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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: bigjohn_bluesfan on August 08, 2007, 12:48:30 PM
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rec drugs arent typically cool but Ive forund weed really moderates the side effects of my cycle. i strongly reccomend it...
roids typically make me a little irritable and green takes care of that, and also increases the appetite..
the weed be lettin you know
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Is this thread serious or a joke? You never can tell with BJBF.
Anyway, weed raises estrogen levels...this is fact and this is not something anyone who is serous about their physique should want.
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Weed is an anti-anxiety drug and it should be legal for such use. it also has many other benefits in moderation.
The amount of estrogen it creates is almost untraceable. i know guys who smoke blunts all day for the last 10 years and they don't have any estrogen related problems.
my only issue is it makes me lazy and decreases motivation.
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Is this thread serious or a joke? You never can tell with BJBF.
I was wondering the same thing.
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Weed is an anti-anxiety drug and it should be legal for such use. it also has many other benefits in moderation.
The amount of estrogen it creates is almost untraceable. i know guys who smoke blunts all day for the last 10 years and they don't have any estrogen related problems.
my only issue is it makes me lazy and decreases motivation.
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believe it or not, there is a certain number of top pros who smoke weed regularly.... and i smoke it and I be damned if I have grew tits or had a period... I quit until i was 25, and Im 30 now. I recently took up smoking weed for anxiety purposes. I had been under alot of stress so i went to my doctor aqnd she prescribed me zanax. i threw the prscription in the garbage and bought a bag of weed from my neighbor and Ive been fine ever since ;) it helps the anxiety caused by stroids tremendously
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believe it or not, there is a certain number of top pros who smoke weed regularly.... and i smoke it and I be damned if I have grew tits or had a period... I quit until i was 25, and Im 30 now. I recently took up smoking weed for anxiety purposes. I had been under alot of stress so i went to my doctor aqnd she prescribed me zanax. i threw the prscription in the garbage and bought a bag of weed from my neighbor and Ive been fine ever since ;) it helps the anxiety caused by stroids tremendously
You could've given the Xanax to me...I need that shit to get on a plain. ;D
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yeah, that shit got me on a "plain" when I was in Mexico...and I 'bout slid off the plain and underwater in the hot tub. I took a couple zannys and a soma and i couldnt move, then I started thinking--- holy shit, what if I slide under water, then I somehow got up the strength to get out---- reaqlly moronic: I could have drowned easily
as for the zanny rim that shit is highly addictive..I do know who reps it online though--you know him too
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as for the zanny rim that shit is highly addictive..I do know who reps it online though--you know him too
I know. I have to get a small prescription for Xanax or Valium before I fly because flying freaks me the fuck out.
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Is this thread serious or a joke? You never can tell with BJBF.
Anyway, weed raises estrogen levels...this is fact and this is not something anyone who is serous about their physique should want.
I respect your feedback, but thats hogwash ;D
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my only issue is it makes me lazy and decreases motivation.
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I know what you mean there.
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believe it or not, there is a certain number of top pros who smoke weed regularly.... and i smoke it and I be damned if I have grew tits or had a period... I quit until i was 25, and Im 30 now. I recently took up smoking weed for anxiety purposes. I had been under alot of stress so i went to my doctor aqnd she prescribed me zanax. i threw the prscription in the garbage and bought a bag of weed from my neighbor and Ive been fine ever since ;) it helps the anxiety caused by stroids tremendously
I agree.
i've had a script for valium for over 6 years due to high anxiety, it runs in my family. i've had the same bottle for years. i'd much rather take a puff off a J than take some addictive medication.
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no amount of smoke in the lungs is good for anything.
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no amount of smoke in the lungs is good for anything.
Neither is injecting a foreign substance into your body.
At least that's what they say... ;)
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Weed was rampant in my HS in the 70's. ANd contrary to the BS they tell us IT WAS VERY HIGH QUALITY!
jUST LIKE NOW, HAD TO FIND IT AND PAY UP.
Ive seen steady smokers for decades with normal lives, Businesses, Healthy normal faimilies. Doctors, lawyers...
Big Pharma and the Govt hates this plant because it will cut into high profits of many Pharma drugs.
Yes it makes many laid back and unmotivated. thats all I can say bad about weed.(and the fact the Govt ran the price up from $35oz to $35 1/8th.
Lets all HIt A'dam then the N Thailand/ Cambodia Mtns. Go on saffari in a Toyota HiLux 4x4 4door.
Blow your mind.
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rec drugs arent typically cool but Ive forund weed really moderates the side effects of my cycle. i strongly reccomend it...
roids typically make me a little irritable and green takes care of that, and also increases the appetite..
the weed be lettin you know
LOL!!
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no amount of smoke in the lungs is good for anything.
so: steroids fine, weed, bad. ::)
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I know. I have to get a small prescription for Xanax or Valium before I fly because flying freaks me the fuck out.
yep. statistically you are more likely to die on the way to the airport, but if anything on the plane fucks up, you are dead. i get pretty nervous before flights as well
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yep. statistically you are more likely to die on the way to the airport, but if anything on the plane fucks up, you are dead. i get pretty nervous before flights as well
exactly, your chances of dying in a plane crash sky rocket when you actually get on a plane
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I respect your feedback, but thats hogwash ;D
How is that hogwash? Weed raises estrogen levels, this is fact. I didn't say it would make you grow breast or you would infact turn into a woman if you smoked it, but your estrogen levels will be higher if you do. how much? Depends on how much you smoke and how often. I'm not telling you not to smoke it, do what you want...I'm simply stating what it does in terms of negative effects for a BB.
it's kind of like a lot of things we talk about on here...for example, alcohol. A lot of us like to enjoy a drink or 2 now and then...some of us would like to enjoy several on a regular basis. But it's an accepted and understood fact that alcohol, although it does provide many healthy benefits to the human body, it does cause some negative effects as well...particularly for those who are a little more adamant about building a champion physique.
in short, everything we put in our bodies has some sort of effect on our bodies, be it small or large, there is an effect. it's nice to know what these effects are so that we can make good decisions and get the best out of what we are trying to do. Personally speaking, and this is simply how I view things in my own little world...I'm not going to do anything or put anything in my body that might possibly hinder my progress and goals, even if it is a very minuscule amount...because every step forward I take is excruciating and took too much work and sacrifice to let something that is so easily avoidable to get in my way.
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How is that hogwash? Weed raises estrogen levels, this is fact. I didn't say it would make you grow breast or you would infact turn into a woman if you smoked it, but your estrogen levels will be higher if you do. how much? Depends on how much you smoke and how often. I'm not telling you not to smoke it, do what you want...I'm simply stating what it does in terms of negative effects for a BB.
it's kind of like a lot of things we talk about on here...for example, alcohol. A lot of us like to enjoy a drink or 2 now and then...some of us would like to enjoy several on a regular basis. But it's an accepted and understood fact that alcohol, although it does provide many healthy benefits to the human body, it does cause some negative effects as well...particularly for those who are a little more adamant about building a champion physique.
in short, everything we put in our bodies has some sort of effect on our bodies, be it small or large, there is an effect. it's nice to know what these effects are so that we can make good decisions and get the best out of what we are trying to do. Personally speaking, and this is simply how I view things in my own little world...I'm not going to do anything or put anything in my body that might possibly hinder my progress and goals, even if it is a very minuscule amount...because every step forward I take is excruciating and took too much work and sacrifice to let something that is so easily avoidable to get in my way.
thats ver well said.... I am simply weighing out the benefits vs. drawbacks ---- i have alot of stress and anxiety that could possibly hinder my progress. I make better progress without the stress
i agree with everything you said, but the weed still be lettin' you know .... ;D
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for myself, weed is definitely not "anit-anxiety" quite the opposite actually. at least in regards to my self of esteem and amount of insecurities.
and for motivational reason, its also the opposite...i used to smoke weed every day, before and after i worked out...all the time. when i was in the gym high i would work out so fucking hard, and i would be isolating everything perfectlyu, and i would get a crazy good "rythem" with my lifting motions. i really think i put on at least 10 extra pounds of muscle because of my increases wee motication.
but none of that is worth my state of mind. i prefer to walk around with confidence.
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THe effctc vary widly person to person. I know 1 guy who should be COURT ORDERED TO SMOKE WEED.
HE's that agressive and violent off it. Weed chills him.
I know sheetrockers and other tradesmen whos smoke everyday at work, they bust ass in dangerous work conditons. Never a problem. The GOvt needs get ist nose out of weed AND concentrate on smack, speed,
and other hard drugs.
The amt of test we take, and Ai's negates any estrogen increase.
Weed can take you to superhuman concentration levels in well learned tasks.
Who's going to Amsterdam w/ me? ;D
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How is that hogwash? Weed raises estrogen levels, this is fact. I didn't say it would make you grow breast or you would infact turn into a woman if you smoked it, but your estrogen levels will be higher if you do. how much? Depends on how much you smoke and how often. I'm not telling you not to smoke it, do what you want...I'm simply stating what it does in terms of negative effects for a BB.
it's kind of like a lot of things we talk about on here...for example, alcohol. A lot of us like to enjoy a drink or 2 now and then...some of us would like to enjoy several on a regular basis. But it's an accepted and understood fact that alcohol, although it does provide many healthy benefits to the human body, it does cause some negative effects as well...particularly for those who are a little more adamant about building a champion physique.
in short, everything we put in our bodies has some sort of effect on our bodies, be it small or large, there is an effect. it's nice to know what these effects are so that we can make good decisions and get the best out of what we are trying to do. Personally speaking, and this is simply how I view things in my own little world...I'm not going to do anything or put anything in my body that might possibly hinder my progress and goals, even if it is a very minuscule amount...because every step forward I take is excruciating and took too much work and sacrifice to let something that is so easily avoidable to get in my way.
Sorry but it is hogwash, pot does not lower test or increase E. Here in this thread check out the refs I have posted a link to. the most recent study in 1991 disproves the old 1974 study that many people still think is true.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=152823.0
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THe effctc vary widly person to person. I know 1 guy who should be COURT ORDERED TO SMOKE WEED.
HE's that agressive and violent off it. Weed chills him.
I know sheetrockers and other tradesmen whos smoke everyday at work, they bust ass in dangerous work conditons. Never a problem. The GOvt needs get ist nose out of weed AND concentrate on smack, speed,
and other hard drugs.
The amt of test we take, and Ai's negates any estrogen increase.
Weed can take you to superhuman concentration levels in well learned tasks.
Who's going to Amsterdam w/ me? ;D
I'll go with ya!
i agree with your post. weed helps me concentrate on certain levels, but not at work, too much math and management decisions to be high at work. I've never had a good workout while high, just takes me out of my aggressive zone, i'm really calm when high. i train like an animal, not like Einstein.
i don't take anti estrogen's anyway so i could care less about if pot increases estrogen. I've never seen a study that proved that it does.
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I'll go with ya!
i agree with your post. weed helps me concentrate on certain levels, but not at work, too much math and management decisions to be high at work. I've never had a good workout while high, just takes me out of my aggressive zone, i'm really calm when high. i train like an animal, not like Einstein.
i don't take anti estrogen's anyway so i could care less about if pot increases estrogen. I've never seen a study that proved that it does.
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I'VE SEEN SUPER HUMAN ARCHERY DISPLAYS. SPLITING ARROW AFTER ARROW (No sights, instinctive shooting, hunting bows) ON LEBONESE HASH. (BEFORE THAT NASTLY LITTLE Beirut MARINE compound BOMBING BROUGHT A END TO THAT WONDERFULL STUFF.
HIGHLEVEL MATH IS OUT FOR MOST (BUT NOT ALL, I KNOW A ENGENEER AND COMPUTER PROGRAMER/ ANALIST.
MANY SHEETROCKERS, ROOFERS, PAINTERS ALL START THEIR DAY W/ POT. NOT ME.
LETS HOPE THE NEXT ESTABLISHMENT GETS THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR ASS. I DO TALK PERSONALY W/ MY CONGRESSMEN OFTEN ON VETERANS RIGHTS. I have respect. THEY ARE GOING TO GET A EAR FULL ON AAS AND WEED (ESP MEDICAL)
AFTER THE NEXT ELECTIONS. I ENCOURAGE ALL TO DO SAME. THEY do WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. BE RESPECTFULL AND INTELLIGENT. I'D LOVE TO SEE 20 220-320LB ATHLETES GO IN AND TALK ABOUT DIRTY UG JUICE etc.
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weed and lifting ? pffffffffff i cant even train 24 hrs after with regular intensity.
it just does not mix
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weed and lifting ? pffffffffff i cant even train 24 hrs after with regular intensity.
it just does not mix
YOu aint everyone Kid.
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THe effctc vary widly person to person. I know 1 guy who should be COURT ORDERED TO SMOKE WEED.
HE's that agressive and violent off it. Weed chills him.
I know sheetrockers and other tradesmen whos smoke everyday at work, they bust ass in dangerous work conditons. Never a problem. The GOvt needs get ist nose out of weed AND concentrate on smack, speed,
and other hard drugs.
The amt of test we take, and Ai's negates any estrogen increase.
Weed can take you to superhuman concentration levels in well learned tasks.
Who's going to Amsterdam w/ me? ;D
my wife and i want to go to amsterdam ... weed is from God -- weed is glorious
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my wife and i want to go to amsterdam ... weed is from God -- weed is glorious
yoU WILL love A-DAM ;D Its not that far. Small ocean. The jet lag is nothing.
yoU CAN HOP THE TRAIN, AND TRAVEL IN COMFORT ALL OVER EUROPE. Athens Greece (Take car Ferry) is awesome too.
I like the cheaper countries, money dont last long in France or Switzerland, BUT, if ya's a good skier may want to do Chaminoix area in winter.
Ask FreeSpirit on GB, hes just outSIDE of A-DaM.
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YOu aint everyone Kid.
LOL! Thats true because I have gotten high before training before and it made me wanna hit it hard, especialy if Im having coffee with it. The people watching is much better too :D
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LOL! Thats true because I have gotten high before training before and it made me wanna hit it hard, especialy if Im having coffee with it. The people watching is much better too :D
No Crap? Well They can argue w/ results, huh?
I know a crew of sheetrock Hangers, brutal work. They smoke several times a day. That is not normal. They are lanky and strong w/ a lot of endurance.
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No Crap? Well They can argue w/ results, huh?
I know a crew of sheetrock Hangers, brutal work. They smoke several times a day. That is not normal. They are lanky and strong w/ a lot of endurance.
Yeah I did my share of partying at work when I was a carpenter. One guy I remember told his boss after he got caught getting high in the portajohn that, "He had to get high during the day, cause the job was so boring."
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when I used to frome houses, these leather skinned, sandy haired framers would just smoke pot all day.... the would be up on a 10/12 pitch 3 stary roof with a skill saw in one hand and a joint in the other...it was unbelievable
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when I used to frome houses, these leather skinned, sandy haired framers would just smoke pot all day.... the would be up on a 10/12 pitch 3 stary roof with a skill saw in one hand and a joint in the other...it was unbelievable
If they were somehow able to fire every worker in the const Trades that dopes - The country would come to a standstill. Oh wait, Bush did that on his own.
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Sorry but it is hogwash, pot does not lower test or increase E. Here in this thread check out the refs I have posted a link to. the most recent study in 1991 disproves the old 1974 study that many people still think is true.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=152823.0
Interesting link...I had not read that before. I'll say this, it did provide some new food for thought for myself in regards to the topic. Change my mind? No, but it did give me reason to possibly delve into the topic a little more. Either way guys don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to preach or tell any of you not to smoke pot...telling a bunch of guys not to smoke pot because it's stupid or wrong on a forum where we all advocate illegal drug use would be extremely hypocritical IMO. At the same time, it's not something I'd advocate until I was certain of the effects...and that goes for any of the host of topics we talk about on here. And just like any topic, minds can be changed when absolute solid evidence is presented. Thanks for the link L2H.
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yes weed will make you eat alot,but it will also make you lazy,so were is the time for the gym,cause youll be asleep.
go get hight and lift heavy,it would be a cool pic to see the weights fall on your face.
just my thoughts
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Interesting link...I had not read that before. I'll say this, it did provide some new food for thought for myself in regards to the topic. Change my mind? No, but it did give me reason to possibly delve into the topic a little more. Either way guys don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to preach or tell any of you not to smoke pot...telling a bunch of guys not to smoke pot because it's stupid or wrong on a forum where we all advocate illegal drug use would be extremely hypocritical IMO. At the same time, it's not something I'd advocate until I was certain of the effects...and that goes for any of the host of topics we talk about on here. And just like any topic, minds can be changed when absolute solid evidence is presented. Thanks for the link L2H.
It really affectS some ppl differently, Its unreal Luv can workout onit, but its unreal to hang sheetrock all day on it to.
No way I can. EVERYONE smoked grass in the late 70s in MY school. the cops did nothing. I see no problems from it in the ppl I know DECADES LATER, it should be decriminalized to point of defacto legalization IMO.
MARCUS SMOKES CIGS ::)
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Interesting link...I had not read that before. I'll say this, it did provide some new food for thought for myself in regards to the topic. Change my mind? No, but it did give me reason to possibly delve into the topic a little more. Either way guys don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to preach or tell any of you not to smoke pot...telling a bunch of guys not to smoke pot because it's stupid or wrong on a forum where we all advocate illegal drug use would be extremely hypocritical IMO. At the same time, it's not something I'd advocate until I was certain of the effects...and that goes for any of the host of topics we talk about on here. And just like any topic, minds can be changed when absolute solid evidence is presented. Thanks for the link L2H.
Your welcome bro. Overall pot is bad news IMO any kind of smoking cannot be good for your lungs and O2 uptake. The drug is pretty complicated and affects more than people think. Smoking of any sort also will raise BP and cholesterol. I very seldom smoke it before i train, but have. There are times when it does make me lazy and have noticed after stopping for months when starting it again it really makes me feel groggy in the AM, kind of like a mild hangover. And the munchies are so for real, they will make you eat and eat and eat, some of the things i made while having the muchies is funny. There is just this uncontrollable urge to eat about anything and then eat some more :D
I agree with what you said and that is overall dope is not productive to BB goals. I started smoking it first around when trab did late 70's and early 80's it was unreal how popular the stuff was then. There were head shops in everytown at that time.
I will say this about pot, if you can control it and that means no more than a couple times a week at appropiate times it should not be a problem. but most people when they have it smoke it more than that. The stuff has caused me plenty of problems in my life with family, sposes, and the law so I would say to anyone its probally best to stay away from the stuff.
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I will say this about pot, if you can control it and that means no more than a couple times a week at appropiate times it should not be a problem. but most people when they have it smoke it more than that. The stuff has caused me plenty of problems in my life with family, sposes, and the law so I would say to anyone its probally best to stay away from the stuff.
That's the key right there but as we know most can't. I know tons of guys who I used to party with 10 years ago who used to smoke a ton of grass & now guess what? They still smoke a ton of grass. Most aren't succeddful & most dropped out of school.
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That's the key right there but as we know most can't. I know tons of guys who I used to party with 10 years ago who used to smoke a ton of grass & now guess what? They still smoke a ton of grass. Most aren't succeddful & most dropped out of school.
I know some like that Rim, I know many that are very average, and I know some who the cops would never dream of busting; That is if they wanted to keep their jobs.
I cant be productive on the stuff or relate to ppl on it. I veg out. So I quit using it many yrs ago.
But still, I feel its senselessly persecuted.
In 1979 I dont think you could find a student in my HS who didnt smoke pot. They tollerated smoking it on school grounds. They'd (Admin) just kind of come up and talk to us to get us to stop.
NOBODY was EVER arrested, or even searched for it in my school.
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I think you are all overlooking the very interesting FACT that marijuana is a potent vasodilator.
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I think you are all overlooking the very interesting FACT that marijuana is a potent vasodilator.
So, Skunk Pre contest?
AJ is gonna scream ;D.
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I swear trab Ive got some damn skunk weed.. with purple hairs on it --- by buddy grew it
and for the record, I swear smoking weed is why im so vascular
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and for the record, I swear smoking weed is why im so vascular
I call bullshit on that one John...over course maybe I'm thinking of the binges from weed (i.e. beer & high salt foods).
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I know some like that Rim, I know many that are very average, and I know some who the cops would never dream of busting; That is if they wanted to keep their jobs.
I cant be productive on the stuff or relate to ppl on it. I veg out. So I quit using it many yrs ago.
But still, I feel its senselessly persecuted.
In 1979 I dont think you could find a student in my HS who didnt smoke pot. They tollerated smoking it on school grounds. They'd (Admin) just kind of come up and talk to us to get us to stop.
NOBODY was EVER arrested, or even searched for it in my school.
Amen to that. Same things happen to me.
BTW - I've gotten high with my dad. The man could roll a hell of a joint one handed. Very impressive.
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Though its different with everyone, all of you have valid points, however, if you are going to use a mind altering substance, weed is the best all around choice period.
Lets not forget its appetite stimulating qualities, and its amazing ability to reduce stress, which we all know tears down muscle and inhibits gains...
weed benefits:
stress reduction (a biggie for bodybuilders)
appetite stimulant
vascularity enhancement (studies prove this, fellas)
aids in good rest/sleep
provides an outlet that is not high in calories and carbs (beer)
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Though its different with everyone, all of you have valid points, however, if you are going to use a mind altering substance, weed is the best all around choice period.
Lets not forget its appetite stimulating qualities, and its amazing ability to reduce stress, which we all know tears down muscle and inhibits gains...
weed benefits:
stress reduction (a biggie for bodybuilders)
appetite stimulant
vascularity enhancement (studies prove this, fellas)
aids in good rest/sleep
provides an outlet that is not high in calories and carbs (beer)
IMO is the most harmless common "Drug" out there. No withdrawls, I say todays habituation/ addiction popular theory's are total Bull Shit IME. And I seen the best Grass/ Hash the Planet has to offer ;D.
You and Wifey ought to hit Amsterdam Johnny B. Its a awesome city, you'd love it. Easy to get around walking. Short flight, not real spendy....
Ask Freespirit here On GB where to stay etc.
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Though its different with everyone, all of you have valid points, however, if you are going to use a mind altering substance, weed is the best all around choice period.
Lets not forget its appetite stimulating qualities, and its amazing ability to reduce stress, which we all know tears down muscle and inhibits gains...
weed benefits:
stress reduction (a biggie for bodybuilders)
appetite stimulant
vascularity enhancement (studies prove this, fellas)
aids in good rest/sleep
provides an outlet that is not high in calories and carbs (beer)
I'd like to see a study supporting this.
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I'd like to see a study supporting this.
I think they are refer-ing to increased heart rate. That = more visable veins for some.
One of the Best waterskiers I know Skis high as the moon allways.
Snowboarders? ::) ;D
I wish they'd just stop this drug insanity in the USA
We have FDA/ DEA even practicing medicine. Drs are afraid to write what they want out of fear of them.
That is not how Medicine should be practiced.
I think Pot Prolly has many legit medical values. Easy for Those of us without a condition that benefits from it
To dismiss it as Rubbish...
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Smoking weed is a must while in program keeps you on the level.
For myself i always smoke a joint and pop some efdra B-4 Workout and i kick ass
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rec drugs arent typically cool but Ive forund weed really moderates the side effects of my cycle. i strongly reccomend it...
roids typically make me a little irritable and green takes care of that, and also increases the appetite..
the weed be lettin you know
I was stoned the other day and broke my gf's mom's nose...wasn't rage, though it was intended. Bitch shoulda put her seatbelt on..
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rec drugs arent typically cool but Ive forund weed really moderates the side effects of my cycle. i strongly reccomend it...
roids typically make me a little irritable and green takes care of that, and also increases the appetite..
the weed be lettin you know
I use it daily with no sides. helps me eat like a horse plus lowers my blood pressure wich is a good thing for me.
alot of people would be surprised by the amount of pros and amateurs who smoke this stuff. as far as estrogen goes well you can get increased estrogen just by eating the wrong foods.. seen it happen many times. I think the wrong foods are more of a risk than a few bong hits. I strongly dissagree with smoking any before a workout thats just pointless..
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You guys make me laugh!
All I can say is. . . . . To Each Is Own.
Its not for me, I left those days 15 years ago.
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weed can also cause gyno... stay away...
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Smoking weed is a must while in program keeps you on the level.
For myself i always smoke a joint and pop some efdra B-4 Workout and i kick ass
that's what I'm talking about - insane mind to muscle connection with that combo - anybody who hasn't tried it wont' understand....
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that's what I'm talking about - insane mind to muscle connection with that combo - anybody who hasn't tried it wont' understand....
I smoke before every workout religously ----- I get in an unbelievable zone and creat a freakshow in the gym... I even got some of my buddies to doing it and it decreases their irriatbility and they have achieved greater results in the gym
the weed be lettin you know
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If your smoking weed and going to the gym u have some coke in it, weed is a downer it shouldnt be giving you superhuman workouts, i smoke somtimes as well but never before gym, i can imagine how much ur endurance is hindered smoking pre workout thats just pointless..