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Title: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 26, 2007, 04:38:22 PM
Do you seriously drive a ferrari? If so that's pimp, pics please. Oh and read my response on the other thread about jay symetry etc.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: cswol on August 26, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
he has a convertible white toyota solara
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: SS on August 26, 2007, 06:33:11 PM
he has a convertible white toyota solara
With a pair of Jays soiled trunks hanging from his mirror.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: cswol on August 26, 2007, 06:57:02 PM
nah I dont think so, jay could sell those to his fans for $600.00, that would be cutting into jay's profits.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: 240 is Back on August 26, 2007, 07:05:27 PM
nah I dont think so, jay could sell those to his fans for $600.00, that would be cutting into jay's profits.

Jay would get over $1000 per pair, easily.  Medium pros get 700+ per pair on ebay.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 26, 2007, 07:28:38 PM
Do you seriously drive a ferrari? If so that's pimp, pics please. Oh and read my response on the other thread about jay symetry etc.

I did read it, thanks for that, it was a good post, there are so good people here for sure.
And no, no underwear thank you.

Are you talking about this Ferrari?

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0915_wm.jpg)

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0913_wm.jpg)

Hey!  Tanya, get off from my car!  LOL!!

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0908_wm.jpg)
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: musclecenter on August 27, 2007, 12:35:11 AM
I did read it, thanks for that, it was a good post, there are so good people here for sure.
And no, no underwear thank you.

Are you talking about this Ferrari?


Hey!  Tanya, get off from my car!  LOL!!


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=164884.25 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=164884.25)
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: garraeth on August 27, 2007, 01:17:27 AM

Hey!  Tanya, get off from my car!  LOL!!

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0908_wm.jpg)
Hey it's Tanya!  ;D

She's on the i-n-t-er-n-e-t!

Who are you Madmax? Do I know you?
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: tommywishbone on August 27, 2007, 01:21:26 AM
WTF!! Is the gym at 1101 or is it at 1107?  >:( WTF?

PS. That guy's parked in a Red Zone. I'm calling the Fuzz.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: garraeth on August 27, 2007, 01:23:30 AM
WTF!! Is the gym at 1101 or is it at 1107?  >:( WTF?
lol, man don't ever come to the gym or you'll be standing outside forever trying to figure it out -- Tanya won't come out to help you until her lunch break.  >:(
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: BIG ACH on August 27, 2007, 01:52:39 AM

Damn,thats fucking hot!!!
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: davidpaul on August 27, 2007, 04:11:30 AM
Looks like a nice gym.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: nycbull on August 27, 2007, 07:06:03 AM
Hey MadMax, which smell do you prefer on Jay when he gets in your car, the all clean perfumy just got out of the shower smell or his more manly sweaty musky scent after he works out?
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 27, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
I did read it, thanks for that, it was a good post, there are so good people here for sure.
And no, no underwear thank you.

Are you talking about this Ferrari?

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0915_wm.jpg)

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0913_wm.jpg)

Hey!  Tanya, get off from my car!  LOL!!

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/100_0908_wm.jpg)

Yes that one damn  :o
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Option D on August 27, 2007, 12:37:52 PM
that fuckin car is awesome
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 27, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
Dave,

Car looks great. Thanks for taking the pics.

I dont think I have even driven the car since I took it to the gym that day.

D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 27, 2007, 07:19:58 PM
Let me drive it then!!!!!  LOL!
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: chaos on August 27, 2007, 07:22:04 PM
Hey it's Tanya!  ;D

She's on the i-n-t-er-n-e-t!

Who are you Madmax? Do I know you?
You probably have seen him garraeth, he's there alot. ;)
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Bast000 on August 27, 2007, 07:28:40 PM
the wheels and rear lights ruin that Ferrari, too much black.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: SirTraps on August 27, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
Quote
With a pair of Jays soiled trunks hanging from his mirror.

      hahahaha  ;D

         Nice vanity plates : "SUPER SCHMOE"
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 27, 2007, 09:53:29 PM
Damn ... nice Car !
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: pumpher on August 27, 2007, 10:04:15 PM
Nice ride Madmax! I take it business is good :)
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: MattT on August 28, 2007, 12:13:43 AM
Nice ride Madmax! I take it business is good :)

Well he sold his biz to Jay, so he must have used that cash to buy the new ride, cars are the worst investment though, max you should have bought some real estate.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: KevinP85 on August 28, 2007, 01:07:49 AM
Well he sold his biz to Jay, so he must have used that cash to buy the new ride, cars are the worst investment though, max you should have bought some real estate.


Like in Dubai, India ;D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: davidpaul on August 28, 2007, 03:41:41 AM
Well he sold his biz to Jay, so he must have used that cash to buy the new ride, cars are the worst investment though, max you should have bought some real estate.

hahahaha ok "Mr Trump".  ::)
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: BIG ACH on August 28, 2007, 03:46:12 AM
Well he sold his biz to Jay, so he must have used that cash to buy the new ride, cars are the worst investment though, max you should have bought some real estate.

Business wise, yes cars are an awful investment.

But I don't think Max bought the car as a business move, its a fucking Ferrari!!!

Also, I read somewhere that the value of a ferrari actually goes up once purchased, because the normal waiting time is 1 year + for one of those babies, if someone bought it and comes to sell it, the new purchaser can get it right away without having to wait.

Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on August 28, 2007, 09:45:00 PM
here's a hint, it's not his car ::)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 28, 2007, 10:09:34 PM
lol!!  You guys have a wild imagination. I really like all your comments and advice.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on August 28, 2007, 10:11:29 PM
lol!!  You guys have a wild imagination. I really like all your comments and advice.
here's some advice I heard, try "front squats in the smith machine" ;)

isn't that a different Dave's Ferrari?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: jwb on August 28, 2007, 10:14:02 PM
what is it with amercians and the kind of car they drive being so important?

80% of you brainiacs lease these cars anyway... ie. you don't own them!
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 28, 2007, 10:16:04 PM
here's some advice I heard, try "front squats in the smith machine" ;)

isn't that a different Dave's Ferrari?

Hey!  How are you?  I did not know you were here.  Cool!  Not my words but the Champ's.  LOL!!!
Yes, the car belong to my buddy Dave, he is/was my training partner.  Great guy!
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 28, 2007, 10:20:00 PM
Hey!  How are you?  I did not know you were here.  Cool!  Not my words but the Champ's.  LOL!!!
Yes, the car belong to my buddy Dave, he is/was my training partner.  Great guy!

We just got the newest max magazine in my store, with jay on the cover and I like it a lot, especially your articles. I apologize for talking shit to you in the past, you're a cool dude.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: gordiano on August 28, 2007, 10:22:58 PM
what is it with amercians and the kind of car they drive being so important?

80% of you brainiacs lease these cars anyway... ie. you don't own them!

Because, this is the land of apperances.


You should see people, they drive "big" cars, live in "big" houses.....usually stuff they can't afford in the first place, but hey, it looks good.  ::)

EDIT: You know, Flex Wheeler mentality....
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 28, 2007, 10:33:20 PM
We just got the newest max magazine in my store, with jay on the cover and I like it a lot, especially your articles. I apologize for talking shit to you in the past, you're a cool dude.

No worries my friend.  Glad you like the mag.
D.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on August 28, 2007, 10:39:53 PM
Hey!  How are you?  I did not know you were here.  Cool!  Not my words but the Champ's.  LOL!!!
Yes, the car belong to my buddy Dave, he is/was my training partner.  Great guy!
I'm good, hell of a leg day today, everytime I sit down, I struggle to get up ;D

Is Dave the guy I see you train with sometimes?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 28, 2007, 10:41:44 PM
Yes, him and Phil.
Good on ya for legs.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: SteelePegasus on August 28, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
Yes, him and Phil.
Good on ya for legs.

how much did you sell your business for and what was the nature of the business?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 28, 2007, 10:47:55 PM
I never sold anything, we still own the store together.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: KillerMonk on August 28, 2007, 11:08:20 PM
Id prefer a Suzuki 2008 Hyabusa GSXR1300 it would tear that Ferrari a new one on quarter mile. ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Alex23 on August 30, 2007, 08:27:08 PM
lol!!  You guys have a wild imagination. I really like all your comments and advice.

Dave is what they refer to in his country of origin as "Plein de marde" ;D

Hi Dave.


(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/alexgauthier23/_small2.jpg)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 30, 2007, 09:17:13 PM
Nice.   ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Alex23 on August 30, 2007, 09:23:40 PM
Nice.   ;D

Just kdding bro. I'll drop by this weekend.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 30, 2007, 09:30:49 PM
I'll be there Sunday.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: The Freakshow on August 30, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
WTF!! Is the gym at 1101 or is it at 1107?  >:( WTF?


Dude, that was FUNNY!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: OneManGang on August 31, 2007, 01:31:06 AM
Ferraris should be red only. Painting that stripe on it looks totally gay.

That, my friends, is a gay man's Ferrari.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 31, 2007, 05:16:01 AM
Ferraris should be red only. Painting that stripe on it looks totally gay.

That, my friends, is a gay man's Ferrari.

Shit I better tell my wife I am gay then. I also have to call Ferrari and tell them to stop painting the strips on the cars.

Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Andre Nickatina on August 31, 2007, 05:25:59 AM
Shit I better tell my wife I am gay then. I also have to call Ferrari and tell them to stop painting the strips on the cars.




You should.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Bluto on August 31, 2007, 05:42:11 AM
white strip in the middle looks awful

Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 06:22:20 AM
Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.

Business wise, yes cars are an awful investment.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Beefjake on August 31, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
I tought it was this...

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/interceptor/history1.html

Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: corinth on August 31, 2007, 11:41:10 AM
Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.



Nice car.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: onlyme on August 31, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
Business wise, yes cars are an awful investment.

But I don't think Max bought the car as a business move, its a fucking Ferrari!!!

Also, I read somewhere that the value of a ferrari actually goes up once purchased, because the normal waiting time is 1 year + for one of those babies, if someone bought it and comes to sell it, the new purchaser can get it right away without having to wait.



I know many people who would disagree with you.  In the long run most cars are bad investments since they depreciate as soon as you start them.  But, buying speciality, exotic or collectibles can be very lucrative.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  This car can have a market value of 10 bucks at the end of the financing term and it still will have made me a positive cashflow each month plus 25,000 cash at the end of the term.

The creative financing that I used has alot to do with it.  If you have a good credit score and a brain, you can finance just about any car so that it pays for itself.

I know many people who would disagree with you.  In the long run most cars are bad investments since they depreciate as soon as you start them.  But, buying speciality, exotic or collectibles can be very lucrative.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: onlyme on August 31, 2007, 01:03:09 PM
Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  This car can have a market value of 10 bucks at the end of the financing term and it still will have made me a positive cashflow each month plus 25,000 cash at the end of the term.

The creative financing that I used has alot to do with it.  If you have a good credit score and a brain, you can finance just about any car so that it pays for itself.


Don't hate me, hate Sean ;D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 01:05:14 PM
Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  This car can have a market value of 10 bucks at the end of the financing term and it still will have made me a positive cashflow each month plus 25,000 cash at the end of the term.

The creative financing that I used has alot to do with it.  If you have a good credit score and a brain, you can finance just about any car so that it pays for itself.


wow!!! ever think of starting a hedge fund? I'm sure people are falling over themselves to have you manage their money.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Croatch on August 31, 2007, 01:13:07 PM
Quote
Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  This car can have a market value of 10 bucks at the end of the financing term and it still will have made me a positive cashflow each month plus 25,000 cash at the end of the term.

The creative financing that I used has alot to do with it.  If you have a good credit score and a brain, you can finance just about any car so that it pays for itself.
Yeah, with my secret "3 Point Plan!", you too can have a Ferrari and pay nothing!!  Just send $49.95 now!
hahah, Ok buddy.  Getbig.com, gotta love it.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on August 31, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
Yeah, with my secret "3 Point Plan!", you too can have a Ferrari and pay nothing!!  Just send $49.95 now!
hahah, Ok buddy.  Getbig.com, gotta love it.

Cut me in!  I alway wondered why everyone doesn't drive a Ferrari for free.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 01:20:08 PM
I don't take money from ignorant idiots such as yourself.

Stick with the "supposed" 8-10% you are making in your stock and mutual fund portfolio.  Keeping your money with Fidelity, JP Morgan, Meryl lynch, etc.  makes them VERY Happy.


aw, you hurt my feelings there, brainiac.













learn how to spell Merrill Lynch before you start pretending to be a whiz kid on the internet.  ::)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
I never said I was anything, I stated what I did and what is possible.

I will sleep just the same whether or not you believe me.

and great job of "owning" me with the spelling error.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 31, 2007, 01:55:42 PM
white strip in the middle looks awful



Yes thanks for the expert advice on the stripe. Good to hear losers like yourself with expert Ferrari advice.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 01:57:38 PM
Yes thanks for the expert advice on the strip. Good to hear losers like yourself with expert Ferrari advice.

you're very bitter for someone who owns a ferrari in s. california.  why?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 31, 2007, 02:13:20 PM
you're very bitter for someone who owns a ferrari in s. california.  why?

I live a great life. Not bitter at all.

Just love how broke people, that will never afford to drive a Ferrari tell me how Gay the car is with a stripe. Also the only Ferrari that looks good is a Red one. I think Ferrari put some time into what they do. If they offer a stripe then I dont think that is gay.

Instead of just saying Nice car or no commnert. That always have to say negative stuff. Lets see where most of the people live, drive, look like, etc.. that always have these negative post. I am in no way wanting to come across better then anyone. But I dont sit there any say negative crap all day long.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: powerforward on August 31, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
Then why not drive something better than a cayman?
If the car pays for itself- why settle for something entry-level?


Btw, nice Ferrari- stripe and all!!


 

Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.

Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Tre on August 31, 2007, 02:51:07 PM
Depreciation has nothing to do with it.  This car can have a market value of 10 bucks at the end of the financing term and it still will have made me a positive cashflow each month plus 25,000 cash at the end of the term.

The creative financing that I used has alot to do with it.  If you have a good credit score and a brain, you can finance just about any car so that it pays for itself.

Maybe you could write a book or do seminars and stuff on how to do this...then that little bastard would *really* pay for itself!
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Tre on August 31, 2007, 02:52:18 PM
Good to hear losers like yourself with expert Ferrari advice.

LOL @ EFA!
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Tre on August 31, 2007, 02:53:43 PM
I live a great life. Not bitter at all.

Just love how broke people, that will never afford to drive a Ferrari tell me how Gay the car is with a stripe. Also the only Ferrari that looks good is a Red one. I think Ferrari put some time into what they do. If they offer a stripe then I dont think that is gay.

Instead of just saying Nice car or no commnert. That always have to say negative stuff. Lets see where most of the people live, drive, look like, etc.. that always have these negative post. I am in no way wanting to come across better then anyone. But I dont sit there any say negative crap all day long.
Are you defined by your money or is your money defined by you?

Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 02:53:47 PM
Business wise, yes cars are an awful investment.

But I don't think Max bought the car as a business move, its a fucking Ferrari!!!

Also, I read somewhere that the value of a ferrari actually goes up once purchased, because the normal waiting time is 1 year + for one of those babies, if someone bought it and comes to sell it, the new purchaser can get it right away without having to wait.



Depending on the model they do go way over list when first released , see the F-40 when first released if I recall the list was around $400 K they were going for as much as $750 K on the ' gray market ' Nigel Mansell was one of the first people to get an F-40 ( he used to race for Ferrari ) and turned right around and sold his for a cool million , much to Ferrari's shargrin a few years later they were below the original list

And thats why Ferrari only sold the F-50 as a two year lease and would ONLY do so if you were on their preferred customer list and did NOT turn your F-40 over for a profit , after the lease was over prices went up peaked and then came back down to earth

The same is holding true with the latest model the 599 GTB Fiorano just releases people have been selling of their 360s and 430s for the latest prancing horse , the list price is about $320 K and the least I've seen one for sale is $499 K and as much as $579 K ! so one can turn a new Ferrari around for a profit if the timing is right and if you can get one ( thats the key )

The model he has his an F430 spyder nice car you can get one for a good price the chance to make any money on this model has passed but its obviously not an investment its a reward for doing well in life ! I love the stripe ( not many have these ) and I love the wheels its a personal touch that separates his from everyone else , beautiful guy .
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 02:53:57 PM
Well he sold his biz to Jay, so he must have used that cash to buy the new ride, cars are the worst investment though, max you should have bought some real estate.
yes, phil spectors pad is on the market soon
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Alex23 on August 31, 2007, 02:54:07 PM
Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.



Hahahahahaha... sure you are Mr "Tycooon"....

Don't assume everybody is an idiot on here...
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 02:58:06 PM
Then why not drive something better than a cayman?
If the car pays for itself- why settle for something entry-level?


Btw, nice Ferrari- stripe and all!!


 


Cayman is a bad ass ride , if thats settling sign me up quick !!
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Tre on August 31, 2007, 03:01:56 PM
The same is holding true with the latest model the 599 GTB Fiorano just releases people have been selling of their 360s and 430s for the latest prancing horse , the list price is about $320 K and the least I've seen one for sale is $499 K and as much as $579 K ! so one can turn a new Ferrari around for a profit if the timing is right and if you can get one ( thats the key )

Unless someone is a millionaire several times over, why on earth would he spend that kind of money on a car?  

Was it Lance Briggs who just wrecked a $350,000 auto?  I don't know his financial situation, but I seriously doubt he paid cash for it...and I feel confident in saying he probably doesn't have $20 million sitting *in* his various accounts.

Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 03:06:57 PM

there's nothing wrong with enjoying life . . . you can't take money w you when you go, and you're only young once.












i should get an award for responding w 3 tried but true cliches.  ;D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 03:10:15 PM
Because you have to be able to get a certain type of financing.  The lender I used would go no higher than 100k for a car loan.  To do the deal on the Cayman required 90k. 

I wanted to use as much of the 100k that I could, but I also thought it would be cool to have a Cayman S esp since it is a new model.

I know guys that have done it with the Spyker C8 Spyder, and I believe that is a 300k car.  They have the pull to get the bank to be more creative with them. 

I am not a big timer yet, so I had to make due with traditional options... 100k limit


Then why not drive something better than a cayman?
If the car pays for itself- why settle for something entry-level?


Btw, nice Ferrari- stripe and all!!


 

Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 03:11:21 PM
Unless someone is a millionaire several times over, why on earth would he spend that kind of money on a car? 

Was it Lance Briggs who just wrecked a $350,000 auto?  I don't know his financial situation, but I seriously doubt he paid cash for it...and I feel confident in saying he probably doesn't have $20 million sitting *in* his various accounts.



Usually people who owned these cars are multi , multi-millionaires and some people just have a passion for cars ( like me ) but some lease them you can get a Lamborghini like the one he wrecked for about $ 4 K a month and insurance will cover the damages ! and some people live beyond their means but hey thats the American way lol it doesn't matter if you're wealthy as long as you appear so lol it reminds me of Mr Bean who crashed his $1 Million dollar McLaren F1 I don't care how wealthy you are thats a massive hit ( no pun )
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 03:14:16 PM
Because you have to be able to get a certain type of financing.  The lender I used would go no higher than 100k for a car loan.  To do the deal on the Cayman required 90k. 

I wanted to use as much of the 100k that I could, but I also thought it would be cool to have a Cayman S esp since it is a new model.

I know guys that have done it with the Spyker C8 Spyder, and I believe that is a 300k car.  They have the pull to get the bank to be more creative with them. 

I am not a big timer yet, so I had to make due with traditional options... 100k limit



I would rather have the Cayman over the Spyker , the Cayman would leave that thing for dead .
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: powerforward on August 31, 2007, 03:21:16 PM
90k for a 60k car? I know I'm coming off as kinda crapping on your car and I'm not- just asking a couple of questions- hope you don't take it the wrong way- nothing wrong with a cayman or a boxster. 


Because you have to be able to get a certain type of financing.  The lender I used would go no higher than 100k for a car loan.  To do the deal on the Cayman required 90k. 

I wanted to use as much of the 100k that I could, but I also thought it would be cool to have a Cayman S esp since it is a new model.

I know guys that have done it with the Spyker C8 Spyder, and I believe that is a 300k car.  They have the pull to get the bank to be more creative with them. 

I am not a big timer yet, so I had to make due with traditional options... 100k limit


Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 03:22:39 PM
Right,

Some of these guys have so much wealth, that they really don't know what to do with it, so they will pay cash for things when they could finance them.

There are alot of very wealthy people out there that really don't have a very high financial IQ when it comes to money.  Music stars and athletes are a good example, they just do whatever their advisers tell them to do.  Keep in mind that their financial advisers are paid employee's, they are not self made venture capitalists, so needless to say there is alot of lost opportunity cost with their fortunes and how they are managed.

Look at the simple fact that the vast majority of Americans have virtually no idea how the Federal Reserve works, or why we had a Great Depression.

*Hint* We are soon headed for another one and times are going to get MUCH worse for alot of people poor/middle class.  There will be another huge transfer of wealth from the middle class to the Rich.  Just like there was in 1929-1933, and the 2000 dot com collapse.


Usually people who owned these cars are multi , multi-millionaires and some people just have a passion for cars ( like me ) but some lease them you can get a Lamborghini like the one he wrecked for about $ 4 K a month and insurance will cover the damages ! and some people live beyond their means but hey thats the American way lol it doesn't matter if you're wealthy as long as you appear so lol it reminds me of Mr Bean who crashed his $1 Million dollar McLaren F1 I don't care how wealthy you are thats a massive hit ( no pun )
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 03:22:58 PM
Because you have to be able to get a certain type of financing.  The lender I used would go no higher than 100k for a car loan.  To do the deal on the Cayman required 90k. 

I wanted to use as much of the 100k that I could, but I also thought it would be cool to have a Cayman S esp since it is a new model.

I know guys that have done it with the Spyker C8 Spyder, and I believe that is a 300k car.  They have the pull to get the bank to be more creative with them. 

I am not a big timer yet, so I had to make due with traditional options... 100k limit



i remember you now, steven cohen. did n't you post in alex23's get rich quick thread? . . . bragging about rubbing shoulders w centimillionaires after doing some tony robbins shit.  ;D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 03:24:27 PM
No,  I posted in the law of attraction thread, but I have never been to a Tony Robbins seminar.

I like to focus on principles, but Tony does a bit much screaming and yelling.

i remember you now, steven cohen. did n't you post in alex23's get rich quick thread? . . . bragging about rubbing shoulders w centimillionaires after doing some tony robbins shit.  ;D
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 03:25:18 PM
Actually with the options I got, the car is worth 65k, and yes I purposely paid 90k for it.

90k for a 60k car? I know I'm coming off as kinda crapping on your car and I'm not- just asking a couple of questions- hope you don't take it the wrong way- nothing wrong with a cayman or a boxster. 


Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 31, 2007, 03:45:36 PM
Are you defined by your money or is your money defined by you?



That is a great question. I think it is both.

No matter what money will change you. Good or bad is the question. I belive you become more of what you already are. If you are a a-hole and negative about life. Money will just give you a louder platform to shout out the negative engergy.

Do I look at life different now then I did 10 years ago. The answer is yes, very much so.

One day when I have real money. I would love to open a Dog homeless ranch. I love dogs so much I would take in every stray or unwanted dog. Get him better and find him or her the best home I could.

Not sure if that helps or not.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Al-Gebra on August 31, 2007, 03:48:27 PM
That is a great question. I think it is both.

No matter what money will change you. Good or bad is the question. I belive you become more of what you already are. If you are a a-hole and negative about life. Money will just give you a louder platform to shout out the negative engergy.

Do I look at life different now then I did 10 years ago. The answer is yes, very much so.

One day when I have real money. I would love to open a Dog homeless ranch. I love dogs so much I would take in every stray or unwanted dog. Get him better and find him or her the best home I could.

Not sure if that helps or not.

are you madmax's business partner?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: BIGDADDYD on August 31, 2007, 03:50:02 PM
are you madmax's business partner?

No just a good friend and his workout partner.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: rocket on August 31, 2007, 05:17:41 PM
If you can't handle the comments about your gay stripe, you can always send me the car.  I'll drive around in that car with that gay stripe any day.   

Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on August 31, 2007, 07:52:59 PM
Good response on the money question D.
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: onlyme on August 31, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.


Wait till the bank finds you.  Bragging about not costing you is your way of saying you aren't making the payments.  The Repo Man is right behind you. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on August 31, 2007, 07:58:06 PM
I am going to get this car and not pay anything.  You guys can do it to.  Just follow the owner into the parking lot and whack him over the head.  Presto!  You have a nice car that pays for itself..............when you sell it for $1,000 down the street ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Big N on August 31, 2007, 09:12:11 PM
Do you seriously drive a ferrari? If so that's pimp, pics please. Oh and read my response on the other thread about jay symetry etc.


Yeah sure MadMax makes 100K taking pix of men, and that ferrari is a present from the hunks.    ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on August 31, 2007, 09:43:17 PM
Yep, that is how you do it.

Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?

Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?

What really caused the market crash of 1929?

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?

I know you seem to be a good armwrestler and from your physique it is apparent that you eat alot.

Read some books, turn your brain on and maybe you can challenge me with something other than your ignorance of finances.


I am going to get this car and not pay anything.  You guys can do it to.  Just follow the owner into the parking lot and whack him over the head.  Presto!  You have a nice car that pays for itself..............when you sell it for $1,000 down the street ;D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: MADMAX6 on September 01, 2007, 12:18:58 AM
Yep, that is how you do it.

Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?

Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?

What really caused the market crash of 1929?

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?

I know you seem to be a good armwrestler and from your physique it is apparent that you eat alot.

Read some books, turn your brain on and maybe you can challenge me with something other than your ignorance of finances.



OUCH!  Can't wait for that response.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on September 01, 2007, 12:26:17 AM
Yep, that is how you do it.

Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?

Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?

What really caused the market crash of 1929?

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?

I know you seem to be a good armwrestler and from your physique it is apparent that you eat alot.

Read some books, turn your brain on and maybe you can challenge me with something other than your ignorance of finances.



Why do you go from being Squadfather to Stormshadow. 
Explain to me why you pay Personal Income Tax

Explain how far it is to the mm to the moon
Explain why the Yankees can't win every game
Explain why turtles live so long
Explain why you can only ask questions yet you can't answer them.  Answer all your own questions.  Dude you impress no one here with your babble.  It is as impressive as Chic Master's win.  Give it up
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: tommywishbone on September 01, 2007, 12:38:00 AM
My Pinto has LoJack, so nobody better try any funny stuff. >:(
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: OneManGang on September 01, 2007, 02:22:39 AM
That is a great question. I think it is both.

No matter what money will change you. Good or bad is the question. I belive you become more of what you already are. If you are a a-hole and negative about life. Money will just give you a louder platform to shout out the negative engergy.

Do I look at life different now then I did 10 years ago. The answer is yes, very much so.

One day when I have real money. I would love to open a Dog homeless ranch. I love dogs so much I would take in every stray or unwanted dog. Get him better and find him or her the best home I could.

Not sure if that helps or not.

You are so retarded you woudnt even qualify for the special olympics. But luckily for you, you are not capable of being aware of your epic retardation
Title: Re: MADMAX
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 07:12:13 AM
Business wise, my car has been "one of" my BEST investments.  It doesn't cost me a penny, and that is not including any tax write-offs.  The car actually pays for itself and then some.

Too bad the majority of guys on here don't even understand bodybuilding, let alone arbitrage and business.


Sweet dude I have a Cayman. I doubt I'll keep it too long though, it's a bitch in winter.  I do have a second car but I'm in Canada so I can't think of taking it out in winter. 

Now let's see a pic of you actually driving it then.

Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 08:43:12 AM
I pay a small amount of personal income tax from the salary that I pay myself.  The rest is taxed at the corporate rate as dividends.

As for your other questions, they have no relevance in my understanding of the financial world that is operating around me.

I think our differences are apparent when we compare the questions that we have both asked.

I will answer my own questions in the next post.

Why do you go from being Squadfather to Stormshadow. 
Explain to me why you pay Personal Income Tax

Explain how far it is to the mm to the moon
Explain why the Yankees can't win every game
Explain why turtles live so long
Explain why you can only ask questions yet you can't answer them.  Answer all your own questions.  Dude you impress no one here with your babble.  It is as impressive as Chic Master's win.  Give it up
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 08:52:18 AM
I pay a small amount of personal income tax from the salary that I pay myself.  The rest is taxed at the corporate rate as dividends.

As for your other questions, they have no relevance in my understanding of the financial world that is operating around me.

I think our differences are apparent when we compare the questions that we have both asked.

I will answer my own questions in the next post.


Are you Squad?
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 09:02:33 AM
Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?
They create credit (money) out of thin air and we pay them interest for the use of it.  They also control the fractional reserve banking system, set interest rates, and the biggest is ANYTIME A BANK SCREWS UP WITH BAD INVESTMENTS, THE FED PRINTS MORE MONEY TO BAIL THEM OUT.  So the taxpayers pay for ALL BANKING MISTAKES via inflation. 

If you read, I would suggest reading The Creature from Jekyll Island, The case against the Fed, and there is also a pretty good video out there for those that can't read.  It is called "Money Masters" and you can watch it for free on google video.


Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?
100% of PERSONAL income tax goes towards interest payment for the use of our Debt based Fiat currency

What really caused the market crash of 1929?
The banks started to withdraw their margin calls, causing a sudden exit of large volumes of shares...

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?
Because our money is a Federal Reserve Note, it is a Promissory Note.  If we payed off all of the debt, there would be no money in circulation.  To have currency for use the Fed purchases governement securities.  The government pays INTEREST on those securities.

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?
Mainly because 99% if the population have NO CLUE how the money system works, and how the central bankers manipulate it for huge transfers of wealth from the middle class to the Rich.  We are currently at the beginning of another one.

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?
Senators went from being elected by the state, to being elected by the popular vote of the people.  States therefore lost their representation in congress.  Ever wonder why nobody even seems to give a shit about the officials at the state level?


I will also add that the national debt will NEVER be paid off and the working class will more and more be led into complete slavery.  Look around us and all of the technology that we have, all of the HUGE increases in the productive use of time.  Prices should be going down, yet they keep going up, why is that?

Because we have a system where new money is created out of thin air, thus decreasing the value of every dollar that the honest American earns by creating value in the marketplace.

Wake up and turn your brain on...  But thats right, you don't care.  You are more concerned about sitting on the internet and taking pot shots at someone that wants to turn on a few lamps and get people on here to think.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?
They create credit (money) out of thin air and we pay them interest for the use of it.  They also control the fractional reserve banking system, set interest rates, and the biggest is ANYTIME A BANK SCREWS UP WITH BAD INVESTMENTS, THE FED PRINTS MORE MONEY TO BAIL THEM OUT.  So the taxpayers pay for ALL BANKING MISTAKES via inflation. 

If you read, I would suggest reading The Creature from Jekyll Island, The case against the Fed, and there is also a pretty good video out there for those that can't read.  It is called "Money Masters" and you can watch it for free on google video.


Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?
100% of PERSONAL income tax goes towards interest payment for the use of our Debt based Fiat currency

What really caused the market crash of 1929?
The banks started to withdraw their margin calls, causing a sudden exit of large volumes of shares...

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?
Because our money is a Federal Reserve Note, it is a Promissory Note.  If we payed off all of the debt, there would be no money in circulation.  To have currency for use the Fed purchases governement securities.  The government pays INTEREST on those securities.

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?
Mainly because 99% if the population have NO CLUE how the money system works, and how the central bankers manipulate it for huge transfers of wealth from the middle class to the Rich.  We are currently at the beginning of another one.

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?
Senators went from being elected by the state, to being elected by the popular vote of the people.  States therefore lost their representation in congress.  Ever wonder why nobody even seems to give a shit about the officials at the state level?


I will also add that the national debt will NEVER be paid off and the working class will more and more be led into complete slavery.  Look around us and all of the technology that we have, all of the HUGE increases in the productive use of time.  Prices should be going down, yet they keep going up, why is that?

Because we have a system where new money is created out of thin air, thus decreasing the value of every dollar that the honest American earns by creating value in the marketplace.

Wake up and turn your brain on...  But thats right, you don't care.  You are more concerned about sitting on the internet and taking pot shots at someone that wants to turn on a few lamps and get people on here to think.


I could care less about debating the federal reserve.  Where's a picture of you and your Porsche
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: koho on September 01, 2007, 10:39:50 AM
Explain to me how the Federal Reserve works?
They create credit (money) out of thin air and we pay them interest for the use of it.  They also control the fractional reserve banking system, set interest rates, and the biggest is ANYTIME A BANK SCREWS UP WITH BAD INVESTMENTS, THE FED PRINTS MORE MONEY TO BAIL THEM OUT.  So the taxpayers pay for ALL BANKING MISTAKES via inflation. 

If you read, I would suggest reading The Creature from Jekyll Island, The case against the Fed, and there is also a pretty good video out there for those that can't read.  It is called "Money Masters" and you can watch it for free on google video.


Explain to me what Personal income tax actually pays for?
100% of PERSONAL income tax goes towards interest payment for the use of our Debt based Fiat currency

What really caused the market crash of 1929?
The banks started to withdraw their margin calls, causing a sudden exit of large volumes of shares...

Why is it mathematically impossible to pay off the National debt and still have a money supply?
Because our money is a Federal Reserve Note, it is a Promissory Note.  If we payed off all of the debt, there would be no money in circulation.  To have currency for use the Fed purchases governement securities.  The government pays INTEREST on those securities.

Why does 1% of the population hold over 90% of the worlds wealth?
Mainly because 99% if the population have NO CLUE how the money system works, and how the central bankers manipulate it for huge transfers of wealth from the middle class to the Rich.  We are currently at the beginning of another one.

Why was the 17th amendment one of the biggest blows to the constitutional system of checks and balances?
Senators went from being elected by the state, to being elected by the popular vote of the people.  States therefore lost their representation in congress.  Ever wonder why nobody even seems to give a shit about the officials at the state level?


I will also add that the national debt will NEVER be paid off and the working class will more and more be led into complete slavery.  Look around us and all of the technology that we have, all of the HUGE increases in the productive use of time.  Prices should be going down, yet they keep going up, why is that?

Because we have a system where new money is created out of thin air, thus decreasing the value of every dollar that the honest American earns by creating value in the marketplace.

Wake up and turn your brain on...  But thats right, you don't care.  You are more concerned about sitting on the internet and taking pot shots at someone that wants to turn on a few lamps and get people on here to think.


You forgot to add that the Fed also lists our nations gold on their balance sheet as they now have control over that to be used as "collateral" in case the US gov. cannot "pay the bill" for the loans they take from the Fed. There's nothing more scary than the fact that not only does the US dollar have almost zero backing but now the non governmental agency in charge of printing the money has almost all of the US gold. The meeting at Jeckyll Island was the end game to this nations economy. The 1% had their meeting, created their plan and implemented it with the help of Wilson. People would rather stay asleep than wake up and do something about the biggest fleecing in US History. Read the constitution. The Federal Reserve per the constitution does not even have the authority to print money.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
"Brain on" to you.

It is also interesting to note that that stockpile of Gold has been dwindling down.

I wonder how long this game of "borrowing to pay interest" will continue?

It has to end, by principle it is not sustainable.  I have heard rumor of a new currency called the Amero, which would be issued for Mexico, Canada, and the United States.

I will also add that I don't think a Gold Standard is a solution.  This would drastically limit the expansion of the currency, which is only ever a representation of value created.  The problem we have is that we pay interest to use the Federal Reserve Note for this purpose.

You forgot to add that the Fed also lists our nations gold on their balance sheet as they now have control over that to be used as "collateral" in case the US gov. cannot "pay the bill" for the loans they take from the Fed. There's nothing more scary than the fact that not only does the US dollar have almost zero backing but now the non governmental agency in charge of printing the money has almost all of the US gold. The meeting at Jeckyll Island was the end game to this nations economy. The 1% had their meeting, created their plan and implemented it with the help of Wilson. People would rather stay asleep than wake up and do something about the biggest fleecing in US History. Read the constitution. The Federal Reserve per the constitution does not even have the authority to print money.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 12:17:11 PM
First of all, that post was not directed toward you, it was in response to Onlyme.

2nd, I took some time to post that hoping to create some value for others.

3rd, If you are so concerned to see "proof" that I own a Cayman S, then insulting me with the comment below is not the way to go about it.  Change your tune, apologize for being rude, and I would be more than happy to provide the necessary "proof"

I could care less about debating the federal reserve.  Where's a picture of you and your Porsche
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 03:02:47 PM
First of all, that post was not directed toward you, it was in response to Onlyme.

2nd, I took some time to post that hoping to create some value for others.

3rd, If you are so concerned to see "proof" that I own a Cayman S, then insulting me with the comment below is not the way to go about it.  Change your tune, apologize for being rude, and I would be more than happy to provide the necessary "proof"


LMAO!!   That was actually funny.  Whether your lying or not, it would be coincidental that two of us on here own the same Porsche.  What year did you buy yours?  Mine is an 05
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 03:06:32 PM
It is an 07, I bought it in mid May.

LMAO!!   That was actually funny.  Whether your lying or not, it would be coincidental that two of us on here own the same Porsche.  What year did you buy yours?  Mine is an 05
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Alex23 on September 01, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
It is an 07, I bought it in mid May.


Calling you out --> Post a pic next to it.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 03:12:35 PM
It is an 07, I bought it in mid May.


Do you live in cold climate?  I'm in London,ON Canada so I can only drive it half the year.  07 Sweet, you buy new?  

Interesting stat for you, Porsche is the most profitable car manufaturer in the world.  They are a very well run company and it translates well into their cars.  Really first class car, great service to.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on September 01, 2007, 03:12:39 PM
Calling you out --> Post a pic next to it.
gimmicks don't post pics Alex ;)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: XFACTOR on September 01, 2007, 03:13:30 PM
Calling you out --> Post a pic next to it.

Me?  I have already posted like 10 pictures of me not only standing by it but driving it. 
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on September 01, 2007, 03:48:58 PM
First of all, that post was not directed toward you, it was in response to Onlyme.

2nd, I took some time to post that hoping to create some value for others.

3rd, If you are so concerned to see "proof" that I own a Cayman S, then insulting me with the comment below is not the way to go about it.  Change your tune, apologize for being rude, and I would be more than happy to provide the necessary "proof"


Why do you pay Personal Income Tax. 
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on September 01, 2007, 03:54:06 PM
Why do you pay Personal Income Tax. 
the government hates me :'(
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 10:46:37 PM
I live in Virginia.  I wouldn't drive mine in the winter.  I still have to get something else for that.  I agree with you on the quality standpoint.

Do you live in cold climate?  I'm in London,ON Canada so I can only drive it half the year.  07 Sweet, you buy new? 

Interesting stat for you, Porsche is the most profitable car manufaturer in the world.  They are a very well run company and it translates well into their cars.  Really first class car, great service to.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: stormshadow on September 01, 2007, 10:50:04 PM
Why do I pay it?

Well first of all I did not start my first business until March, and am forming another one right now, so I have not yet filed tax returns as a business owner.  I am assuming that I will have to pay a small amount as personal income and pay personal income tax, social security, etc.

I have a really great team of guys working with me, so I am sure that I will be doing everything that can be done legally to minimize my tax bill.

Why do you pay Personal Income Tax. 
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on September 01, 2007, 11:29:09 PM
Why do I pay it?

Well first of all I did not start my first business until March, and am forming another one right now, so I have not yet filed tax returns as a business owner.  I am assuming that I will have to pay a small amount as personal income and pay personal income tax, social security, etc.

I have a really great team of guys working with me, so I am sure that I will be doing everything that can be done legally to minimize my tax bill.


SInce it appears you know financial matters.  Which is good.  But, can you show anywhere it says you have to pay Personal Income Tax.  I haven't been able to find anything that says it.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: Al-Gebra on September 01, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
SInce it appears you know financial matters.  Which is good.  But, can you show anywhere it says you have to pay Personal Income Tax.  I haven't been able to find anything that says it.

it's called the sixteenth amendment.  there, you've found it now.
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: onlyme on September 01, 2007, 11:40:30 PM
it's called the sixteenth amendment.  there, you've found it now.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

That amendment legally does not apply.  It was illegally ratified as stated below.  The IRS Code Book in fact never mentions personal income tax is something we HAVE to pay.  It is a voluntary action. 


http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp (http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp)
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: chaos on September 01, 2007, 11:47:47 PM
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

That amendment legally does not apply.  It was illegally ratified as stated below.  The IRS Code Book in fact never mentions personal income tax is something we HAVE to pay.  It is a voluntary action. 


http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp (http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp)
oh geez, OK then don't pay your personal income tax and let us know the results :D
Title: Re: Does MadMax drive a Ferrari and more...
Post by: KevinP85 on September 02, 2007, 04:59:47 AM
Do you live in cold climate?  I'm in London,ON Canada so I can only drive it half the year.  07 Sweet, you buy new?  

Interesting stat for you, Porsche is the most profitable car manufaturer in the world.  They are a very well run company and it translates well into their cars.  Really first class car, great service to.


Are you sure about that? I know Porsche is VERY profitable and I was thinking they were around at number 2 with Toyota being 1.
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Post by: XFACTOR on September 02, 2007, 05:16:19 AM

Are you sure about that? I know Porsche is VERY profitable and I was thinking they were around at number 2 with Toyota being 1.

Toyota makes the most money, however Porsche is the most profitable.
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Post by: stormshadow on September 02, 2007, 07:29:58 AM
Yes you are correct about that, and you can just stop paying if that is what you choose to do.

There are consequences that may follow with that choice, and at this point in time, I would rather massage the system than take it head on.  Making money is just the first step, you need to become financially free, then you have the time and resources to help others turn their brains on and take control of their lives.

It will not be done by voting, as Democrat and Republican are the same thing, they both destroy our liberties.  It will be done by free individuals, that are not slaves to a day job that stop arguing over the issues, and Declare that the Federal Government has NO RIGHT to be involved in the first place.

Government is like a blood sucking leach with a gun.  People keep trying to vote as to who the gun is pointed at, and who's money is going to be stolen for redistribution.  When people can stand up and say they don't want any government help, except to protect their Life, Liberty, and Property - they can peel off that leach, and let it starve until it shrinks back down to the size it should be.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

That amendment legally does not apply.  It was illegally ratified as stated below.  The IRS Code Book in fact never mentions personal income tax is something we HAVE to pay.  It is a voluntary action. 


http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp (http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/ratification.asp)