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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: trab on August 11, 2007, 11:25:14 AM
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What ya-all think? I don't think anyone would go. Snowballs chance in Hell of it working.
Would I want a Liberal vegetarian next to me in a FireFight? Hell NO!
Halliburton, Conoco, Exon, Gen Dym, Alliant Tech etc should pony up. Its their cabbage patch.
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A draft is the surest way to end the middle east war machine.
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A draft is the surest way to end the middle east war machine.
But, whos the Victor?
One thing I will say, the clips I see on U-Tube etc highly impress me of the quality of our fighting men.
A draft would pollute that IMO.
But these poor guys been ridden hard and put away wet for way too long. They've given all that can be expected IMO.
Bush rode the Greatest Military Machine of all time right into the ground w/ foolish ill-thought thru reaction.
Superior force should achieve its goals mainly by imposing intimidation.
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military draft would screw up the military BIG time. that means all the friggin shitheads of society would be walking in to the recruiting offices and trying to sign up. it would be one of the stupidest moves in American History. Personally i don't think it will ever happen.
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military draft would screw up the military BIG time. that means all the friggin shitheads of society would be walking in to the recruiting offices and trying to sign up. it would be one of the stupidest moves in American History. Personally i don't think it will ever happen.
i hear ya, we'll leave the "fighting" to all the high school dropout knuckle dragging meathead losers like you.
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A draft would distribute Bush's casualties equally across American society.
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military draft would screw up the military BIG time. that means all the friggin shitheads of society would be walking in to the recruiting offices and trying to sign up. it would be one of the stupidest moves in American History. Personally i don't think it will ever happen.
Thanks, for your vote. But remember the idiots that are playing the board game in DC. ::)
I cant immagine todays shoping mall generation kids called up for the Millitary.
The days of lots of rural America farm boys and the like are long gone.
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A draft would distribute Bush's casualties equally across American society.
In theory it SHOULD, but in fact it wouldn't. Not so many rich boys end up grunts, except by choice.
Allways will be a out for the Power elites kids.
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It really depends on how they run the draft, there will be alot more scrutiny on this draft. I think it might not be so bad. As long as I can bounce those who need to go, and the punishments are harsher. Further, they need to have a different system for draftee's. 3 Year enlistments, different benefits when u get out, bonuses if u want to go regular army. I think alot of though needs to be put into this. All you bastards can come work for me. ;D
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the military has always been a bunch of brain dead drug addicted worthless morons who go "fight" so i can make money.
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A draft is the surest way to end the middle east war machine.
I believe they think they've found a way around it... If you're drafted, they're going to stick you in a non-combat position and if you enlisted yourself, you'll be more likely to see combat and I believe the other thing was that the initial years of conscription will be few numbers and then go up.
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If I get called I will leave the country in a heartbeat. This is Cheney's war and noone else should fight it except the rich motherfuckers and their descendants.
Personally, I think they will not do it because they sense that there would be major desertions and people will riot in the US.
The powers-that-be no longer control the population for their purposes. And they know that.
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The powers-that-be no longer control the population for their purposes. And they know that.
LOL... HAHA... Good one!!!
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I dont think the public will accept it. Mass protests. Pres would be ousted.
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any "soldier" participating in this sham of a "war" should face charges for war crimes when they come back to the US, plain and simple.
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any "soldier" participating in this sham of a "war" should face charges for war crimes when they come back to the US, plain and simple.
Do you HONESTLY feel like that?
If so, I'd be real carefull. We bringin' back a lot of guys who are.... a little on edge.
Plenty of them would put a blade across your throat for that statment.
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I dont think the public will accept it. Mass protests. Pres would be ousted.
No shit. I would automatically vote against any politician who voted in favor of a draft, regardless of party. Forcing people into the military against their will is immoral IMO. The all-volunteer professional military works just fine, especially in this day and age when it's about technology, not numbers. Why fucck with that?
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Do you HONESTLY feel like that?
If so, I'd be real carefull. We bringin' back a lot of guys who are.... a little on edge.
Plenty of them would put a blade across your throat for that statment.
i'm terrified. ::)
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i'm terrified. ::)
No your sick, and need help.
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No your sick, and need help.
i speak the truth if you consider that sick then so be it.
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Hey fat fuck...watch what u say, I won't stab u like the fat pig u are but I might poison your ho-ho's and twinkies. Go waste somebody elses oxygen. I've got plenty of guys up here who would love for u to say that shit in person. Go drown in lard fat guy and let the grown-ups debate this thread.
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I pray it doesn't happen.
I wouldn't resist it though.. Go and torture some Iraqis. j/k
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I'm all for a draft.
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I'm all for a draft.
Are you old enough to remember Viet Nam? Do you know a large sample of Nam Vets?
I dont think a draft is a good idea for a quality force. Esp these days.
I think the Military guys are way underpayed.
They should selectively offer incentive to high quality prospects is one idea.
I dont know, I think its time for a serious show of force. Erase Tehran from the map in a instant.
Dispense with occupation, just destroy.
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LOL... HAHA... Good one!!!
I should've said "in the business of war"... shouldn't I?
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Hey fat fuck...watch what u say, I won't stab u like the fat pig u are but I might poison your ho-ho's and twinkies. Go waste somebody elses oxygen. I've got plenty of guys up here who would love for u to say that shit in person. Go drown in lard fat guy and let the grown-ups debate this thread.
epic internet threats from a skinny weak "war" veteran who hasn't eaten a decent meal in months, hahahaa, a stiff wind would blow you over. ;D
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epic internet threats from a skinny weak "war" veteran who hasn't eaten a decent meal in months, hahahaa, a stiff wind would blow you over. ;D
Whats wrong with you? Are you satisfied with your life like this ? Are you schizophrenic? Meds can help.
Skinny? You are a Fat Pig. If you diet off that lard you will have 16" arms at best.
You feel so inferior that you must put others down to elevate yourself.
What a sorry ass waste of flesh.
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i hear ya, we'll leave the "fighting" to all the high school dropout knuckle dragging meathead losers like you.
Sounds like someone is still bitter about the military not letting open homosexuals enlist. ::)
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Sounds like someone is still bitter about the military not letting open homosexuals enlist. ::)
;D
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Whats wrong with you? Are you satisfied with your life like this ? Are you schizophrenic? Meds can help.
Skinny? You are a Fat Pig. If you diet off that lard you will have 16" arms at best.
You feel so inferior that you must put others down to elevate yourself.
What a sorry ass waste of flesh.
Threat...yeah I would say cutting offf you're supply of Ho Ho's as a threat...I ate pretty damm good overseas...eggs to order every morning....fresh fruit...steak and lobster on Fridays...chicken breast for lunch, plenty of fish and a free gym. MRE's have plenty of calories...I ate well and trained my ass off when I was insiude the wire...skinny was not an issue..u on the other hand....lay off the lard chubby.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20219330/?GT1=10252
What ya-all think? I don't think anyone would go. Snowballs chance in Hell of it working.
Would I want a Liberal vegetarian next to me in a FireFight? Hell NO!
Halliburton, Conoco, Exon, Gen Dym, Alliant Tech etc should pony up. Its their cabbage patch.
Re-name this thread, it wasn't the "admin" who said it, it was someone in the "admin", clarify yourself lib and quit putting a spin on things, thats what the press does and people like you believe it.
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Threat...yeah I would say cutting offf you're supply of Ho Ho's as a threat...I ate pretty damm good overseas...eggs to order every morning....fresh fruit...steak and lobster on Fridays...chicken breast for lunch, plenty of fish and a free gym. MRE's have plenty of calories...I ate well and trained my ass off when I was insiude the wire...skinny was not an issue..u on the other hand....lay off the lard chubby.
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pssst - you're supposed to eat the fish on Fridays.
If Sister Maria was there, ...she would rap you across the knuckles with a ruler.
Now go say 15 hail marys as penance.
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They should enact the draft in all supporting countries.
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No offence intended to anyone in the armed forces, but I feel the war is unjust so to force people to go and do something that many feel is morally wrong is not cool. Forcing people to run off and join in the illegal invasion of another nation and potentially have to kill people is not exactly cool. I hope America does not institute it.
My tiny island has the draft, however no one cares. Our "soldiers" [and I do use that term loosely ;D] really do, well, nothing.
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The only reason that the anti-war movement hasn't gained any traction is because the military is all-volunteer. If the government tried to institute a draft for such an unpopular war, it would be the '60s all over, with protests on every college campus.
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The only reason that the anti-war movement hasn't gained any traction is because the military is all-volunteer. If the government tried to institute a draft for such an unpopular war, it would be the '60s all over, with protests on every college campus.
Imagine all the guys having to take a break from X-box 360 and Warcraft for a war, LOL!!
It would give a lot of the MMA wannabes some actual fighting experience. :)
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Re-name this thread, it wasn't the "admin" who said it, it was someone in the "admin", clarify yourself lib and quit putting a spin on things, thats what the press does and people like you believe it.
I'm No Liberal! >:( Thems fightin words pal ;D.
Maybe I didn't make it as clear as you'd like, but ppl can read the story and get the picture.
I didnot try to spin anyting. I simply want to see ppls opinion if a draft would ever fly in the USA.
I say NO WAY! That don't mean I'm a liberal. Id lean a lot more towards libertarian.
Thin Lizzy sums it up. THere'd be mass protests like the 60s & 70s.
Are you old enough to have seen the Evac of the Saigon Embassy? I am.
Perhaps you were there? I don't know.
One thing you didn't do - Give your opinion if a Draft would ever work in the USA these days..
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First off.....you need to really really look at the draft protests and what affect they had. Also where they were located. Most protests, while large, where resigned to the Coasts and the associated campuses. The movement was also tied in with Civil Rights marches, so when u watch the History Channel, it looks like all hell was breaking loose. You had Watts riots, DNC riots etc etc. You had the myth of hippies spitting on GI's, which may never really have happened. You had kent state, small protest turned into a huge mess by over zealous and untrained NG soldiers. We have very structured Riot Control procedures these days. They talk about crowd dynamic and how to defuse situations with force or lack of it depending on the situation. We use non-lethal means/weapons etc.
Vietnam was very winnable. We had defeated the VC after Tet, we were bombing the north by 1972. Yet all that had happend prior to, forced US public opinion to shift, and we pulled out. The North knew we could not be defeated militarily so they sapped our will at home. They knew that a spectacular attack, such at TET could push us over the edge. So u got VC attacking the Embassy. That added to fuel the anti-war movement, but more importantly, turned Congress against the war. Yet the aim of TET by the North was two fold...sway Us public opinion and destroy the VC. They knew that they could not allow a militia organization to compete for the South. It was a gamble that paid off. We crushed the VC at Hue, and damaged them at Khe Sahn. No single thing, especially the Draft led to our defeat.
We could face the same thing in Iraq. We have the report coming in a few weeks. One spectactular attack and all public support could be lost. Couple that with a resurgent Draft and we're done in Iraq.
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A draft would essentially end the war. The country isn't committed enough to what they're doing for a draft to fly.
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Imagine all the guys having to take a break from X-box 360 and Warcraft for a war, LOL!!
Not to mention On-line Poker.
"Go to Iraq? I'm in the middle of a no-limit hold'm tournament, here!!" ;D
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Not to mention On-line Poker.
"Go to Iraq? I'm in the middle of a no-limit hold'm tournament, here!!" ;D
If on-line poker addicts and Getbig nuthuggers were included....... sheer force of numbers would overwhelm those bastiges. :)
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any "soldier" participating in this sham of a "war" should face charges for war crimes when they come back to the US, plain and simple.
You are such a fuckin' coward
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Noticed he disappeared after that shit he took, he was either "owning" somebody in the gym, or shoving down bon bons.
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i don't think the draft would end the war..i think personally there'd be a surge of new canadians though. nowadays you only find a few younger people who will join the service even though they know they may or may not have to go to Iraq. There's no guarantee that you will go to Iraq 8 months or so after you join. Going to iraq depends on the unit you go to and whether or not your unit is even needed over in Iraq. Military police,Infantry,Artillery,some Special Forces and Medical units 9 times out of 10 end up going to Iraq. Admin people also but if you are part of the unit and they get mobilized then yeah you are going to go. A draft will only infuriate the American people and then there would be more protests than a mothafugga for sure.
For the last couple of years i've seen alot of people shipped to Iraq and in the 4 years i've been around the services i've only lost one friend to the war. it sucks but like i said people KNOW what they are getting into joining the service. hell its all over the TV so it's not too hard to miss. you have people who are opposed to the war. thats fine thats their perogative to protest. but never forget its the people who has the BALLS to join and fight for this great country that give those twinkie eating couch potato fat slobs the freedom to talk their Bullsh*t on the net or in the streets.
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YUP ;D
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i don't think the draft would end the war..i think personally there'd be a surge of new canadians though. nowadays you only find a few younger people who will join the service even though they know they may or may not have to go to Iraq. There's no guarantee that you will go to Iraq 8 months or so after you join. Going to iraq depends on the unit you go to and whether or not your unit is even needed over in Iraq. Military police,Infantry,Artillery,some Special Forces and Medical units 9 times out of 10 end up going to Iraq. Admin people also but if you are part of the unit and they get mobilized then yeah you are going to go. A draft will only infuriate the American people and then there would be more protests than a mothafugga for sure.
For the last couple of years i've seen alot of people shipped to Iraq and in the 4 years i've been around the services i've only lost one friend to the war. it sucks but like i said people KNOW what they are getting into joining the service. hell its all over the TV so it's not too hard to miss. you have people who are opposed to the war. thats fine thats their perogative to protest. but never forget its the people who has the BALLS to join and fight for this great country that give those twinkie eating couch potato fat slobs the freedom to talk their Bullsh*t on the net or in the streets.
Thats a really good post...
One thing... The news coverage is so censored. Perhaps thats good from your point, but I also feel it's not fair for the average person to NOT have a good clear idea of what it's like for you guys.
I watched Viet Nam on TV as a kid, and that stuff was not Real-Time, But it was REAL!
A Little too real for the public maybee.
I'm struck by the Liveleak Videos and such put up by our guys.
They impress as Very Professional. My hair stands up when I see them advance on a threat.