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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: chris_mason on August 12, 2007, 12:28:51 PM
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In the PR thread I mentioned I got 405 lbs x 20 last Sunday. I was still a bit sore in the hamstrings from that session but wanted to try my new camera and to verify my claims. This video is of my doing 495 lbs x 10. I probably had 1-2 more in me, but I didn't want to go too nuts.
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Are they better to do from the floor? For years I stop a couple inches from the ground and continue. I guess I have been doing them wrong :-[
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Nice lifts Chris!
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Are they better to do from the floor? For years I stop a couple inches from the ground and continue. I guess I have been doing them wrong :-[
hitting the floor helps a bit...
nice reps dude.
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I don't know that it makes a huge difference if you do them from the floor or a few inches short.
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Strong dude, all the way strong dude!
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good form clean reps awesome strength !! you have skills !
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Do you want to try for 225x112 next session? ::)
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Thanks all! Note, no belt. I did use straps and I always do when I go over 3 reps or so. The hook grip just doesn't like higher reps.
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Good lifts. Waiting for our residence "downer" to come on here and say something bad about them
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Do you want to try for 225x112 next session? ::)
Lol, NO! I wonder what I could get...but not that much! I would feel like such utter shit after a set like that. The 405 x 20 made me feel shitty enough...
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Lol, NO! I wonder what I could get...but not that much! I would feel like such utter shit after a set like that. The 405 x 20 made me feel shitty enough...
225 burnout might be a good change... try it for fun?
i bet you can do 59.
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Very impressive. Wouldn't for the life of me even go near to doing something like that. My lower back is sore just getting out of bed in the morning. :D
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you're a very good dlifter chris, which is all the more impressive seeing that it's very hard to cheat or get assistance on dl.
well done.
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you're a very good dlifter chris, which is all the more impressive seeing that it's very hard to cheat or get assistance on dl.
well done.
Thank you. I am also drug-free. Really and truly. One of these days I may get on some shit and see what I can really do...
Anyway, I very much appreciate the compliment.
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Thank you. I am also drug-free. Really and truly. One of these days I may get on some shit and see what I can really do...
Anyway, I very much appreciate the compliment.
You shouldn't.
You're one helluva deadlifter, and IMO could probably hang with the best in the world. You definitely have the talent for it.
I'd love to see you start doing some meets, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a mid 700 lbs from your ass in a year or so.
Consider that Wade Hooper, Cieri, Ribic or Gillingham didn't start to post their best lifts until they were well into their 30's.
Inspiring, and a clip I will use for motivation for a long time. Thanks Mason.
And you did it, despite working 12 000 hours a week... ;D
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you made the 500 lbs look like nothing, impressive! 8)
one thing though ur back looks abit too round at the bottom of the motion, careful with that
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you made the 500 lbs look like nothing, impressive! 8)
one thing though ur back looks abit too round at the bottom of the motion, careful with that
Upper back yes. He has most likely conditioned his body to handle it just fine.
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Upper back yes. He has most likely conditioned his body to handle it just fine.
you always "handle" it until that one time that you don't
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Props Chris!
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All I can say is, DAMN. No weight belt either. DAMN.
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All I can say is, DAMN. No weight belt either. DAMN.
Weightbelts are for housewives and lesbians.
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shit, i cannot even deadlift that weight :(
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Excellent lifting Chris - looks like you're built for that type of exercise with the longer arms and shorter legs but even so it's impressive nonetheless. :)
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Your a strong ole cuss! :o
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Very impressive, as always.
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jebuz!
Awesome lifts, bro..
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Thanks all!
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Wow, Very impressive lift Chris, well done!
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Good set...how much do u weigh Chris?
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You doin these for power or growth? Seems to me like you have no contraction on the negative, like you drop it then pull it up. Be careful, you can TEAR your ham like that, and you are only getting half the benefit from the exercise.
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Good set...how much do u weigh Chris?
215-216 lbs
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good lifting, skinny legs.
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FUCKING INSPIRATIONAL LIFTING CHRIS! THAT WAS AMAZING! :o :o One day I hope to be up there with you in strength! INCREDIBLE BRO!
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FUCKING INSPIRATIONAL LIFTING CHRIS! THAT WAS AMAZING! :o :o One day I hope to be up there with you in strength! INCREDIBLE BRO!
Thanks!
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Awesome strength as always.
8)
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fucking yeah...it's nice to see real strong people post here beside shittalkers. Hey Chris , Ihave always found deadlifting of the floor to be much harder than of the rack and stopping 2-3 inches above ...I find them miles apart . I deadlift of the floor also .
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very strong good form as well.
stay clean though it's not worth it wrecking your system for lifitng.
just look at poor squatfatter that tiny twat vaginal grease spot megajuiced for years and still never broke 230 lbs or benched or dead nowhere close to 495 or squated more than 4 plates.
what a fat loser maroon!
what do you deadlift conventionaly 650-700?
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very strong good form as well.
stay clean though it's not worth it wrecking your system for lifitng.
just look at poor squatfatter that tiny twat vaginal grease spot megajuiced for years and still never broke 230 lbs or benched or dead nowhere close to 495 or squated more than 4 plates.
what a fat loser maroon!
what do you deadlift conventionaly 650-700?
I'm right at 700 lbs as of now.
Thanks for the compliment!
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Great lift, musclebear
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god damn man...good lift...
no belt???
Great lift, musclebear
dude have you ever posted without saying something gay
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The intensity you lifted in that clip made me want to puke, Im not joking good job.
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Chris is strong,but obviously has good cardio as well.10 reps with 500 in your hands takes some wind.Nice set.
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Chris is strong,but obviously has good cardio as well.10 reps with 500 in your hands takes some wind.Nice set.
I was thinking the same, hes a machine, I dont think ive ever seena clip of someone his size, and natural nail 500 for 10.
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dude have you ever posted without saying something gay
A couple of times, but hey, I'm not perfect ;D
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Chris is strong,but obviously has good cardio as well.10 reps with 500 in your hands takes some wind.Nice set.
Not as strong as you! >:(
Thanks for the compliment Billy!
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Nice clip. You are strong. I love that you don't use a belt.
Strong core!
Sandra
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Nice clip. You are strong. I love that you don't use a belt.
Strong core!
Sandra
Thanks!
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Damn strong - very impressive even if you weren't clean, but all the more so that you are. BIG PROPS and mad respect to you!
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Damn strong - very impressive even if you weren't clean, but all the more so that you are. BIG PROPS and mad respect to you!
Thanks Ron!
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Incredible strength man. I have never seen anything like that, especially clean.
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holy L-5/ S-1, Batman
how is your lower back doing after those?? looks like u had a little bit too much lumbar flexion during those sldls bro.
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Very impressive indeed. :o
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Strong bastard! ;)
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holy L-5/ S-1, Batman
how is your lower back doing after those?? looks like u had a little bit too much lumbar flexion during those sldls bro.
My lumbar was just fine in that video. Really. Some of the best deadlifters of all time pull in much the same fashion.
Example: http://www.gometal.com/videot/konstantin_deadlift_430.wmv
Open the file, it is safe. It shows Konstantin Konstantinov pulling an incredible 430 kg (~946 lbs) at 275 lbs in body weight. He and I pull with a very similar form (albeit he pulls a LOT more). Bob Peoples also used a very similar form.
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My lumbar was just fine in that video. Really. Some of the best deadlifters of all time pull in much the same fashion.
Example: http://www.gometal.com/videot/konstantin_deadlift_430.wmv
Open the file, it is safe. It shows Konstantin Konstantinov pulling an incredible 430 kg (~946 lbs) at 275 lbs in body weight. He and I pull with a very similar form (albeit he pulls a LOT more). Bob Peoples also used a very similar form.
Do not open!
It contains muscle bear propaganda!
j/k Mason. ;D
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My lumbar was just fine in that video. Really. Some of the best deadlifters of all time pull in much the same fashion.
Example: http://www.gometal.com/videot/konstantin_deadlift_430.wmv
Open the file, it is safe. It shows Konstantin Konstantinov pulling an incredible 430 kg (~946 lbs) at 275 lbs in body weight. He and I pull with a very similar form (albeit he pulls a LOT more). Bob Peoples also used a very similar form.
good god. :o
incredible lift that last one.
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holy L-5/ S-1, Batman
how is your lower back doing after those?? looks like u had a little bit too much lumbar flexion during those sldls bro.
I agree.
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good god. :o
incredible lift that last one.
Yes it is! I think that man and Bolton are the 2 best deadlifters in the world right now and perhaps ever.
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Yes it is! I think that man and Bolton are the 2 best deadlifters in the world right now and perhaps ever.
Benedikt Magnusson is as good as either one of them.
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I give props to you lifting that weight, but Jeezus christ your form is horrible. Provided you had proper form you could easily strap on 50-75lbs for the same reps. Does anyone on here deadlift? I can't believe all of the good comments about form. Your reps are extremely commendable but the form is a backattack waiting to happen. Your legs hardly move, your back isn't even close to flat and your ass is waaaaay too high. I am not flaming whatsoever just stating the facts with all honesty. Congrats on the reps but you have so much more potential with better form. I hope you take this the right way and don't rip my head off...just trying to help! ;)
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I give props to you lifting that weight, but Jeezus christ your form is horrible. Provided you had proper form you could easily strap on 50-75lbs for the same reps. Does anyone on here deadlift? I can't believe all of the good comments about form. Your reps are extremely commendable but the form is a backattack waiting to happen. Your legs hardly move, your back isn't even close to flat and your ass is waaaaay too high. I am not flaming whatsoever just stating the facts with all honesty. Congrats on the reps but you have so much more potential with better form. I hope you take this the right way and don't rip my head off...just trying to help! ;)
there's really nothing wrong with his "form", if you notice his body stayed in pretty much the same position from the first rep that's the true test of how good or bad his form is, "form" is an individual thing for the most part dependant upon bodytype, leverages, length of arms, legs, torso, etc., it always makes me laugh when a guys body doesn't perform an exercise like a robot people say he's using bad form, everyone's hips pop up a little bit deadlfting, some of the biggest deadlifters of all time have been almost "all back" deadlifters as opposed to guys who dip their legs and squat down into the lift.
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there's really nothing wrong with his "form", if you notice his body stayed in pretty much the same position from the first rep that's the true test of how good or bad his form is, "form" is an individual thing for the most part dependant upon bodytype, leverages, length of arms, legs, torso, etc..
I'm sorry bro' but I disagree. Form is very specific. If you look at the video he posted even that guy "sits" into the deadlift and powers up with his legs simulatneously pushing his hips forward and making his back up right. Bending over doing a good morning style deadlift working your hams is not close to the proper definition of deadlifting. Search a few vids and you'll see what I mean...
Here's one, shitty video but see how upright his back is...way stronger, better body harmony:
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I'm sorry bro' but I disagree. Form is very specific. If you look at the video he posted even that guy "sits" into the deadlift and powers up with his legs simulatneously pushing his hips forward and making his back up right. Bending over doing a good morning style deadlift working your hams is not close to the proper definition of deadlifting. Search a few vids and you'll see what I mean...
Here's one, shitty video but see how upright his back is...way stronger, better body harmony:
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there really is no "proper definition" of deadlifting other than pulling the bar off the floor to a fully locked out position without hitching.
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thats because the guy in the video is doing them sumo which uses alot less back and more hips
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Damn good lifting Chris..........as usual I might add !!
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Check out this video of Jouko Ahola...crazy ass Anadrol nose bleeds...
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that's pretty sick...
I've always done stiff legs on an elevated platform so that I can get full extension, but jesus I'm only pulling 315
maybe I do it that way because I'm a pussy and could never stiff leg that much weight..
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I give props to you lifting that weight, but Jeezus christ your form is horrible. Provided you had proper form you could easily strap on 50-75lbs for the same reps. Does anyone on here deadlift? I can't believe all of the good comments about form. Your reps are extremely commendable but the form is a backattack waiting to happen. Your legs hardly move, your back isn't even close to flat and your ass is waaaaay too high. I am not flaming whatsoever just stating the facts with all honesty. Congrats on the reps but you have so much more potential with better form. I hope you take this the right way and don't rip my head off...just trying to help! ;)
Moron, I am doing stiff-legged deadlifts hence my legs are not moving much.
I work with some of the best powerlifters in the world. I am lucky enough to speak with Louie Simmons personally. I know something about deadlifting...
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I give props to you lifting that weight, but Jeezus christ your form is horrible. Provided you had proper form you could easily strap on 50-75lbs for the same reps. Does anyone on here deadlift? I can't believe all of the good comments about form. Your reps are extremely commendable but the form is a backattack waiting to happen. Your legs hardly move, your back isn't even close to flat and your ass is waaaaay too high. I am not flaming whatsoever just stating the facts with all honesty. Congrats on the reps but you have so much more potential with better form. I hope you take this the right way and don't rip my head off...just trying to help! ;)
Do you deadlift? If so, how much have you pulled? Chris is obviously an extremely experienced deadlifter. He knows the angles where he gets most leverage and power. You aren't talking to a newbie and I doubt he needs your help.
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My lumbar was just fine in that video. Really. Some of the best deadlifters of all time pull in much the same fashion.
Example: http://www.gometal.com/videot/konstantin_deadlift_430.wmv
Open the file, it is safe. It shows Konstantin Konstantinov pulling an incredible 430 kg (~946 lbs) at 275 lbs in body weight. He and I pull with a very similar form (albeit he pulls a LOT more). Bob Peoples also used a very similar form.
nice lift, your form looked much better than konstantinov. his back was rounded much of the time.
shouldn't the head and neck be in line with the back or is it normal for people to put their head down during the lift?
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Good lifts!
In my opinion, many...if not most of the 'correct' ways to do an exercise are wrong.
Biomechanically, there are so many leverage points, and joint angles...especially in a multi-joint movement like the deadlift that a generalized 'form' instruction of "keep your head up" is really pointless.
Unless you're willing to measure the shearing forces, fulcrum, joint angle, distance from the midline of the body, etc., etc. for each vertebrae (taking into consideration a person's natural predisposition to kyphosis or lordosis at each section of the spine), also taking into consideration the hip, knee, shoulder, elbow and wrist joints....and doing this for EACH person doing the lift, you can't really be certain of a correct form.
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Good lifts!
In my opinion, many...if not most of the 'correct' ways to do an exercise are wrong.
Biomechanically, there are so many leverage points, and joint angles...especially in a multi-joint movement like the deadlift that a generalized 'form' instruction of "keep your head up" is really pointless.
Unless you're willing to measure the shearing forces, fulcrum, joint angle, distance from the midline of the body, etc., etc. for each vertebrae (taking into consideration a person's natural predisposition to kyphosis or lordosis at each section of the spine), also taking into consideration the hip, knee, shoulder, elbow and wrist joints....and doing this for EACH person doing the lift, you can't really be certain of a correct form.
what he said
chris, you better change your style post haste man, the internet gurus have spoken. ;D
what squadfather and troponin said is correct. there is no absolute method to d/lift, just some fundamentals, but it should be obvious that the man knows what he's doing.
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Good lifts!
In my opinion, many...if not most of the 'correct' ways to do an exercise are wrong.
Biomechanically, there are so many leverage points, and joint angles...especially in a multi-joint movement like the deadlift that a generalized 'form' instruction of "keep your head up" is really pointless.
Unless you're willing to measure the shearing forces, fulcrum, joint angle, distance from the midline of the body, etc., etc. for each vertebrae (taking into consideration a person's natural predisposition to kyphosis or lordosis at each section of the spine), also taking into consideration the hip, knee, shoulder, elbow and wrist joints....and doing this for EACH person doing the lift, you can't really be certain of a correct form.
on the money...thats why everyone lifts so differently...
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chris great lift...
with deadlifts u either can lift or cant
good lifts
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Do you deadlift? If so, how much have you pulled? Chris is obviously an extremely experienced deadlifter. He knows the angles where he gets most leverage and power. You aren't talking to a newbie and I doubt he needs your help.
Easy bigguy, just giving my opinion on an opinionated board. My best for reps in all honesty is less than what he's doing for reps. Using a strength coach from UNLV I managed to pound 405 for reps and then quickly moved away from deads for the summer. The only reason I mention about form is because on video I did the same type of technique as him and I made tremendous progress by switching my form so I will agree everyone is different and he could possibly benefit as well. Only he can make that call. For me my legs where the strong point, not my back. Just my .02's...its all good... ;)
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Easy bigguy, just giving my opinion on an opinionated board. My best for reps in all honesty is less than what he's doing for reps. Using a strength coach from UNLV I managed to pound 405 for reps and then quickly moved away from deads for the summer. The only reason I mention about form is because on video I did the same type of technique as him and I made tremendous progress by switching my form so I will agree everyone is different and he could possibly benefit as well. Only he can make that call. For me my legs where the strong point, not my back. Just my .02's...its all good... ;)
Don't forget that he was doing stiff legged deadlifts. If he would have wanted to pull a maximal single rep he would have bent his legs more.
There are tons of variations and exercises you can do to build your deadlift to strengthen every part of the chain. For example I do good mornings seated, standing, straight back, sometimes slightly round back, wide stance, short range, full range, concentric etc. Same with deads; straight leg, bent leg, arched back, rounded back, deficit deads, deficit with snatch grip, rack pulls, speed pulls and on and on.
Looking at Chris' strength I'm sure he has put in a lot of time and thought into his training so I doubt he is rounding his back out of ignorance. See what I'm saying?
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Don't forget that he was doing stiff legged deadlifts. If he would have wanted to pull a maximal single rep he would have bent his legs more.
There are tons of variations and exercises you can do to build your deadlift to strengthen every part of the chain. For example I do good mornings seated, standing, straight back, sometimes slightly round back, wide stance, short range, full range, concentric etc. Same with deads; straight leg, bent leg, arched back, rounded back, deficit deads, deficit with snatch grip, rack pulls, speed pulls and on and on.
Looking at Chris' strength I'm sure he has put in a lot of time and thought into his training so I doubt he is rounding his back out of ignorance. See what I'm saying?
That makes total sense...i'm pretty one dimensional sometimes. ;D
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Good lifts!
In my opinion, many...if not most of the 'correct' ways to do an exercise are wrong.
Biomechanically, there are so many leverage points, and joint angles...especially in a multi-joint movement like the deadlift that a generalized 'form' instruction of "keep your head up" is really pointless.
Unless you're willing to measure the shearing forces, fulcrum, joint angle, distance from the midline of the body, etc., etc. for each vertebrae (taking into consideration a person's natural predisposition to kyphosis or lordosis at each section of the spine), also taking into consideration the hip, knee, shoulder, elbow and wrist joints....and doing this for EACH person doing the lift, you can't really be certain of a correct form.
Thanks Justin.
One more thing, you can train your body to accept certain forces. In other words, I worked my way up in strength gradually over time and allowed my body to keep pace with the ever increasing loads.
The same phenomena can be seen with Olympic lifters who can literally bounce at the rock bottom position of a front squat with over 500 lbs placing incredible stress on their knees. They can do so because they have trained for it and conditioned the connective tissue in their knees.
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Awesome lifts! But watching your back hunched over like that made my spine tingle :-\ Be careful, bro!
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(http://www.exrx.net/AnimatedEx/ErectorSpinae/BBStiffLegDeadlift.gif)
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Thanks Justin.
One more thing, you can train your body to accept certain forces. In other words, I worked my way up in strength gradually over time and allowed my body to keep pace with the ever increasing loads.
The same phenomena can be seen with Olympic lifters who can literally bounce at the rock bottom position of a front squat with over 500 lbs placing incredible stress on their knees. They can do so because they have trained for it and conditioned the connective tissue in their knees.
Who goves a shit about your form, you naturally got ten reps on 500 poundson deadlift lol.
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Watching some of the posts who cl;early belong to nerds who can't even roll 500 lbs on the floor criticizing his form and telling chris to be careful with his back hahahhaa :D