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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Bobby on August 15, 2007, 04:15:26 PM
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I've seen in DVDs etc... Pros say they usually work abs once a week, but during contest prep/diet they increase it to 3 times a week or more, what is the reason for this? Why do pros train their abs more often during a contest prep?
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they are fucking retarded. thats why.
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they are fucking retarded. thats why.
haha, partially true.
It's probably mental but most just want them to "pop" a little more.
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dexter says he never works his abs
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dexter says he never works his abs
Pros are liars.
Hope this helps.
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because on stage you work the shit out of your abs with all the flexing, you need to work on the endurance of the abs before contest
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well that makes sense, you flex them in many poses.
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I do it also......mainly because it helps psychologically,but abs are definately made in the kitchen for the most part.
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im no pro,,, but i never train them off season,,, and only ad them in pre contest, and when u can see them, its more of an insentive to work them
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well that makes sense, you flex them in many poses.
almost every pose. On top of that you've depleted and watched your liquid intake so you are prone to cramping, so your abs need to be tough
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dexter says he never works his abs
most pros these days take 2-3 months off a year to let their bodies recover from all the supps... during this period many of them do not train at all or do so half assed, is it any surprise that they are not training their abs?
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When you train your abs frequently (3+ times per week) it results in more fat being removed from that section (although it may only be just a little). This gives the abs more definition and helps get off every last bit of fat. Most people think this "spot reduction" is a myth, but it's not. In a recent issue of M&F there was a very good explanation of the theory and research that proved it to be truth.
But no matter how you train your abs, they won't show if you don't eat clean and intelligently.
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And Dexter doesn't train his abs directly but they get worked when he does moves like deadlifts and squats. I've heard of a lot of other people who train that way, although it can result in a thicker waist.
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When you train your abs frequently (3+ times per week) it results in more fat being removed from that section (although it may only be just a little).
spot reduction in the abdomen is only possible through chemical means (GH)
exercise will only strengthen the abs
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M&F? you know it's a comic book right? The only thing true about bb mags is that they are way too expensive
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i went to ibiza last month, arrived there 180 pounds got alcohol poisoning, as you do, internal bleeding and went down to 154 pounds in a week, couldnt eat for a further week, but................could i see my abs? could i fuck nothing.
I've come to the conclusion..... someone stole mine
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M&F? you know it's a comic book right? The only thing true about bb mags is that they are way too expensive
You also forgot to mention same articles with a different pro featured and 3/4 of it is all FUCKING ADS!!!!!!!
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To respond to WOOO, you CAN, in fact, reduce the fat on your abdominals by spot reduction. Just ask Serge Nubret, or maybe Irvin "Zabo" Koszewski, both of those famous bodybuilders trained abs for more than an hour at a time with little or no rest and had arguably the best abs you'll ever see. Sure, they used their pre-contest diets to really prefect their abs, but their ab training really worked.
And JACK CHEZE, if M&F is such a "comic book", shouldn't your joke of a physique be in there? :-X
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To respond to WOOO, you CAN, in fact, reduce the fat on your abdominals by spot reduction. Just ask Serge Nubret, or maybe Irvin "Zabo" Koszewski, both of those famous bodybuilders trained abs for more than an hour at a time with little or no rest and had arguably the best abs you'll ever see. Sure, they used their pre-contest diets to really prefect their abs, but their ab training really worked.
And JACK CHEZE, if M&F is such a "comic book", shouldn't your joke of a physique be in there? :-X
Take a guess at how many calories doing Abdominal work for 1 hour burns? Probalby enough to put a significant dent in your total caloric expenditure creating a defeceit and helping you drop serious bodyfat and therefore helping you see those abs better.
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Good point, Mike. The calories burned doing long circuits of ab training are probably just as good as doing cardio in a lot of cases.
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spot reduction in the abdomen is only possible through chemical means (GH)
exercise will only strengthen the abs
actually; recent studies indicate a that "spot reduction" actually does occur, in very small percentages, during weight training a certain region.
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thank you candidate2025 for actually doing your research :)
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actually; recent studies indicate a that "spot reduction" actually does occur, in very small percentages, during weight training a certain region.
"very small percentages"
you know, i can bench press a very small percentage of 1000000lbs... ;D
Here's an article:
http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives11ML3P1A2.html (http://www.truestarhealth.com/members/cm_archives11ML3P1A2.html)
Spot Reduction - Myth or Truth?
By Michael Carrera, MSc. and
Natasha Vani, MSc., ATCP
Spot reduction is simply the idea that if you work a specific muscle group you will decrease the amount of fat in that area. The most common example of this is people focus on abdominal exercises in an effort to lose weight in their stomach area.
In reality, there is no such thing as spot reduction. You will never attain a flat stomach just by performing abdominal exercises. The reason for this is simple: a muscle does not own the fat that surrounds it. Sit-ups, for example, will definitely strengthen your abdominal muscles, but sit-ups alone will not get rid of the layer of fat that is covering the muscles. To lose fat anywhere on your body you need to burn calories by following a program that involves both cardiovascular training and weight training. In doing so, you will decrease fat stores throughout your entire body, including the problem areas.
You may notice that you sometimes lose fat in some areas more quickly than in others; this is simply due to a genetic selective pattern rather than a particular type of exercise. It is a well known fact that men tend to gain weight in their abdominal region, whereas women tend to gain weight in their gluteal region. If fat was mobilized, or used from the stores near the exercising muscle, then you would expect both men and women to lose weight in the same areas when following a similar program. However, losing weight in the gluteal region is much more difficult for women than it is for men.
Another common myth is that muscle gained during a strength training program will turn to fat once you stop strength training. Again, muscle and fat are two different tissues which are completely independent of each other. If you stop weight training, your muscles will shrink because the stimulus to increase or maintain their size is no longer there; but by no means can they, or will they, turn into fat.
If you feel your body is becoming less toned or, for lack of a better word, more “soft” it is simply because your proportion of fat to muscle has changed. Fat, although you may not have gained any more of it, is now dominant simply because you have lost muscle. Another possible reason for the change is a common problem that exists with many people, primarily athletes. The problem is that they stop exercising, but maintain their eating habits, and thus slowly begin to put on weight. If you had been exercising but stopped, be sure to make dietary changes to compensate for the decrease in daily energy expenditure.
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okay, jackass...keep you mind closed.
i am tellilng you that recent studies indicate that spot reduction does infact happen, but only in very small amounts.
fat, in general, comes off all at once; not from one area. but spot reduction does occur....but almost to the extenet that it isnt noticeable. but oevr time, it will be slightly noticeable.
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okay, jackass...keep you mind closed.
i am tellilng you that recent studies indicate that spot reduction does infact happen, but only in very small amounts.
fat, in general, comes off all at once; not from one area. but spot reduction does occur....but almost to the extenet that it isnt noticeable. but oevr time, it will be slightly noticeable.
that's what i bolded.... did you bother reading before responding?
care to post some "studies"??
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that's what i bolded.... did you bother reading before responding?
care to post some "studies"??
no; what you "bolded" says that i some people fat comes off wquicker in certain areas as compared to other areas of theri bodies as a result of their genetic fat loss system slightly favoring one are to another.
but what im saying is that it has nothing to do with your genetics of fat loss and where it comes off; that training a mmuscle recruits fat from the area of that muscle to be bruned. in small amounts. regardless of your genetics.
it was in musular development..the fat loss section.
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it was in musular development..the fat loss section.
inside the muscletech add? ::)
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inside the muscletech add? ::)
okay; your a douchebag.
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okay; your a douchebag.
i think you mean "you're"
research?
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Resistance Training and Spot Reduction of fat
If someone tells you there is no such thing as spot reduction of fat, you can tell him or her evidence is not conclusive one way or another. A new study from the University of Connecticut murk’s up the issue a bit further.
The study examined under the skin fat measurements in 104 subjects (half men, half women) utilizing resistance training on one arm.
The results varied by gender and how fat was measured.
When measuring subcutaneous fat by skin fold, the men showed a clear decrease in fat on the resistance trained arm, the women also showed a decrease, but not as significant.
When measured by MRI, there was a generalized loss of fat, and spot reduction.
Further study will hopefully narrow down the issue.
What the study does show from skin fold measurements is that resistance training gives you skin tightness, either from fat loss or increased muscle volume.
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Oh yeah and by the way, WOOO, you are the easily the most narrow-minded person in this entire forum. Everyone in this forum spells like a 3rd grader, so don't be so picky about it because you make it obvious that you have nothing else to argue on this matter.
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Resistance Training and Spot Reduction of fat
If someone tells you there is no such thing as spot reduction of fat, you can tell him or her evidence is not conclusive one way or another. A new study from the University of Connecticut murk’s up the issue a bit further.
The study examined under the skin fat measurements in 104 subjects (half men, half women) utilizing resistance training on one arm.
The results varied by gender and how fat was measured.
When measuring subcutaneous fat by skin fold, the men showed a clear decrease in fat on the resistance trained arm, the women also showed a decrease, but not as significant.
When measured by MRI, there was a generalized loss of fat, and spot reduction.
Further study will hopefully narrow down the issue.
What the study does show from skin fold measurements is that resistance training gives you skin tightness, either from fat loss or increased muscle volume.
so the article itself says that it just murks things up. They resistance trained ONE arm and did the fat test on ONE arm.... you generally don't store much fat in your arms.
kind of a worthless article
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what would make you think that the skin and fat on your arms is any different from the skin and fat on your abdomen?
They're the same. Arms, legs, abdomen.... they all share the exact same kind of fat tissue.
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I've seen in DVDs etc... Pros say they usually work abs once a week, but during contest prep/diet they increase it to 3 times a week or more, what is the reason for this? Why do pros train their abs more often during a contest prep?
My guess is that a lot of pros get lazy with ab training in the off-season.
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what would make you think that the skin and fat on your arms is any different from the skin and fat on your abdomen?
They're the same. Arms, legs, abdomen.... they all share the exact same kind of fat tissue.
your arms move a lot more than your abdomen.... they are made to work. Also you abdomen is genetically engineered to store fat for lean times, your arms aren't..... if you have much measurable fat in your arms you don't exercise much
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M&F? you know it's a comic book right? The only thing true about bb mags is that they are way too expensive
MD had an article about it saying the same thing a few months back. Cant remember which month though.
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I've seen in DVDs etc... Pros say they usually work abs once a week, but during contest prep/diet they increase it to 3 times a week or more, what is the reason for this? Why do pros train their abs more often during a contest prep?
Lots of guys don't even bother doing any direct ab work.
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People make the huge mistake of thinking that you cannot spot reduce. Explain how fat guys have no fat around their biceps when they flex. The overall body fat % might not change, but working high volume on abs near contest DEFINITELY sharpens them up. It's not always about body fat %. Looking sharp is more complicated than that. High volume work on a muscle group tightens the skin, more efficiently disperses glucose, and a ton of other benefits. These guys weight train for ar living. They know a thing or two most people don't.