I've written about him before.
But check out MARVIN EDER. 50s superman, and natural to boot.
(http://bodybuilding.home.insightbb.com/trainingarticles/images/eder2.jpg)
In a word: BADASS
And some of his lifts have yet to be matched.
I didn't know g4p had been around that long.
I didn't know g4p had been around that long.
I highly doubt he is natural. Steroids were around in the 50's, and people WERE using them...
No.
Eder was like 21 in that pic, from 1953, and strong as fuck even as a 15-16 year old where the magazines started writing articles about him and his strength. And, it's not "the 50's", it's early 50's, and there is simply no way he could've gotten hold of them.
This guy was hitting a 400 lb bench raw at age 18 or thereabouts. That would've been in 1950.
He did dips with 220 lbs added as a 16 year old.
That would've been 1948.
It's mildly amusing that people WANT to believe he took steroids, but among the anti-drug ironhistorians and old timers who think about the past and old days with joy you will see many of them refer to Marvin Eder - absolutely no possibility of steroids - as a natural superfreak whose lifts have yet to be matched. He is by many thought to be the prime example of what has been achieved without drugs.
But of course I am all ears if you have info the entire iron history community does not.. please explain to me how the poor kid Marvin Eder, plumber apprentice from the bronx, too poor to buy his own set of weights and thus started doing chins and dips on the playground - religiously - could get hold of steroids in 1948 up to 1953, at which year they were INTRODUCED ;)
quite a fag huh?anyway, the guy carrys impressive mass for 50s though :o
Just wondering what kind of altar, posters & kneepads you maintain at home for your Eder worship? :-*isn't that already a nude?
That pic you posted is extremely gay, as is your defensiveness & reverence for your hero. You really can't say whether he was on roids or not and shouldn't speculate even if it interupts your fantasy. :-*
When will you be posting the Eder nudes?
isn't that already a nude?Sure but i'm betting he's keeping the good stuff from us. :-X
Yes I can say he wasn't on roids, since there is practically no way he could have been. The dates and circumstances don't allow it.
And yes he looks better than practically everyone here and is stronger than anyone here.
Artificial test was available beginning in the 1930s but he couldn't have been on? LOL a true groupie projecting interpretations as reality. :-*
Actually I believe that is NOT a nude, he is wearing some skimpy thong like whatever.i dont see a string either could it have been airbrushed and if so then the entire image could be fraudulent
I don't care about the gay comments or being a fan.
why should I?
Yes I can say he wasn't on roids, since there is practically no way he could have been. The dates and circumstances don't allow it.
And yes he looks better than practically everyone here and is stronger than anyone here.
So just because they existed you think they were available and bodybuilders used them? Or even knew of what existed only in a few science labs at the time? Talk about "projecting interpretations as reality" Thats all you ever do. The "facts according to Pumpster"
No.
Eder was like 21 in that pic, from 1953, and strong as fuck even as a 15-16 year old where the magazines started writing articles about him and his strength. And, it's not "the 50's", it's early 50's, and there is simply no way he could've gotten hold of them.
This guy was hitting a 400 lb bench raw at age 18 or thereabouts. That would've been in 1950.
He did dips with 220 lbs added as a 16 year old.
That would've been 1948.
It's mildly amusing that people WANT to believe he took steroids, but among the anti-drug ironhistorians and old timers who think about the past and old days with joy you will see many of them refer to Marvin Eder - absolutely no possibility of steroids - as a natural superfreak whose lifts have yet to be matched. He is by many thought to be the prime example of what has been achieved without drugs.
But of course I am all ears if you have info the entire iron history community does not.. please explain to me how the poor kid Marvin Eder, plumber apprentice from the bronx, too poor to buy his own set of weights and thus started doing chins and dips on the playground - religiously - could get hold of steroids in 1948 up to 1953, at which year they were INTRODUCED ;)
First of all try 1935. Get your facts straight before you start the proverbial dick sucking of Marvin Eder. Secondly, just what do you think test and dbol were going for back then? Give me a fucking break. I love the people who come on here who are so holier than thou thinking no one took gear back in the 40's and 50's. You're the same type of douche who probably thinks Bonds never used any gear either. It was purely a balm for arthritis..lolololol...o h lord...what a daisy chain you are... I bet you have this black and white taped to your bedroom door.....
Fan does not equal gay admirer.
How fucking stupid are you?
Your logic is completely flawed.
By your logic I think you wanna fuck me since you want to hear about gay fanatasies.
How's that for failed logic to stir up shit?
Welcome to the world of flawed logic!
I am waiting for the sources.
Come on.
Give me the proof. Give me some sources, anything telling me that steroids were available in New York in the 40s and 50s, available to a poor plumber apprentice who lifted weights .
Nevermind the fact that these sources don't exist, because it isn't possible.
Your reasoning is "well!!! Germans discovered it in the 30s, so there it MUST have been used for lifters in the 40s in new york" - wrong. No proof, no sufficient logical connection.
Pumpster> there is no way he could have been.
I'll have those sources to you as soon as you provide the ones proving AAS were not available via blackmarket and in the states in the 40's and 50's....lololol, christ what a meltdown...you must really be in love with Marvin...I apologize for intruding on this love affair of yours...by all means....carry on you limp wristed prick
First of all try 1935. Get your facts straight before you start the proverbial dick sucking of Marvin Eder. Secondly, just what do you think test and dbol were going for back then? Give me a fucking break. I love the people who come on here who are so holier than thou thinking no one took gear back in the 40's and 50's. You're the same type of douche who probably thinks Bonds never used any gear either. It was purely a balm for arthritis..lolololol...o h lord...what a daisy chain you are... I bet you have this black and white taped to your bedroom door.....
Calm down children...
The confusion here is that several of the old timers differentiate between "steroids" and "testosterone".
Testosterone therapy was around since the early forties; it was (almost) standard issue for Nazi SS officers as early as 1940 (poor manufacture meant lots of impurities causing all sorts of weird mental effects like paranoia and unbridled aggression, probably responsible for at least some fraction of Nazi atrocities)... and testosterone tablets (not sure about injectable) were the recommended treatment for the "disease" of homosexuality.
It wouldn't be unusual for a puny late-bloomer kid in the early fifties to be given a few injections to bulk him up... or for a weightlifter to visit his doctor with flu/exhaustion/pneumonia induced by over-training only to be told testosterone deficiency was the problem. "Here's a thousand of those tablets they give to racehorses kid, take one every day and try not to overdo the physical exertion. Come see me again in three years."
Remember this was that magical time in American history when promiscuous sixteen-year-old girls were cured with full hysterectomies... when lesbians were cured with prolonged electroshock therapy... when student communists received labotomies... when chronic masturbaters had harnesses fitted... and certain people had to sit at the back of the bus. Still, it wasn't all bad: women still knew their place.
Lots of young gay men in the 40s and 50s were spending their lives in the gym... in a repressive society scandalised by the bikini it was the one and only place where you could openly gawk at other athletic men sweating and grunting... if the tables were reversed and I lived in McCarthy Era America I know I'd suddenly develop an interest in any sport that allowed me into the girls showers.
Lots of these young men went (or were sent) to the family doctor for treatment of their supposedly unnatural fascination.... the doctors in their wisdom prescribed testosterone to treat the obvious underlying cause of the predilection: low testosterone levels.
Old time iron trainers like Steve Reeves were adamant that they never used steroids... maybe we should take them at their word, after all, their physiques are not entirely beyond the grasp of a committed longtime natural trainer... or maybe we should ask them specifically whether they were ever prescribed testosterone or glandular extracts (animal/human testicular and adrenal extracts)... quick, before they're all dead.
Reeves physique was impressive during his competitive career, but significantly and suspiciously larger during his Hercules years... the paucity of similar physiques in bomb-ravaged ration-book Europe during this time hints that perhaps something other than the California sun was having an effect.
The more you know...
The Luke
The irony of you telling someone to get their facts straight all the while you offer NO facts what so ever , you are like the other ignorant idiot pumpster
Scientists in Nazi Germany first isolated testosterone in the 1930s by distilling 15,000 liters of urine collected from German police officers. They later synthesized it in the lab. In early animal tests, injections of testosterone restored vitality in castrated roosters.
Now there is anecdotal evidence that toward the end of World War II the Nazi's were giving test to their troops but again thats hersay and lets entertain that they did that doesn't mean anything for American bodybuilding , the Story goes after Russia took over Germany they expanded on the German's research and started giving their athletes artificial test and they were cleaning up at the Olympics and World Games
Enter Dr John Ziegler who learned of this after getting the Russian weightlifting drunk at the World games in 1954 , upon his return to the USA will working for Ciba labs he made the worlds first oral steroid Dianbol I believe in 1956 and started giving to guys at the York gym soon after , one of the very first people to take D-bol was weighlifter Bill March in 1959 !! and the does he was on was just 15 Miligrams per day
And Ziegler first started testing on WEIGHTLIFERS exclusively at York because bodybuilding was viewed inferior to weightlifting the earliest I've heard of bodybuilders taking steroids is around 1960 the absolute earliest and in such low doses they wouldn't have had the profound effect you see today
So I always get a laugh at ignorant people who claim they have some inside information about drug use in the 40s and 50s and even in the 1930s lol Steroids didn't make their way into this country until the very late 50s and bodybuilders didn't start using them until the earliest 1960
There was a time when bodybuilding was a HEALTHY and NATURAL sport before drugs tainted it , this was Steve Reeves time , Bill Pearl's time , Marvin Eder's time , Reg Park etc
It reminds me of something Reeves once said about in his time there was NEVER a distinction between bodybuilding and drug-free ! this sport used to be pure thats why its known as the Golden age .
you are a stupid infantile ignorant son of an ugly bitch,,this is the only way to describe your knowledge and i use your insults as my culprit because this is the only way you understand broken english,,american english,,or any other english
steroids,,mainly testosterone use was availavble all through the 40s with major experiements that was done through the 30s,,you are a loonaateek and should be banned from this site but i suspect you have more than one id and many ips since i suspect for many illegal activities coming from your proxy
STEROIDS WERE USED ON JEWISH CONCENTRATION CAMP WORKERS IN 1940 1941 1942 ,,INCLUDIG ON ONE OF MY BEST FRIEND'S GRANDFATHER WITH TISSUE SCARS THAT ARE STILL THERE AND TATOOED CONCENTRATION CAMP WORKER NUMBERS THAT ARE STILL THERE ON THE LEFT ARM,,THIS ONE PARTICULAR OLD MAN NOW ALMOST 80 WAS THEN 15 AND LOOKED 25 WITH THE STRNGTH OF A 25 YEAR OLD AND THOSE STEROIDS MADE HIM WORK HARDER WITH LESS FOOD AND SURVIVE THE WHOLE DAMN WAR YOU STUPID IMBACILE
SOMEONE BANN THIS FOOL BEFORE I KNOCK HIM OUT WITH CONTROLLED DELIVERY AND MAKE THE WHOLE SHERIF DEPARTENT IN HIS TOWN COME TO KNOCK OUT HIS DOOR
BANN HIM!
you are a stupid infantile ignorant son of an ugly bitch,,this is the only way to describe your knowledge and i use your insults as my culprit because this is the only way you understand broken english,,american english,,or any other english
steroids,,mainly testosterone use was availavble all through the 40s with major experiements that was done through the 30s,,you are a loonaateek and should be banned from this site but i suspect you have more than one id and many ips since i suspect for many illegal activities coming from your proxy
STEROIDS WERE USED ON JEWISH CONCENTRATION CAMP WORKERS IN 1940 1941 1942 ,,INCLUDIG ON ONE OF MY BEST FRIEND'S GRANDFATHER WITH TISSUE SCARS THAT ARE STILL THERE AND TATOOED CONCENTRATION CAMP WORKER NUMBERS THAT ARE STILL THERE ON THE LEFT ARM,,THIS ONE PARTICULAR OLD MAN NOW ALMOST 80 WAS THEN 15 AND LOOKED 25 WITH THE STRNGTH OF A 25 YEAR OLD AND THOSE STEROIDS MADE HIM WORK HARDER WITH LESS FOOD AND SURVIVE THE WHOLE DAMN WAR YOU STUPID IMBACILE
SOMEONE BANN THIS FOOL BEFORE I KNOCK HIM OUT WITH CONTROLLED DELIVERY AND MAKE THE WHOLE SHERIF DEPARTENT IN HIS TOWN COME TO KNOCK OUT HIS DOOR
BANN HIM!
THE BIG MOUTH #### "DEITY" PUT IN HIS PLACE AGAIN BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MORE THAN HE EVER WILL. BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Oh yes his evidence is overwhelming ::) you and him are much alike ignorant and clueless and make up lies that you think no one will call you on ;) you two are simple people
NerD having his ass handed to him while trying to preach to someone with real experience vs ND's readings are always fun haahahahaahahaKid you're so desperate to get back at me for kicking your ass all over the truce thread that you'll suck anyone off who doesn't agree with me , still bitter about me outting you about the Bow Flex huh? lol
Preachy lil know-it-all from books only with no BB experience ND humiliated by gh15 = priceless
bwahahaahahahahaahahahah ahaha
The irony of you telling someone to get their facts straight all the while you offer NO facts what so ever , you are like the other ignorant idiot pumpsterAccording to Hitler's doctor, Dr Morell, he administered Schering Testoviron to Hitler. If you don't believe me, search for Dr Morell on google.
Scientists in Nazi Germany first isolated testosterone in the 1930s by distilling 15,000 liters of urine collected from German police officers. They later synthesized it in the lab. In early animal tests, injections of testosterone restored vitality in castrated roosters.
Now there is anecdotal evidence that toward the end of World War II the Nazi's were giving test to their troops but again thats hersay and lets entertain that they did that doesn't mean anything for American bodybuilding , the Story goes after Russia took over Germany they expanded on the German's research and started giving their athletes artificial test and they were cleaning up at the Olympics and World Games
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I didn't know g4p had been around that long.
Testosterone therapy was around since the early forties; it was (almost) standard issue for Nazi SS officers as early as 1940 (poor manufacture meant lots of impurities causing all sorts of weird mental effects like paranoia and unbridled aggression, probably responsible for at least some fraction of Nazi atrocities)...What kind of bullshit is this?? Testosterone responsible for Nazi atrocities? Hahaha what a joke.
The Luke
What kind of bullshit is this?? Testosterone responsible for Nazi atrocities? Hahaha what a joke.