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He plans on introducing a resolution to remove term limits on his presidency. The measure will also severely limit the authority of elected governors and mayors.
The aim of the overhaul is “to guarantee to the people the largest amount of happiness possible,” according to his communications minister.
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it's called a dictatorship and with his views and opinions on everything that concerns us how could we be surprised ?
lot of oil down there so he's swingin a pretty heavy hammer
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Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy. ::)
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Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy. ::)
...but if he bought the military equipment from McDonnell Douglas or American manufacturers it would be ok tho?
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He's a nut.
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Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship. ::)
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Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship. ::)
I asked a simple question? the subtext in your post implied your major displeasure with the man had to do with his purchase of Russian military equipment. I was simply asking for a clarification of your views. Unlike you, I do not read a simple statement or cherry pick a fact, and create an entire backstory to it. Next, you'll be having me planning a wedding to the man. Take a valium. please & thank you.
ps: As a member of the US military, I think it behooves you to pay more attention to the trampling of human rights in America before you run off complaining about threats to America. America's enemies at home (on Capitol Hill and throughout the beltway) are more of an immediate threat to America than Chavez has ever been, ...and more possibly ever could be.
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Not so much from the Left as he takes more power......he's buying subs and Russian aircraft...yeah wonderful guy. ::)
Not so much what ??? I'm laughing my ass off at the setback this causes the elite globalist scumbags with some "ancient plan" to dominate the world. Will it stop them, no ::) I'm sure they'll have their little Ruler of the Galaxy dunce capcrown someday and you can be happy when all the world and beyond is forced to bow to their every desire as they reign in a 1000 years of tyranny freedom for all.
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Jag, um if he was an friend yeah. Instead he cavorts with enemies of the US. Especially Iran. Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship. ::)
It is never ok.
Regardless if he supports USA, Sweden or whatever.
If he is anti-democratic, and a dictator, he needs to go.
Anyone with true democratic values will realize this in the end, I hope.
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...but if he bought the military equipment from McDonnell Douglas or American manufacturers it would be ok tho?
I've yet to see you disown Chavez.
I seriously question your democratic values.
I seriously do.
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I seriously question your democratic values.
I question your intelligence with such remarks Hedge. How you haven't realised she has few democratic values before now is a travesty!
See this Hedge:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162288.msg2293265#msg2293265
Total lack of education and knowledge on her part, making moslems the victims EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT. My post is the last and is still awaiting her responce. Jag, could you oblige and respond?
People like Jag are very dangerous because they are very vocal and make victims out of the wrong people which hurts us all in the end.
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Holy shit... Not that you could tell from any media source because they all seem to be aligned against Chavez, but this is not remotely close to the truth. He's proposed ending term limits and wanted to have terms at 7 years and it looks like they're going with 6 years. He will be there indefinitely if the people want him there, if not then not... But the original post of this thread pretty much sums up the propaganda reported in 99.9 percent of the media... ::)
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But the original post of this thread pretty much sums up the propaganda reported in 99.9 percent of the media... ::)
Hey! I resemble that comment! >:(
I posted some other shit in that post, too. He not only proposed an end to term limits, he is attempting to institutionally hobble opposition and usurp and consolidate power from other government factions. It's obvious that Venezuela is edging towards a dictatorship.
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He will be there indefinitely if the people want him there, if not then not...
The Germans wanted Hitler.
Does your stupidity know no limits?
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The Germans wanted Hitler.
Does your stupidity know no limits?
::)
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Your sarcasm shows you're on a power trip from being a mod, you're a fucking dictator just like your hero Chavez.
Berserker loves Chavez, therefore loves Hitler
Simple algebra!
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Your sarcasm shows you're on a power trip from being a mod, you're a fucking dictator just like your hero Chavez.
Berserker loves Chavez, therefore loves Hitler
Simple algebra!
::) ::)<==Double Power Trip ;)
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JAG, I have yet to meet anybody who's rights have been "trampled" in this country. When it happens here, you get to to sue. I bet I'd fall over 50 people outside my hotel room in Chavez's socialist paradise that have issues with uncle Hugo. There u can't sue, I bet you get stuffed into a car and end up in a dump. I know full well what u ment by your post...take a vallium...me..your the Lib cut and paste queen. How can u defend Chavez, the guy is running down the road to dictatorship. I bet u have a Che shirt don't u...another wonderful guy.
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JAG, I have yet to meet anybody who's rights have been "trampled" in this country. When it happens here, you get to to sue. I bet I'd fall over 50 people outside my hotel room in Chavez's socialist paradise that have issues with uncle Hugo. There u can't sue, I bet you get stuffed into a car and end up in a dump. I know full well what u ment by your post...take a vallium...me..your the Lib cut and paste queen. How can u defend Chavez, the guy is running down the road to dictatorship. I bet u have a Che shirt don't u...another wonderful guy.
Did you just note that you've yet to "meet anybody" who's had their rights trampled on... ::) Are you saying there isn't any such cases or you haven't "met" anyone involved in such a case ::)
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Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.
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Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.
Do you have a valid reason Americans should not judge what's ok now based on what the next progression can be or what is possible within the current change? I mean because there's a pretty long goddamned tradition of doing this and for good reason. Change most often occurs in stages and I don't care what you say, there is every reason in the world to say, whoa bubba, I don't like what can be done with this or the possible next progression after things like the patriot act, homeland security, enemy combatants, torture, etc etc etc... It's our duty today to guide our country where our next generations will be born into. There is plenty to indicate alarm within our current direction. The only people who want you to focus on today are usually the people asking you not to look at tomorrow which is pretty fucked up. Why the hell would we not want to address these things when virturally every other intelligent decision in our lives require us to do exactly this.
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Let me clarify......NO...becaus e the cases are few and far between...U guys make it sound like their rounding people up and taking them away to some Alaskan Gulag.....gimme a break. Sure Uncle Sam has been a bit heavy handed...we're at war...relax. Oh wait..we're not at war..the US military is at war while the American people continue with their collective heads in ths sand....as u were.
Oh and who right there with your sand comment ::) If anything you can blame that on this president's insistance that the military bare the full brunt of the war not requireing any sacrice from the people. that's all these warmongers and we both know they've done this because even more people would wake up to what bullshit it is if they were required to sacrifice. So the ones who have their heads in the sand? Yea, Bush and team neocon not only wanted it that way, they would like more of it...
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While Bush and his team have not communicted the threat as effectively as they should..the media has picked up the slack. They did a poll in 2004 that mentioned the draft 14% were for it..thats the lowest in history, since 1917. Nobody cares....its not Bush/Repubs at war...its this country....and right or wrong they need to sacrifice.
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While Bush and his team have not communicated the threat as effectively as they should..the media has picked up the slack. They did a poll in 2004 that mentioned the draft 14% were for it..thats the lowest in history, since 1917. Nobody cares....its not Bush/Repubs at war...its this country....and right or wrong they need to sacrifice.
LOL, it's overwhelming been the dems calling for that sacrifice and the republicans almost completely against it ;) and that's a fact.
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Bullshit...ok maybe they have spoken that fact, but neither side means it. Not if they wanted to get elected. Hitler was marching though Europe in 1940 and FDR was reluctent to bring up the draft because elctions were coming up, he only did so because the Repubs thought it was a good idea as well. Nobody will dare give this serious thought. Nobody in power..because nobody cares...it a war over there.
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Holy shit... Not that you could tell from any media source because they all seem to be aligned against Chavez, but this is not remotely close to the truth. He's proposed ending term limits and wanted to have terms at 7 years and it looks like they're going with 6 years. He will be there indefinitely if the people want him there, if not then not... But the original post of this thread pretty much sums up the propaganda reported in 99.9 percent of the media... ::)
I think it's strange that you don't seem to react to the fact that Chavez wants to change the constitution in order to stay in power?
Numerous other laws have been passed to favor Chavez. No freedom of press, limited freedom of speech (you can be charged if you critisise the president). Does that seem like a democracy to you?
Not to mention his "Hola Presidente" show, and control of the big media outlets, feeding the public his propaganda.
Do I still support the nationalization of the natural resources? Of course! That has nothing to do with Chavez, and everything to do with the independence of a nation, having 100% control of its own resources, anything else is absurd.
But I'm not gonna support a wild man who is totalitarian, and a soon-to-be 100% dictator.
Your sarcasm shows you're on a power trip from being a mod, you're a fucking dictator just like your hero Chavez.
Berserker loves Chavez, therefore loves Hitler
Simple algebra!
IMO, Berserker is an excellent mod.
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Bullshit...ok maybe they have spoken that fact, but neither side means it. Not if they wanted to get elected. Hitler was marching though Europe in 1940 and FDR was reluctent to bring up the draft because elctions were coming up, he only did so because the Repubs thought it was a good idea as well. Nobody will dare give this serious thought. Nobody in power..because nobody cares...it a war over there.
That's actually not true, there are guys like Rangel who were talking draft and seriously, but I do not know of any republicans who have. Maybe now as there's been quite the flip-flopping on quite a bit now that Bush has fallen so far. The reason many dems have wanted the draft is simply because they believe the war continues on because no sacrifice is required. The war would fall when people were forced to address it in seriousness. Republicans led the agrument against the draft a few years back when guys like Rangel were putting forth the notion. All to many people are for the war, as long as it's not their son fighting it... That's just freaking bullshit. However, if sacrifice for America as the world police was indeed a worthy, true and a needed thing, America would step up and take the sacrifice, minus the traditional chickenhawks who get themselves put into the air national guard or other non-deployable situation. The current situation allows us to be in a war that the vast majority doesn't truely believe is needed. I happen to believe it's the biggest bullshit war of all time.
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I think it's strange that you don't seem to react to the fact that Chavez wants to change the constitution in order to stay in power?
Numerous other laws have been passed to favor Chavez. No freedom of press, limited freedom of speech (you can be charged if you critisise the president). Does that seem like a democracy to you?
Not to mention his "Hola Presidente" show, and control of the big media outlets, feeding the public his propaganda.
Do I still support the nationalization of the natural resources? Of course! That has nothing to do with Chavez, and everything to do with the independence of a nation, having 100% control of its own resources, anything else is absurd.
But I'm not gonna support a wild man who is totalitarian, and a soon-to-be 100% dictator.
IMO, Berserker is an excellent mod.
Thanks for the mod approval,
I don't think democracy is for everyone, clearly not going to work well in Iraq and Afghanistan a democracy? Now thats a real hoot... No, take a country with primarily hard labor working class where they've been relegated primarily as sweat shop workers for X globalist corp. They do not nor will not have democracy, they will have the ass end of the global corpatocracy forming while we have the better end if it can be called that. Clearly under these environments a socialist system can work for the people much better and it's important to remember that Chavez has so far garnered majority approval from the people. even with his proposed changes, ending term limits, that just means the people have an option to keep Chavez and the current direction of their country if that's what they want. I see nothing wrong with that. As far as the other elements, such as freedom of speech, I wonder if Chavez would do such a thing if a certain foreign superpower didn't spend so much time and energy subversively attempting to influence the internal politics of Venezuela.
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It is never ok.
Regardless if he supports USA, Sweden or whatever.
If he is anti-democratic, and a dictator, he needs to go.
Anyone with true democratic values will realize this in the end, I hope.
I suppose in true democratic fashion, you'd leave that decision up to the people of Venezuela to decide?
...or do you support a more 'imperialist' tactic or going in and deposing a legitimately elected head-of-state?
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I've yet to see you disown Chavez.
I seriously question your democratic values.
I seriously do.
How does one "disown" someone they never "owned" in the first place?
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JAG, I have yet to meet anybody who's rights have been "trampled" in this country. When it happens here, you get to to sue. I bet I'd fall over 50 people outside my hotel room in Chavez's socialist paradise that have issues with uncle Hugo. There u can't sue, I bet you get stuffed into a car and end up in a dump. I know full well what u ment by your post...take a vallium...me..your the Lib cut and paste queen. How can u defend Chavez, the guy is running down the road to dictatorship. I bet u have a Che shirt don't u...another wonderful guy.
I ever defended the man, I simply asked you a question in order to clarify your position. Like I said before:
"Unlike YOU, I don't cherry pick a fact, and run off to create a fictitious backstory behind it."
That MO is too neo-con for me. I'm sure your puppet masters would be proud of your continued usage of such a tactic tho.
As well, please understand the difference between 'your' and 'you're.
one is the 2nd person possessive, the other is a combination of the words 'you' and 'are'
How you got to be a major in the great US military without a basic rudimentary understanding of 3rd grade grammar is a mystery to me. :-*
...and no I don't own a Che shirt, ...but I do have a ZZ Top T-shirt. :)
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Amazing your backing a guy who's trampling on human rights and slipping further towards the usual latin american dictatorship. ::)
Why does this surprise you? The majority of Liberals support Chavez because he's anti-american.
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Why does this surprise you? The majority of Liberals support Chavez because he's anti-american.
To be exact, he is anti-neoliberal, anti-Bush, pro sovereignty and most definitely PRO-The People, even AMERICAN PEOPLE. :)
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actually I think there are only 3 or so people in all of the country saying nice things about Chavez so I don't think the gov has any worry of the revolution making it to America anytime soon :D
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IMO, Berserker is an excellent mod.
When did I say otherwise?
Lighten the fuck up liberal apologists, always protecting people who aren't a victim. I was JESTING, see: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jesting
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When did I say otherwise?
Lighten the fuck up liberal apologists, always protecting people who aren't a victim. I was JESTING, see: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jesting
Man, you're a very angry one... I think we got our usernames mixed up... Clearly you go more berserk than I, and I KNOW you're not exactly a nordic superman :D
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When did I say otherwise?
Lighten the fuck up liberal apologists, always protecting people who aren't a victim. I was JESTING, see: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/jesting
Liberal apologist?
You really know how to piss me off. ;D
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Man, you're a very angry one... I think we got our usernames mixed up... Clearly you go more berserk than I, and I KNOW you're not exactly a nordic superman :D
I'm placcid as can be cowgirl!
Liberal apologist?
You really know how to piss me off. ;D
Oh boy, I hope I don't piss you off too much, otherwise you might start apologising somemore, and I don't think I can take anymore!
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I'm placcid as can be cowgirl!
I have a pretty good idea what you really mean...
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I'm flaccid
There, ...I fixed it for you. :)
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There, ...I fixed it for you. :)
YOU DID?!? :o
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I ever defended the man, I simply asked you a question in order to clarify your position. Like I said before:
"Unlike YOU, I don't cherry pick a fact, and run off to create a fictitious backstory behind it."
That MO is too neo-con for me. I'm sure your puppet masters would be proud of your continued usage of such a tactic tho.
As well, please understand the difference between 'your' and 'you're.
one is the 2nd person possessive, the other is a combination of the words 'you' and 'are'
How you got to be a major in the great US military without a basic rudimentary understanding of 3rd grade grammar is a mystery to me. :-*
...and no I don't own a Che shirt, ...but I do have a ZZ Top T-shirt. :)
Hey Jag if we want to play the grammer game YOU ARE in a world of trouble. I do my best to make sure my shit is spelled right and I use the right words, but I'm also working and typing as fast as possible..so no more lectures from the wicked witch from the north please......u defend evert lib cause out there.
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Hey Jag if we want to play the grammer game YOU ARE in a world of trouble. I do my best to make sure my shit is spelled right and I use the right words, but I'm also working and typing as fast as possible..so no more lectures from the wicked witch from the north please......u defend evert lib cause out there.
Oh, ...sooooo close, ...but no cigar. ;D But do try again next time. :-*
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Oh, ...sooooo close, ...but no cigar. ;D But do try again next time. :-*
::) Jag,... stop, please stop... nobody gives a shit unless someone's spelling is really fucked bad.
Headhunter wins this one on default and Jag classically shoots herself in the foot mid fight.
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::) Jag,... stop, please stop... nobody gives a shit unless someone's spelling is really fucked bad.
Headhunter wins this one on default and Jag classically shoots herself in the foot mid fight.
She's a lying coward. She taps out of any debate when she is cornered.
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She's a lying coward. She taps out of any debate when she is cornered.
That's not true. She just has a special way of hitting nerves.
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That's not true. She just has a special way of hitting nerves.
False, she is a lying coward.
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False, she is a lying coward.
calling her a coward, what, you want to fight her ::)
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calling her a coward, what, you want to fight her ::)
Do you want me to define a coward?
She ignores comments critical of her views and assumptions on many topics which I have entertained in the past.
That comrade, is cowardice.
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Do you want me to define a coward?
She ignores comments critical of her views and assumptions on many topics which I have entertained in the past.
That comrade, is cowardice.
What I ignore are assumptions about my views that are simply incorrect.
What audacity to tell a person what they think, based on a simple question!
The problem is so many of you have so much pavlovian garbage in your heads that you automatically create an entire backstory and presume to know someones views and opinions when they haven't been stated.
Calm down, take a valium if you have to and reread the posts. The only one jumping to conclusions is HH,
...I simply asked for clarification of his views, ...and he goes berserk (sorry berserker) throwing out accusations.
ps - my definition of cowardice is trying to gang up and gang rape someone. That is cowardice. Hi Nordic :)
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Do you want me to define a coward?
She ignores comments critical of her views and assumptions on many topics which I have entertained in the past.
That comrade, is cowardice.
I am forced for the first time to bow out. I never thought I would be saying this to nordic superman... You're right! I'm wrong...
Thanks Jag >:(
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That's not true. She just has a special way of hitting nerves.
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/angel2.gif)
Who?? moi??
Whatever are you talking about?
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I am forced for the first time to bow out. I never thought I would be saying this to nordic superman... You're right! I'm wrong...
Thanks Jag >:(
No, ...you're right. He's wrong.
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For the first time ever I find the POLITICAL Board funny ;D
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No, ...you're right. He's wrong.
False
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Nordic is gay.
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Nordic is gay.
Not as gay as your dad or as gay as your sons will turn out to be!
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Not as gay as your dad or as gay as your sons will turn out to be!
Nuh-uh, ...CJ's sons will never be gay. He's gonna shower with them and pound pegs into round holes. :D
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For the first time ever I find the POLITICAL Board funny ;D
;D
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Nuh-uh, ...CJ's sons will never be gay. He's gonna shower with them and pound pegs into round holes. :D
Don't go insulting BeachBum's prefered method now. :D
Not as gay as your dad or as gay as your sons will turn out to be!
Lame.. You're usually witty, maybe you're under the weather today?