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When you were a kid, did any of you have a certain time when the family would get together and say a prayer? I did, the time was 6:00 pm. I kinda wish for those days, respectfull towards family.
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Yes. I don't remember the exact time, but it was at night, before bed time. My parents would read the Bible to us, then we would all take turns and each say a prayer. This is one of the best things my parents did for my brothers and I.
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When you were a kid, did any of you have a certain time when the family would get together and say a prayer? I did, the time was 6:00 pm. I kinda wish for those days, respectfull towards family.
No. That would have been great.
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Yes. I don't remember the exact time, but it was at night, before bed time. My parents would read the Bible to us, then we would all take turns and each say a prayer. This is one of the best things my parents did for my brothers and I.
I think so too. At 6:00 pm the TV, radio, video games would be turned off, and we would gather around in the family room and hold our hands up together and say the Lord's prayer. It instilled a sense of family, a sense of together-ness
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We didn't have that, but I do remember many a time hearing my parents pray. I used to open my eyes and watch my father pray sometimes. He would look so intimate when he prayed, as if the Lord were right there sitting next to him. My mom and day used to say the most beautiful prayers it seemed.
I have prayer time with my kids before they go to bed. I sing hymns to them until they are asleep most nights. My most treasured times of the day other than being with my wife, is when I get to read the bible, and tell stories from the bible. The look in my kids' eyes is something to behold. :)
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At dinner we had:
Bless us our lord for these thine gifts, for which we are about to receive, from thy bounty, through christ our lord amen.
At bedtime we had:
Now I lay me down to sleep I pray the lord my soul to keep, If I should die before I wake, I pray the lord my soul to take god bless mom dad etc.
I thought that 'soul' was 'salt' and that the salt I used for my food was very valuable. In retrospect, I see the error.
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We didn't have that, but I do remember many a time hearing my parents pray. I used to open my eyes and watch my father pray sometimes. He would look so intimate when he prayed, as if the Lord were right there sitting next to him. My mom and day used to say the most beautiful prayers it seemed.
I have prayer time with my kids before they go to bed. I sing hymns to them until they are asleep most nights. My most treasured times of the day other than being with my wife, is when I get to read the bible, and tell stories from the bible. The look in my kids' eyes is something to behold. :)
That's beautiful Colossus.
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That's beautiful Colossus.
agree. We should have a crying eye smiley with a smile. :)
I thought that 'soul' was 'salt' and that the salt I used for my food was very valuable.
;D Reminds me of the Jimi Hendrix lyric, "Scuze me while I kiss this guy the sky"
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That's beautiful Colossus.
agree. We should have a crying eye smiley with a smile. :)
thanks, stella and beach. i got kinda teary-eyed just thinking back and seeing my dad pray. i miss him like crazy. if only he could see my children pray and know that it was his influence and heart for God that let me to teach them.
i just hope God is pleased with what i'm doing with the blessings that have been given to me and my wife. i'm so afraid of not getting it right. i don't want my children to grow up doubting who they are or why they exist. and i most assuredly don't want them to believe that knowledge and reason as the world sees it is what points them to truth. it's only our Father in heaven who holds the truth.
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thanks, stella and beach. i got kinda teary-eyed just thinking back and seeing my dad pray. i miss him like crazy. if only he could see my children pray and know that it was his influence and heart for God that let me to teach them.
i just hope God is pleased with what i'm doing with the blessings that have been given to me and my wife. i'm so afraid of not getting it right. i don't want my children to grow up doubting who they are or why they exist. and i most assuredly don't want them to believe that knowledge and reason as the world sees it is what points them to truth. it's only our Father in heaven who holds the truth.
Amen, brother! ;D
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Amen, brother! ;D
:D
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thanks, stella and beach. i got kinda teary-eyed just thinking back and seeing my dad pray. i miss him like crazy. if only he could see my children pray and know that it was his influence and heart for God that let me to teach them.
i just hope God is pleased with what i'm doing with the blessings that have been given to me and my wife. i'm so afraid of not getting it right. i don't want my children to grow up doubting who they are or why they exist. and i most assuredly don't want them to believe that knowledge and reason as the world sees it is what points them to truth. it's only our Father in heaven who holds the truth.
You are doing right, and it will show when your kids grow up, and they will be talking about what their father did for them and how it had a positive influence on them
My mother has always told me: "As long as you have hope, you don't give up, no matter how small that chance of hope is" and I always remember that
And to pray for those in need. I usually say a prayer when I leave for work, to have a save journey, and for my family to have a save journey, to and from work. as well as my co-workers. I told one co-worker that one day, and she was surprised.
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You are doing right, and it will show when your kids grow up, and they will be talking about what their father did for them and how it had a positive influence on them
My mother has always told me: "As long as you have hope, you don't give up, no matter how small that chance of hope is" and I always remember that
And to pray for those in need. I usually say a prayer when I leave for work, to have a save journey, and for my family to have a save journey, to and from work. as well as my co-workers. I told one co-worker that one day, and she was surprised.
Thanks, Parker. Your mom gave you some GREAT advice. It's amazing what we treasure from our youth and the things our parents have influenced us with. I bet your co-worker felt good in knowing that you prayed for her safety as well as your other co-workers.
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We didn't have that, but I do remember many a time hearing my parents pray. I used to open my eyes and watch my father pray sometimes. He would look so intimate when he prayed, as if the Lord were right there sitting next to him. My mom and day used to say the most beautiful prayers it seemed.
I have prayer time with my kids before they go to bed. I sing hymns to them until they are asleep most nights. My most treasured times of the day other than being with my wife, is when I get to read the bible, and tell stories from the bible. The look in my kids' eyes is something to behold. :)
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Tawk amongst yourselves... I'm getting verklempt!
Sometimes one of my biggest joys is to watch my little neices pray. Just precious.
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yes, every night all 9 of us would sit for 10mins whilst mny dad read out prayers and selected passages from the boble as directed by a catholic family prayer book. it stopped as we all got older and fought that we never wanted to do it. my dad prays all the time. i pray too tho at no set time apart from mass on sunday and all holy days of obligation etc.
a;lso in may and novemebr rather than sy the prayers ead bible etc we said the rosary
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yes, every night all 9 of us would sit for 10mins whilst mny dad read out prayers and selected passages from the boble as directed by a catholic family prayer book. it stopped as we all got older and fought that we never wanted to do it. my dad prays all the time. i pray too tho at no set time apart from mass on sunday and all holy days of obligation etc.
a;lso in may and novemebr rather than sy the prayers ead bible etc we said the rosary
I'm having one right now...
Hail Mary full of grace, blessed art thou among women, ...and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus...
...now can you get Goudy a spell checker before my brain explodes trying understand what he types. ;D
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When you were a kid, did any of you have a certain time when the family would get together and say a prayer? I did, the time was 6:00 pm. I kinda wish for those days, respectfull towards family.
1.4 billion people on this planet have family prayer time 5 times/day..
called muslims :-\
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thanks, stella and beach. i got kinda teary-eyed just thinking back and seeing my dad pray. i miss him like crazy. if only he could see my children pray and know that it was his influence and heart for God that let me to teach them.
i just hope God is pleased with what i'm doing with the blessings that have been given to me and my wife. i'm so afraid of not getting it right. i don't want my children to grow up doubting who they are or why they exist. and i most assuredly don't want them to believe that knowledge and reason as the world sees it is what points them to truth. it's only our Father in heaven who holds the truth.
You speak of God.
How do you know there is a God?
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You speak of God.
How do you know there is a God?
how does one know there isn't one...unfortunately athiesm is as much faith based as is religion...
athiests are generally smarter however ;D
:D
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how does one know there isn't one...unfortunately athiesm is as much faith based as is religion...
athiests are generally smarter however ;D
:D
Atheism and atheists?
Generally, perhaps. 8)
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Atheism and atheists?
Generally, perhaps. 8)
i make no qualms about the fact that i usually dont bother to learn how to spell nor do i bother with spell check :-\
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1.4 billion people on this planet have family prayer time 5 times/day..
called muslims :-\
Wow, still an idiot. Still can't spell.
Got a gf yet or are you still smoking man-cigars?
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Wow, still an idiot. Still can't spell.
Got a gf yet or are you still smoking man-cigars?
Wow, still an idiot. Still can't spell.
Got a gf yet or are you still smoking man-cigars?
heyya bitch! ;D
ahem ..ya still attack like i have a self esteem issue.. :-\
hmm
you know where i work .. www.asmed.com
you know my name Junaid Memon
and you have seen several pictures of me
hmm what do we know about you? hmm you hate muslims and islam...thats all...and the glee ya put into your hatefull posts prolly in a jungian way points to " a brownie fucked my girlfriend"
nuff said
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heyya bitch! ;D
ahem ..ya still attack like i have a self esteem issue.. :-\
hmm
you know where i work .. www.asmed.com
you know my name Junaid Memon
and you have seen several pictures of me
hmm what do we know about you? hmm you hate muslims and islam...thats all...and the glee ya put into your hatefull posts prolly in a jungian way points to " a brownie fucked my girlfriend"
nuff said
I hate islam u assclown. I don't have the energy to hate every individual muslim.
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I hate islam u assclown. I don't have the energy to hate every individual muslim.
yeah yeah yeah...no body here gives a shit...
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I hate islam u assclown. I don't have the energy to hate every individual muslim.
If you are going to call him out, then atleast have some ammo of your own. No pictures, yet you act like some damn prodigy.
Atleast toxy backs his stuff up, despite it backfiring a lot of times.
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If you are going to call him out, then atleast have some ammo of your own. No pictures, yet you act like some damn prodigy.
Atleast toxy backs his stuff up, despite it backfiring a lot of times.
according to nord he works for one of the top IT firms in the industry..he wont mention which...and he is a softwear designer..or something of that sort yet avoids simple ipv4 and ipv6 questions i throw at him.. :-\
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I don't claim to be this that without backing it up.. Looks to be the same with you.
I say what I can IRL, granted it doesn't put me in a bad situation or get me in trouble. Maybe Nord is like that? Or maybe he's a keyboard warrior like so many here?
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If you are going to call him out, then atleast have some ammo of your own. No pictures, yet you act like some damn prodigy.
Atleast toxy backs his stuff up, despite it backfiring a lot of times.
Right, yeah, I'll jepordise my career with the opinions and trash talking I do on here. ::)
Prodigy? Erm WTF? When did I say I was a fucking prodigy? I brag about a damn thing.
according to nord he works for one of the top IT firms in the industry..he wont mention which...and he is a softwear designer..or something of that sort yet avoids simple ipv4 and ipv6 questions i throw at him.. :-\
Oh brother. Please try harder...
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You speak of God.
How do you know there is a God?
How do you know there isn't?
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How do you know there isn't?
Nice response. Lets try my question one more time:
How do you know there is a God?
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Nice response. Lets try my question one more time:
How do you know there is a God?
And so the wheel begins to turn. ;D
Yes, let's try this again:
How do you know there is NOT a God?
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Oh brother. Please try harder...
1) nord enters thread specifically to attack me
2) nord gets spanked
3) nord turns pious and acts hurt
how many times has this played out.. :-\
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And so the wheel begins to turn. ;D
Yes, let's try this again:
How do you know there is NOT a God?
I never said there was no God.
I am asking you, you are teaching others (your kids) that there is a God: How do you know there is a God?
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We know that there is a God, because there are writtings that have endured incredible odds, for nearly 6ooo years. There are over 1 million words in the bible without one single error. The Biblical authors are also responsible for a fraction of the earth's population (example: King Solomon) in their times. They are also commonly associated with tremendous amounts of adversary in their lives and lived among the cruelest, darkest times the earth has ever seen. Hardly the grade four student that is capable of making up such a fairy tail. Furthemore, if you read from Genesis to Revelations from a neutral position, you will find the evidence overwhelming and much of it's history consistant with some of the major events that have occurred in this world; examples: Babylonian Exile, Persian Rule, Greek followed by Roman days to name a few. If you choose not to believe anyone that has been associated with the formation of the Bible then at least be wise enough to know that these people have absolutely nothing to gain by writting a lie that is going to be read 50 generations after they're dead.
A person cannot become 800+ years old.
Several characters in the Old Testament reaches extreme age. That's not possible. We know today that the human body cannot live for several hundred years.
There is no evidence of Noah's Arc, or The Flood.
All these writings don't matter however. Because writings from other cultures have survived
And you claim that the Bible has writtings in it that has survived for nearly 6000 years.
Even Biblic scholars claim that the Bible is cerca 3000 years old, and yet you claim it is some 6000 years old. What source do you have on that?
Clue: Did anyone write back then? ::)
And honestly, if you've been told by your minister that there is 6000 year old stuff in the Bible, I'd like to know.
We got to fight the ignorance together you know. 8)
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1) nord enters thread specifically to attack me
2) nord gets spanked
3) nord turns pious and acts hurt
how many times has this played out.. :-\
How many times has your false information played out?
See: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=165163.25
Lay of the coke comrade!
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See: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=165163.25
dont flatter yourself..
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dont flatter yourself..
How's the taxi business going lad?
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I never said there was no God.
I am asking you, you are teaching others (your kids) that there is a God: How do you know there is a God?
Cool, now we're getting somewhere...
I can only teach of my knowledge of God based on my own personal testimony and my relationship with Him.
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How's the taxi business going lad?
did the pakis make ya flee your own country? ;D
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A person cannot become 800+ years old.
Several characters in the Old Testament reaches extreme age. That's not possible. We know today that the human body cannot live for several hundred years.
There is no evidence of Noah's Arc, or The Flood.
All these writings don't matter however. Because writings from other cultures have survived
And you claim that the Bible has writtings in it that has survived for nearly 6000 years.
Even Biblical scholars claim that the Bible is ceca 3000 years old, and yet you claim it is some 6000 years old. What source do you have on that?
Clue: Did anyone write back then? ::)
And honestly, if you've been told by your minister that there is 6000 year old stuff in the Bible, I'd like to know.
We got to fight the ignorance together you know. 8)
lets start with the 6000 year issue.If you calculate the time lineage between Adam, Seth,... Lame ch, Noah,... Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,... King David, Solomon,... All the way to Jesus. It runs through 4000 years and Jesus lived 2000 years ago. Your atheist biblical Scholars can confirm that.
Now the old age issue. you said people cant live that long TODAY; key word TODAY. You know that the world was extremely different pre flood. There was alot more oxygen in our atmosphere that allowed them to live that long.( I will be more then happy to go into detail about this subject if you want) There are an astonishing amounts of human remains found in this century of people over 12 feet tall(national geographic has written plenty of articles of these types of archaeological find. I believe the tallest bone stricture found is in the 13 tto 14 foot range. My point being is that the tallest human on this planet since the birth of America is a measly 8 foot and change. this is a perfect example of something that occurred in the past but cant happen again ever.
The flood did occur by the way and there is more evedance then your silly big bang theory.
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lets start with the 6000 year issue.If you calculate the time lineage between Adam, Seth,... Lame ch, Noah,... Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,... King David, Solomon,... All the way to Jesus. It runs through 4000 years and Jesus lived 2000 years ago. Your atheist biblical Scholars can confirm that.
Now the old age issue. you said people cant live that long TODAY; key word TODAY. You know that the world was extremely different pre flood. There was alot more oxygen in our atmosphere that allowed them to live that long.( I will be more then happy to go into detail about this subject if you want) There are an astonishing amounts of human remains found in this century of people over 12 feet tall(national geographic has written plenty of articles of these types of archaeological find. I believe the tallest bone stricture found is in the 13 tto 14 foot range. My point being is that the tallest human on this planet since the birth of America is a measly 8 foot and change. this is a perfect example of something that occurred in the past but cant happen again ever.
The flood did occur by the way and there is more evedance then your silly big bang theory.
I have to assume that this is Johnny Apollo back playing.
:D
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I have to assume that this is Johnny Apollo back playing.
:D
actually no. I am a Knew member and i have seen some interesting questions asked so i decided to debate. but thanks for keeping our conversation civilized.
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lets start with the 6000 year issue.If you calculate the time lineage between Adam, Seth,... Lame ch, Noah,... Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,... King David, Solomon,... All the way to Jesus. It runs through 4000 years and Jesus lived 2000 years ago. Your atheist biblical Scholars can confirm that.
Now the old age issue. you said people cant live that long TODAY; key word TODAY. You know that the world was extremely different pre flood. There was alot more oxygen in our atmosphere that allowed them to live that long.( I will be more then happy to go into detail about this subject if you want) There are an astonishing amounts of human remains found in this century of people over 12 feet tall(national geographic has written plenty of articles of these types of archaeological find. I believe the tallest bone stricture found is in the 13 tto 14 foot range. My point being is that the tallest human on this planet since the birth of America is a measly 8 foot and change. this is a perfect example of something that occurred in the past but cant happen again ever.
The flood did occur by the way and there is more evedance then your silly big bang theory.
Good post, Onetimehard! But Hedgehog is correct in that the Old Testament is about 3,000 years old, about 3,452 to be exact. God created Adam and Eve, maybe about 6,000 years ago, but Moses didn't write about it until some 3,000 years later.
Book Author Date Written
Genesis Moses ? - 1445 B.C.
Exodus Moses 1445 - 1405 B.C.
Leviticus Moses 1405 B.C.
Numbers Moses 1444 - 1405 B.C.
Deuteronomy Moses 1405 B.C.
Joshua Joshua 1404-1390 B.C.
Judges Samuel 1374-1129 B.C.
Ruth Samuel 1150? B.C.
First Samuel Samuel 1043-1011 B.C.
Second Samuel Ezra? 1011-1004 B.C.
First Kings Jeremiah? 971-852 B.C.
Second Kings Jeremiah? 852-587 B.C.
First Chronicles Ezra? 450 - 425 B.C.
Second Chronicles Ezra? 450 - 425 B.C.
Ezra Ezra 538-520 B.C.
Nehemiah Nehemiah 445 - 425 B.C.
Esther Mordecai? 465 B.C.
Job Job? ??
Psalms David 1000? B.C.
Sons of Korah wrote Psalms 42, 44-49, 84-85, 87; Asaph wrote Psalms 50, 73-83; Heman wrote Psalm 88; Ethan wrote Psalm 89; Hezekiah wrote Psalms 120-123, 128-130, 132, 134-136;
Solomon wrote Psalms 72, 127.
Proverbs Solomon wrote 1-29
Agur wrote 30
Lemuel wrote 31 950 - 700 B.C.
Ecclesiastes Solomon 935 B.C.
Song of Solomon Solomon 965 B.C.
Isaiah Isaiah 740 - 680 B.C.
Jeremiah Jeremiah 627 - 585 B.C.
Lamentations Jeremiah 586 B.C.
Ezekiel Ezekiel 593-560 B.C.
Daniel Daniel 605-536 B.C.
Hosea Hosea 710 B.C.
Joel Joel 835 B.C.
Amos Amos 755 B.C.
Obadiah Obadiah 840 or 586 B.C.
Jonah Jonah 760 B.C.
Micah Micah 700 B.C.
Nahum Nahum 663 - 612 B.C.
Habakkuk Habakkuk 607 B.C.
Zephaniah Zephaniah 625 B.C.
Haggai Haggai 520 B.C.
Zechariah Zechariah 520 - 518 B.C.
Malachi Malachi 450 - 600 B.C.
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Good post, Onetimehard! But Hedgehog is correct in that the Old Testament is about 3,000 years old, about 3,452 to be exact. God created Adam and Eve, maybe about 6,000 years ago, but Moses didn't write about it until some 3,000 years later.
Book Author Date Written
Genesis Moses ? - 1445 B.C.
Exodus Moses 1445 - 1405 B.C.
Leviticus Moses 1405 B.C.
Numbers Moses 1444 - 1405 B.C.
Deuteronomy Moses 1405 B.C.
Joshua Joshua 1404-1390 B.C.
Judges Samuel 1374-1129 B.C.
Ruth Samuel 1150? B.C.
First Samuel Samuel 1043-1011 B.C.
Second Samuel Ezra? 1011-1004 B.C.
First Kings Jeremiah? 971-852 B.C.
Second Kings Jeremiah? 852-587 B.C.
First Chronicles Ezra? 450 - 425 B.C.
Second Chronicles Ezra? 450 - 425 B.C.
Ezra Ezra 538-520 B.C.
Nehemiah Nehemiah 445 - 425 B.C.
Esther Mordecai? 465 B.C.
Job Job? ??
Psalms David 1000? B.C.
Sons of Korah wrote Psalms 42, 44-49, 84-85, 87; Asaph wrote Psalms 50, 73-83; Heman wrote Psalm 88; Ethan wrote Psalm 89; Hezekiah wrote Psalms 120-123, 128-130, 132, 134-136;
Solomon wrote Psalms 72, 127.
Proverbs Solomon wrote 1-29
Agur wrote 30
Lemuel wrote 31 950 - 700 B.C.
Ecclesiastes Solomon 935 B.C.
Song of Solomon Solomon 965 B.C.
Isaiah Isaiah 740 - 680 B.C.
Jeremiah Jeremiah 627 - 585 B.C.
Lamentations Jeremiah 586 B.C.
Ezekiel Ezekiel 593-560 B.C.
Daniel Daniel 605-536 B.C.
Hosea Hosea 710 B.C.
Joel Joel 835 B.C.
Amos Amos 755 B.C.
Obadiah Obadiah 840 or 586 B.C.
Jonah Jonah 760 B.C.
Micah Micah 700 B.C.
Nahum Nahum 663 - 612 B.C.
Habakkuk Habakkuk 607 B.C.
Zephaniah Zephaniah 625 B.C.
Haggai Haggai 520 B.C.
Zechariah Zechariah 520 - 518 B.C.
Malachi Malachi 450 - 600 B.C.
Wow your very educated on this subject. Good for you, However I did not make a mistake, and i totally agree with your numbers. If you look at my first paregraph in my first post i did not say the bible authors are 6000 years old I said "writings". These writings Im refering to are not in the bible but they are writings that Moses had to have copied in order to make the book of Genesis. Some People that have studied about the teachings in the first 5 books think there were probably 10 or so original writters.