do you suggest to be Mr. o?
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 05, 2007, 05:48:56 PM
I still can't believe he's Mr. Olympia.  And more than likely soon to win again.

What a huge step backwards.

He's very well conditioned and huge.. Plus his waist is not a problem as his shoulders are huge.

No real weaknesses. Ronnie on the other hand had a massive alien belly and disproportioned muscles due to injuries.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 05, 2007, 05:51:56 PM
The 'charisma' of the man just shines through in those pics!

Jay is surely on track for another Mr. O.  He will win in on personality alone!  Oh yeah, having a massive, oversized pumpkin for a head helps too!

And also, can Pro Bodybuilders claim a tax-deduction on all those syringes they use?
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: kawaks on August 05, 2007, 06:13:16 PM
The 'charisma' of the man just shines through in those pics!

Jay is surely on track for another Mr. O.  He will win in on personality alone!  Oh yeah, having a massive, oversized pumpkin for a head helps too!

And also, can Pro Bodybuilders claim a tax-deduction on all those syringes they use?

Jay 'the fridge' Culter has the charisma of a pork chop and apparently Weider contract 'disposables' are non-tax deductable!
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Mr Gethin on August 05, 2007, 06:39:51 PM
I like the first cover. Looking forward to the champ routines read, maybe there will be something in it to make me look better than already do, if thats possible.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: CARTEL on August 05, 2007, 06:43:36 PM
I can't wait to read the article on getting horseshoe triceps.

I bet it has some brand new pushing and pulling exercises that have never been seen or done before  :)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: gordiano on August 05, 2007, 06:55:49 PM
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The questions is.....do either of them have personality?  ???
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: The Squadfather on August 05, 2007, 07:21:42 PM
hahahaha "horseshoe triceps 5 ways to nail 'em".
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: tweeter on August 05, 2007, 07:31:29 PM
hahahaha "horseshoe triceps 5 ways to nail 'em".
We can also learn how to get Arnold's pecs in this magazine.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: The Squadfather on August 05, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
We can also learn how to get Arnold's pecs in this magazine.
hahahaha "10 ways to please your man in bed by Scott Markey" ;D
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 05, 2007, 07:47:48 PM
hahahaha "10 ways to please your man in bed by Scott Markey" ;D

Markey is like the sensi of gay for pay.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: The Squadfather on August 05, 2007, 07:49:16 PM
Markey is like the sensi of gay for pay.
hahahaha, he blows Derek Anthony................. ........................ ........................ .............out of the water. ;D
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: marcus on August 05, 2007, 08:05:06 PM
So Jay Cutler wins the O again, who saw that coming.  ::)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: saucetradomous on August 05, 2007, 08:46:08 PM
I don't like either cover... The second one looks touched up and smoothed over like someone else said "cartoonish".  The first one is just too bland.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 09:08:18 PM
I'd title them "Angry Jay" and "Funny Jay".

His personality is more of a "Hardworking Jay".

It'd be a better cover to see a hardworking Jay, focused on title defense.  instead, he either looks pissed (Why? He won!) or smug (which isn't appealing once an underdog wins).

I'd say they should go with focused Jay.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: beatmaster on August 05, 2007, 09:15:45 PM

are they gonna use those pics? damn.....

Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 05, 2007, 09:17:41 PM



Jay's abs are airbrushed in that first pic!!!  :o

I'm sorry, they're not that deep!   ;D
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: tweeter on August 05, 2007, 09:21:53 PM
Second one almost looks like a drawing.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
Jay's abs are airbrushed in that first pic!!!  :o
I'm sorry, they're not that deep!   ;D

Those abs look incredible there!  Oblique nice and tight too.  Looks like Jay has recovered that V-taper.  He's cut to shreds too.  If his lower abs look that sliced on contest day, it's over.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 05, 2007, 09:31:11 PM


LOL, nice close-up!  ;D

If you compare it to the second pic (where they forgot the airbrush) he's in more of a crunched position, but his abs are less defined?!  ::)



Whatever...but Jay on the cover of FLEX a few months before the O tells me who to put my money on.  Poor Ronnie  :(
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 09:34:43 PM
I'm no photoshop expert, so i can't comment.

Getting a FLEX cover on the mag the month before the show... Jay has to be feeling good right now.  If the cover was "Ronnie's path to redemption", I could see Jay being nervous.  Or even a split cover with Ronnie.  But it's all about Jay.  He has to be feeling good.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 05, 2007, 09:42:02 PM
Oh, he's feeling great!
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2007, 09:43:45 PM
Oh, he's feeling great!

I bet.  it's his to lose. 
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 05, 2007, 10:26:21 PM


Jay's abs are airbrushed in that first pic!!!  :o

I'm sorry, they're not that deep!   ;D

no they aren't...those are for real

C
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 05, 2007, 10:35:34 PM
Nevermind Chris, you know someone had to say that.
Great cover btw.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: musclehedz on August 06, 2007, 01:23:44 AM
I still can't believe he's Mr. Olympia.  And more than likely soon to win again.

What a huge step backwards.

Why? There is no other bodybuilder on the planet as big, symmetrical and flawless like him.
He deserves it.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 10:54:06 AM
no they aren't...those are for real

C

dont you work for flex?

i think youre lying.  those abs look funky
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: chainsaw on August 06, 2007, 11:03:19 AM
For all you guys that think just because this picture came out now that this photoshoot was recent.  HAhahahahahahah.  I asked Jay himself, and he told me that Most if not all the photoshoots are done right before/after the Olympia when they are in Prime Condition.


Thats Show business for everyone in the back woods.  Smoke and Mirrors.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: kmhphoto on August 06, 2007, 01:09:04 PM
For all you guys that think just because this picture came out now that this photoshoot was recent.  HAhahahahahahah.  I asked Jay himself, and he told me that Most if not all the photoshoots are done right before/after the Olympia when they are in Prime Condition.


Thats Show business for everyone in the back woods.  Smoke and Mirrors.

That shot was taken on Monday 30th July 2007. Unless Canon have introduced in camera photoshopping with a recent firmware upgrade, those abs are real.

Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 01:15:48 PM
That shot was taken on Monday 30th July 2007. Unless Canon have introduced in camera photoshopping with a recent firmware upgrade, those abs are real.

Care to post your original full size photos so we can confirm they're not photoshopped?

I didn't think so, Kevin.  ;)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: AVBG on August 06, 2007, 01:32:45 PM
props to Flex & AMI.. They have come a long way in recent times with their covers. I think in the last 12 months there have been some cool covers (including the recent M&F Arnold).
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 06, 2007, 01:36:14 PM
dont you work for flex?

i think youre lying.  those abs look funky

Trust me, I wouldn't bother lying to you about it, retouching is often a part of the magazine industry, but im that image his abs aren't retouched... and if I was to retouch the abs, I wouldn't add those deep lines...which, in effect give more of an illusion of folds...I would tend to go more for a slight depressed look, and some raised highlights.

Yes, I work at Flex, and I was at the shoot that happened just last week...I guess either you like the cover or you don't, but that is 2 things wrong in this thread so far as retouching and shoot date.

It's pretty funny how may "photoshop experts" we have here that don't seem to know for sure what a retouched image looks like. There was some work done to the images...the background was made a little darker so he popped a bit, the left side of the background as extended so that he could be moved to the right a bit, and there was a slight adjustment to skin tones and highlights.

Aside from that...those images ARE Jay Cutler...8-9 weeks out from this years Olympia.

C

Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 06, 2007, 03:52:49 PM


Aside from that...those images ARE Jay Cutler...8-9 weeks out from this years Olympia.

C



All joking aside, IF that is Jay 8-9 weeks out, his lower abs are already deeper than they were at the 2001 Olympia!!  :o 

Those lower abs cast more shadow than the grand canyon  ;D
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: marcus on August 06, 2007, 03:58:11 PM
Peaked bicep with a stretched arm. That answers that question.  :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=162182.0;attach=186107;image)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 06, 2007, 04:22:15 PM
Peaked bicep with a stretched arm. That answers that question.  :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=162182.0;attach=186107;image)

answers which question?

arm was partially stretched to hold contraction and give shape to shoulder (if you look there is still a bend at the elbow), but still give the effect we wanted of a pseudo-heisman look

C
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Pete Dimano on August 06, 2007, 04:30:06 PM
There was some work done to the images...the background was made a little darker so he popped a bit, the left side of the background as extended so that he could be moved to the right a bit, and there was a slight adjustment to skin tones and highlights.

Were the abs touched up, C?
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: corinth on August 06, 2007, 04:31:46 PM
Neither of those covers is good.

Jay just looks silly when he's animated.

It just doesn't fit him.
Title: Pumpkin-Head-Gutler; bringing the bloat and the charisma!
Post by: New Hank Wood on August 06, 2007, 05:06:25 PM
Time for a reality check; Pro Bodybuilding is an industry built around deceit, falsehoods, scams, charades, innuendo, short-guys and gossip!   Oh yeah, they use a lot of syringes as well !

Pro Bodybuilding; the most despised and loathed pageant on the planet!  Thank God for its huge latent-homosexual fan-base, or this so-called sport would still be a residing in the filthy back-waters!

Oh yeah, Pumpkin-Head-Gutler will win another O... He brings the bloat and the charisma!  

Peace.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Special Ed on August 06, 2007, 07:24:56 PM
I like the Heisman cover:
(http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/5958/HeismanTrophy.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=162182.0;attach=186107;image)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 06, 2007, 08:35:56 PM
Were the abs touched up, C?

nope, those are the real deal

C
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: cswol on August 06, 2007, 08:47:56 PM
despite if jay is in condition, or if he is not as good as ronnie, its not looking too good for ronnie......looks like it might be a mlb act, how they did canseco/86'd.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 06, 2007, 08:53:38 PM
I would like to mention that yes these shots were taken 9 weeks out from the O, not last year right after the O and the reason why they decided to make a cover with Jay so early on is because when Flex saw the shots I took from Jay at 10 weeks out and saw his condition and size, they organized a last minute shoot for a cover, which has never been done before with any other champion, not even Dorian, usually, the shoots are done either 2 weeks before the contest or right after, this is a first.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: pumpher on August 06, 2007, 08:54:47 PM
Maybe they should have photoshopped some definition into his arms  :P
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 06, 2007, 09:43:02 PM
Maybe they should have photoshopped some definition into his arms  :P

let's see what the other guys arms look like 9 weeks out from a show...give him a little bit of a break  :-\
Title: Re: Pumpkin-Head-Gutler; bringing the bloat and the charisma!
Post by: Earl1972 on August 06, 2007, 09:48:29 PM


  Thank God for its huge latent-homosexual fan-base, or this so-called sport would still be a residing in the filthy back-waters!



by saying this and posting here on getbig you are admitting to being gay, hanky :P

E
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Mars on August 07, 2007, 02:11:43 AM
Yes if he would had some veins on his arms he looked much better, now its if theres some oil in it.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Bluto on August 07, 2007, 02:14:47 AM
both covers are boring as hell
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Luolamies on August 07, 2007, 03:47:54 AM
It's funny when these guys appear on the cover of FLEX, because FLEX has never even touch the surface of what is really going on in pro bb. Flex only has articles like take zink to get huge! I agree that zink is important, but take a cycle of zink and take a cycle of anadrol and you see my point.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Get Rowdy on August 07, 2007, 04:00:49 AM
Jay's brachioradialis looks REALLY short in the second pic.  Al Beckles style.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Bear on August 07, 2007, 07:03:11 AM
Those abs look incredible there!  Oblique nice and tight too.  Looks like Jay has recovered that V-taper.  He's cut to shreds too.  If his lower abs look that sliced on contest day, it's over.

If his face is half drawn on to look cartoonishly expressive then how altered must his body be?!
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: rockyfortune on August 07, 2007, 07:18:19 AM
looking great jay...
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: rockyfortune on August 07, 2007, 07:22:41 AM
jay..back in the day...
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 07, 2007, 07:25:37 AM
I still can't believe he's Mr. Olympia.  And more than likely soon to win again.

What a huge step backwards.

Sad but true.

WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Mars on August 07, 2007, 07:26:28 AM
He should retire, his carreer is over.
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 07, 2007, 07:41:42 AM
If his face is half drawn on to look cartoonishly expressive then how altered must his body be?!

His face wasn't even retouched...wow, you guys are seriously brutal.

I'm glad there are so many photography experts here  :-\

whatever, it's too bad that we could never actually use the boards for honest feedback. That could probably help the industry.

C
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Brutal_1 on August 07, 2007, 10:02:25 AM


The "brutal" honesty of getbig is to point out the bs blindly accepted by the general public   ;)
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: scribbler on August 07, 2007, 04:25:28 PM

The "brutal" honesty of getbig is to point out the bs blindly accepted by the general public   ;)

never mind that in this case all the supposed experts are wrong about what was or wasn't retouched?

C
Title: Re: Two new Jay Cutler FLEX covers
Post by: Livewire on August 07, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
never mind that in this case all the supposed experts are wrong about what was or wasn't retouched?

IF Flex photoshopped their covers...

would you admit it, C?


;)