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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Rampage on August 08, 2007, 05:41:32 AM
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2 points
1) His Shoulders
2) His back (every1 knows this)
2 key points where his physique is different from the past.Everyone is focused on the back and realise that his back is weeak now , but you ask me his shoulders arent wide enough as they were ¬ enuf to displace cutler right now.Thats a key diff
check it out....
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Nobody expects him to win unless Jay, Victor, Melvin and Dexter couldn't make it to the show
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2 points
1) His Shoulders
2) His back (every1 knows this)
2 key points where his physique is different from the past.Everyone is focused on the back and realise that his back is weeak now , but you ask me his shoulders arent wide enough as they were ¬ enuf to displace cutler right now.Thats a key diff
check it out....
His back looks fine to me in that third pic.
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That's funny you're right he seems to be getting more and more traps and less delts. Of course the increasingly prominent traps and gut do not help his appearance of width, and he was never naturally wide. Also, in his most recent video he seems to begin military press then finds it too painful and begins smith machine presses on a relatively light weight. I cannot be alone in observing this. Instead of doing the 160s on dumbell shoulder press like in Redemption, he's struggling with 270 on smith. I would still argue, however, that his awesome shape and detail still allow him to present a challenge to Cutler's massively wide, but comparitively undetailed, delts. This was exemplified in 2006 where Coleman looked narrower but just had too much shape for Cutler. We shall see come Olympia time!
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Your right , cutlers shoulders are amaaazing , so were ronnies.But not anymore
Cutlers shoulders arent touchable by ronnie now
and that third pic above is not a negative shot of Big Ron , but rather a comparison of how GOOD he was and how great his shoulders were
The shoulders complete the back shots , just compare the 2 back shots above , the middle 1 is weeeeak without big shoulders
alot is in the shoulders baby
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there is no way he will win this year....i could see him taking 3rd or 4th....it's too bad he didn't just
hang it up when it was over....pride got to him
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im sure he could come in big. his shoulders are not the problem. his tricep lat and quad injuries are. looks like a trainwreck.
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I still dont know what it is about cutler , but the illusion he creats puts all away
Like you say his he`s not as detailed or vascular as many pros.....but that damn illusion makes him look wicked.Shawn ray caught this a while back , cutlers illusion
Btw i think alot of cutlers illusion is created by I THINK that exercise he does - WIDE ARC DUMBELL PRESSES, maybe im wrong
if you notice cutlers chest and delts look like 1 huge connected slab of meat , while other pros have a distinct seperation between shoulders and chest
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Looking at those old pics of Ronnie i have to admit he was a worthy sucessor of Dorian. Damn, his back double bi used to be AWESOME! I hope he gets ill before the upcoming Olympia and has to pull out - i really don't want to see him come a probable third behind Cutler and Martinez.
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Traditionally that is a bad thing though, with bodybuilders since the iron-age training to develop SEPARATION between the chest and shoulders. It does make Cutler look big that he lacks that, but just BIG really, not defined in any way.
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I asked my boy steve to take a peek. He says everything is fine on the gluteal front.
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r133/QuakerChewy5302/bang5.gif)
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Ronnie has loss his last 4 contest - Jay before last years win - lost some 4 years - questionable wins against chris Cormier and Dexter jackson at the arnold.
Silvio
dennis Wolf
Victor M.
and The Xman
have Been winners and have shown the Future of the sport and the shape and symmerty and size - Both Jay and Ronnie have lost their SHAPE. sorry look for a new winner this year.
Thank you Jay and Ronnie - it was a good run
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Ronnie has loss his last 4 contest - Jay before last years win - lost some 4 years - questionable wins against chris Cormier and Dexter jackson at the arnold.
Silvio
dennis Wolf
Victor M.
and The Xman
have Been winners and have shown the Future of the sport and the shape and symmerty and size - Both Jay and Ronnie have lost their SHAPE. sorry look for a new winner this year.
Thank you Jay and Ronnie - it was a good run
They've been saying that for years because of Dexter and Melvin etc, but they both look small next to the big guys at the O.
I don't think Silvio is gonna win the Olympia this year some how. ::)
Wolf might one day but not for a few years.
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2 points
1) His Shoulders
2) His back (every1 knows this)
2 key points where his physique is different from the past.Everyone is focused on the back and realise that his back is weeak now , but you ask me his shoulders arent wide enough as they were ¬ enuf to displace cutler right now.Thats a key diff
check it out....
Monster comparison of a most muscular pose with a back double bis.... ::)
What's next?
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I can't wait till you nincom-fuckin'-poots eat your words!! >:(
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I can't wait till you nincom-fuckin'-poots eat your words!! >:(
Ronnie will be 2007 Mr.O
i just think that he will do what he done in 2003 and come out after losing to gunter and shock... (the man is mad as hell, he will do anythin to win his title back) if he shows up better than 2006.... its in the bag for da big ron.
Ronnie just has that mature muscle that many of the pros won't get anytime soon including jay!
Ronnie will be victorious!
just my opinion... don't hate!
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Monster comparison of a most muscular pose with a back double bis.... ::)
What's next?
Dimwit...those shots illustrate the two points ive been making...his lack of shoulder width/size and weak back....dohhh :o
I can't wait till you nincom-fuckin'-poots eat your words!! >:(
I like ronnie would Loooove to see the big man win it again , rooting for him as a matter of fact.Just think its unlikely with the stuff ive mentioned above for him to beat an improving jay - gonna be tough
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The pic below of jay illustrates my point of his shoulder and chest tie in creating an illusion OF 1 BIG SLAB OF MUSCLE
The ronnie pic - aaa h the good ol days , 1 of the best BB pics ever IMHO
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i love big ron, but he's past his prime, i am proud of him for still competing and not just running away, i would love to see him in 2nd or 3rd place...
but you never know... ;D
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His back looks fine to me in that third pic.
Yeah. The 2003 Coleman, much like the 2001 Arnold version, is long gone and is never coming back.
His body is just so beat up. I'm not saying he CAN'T win, I just don't think it's very likely.
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Yeah. The 2003 Coleman, much like the 2001 Arnold version, is long gone and is never coming back.
His body is just so beat up. I'm not saying he CAN'T win, I just don't think it's very likely.
Exxxxxactly !
Btw Transformers was wild :D
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his delts back don't look bad at all.
he's not in peak condition yet obviously so give the guy a break. imo, his delts and back will look spot on come olympia time. i just hope he gets that mid-section tight above all else. the guy can afford to come in a little smaller, he's got plenty of size and detail over jay so the mid-section is everything for ronnie. he gets that tight the delts and back will look that much bigger. ;)
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he's goin to lose cos he looks like a fat bloated gorilla
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he's goin to lose cos he looks like a fat bloated gorilla
Exactly, he is finished.
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That goes to all of you here who think they have a clue ::)
Epic on the bandwagon jump ::)
Most of you in this thread change their opinion like the fuggin wind.
< whiny cry bitch>
he's goin to lose cos he looks like a fat bloated gorilla
Exactly, he is finished.
i love big ron, but he's past his prime, i am proud of him for still competing and not just running away, i would love to see him in 2nd or 3rd place...
im sure he could come in big. his shoulders are not the problem. his tricep lat and quad injuries are. looks like a trainwreck.
<whiny cry bitch>
::) ::)
And guess what... if he wins... most of you would jump right back on the Ronnie waggon and couldn't stop strokinhg his dick
All of grow some fucking balls
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I'm actually looking forward to the O this year, apart from Jay i guess, there is no clear cut favorite. I think Jay has done great with what god gave him to work with, but do i think he can be Mr O for say 5 years running, hell no. I'd love to see it go to a more symmetrical guy 8).
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Yeah i'd say the days of bb'ers winning the O for multiple years (5 yrs+) are over. Jay might get 2 or 3 years as the champ, but i think there are too many guys who will be a threat to him. And supposedly the old school look is meant to come back, so it might be a closer comparison and the smaller guys might have more of a chance, rather than outright mass (except for Ruhl, 295 lbs this year, next year 300lbs+, GO RUHL!!!)
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And guess what... if he wins... most of you would jump right back on the Ronnie waggon and couldn't stop strokinhg his dick
i believe he looks appaulling this year leading up to the O, if he looks great on the day of contest and wins (having deserved the win) i will say that i was proven wrong. i just think his pics look disgusting.
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The pic below of jay illustrates my point of his shoulder and chest tie in creating an illusion OF 1 BIG SLAB OF MUSCLE
The ronnie pic - aaa h the good ol days , 1 of the best BB pics ever IMHO
I'm off topic, but do you think this book "the precontest bible" is a good read?
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Monster comparison of a most muscular pose with a back double bis.... ::)
What's next?
Not to mention the 2nd pic looks like he hasn't fully flexed yet.
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he's already won it so many times he should just enter for the dough now