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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kyomu on August 22, 2007, 09:41:16 AM
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Milos thinks so.
Discuss.
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insulin work alone...ya... all give ya NATURAL....insulin with igf1& gf.....NOT SO NATURAL....insulin with cjc1295,ghrp-6 or sermorelin which just increase your bodies abiltiy to naturally produce more gh on its own...NATURAL
oh ok... so thats what it is ::)
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We will meet in S.Susana.
We dont do test but he dared to say that he could pass the test because he is doing sulin only.
The thing is not who pass the test or not. The thing is that he is natural or not.
Thats why i create this thread.
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Milos thinks so.
Discuss.
Milos think so?
Milos said he would take a doping test (with you Fatso) and pass the test...
At the same time I would in advance tell you that I do take INSULIN (occasionally....OK - very occasionally) - but IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW - there is no test for insulin at this time (even though WADA wants some people to believe otherwise)...
You see the difference?
I thought you were only fat, ugly and muscleless...I didn't know that you are stupid as well...
I guess - that's the bonus plan that comes with "Kyomu package"...
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Milos think so?
Milos said he would take a doping test (with you Fatso) and pass the test...
At the same time I would in advance tell you that I do take INSULIN (occasionally....OK - very occasionally) - but IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW - there is no test for insulin at this time (even though WADA wants some people to believe otherwise)...
You see the difference?
I thought you were only fat, ugly and muscleless...I didn't know that you are stupid as well...
I guess - that's the bonus plan that comes with "Kyomu package"...
hahahahhahahaha, milos, laying the smack down.
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insulin work alone...ya... all give ya NATURAL....insulin with IGF1& GH.....NOT NATURAL....insulin with cjc1295,ghrp-6 or sermorelin which just increase your bodies abiltiy to naturally produce more gh on its own...NATURAL......INSUL IN not being natural is like saying that consuming carbs from a synthetic source isint..or that being on a high dextrose diet is unatural...as long as your just controlling your body,and making your body produce more of something it already has, why wouldent it be natural... notice i say making your body produce more, or controllying what your body produces...not just adding more from a synthetic source like testosterone..thus why anabolics are unnatural
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Wow, Mishko administering a brutal owning!
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Milos think so?
Milos said he would take a doping test (with you Fatso) and pass the test...
At the same time I would in advance tell you that I do take INSULIN (occasionally....OK - very occasionally) - but IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW - there is no test for insulin at this time (even though WADA wants some people to believe otherwise)...
You see the difference?
I thought you were only fat, ugly and muscleless...I didn't know that you are stupid as well...
I guess - that's the bonus plan that comes with "Kyomu package"...
Then Thanx Mr crazy doctor for informing that Insulin test should be included.
And if you tell me that you use it in advance. Why you tryed to oppose against me as a natural bber?
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insulin work alone...ya... all give ya NATURAL....insulin with IGF1& GH.....NOT NATURAL....insulin with cjc1295,ghrp-6 or sermorelin which just increase your bodies abiltiy to naturally produce more gh on its own...NATURAL......INSUL IN not being natural is like saying that consuming carbs from a synthetic source isint..or that being on a high dextrose diet is unatural...as long as your just controlling your body,and making your body produce more of something it already has, why wouldent it be natural... notice i say making your body produce more, or controllying what your body produces...not just adding more from a synthetic source like testosterone..thus why anabolics are unnatural
Wow, relax tiger.....gather your thoughts and type slowly, that will promote coherent posting ;)
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Most people will disagree, but I would consider anyone not taking AAS to be somewhat natural.
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True ,I will make my body produce 3000 mg test and still be natural, after all, my body just has more of what it already had. Fucktard ::)
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A lot of "naturals" on the board here consider insuline/hgh/igf/small amounts of a.s. as natural.
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milos, i hope you win a great big trophy........before your kidney and pancrease transplant. ::)
Excellent post ::)
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milos, i hope you win a great big trophy........before your kidney and pancrease transplant. ::)
Proof? Some evidence?
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a.s.'s regardless of amount,make you clearly unnatural.as well as the usage of gh and igf1, in my opnion any of these make you unnatural.......BUT THE USAGE OF INSULIN ALONE,AND JUST INSULIN IS PERFECTLY NATURAL AS WELL AS THE USAGE OF HEXARELIN, GHRP6,CJC-1295,SERMORELIN AND OTHER PEPTIDES(except for gh and igf1)
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those around mike lockett believe he uses insulin like crazy. the guy always has a twizzler in his mouth. (great for the response). And he claims to be natural, which in his own eyes, he is.
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I thought you were only fat, ugly and muscleless...
And you have real muscles?
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As natural as Lyle Alzado
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those around mike lockett believe he uses insulin like crazy. the guy always has a twizzler in his mouth. (great for the response). And he claims to be natural, which in his own eyes, he is.
Yes even precontest ::)
That guy is bad for the sport, either shut up or tell the truth.
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Milos think so?
Milos said he would take a doping test (with you Fatso) and pass the test...
At the same time I would in advance tell you that I do take INSULIN (occasionally....OK - very occasionally) - but IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW - there is no test for insulin at this time (even though WADA wants some people to believe otherwise)...
You see the difference?
I thought you were only fat, ugly and muscleless...I didn't know that you are stupid as well...
I guess - that's the bonus plan that comes with "Kyomu package"...
HAHAHAHA!!!!!! KYOMUWNED!
FUCKING MUSCLE WORSHIPPER!
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Milos thinks so.
Discuss.
yes,,a bodybuilder using insulin which is basically all the ones who have distinguished thick swole look to their muscles in your local ymca in usa,,very similar to bloat rubber dolls,,is considered 'natural' among other lifters because so many use it that the only way to know who it is to be me or milos or someone who actually work and think 24/7 bodybuilding and its products/effects
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a.s.'s regardless of amount,make you clearly unnatural.as well as the usage of gh and igf1, in my opnion any of these make you unnatural.......BUT THE USAGE OF INSULIN ALONE,AND JUST INSULIN IS PERFECTLY NATURAL AS WELL AS THE USAGE OF HEXARELIN, GHRP6,CJC-1295,SERMORELIN AND OTHER PEPTIDES(except for gh and igf1)
That's one messed up argument. What's different between adding GH and taking insulin? Insulin is released by eating, GH is released by NOT eating. Both are endogenous hormones that can be manipulated by diet (as well as other factors).
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Its refreshing to see Milos drop the polite professional nice guy bit and do some real flaming. He is a new man and seems to be enjoying it.
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You can't test positive for insulin, so technically you would be natural as nothing can be tested. There are actually alot of guys and LE that use Only insulin because it is legal and won't show up on drug tests. Bigger than alot of Guys on some extreme amounts of AAS.
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You can't test positive for insulin, so technically you would be natural as nothing can be tested. There are actually alot of guys and LE that use Only insulin because it is legal and won't show up on drug tests. Bigger than alot of Guys on some extreme amounts of AAS.
So insulin is some serious shit? Is it why the dudes these days are so much bigger than the 80's bb'ers?
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Yes without a doubt, people dabbled with it back in the late 80's and 90, But Milos seemed to have perfected dosing it. You can get big and lean at the same time. Throw in some Igf1 and just 500 mgs a week of test, those gains will rival 1500mgs of test a week and 50mgs of Dbol a day. Plus you'll keep more weight because you aren't gaining as much water weight.
Using insulin freaks me out though.....You have to be a dedicated person or it's lights out. Literally.
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milos, i hope you win a great big trophy........before your kidney and pancrease transplant. ::)
Hahahahahahahaha!But I dont think so. This carzy doctor know how to deal with roids and slin.
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Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on August 22, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
I put this in the 17 page thread, but no response. It may be more suitable here. So is it(slin) used prior to workout or just the standard protocol of immediately after workout? With all the carbs coming in before, during and after, it seems that you would use it before the workout, just a much smaller dose than normal, due to its heightened effects during a work out, humulog being the brand of choice. It would seem it would be able to perform its job even better in conjunction with the giant sets utilizing it for however the workout lasts, versus only administering after the workout. Comments Milos?
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whats the chances of a bodybuilder only using insulin??? and stricly insulin only anyway??..extrmely rare in my book..hard to do if your dont have a good team of docs ready to help out(that is to do it absoultley perfect anyway)....
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Most "naturals" use it along with test. prop/suspension and other short esterfied drugs. Very effective and undetectable.
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Yes without a doubt, people dabbled with it back in the late 80's and 90, But Milos seemed to have perfected dosing it. You can get big and lean at the same time. Throw in some Igf1 and just 500 mgs a week of test, those gains will rival 1500mgs of test a week and 50mgs of Dbol a day. Plus you'll keep more weight because you aren't gaining as much water weight.
Using insulin freaks me out though.....You have to be a dedicated person or it's lights out. Literally.
Just think twice before injecting it, and keep your fast carbs by your side. Millions of people do it everyday.
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Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on August 22, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...
I put this in the 17 page thread, but no response. It may be more suitable here. So is it(slin) used prior to workout or just the standard protocol of immediately after workout? With all the carbs coming in before, during and after, it seems that you would use it before the workout, just a much smaller dose than normal, due to its heightened effects during a work out, humulog being the brand of choice. It would seem it would be able to perform its job even better in conjunction with the giant sets utilizing it for however the workout lasts, versus only administering after the workout. Comments Milos?
I doubt Milos will answer this.
Insulin is a bit riskier pre-workout since very intense training can drop the blood glucose suddenly in conjunction with the insulin. Not to mention make you look like a fool if you collapse in the middle of the gym and they call the ambulance.
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These are the standard steroid risks. Enough to make you run. Toss in the highly unpredictable nature of Insulin - you'd have to be crazy to run it.
1) Increased Liver Function.
2) Depression of Natural Testosterone Production.
3) Increase in Cholesterol Levels and Blood Pressure (Not conductive to good cardiovascular health).
4) Altered Thyroid Function.
5) Headeches.
6) Nose bleeds.
7) Cramps.
8) Development of breastlike tissue in men (Gynecomastia).
9) Insulin Insensitivity (Even though Deca Durabolin improves the insulin metabolism).
10) Androgenic Side effects such as thinning hair, enlarged prostate, oily skin, water retention, increased body hair, aggressiveness.
11) Stunted growth if you are a teenager.
12) Oral Steroid specific side effects: In addition to the above, the orals also tend to cause nausea, diarrhea, constipation, and vomiting.
13) May accelerate the growth of tumors.
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/myths-and-dangers-of-anabolic-steroid.html
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These are the standard steroid risks. Enough to make you run. Toss in the highly unpredictable nature of Insulin - you'd have to be crazy to run it.
1) Increased Liver Function.
2) Depression of Natural Testosterone Production.
3) Increase in Cholesterol Levels and Blood Pressure (Not conductive to good cardiovascular health).
4) Altered Thyroid Function.
5) Headeches.
6) Nose bleeds.
7) Cramps.
8) Development of breastlike tissue in men (Gynecomastia).
9) Insulin Insensitivity (Even though Deca Durabolin improves the insulin metabolism).
10) Androgenic Side effects such as thinning hair, enlarged prostate, oily skin, water retention, increased body hair, aggressiveness.
11) Stunted growth if you are a teenager.
12) Oral Steroid specific side effects: In addition to the above, the orals also tend to cause nausea, diarrhea, constipation, and vomiting.
13) May accelerate the growth of tumors.
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/myths-and-dangers-of-anabolic-steroid.html
Depends on your genetics, usage and dosages. None of it can be dangerous when using them right.
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aside from if its considered natural or not....whats everyones thoughts on the effects and usage on insulin?????