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Does anyone have pics of the 1990 Olympia where they implemented drug testing? I just read on another thread that Lee haney was a shadow of his former self, and I remember that Labrada looked like he should have won. Anyone have pics from this show? (90 was the year, correct?)
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Does anyone have pics of the 1990 Olympia where they implemented drug testing? I just read on another thread that Lee haney was a shadow of his former self, and I remember that Labrada looked like he should have won. Anyone have pics from this show? (90 was the year, correct?)
Was that the year Shawn Ray tested positive?
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Was that the year Shawn Ray tested positive?
I think so - At the 90 Arnold Classic - the "natural" Mike Ashley was given the win. Ashley's pic is hanging high on Victor Conte's wall, so we know he clearly had help. It's the 1990 Olympia that I'm curious about. I'd like to see what haney looked like in 1989, vs. 1990, to see the decline in one year
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For what did they test? heroine and coffee?
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I've got it on tape from ESPN, Haney was down like 20lbs, not as hard as he was and arms and legs looked really shallow. Labrada looked good but he was a little softer than he was in the past. Ray and Mike Christian looked great. Gaspari was 5th and he was waaaay down from what he was doing at the time. Benfatto looked incredible IMO, legs were a little smallish but his upper body was great, ripped to shreds, he probably compared well to everyone in terms of upper body developement, but lost out when it came to legs.
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For what did they test? heroine and coffee?
hahahha for real...i heard the drug test was multiple choice ...
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For what did they test? heroine and coffee?
yep, basically everything but gear.
most oil based roids show up for up to a year, especially the nandrolones.
if it was legite, everyone would have failed.
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yep, basically everything but gear.
most oil based roids show up for up to a year, especially the nandrolones.
if it was legite, everyone would have failed.
well it was obvious they didn't test for everything, if anyone can do it post a pic from the 90 arnold of Mike Christian and then one from the Olympia, at the Arnold I could almost believe he was kinda clean cause he was waaay down in size and hardness but by the time the O rolled around he was probably at or near his alltime best.
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hahahha for real...i heard the drug test was multiple choice ...
Official IFBB drug test excerpt:
Which of the following is a good steroid for cutting:
1. Dianabol
2. Stanozolol
3. Testosterone
4. Parabolan
5. I don't give a fuck, i take all of them.
;D ;D ;D
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well it was obvious they didn't test for everything, if anyone can do it post a pic from the 90 arnold of Mike Christian and then one from the Olympia, at the Arnold I could almost believe he was kinda clean cause he was waaay down in size and hardness but by the time the O rolled around he was probably at or near his alltime best.
attempting to predict when these guys were clean based on their condition is futile.
christian, for example, was known to use a lot of coke and was extremely haphazard with his training. if he ever got his shit together for longer than a few weeks he might have given lee a run for his money.
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Anyone have pics from this show?
Download the DivX
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Official IFBB drug test excerpt:
Which of the following is a good steroid for cutting:
1. Dianabol
2. Stanozolol
3. Testosterone
4. Parabolan
5. I don't give a fuck, i take all of them.
;D ;D ;D
2/3/4
Test Prop. for 3.
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2/3/4
Test Prop. for 3.
Cool! You passed the IFBB drug test and can call yourself natural now. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Cool! You passed the IFBB drug test and can call yourself natural now. ;D ;D ;D ;D
hahahahaha.
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Does anyone have pics of the 1990 Olympia where they implemented drug testing? I just read on another thread that Lee haney was a shadow of his former self, and I remember that Labrada looked like he should have won. Anyone have pics from this show? (90 was the year, correct?)
I remember back in the now defunct WBF days, Vince McMahon was having all the atheletes drug tested because of his indictment back in 1994. Mike Christian, Lou Ferrigno, Mike Quiinn and the rest of these great bbdr's all looked ridiculous off gas and on stage. Sad.
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I remember back in the now defunct WBF days, Vince McMahon was having all the atheletes drug tested because of his indictment back in 1994. Mike Christian, Lou Ferrigno, Mike Quiinn and the rest of these great bbdr's all looked ridiculous off gas and on stage. Sad.
ferrigno never competed with the wbf.
you're right about the rest though. that was about as natural as i'd ever seen of the top tier but it was obvious that some ie strydom, jim quinn knew something about getting past the test because their condition didn't suffer to the same extent and before any misguided fool tells me that maybe they didn't need gear so much, have a look at the pic squadfather displayed here of a clean strydom.
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Haney was off that year, but Labrada looked good, so did Shawn Ray (career best shape up to that point) and Mike Christian (also probably career best shape).
the winner was off
but places 2 to 4 were all in great shape.
rich gaspari, who placed 5th, was a little off too.
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attempting to predict when these guys were clean based on their condition is futile.
christian, for example, was known to use a lot of coke and was extremely haphazard with his training. if he ever got his shit together for longer than a few weeks he might have given lee a run for his money.
I thought it was Heroin not Coke if im mistaken im sorry.
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why the drug test for 1990
after that.................... .... nothing
imagine if drugs test was still done every year
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http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=3534.0
There is lots of pics here if you are a member. I cant be arsed posting them
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I think Shawn tested positive for Deca.
Just a point of note Dan Duchane bragged in a interview that he helped quite a few Pros cheat on drug tests for the 1990.
So how many where actually drug free and not just using less drugs ???
By the way Lee Labrada should definitely have won that year.
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
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For what did they test? heroine and coffee?
Damn Bodybuilders and their Jane Eyre novels.
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
I believe for stanazol it's irrelevant at this point.at 204 was as close to perfection and muscle fullness you could get.fr most muscular ranks as one of the best on a bber had all the muscle full/mass to hit that pose.
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think shawn just failed a test for diuretics. dunno what year. but his price money was not given to him.
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
Sorry my bad.
I must go check my magazines again
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
hahaha
no you didn't test positive for deca but i challenge you to state that you didn't test positive for an anabolic steroid?
shawn won the arnold classic and was subsequently disqualified for testing positive for a steroid, not a diuretic (can't remember which steroid and since shawn is being coy i'll leave it at that). mike ashley was awarded the victory.
seems shawn was always destined to be the bride's maid. ;D
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hahaha
no you didn't test positive for deca but i challenge you to state that you didn't test positive for an anabolic steroid?
shawn won the arnold classic and was subsequently disqualified for testing positive for a steroid, not a diuretic (can't remember which steroid and since shawn is being coy i'll leave it at that). mike ashley was awarded the victory.
seems shawn was always destined to be the bride's maid. ;D
actually i'm pretty certain the steroid in question was winstrol.
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The topic of the Thread is 1990 Mr. Olympia not the 1990 Arnold Classic ::)
Sometimes reading the Header BEFORE you post, saves people the time and headache of having to POST Repeatedly so Knuckleheads like yourself can fully embrace what is being discussed here :-*
Tool ::)
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The topic of the Thread is 1990 Mr. Olympia not the 1990 Arnold Classic ::)
Sometimes reading the Header BEFORE you post, saves people the time and headache of having to POST Repeatedly so Knuckleheads like yourself can fully embrace what is being discussed here :-*
Tool ::)
so, care to answer my challenge on the a.c shawn? ;D :-*
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seems shawn was always destined to be the bride's maid. ;D
Correct me if im wrong but who WON the '91 Arnold?????????
Oh thats correct SHAWN RAY..................... .............. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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The 1990 Arnold is not to be challenged. :-\
The results are in and have never been disputed. They are public record and available for the world to see.
Time to get a life son and move on. ::)
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The 1990 Arnold is not to be challenged. :-\
The results are in and have never been disputed. They are public record and available for the world to see.
Time to get a life son and move on. ::)
bodybuilders use steroids? i'm shocked, shocked....I thought it was all about genetics, muscle insertions, and bone structure...jeez...i'm a bit bummed about hearing this news.
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I still can't figure out how Yates won the 94 Mr. O. ??? Was the judges drugged before they judge the contest? :-\
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I still can't figure out how Yates won the 94 Mr. O. ??? Was the judges drugged before they judge the contest? :-\
You are one ignorant mofo.
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
Shawn did anyone fail that year?
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You are one ignorant mofo.
lol
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Shawn did anyone fail that year?
I think 6 guys were DQ'd...
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I remember the show and had Mike Christian winning the whole thing. He didn't look "off" the sauce.
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so, care to answer my challenge on the a.c shawn? ;D :-*
even a 10yr old kid can find the answer on the net. get a life, beast.
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I remember the show and had Mike Christian winning the whole thing. He didn't look "off" the sauce.
Mike Christian didn't win shit.
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The 1990 Arnold is not to be challenged. :-\
The results are in and have never been disputed. They are public record and available for the world to see.
Time to get a life son and move on. ::)
that's cool, shawn.
just thought you might have been trying to do a bit of revisionist story telling with your deca comment and i thought i'd stir you up a bit. ;D
what was the reason the ifbb gave for abandoning drug testing after just one year?
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that's cool, shawn.
just thought you might have been trying to do a bit of revisionist story telling with your deca comment and i thought i'd stir you up a bit. ;D
what was the reason the ifbb gave for abandoning drug testing after just one year?
They were too easy, so nobody failed. Then they knew everybody was natural and they went on as usual. ;D
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They were too easy, so nobody failed. Then they knew everybody was natural and they went on as usual. ;D
true
afterall, guys like haney, ray and coleman don't need drugs, they have god. :D
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true
afterall, guys like haney, ray and coleman don't need drugs, they have god. :D
u can have all the gods in the world.....
but they'd still look better than u. :)
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u can have all the gods in the world.....
but they'd still look better than u. :)
ha...hi...hmmm... ::)
tell me something zaney, were you born this stupid or did you have to take lessons?
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I remember DeMey, Benazziza, JJ Marsh were amoung the 7 guys who failed int Test in 90 at the Mr. O.
S. Ray
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240 is Back, how do you know about the picture of M Ashley hanging on the wall of Victor office?
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I saw the 1990 prejudging and thought Christian should have placed higher. Interesting year with the WBBF and all.
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240 is Back, how do you know about the picture of M Ashley hanging on the wall of Victor office?
He was doing a 20/20 interview about a year ago. His photo was hanging among those on the wall of Victor's athletes that he showed off. I thought it was pretty telling. There's always the possibility that all he did was work with Mike on things like protein timing and zinc/magnesium properties.
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240 is Back, do you have any information on the Balco ret?
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I remember DeMey, Benazziza, JJ Marsh were amoung the 7 guys who failed int Test in 90 at the Mr. O.
S. Ray
Yes, I was training with JJ at that time, he was pissed but he knew better!
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240 is Back, sorry I meant Balco Rat
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He was doing a 20/20 interview about a year ago. His photo was hanging among those on the wall of Victor's athletes that he showed off. I thought it was pretty telling. There's always the possibility that all he did was work with Mike on things like protein timing and zinc/magnesium properties.
There was also a MD interview with pics and in one of the pics an autographed Mike Ashley 8 * 10 is framed on the wall. Funny!
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Yes, I was training with JJ at that time, he was pissed but he knew better!
JJ was nicest guy guest pose a show i did early nineties,huge legs,great poser.
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Does anyone have pics of the 1990 Olympia where they implemented drug testing? I just read on another thread that Lee haney was a shadow of his former self, and I remember that Labrada looked like he should have won. Anyone have pics from this show? (90 was the year, correct?)
It was 90 and I remember watching it I think on ESPN Live and thought Mike Christian should have won Haney was smaller and smooth and did not look good at all Labrada should have been 2nd and Haney it least 3rd
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That year Mike christian also looked good (for me better than Haney in 1990). Normally Christian or
Labrada deserved to win the 1990 Mr. Olympia. Haney kept the title because he was the undefeated champ since 1984.
But honestly that contest was not a "drug free competition", it was simple, "how to deal with the test situation". 1991 Haney was comming back at absolute best. Why test when everybody knows that all where the most time of the year "on the juice" ?
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That year Mike christian also looked good (for me better than Haney in 1990). Normally Christian or
Labrada deserved to win the 1990 Mr. Olympia. Haney kept the title because he was the undefeated champ since 1984.
But honestly that contest was not a "drug free competition", it was simple, "how to deal with the test situation". 1991 Haney was comming back at absolute best. Why test when everybody knows that all where the most time of the year "on the juice" ?
haney was great in 91 and yates was having not of that 'drug test" olympia,the new dog with new tricks.
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I passed the test at the Olympia in 90 and finished 3rd at 204lbs. :-*
I've never tested positive for Deca.
Just the facts 8)
go buy another silly statue about a culture that you could never understand and put it in your crapshack