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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
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How can various athletes remain or roosters after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
Fuck Vick there is no excuse. I can't wait til the dumb ass team that picks him up has to drop him after PETA is all over their asses.
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How can various athletes remain or roosters after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
I hear you, but IMO what he did is pretty twisted.
Doing that shit to dogs is a stone's throw from doing it to people.
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let the punishment fit the crime, lock vick in a cage with ten angry pitbulls if he survives the hour let him rejoin the falcons sentence served. watch the hbo real sports and you'll see how sick these people involved in the dogfights are.
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Great,PETA will take care of him.I wish Vick had thrown some of PETAs members against the wall instead of the poor dogs.Those type of kooks are exactly whats wrong in this country.
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How can various athletes remain or roosters after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
In the other cases you mentioned I can bet my life that there were no innocent parties involved. Lots of money exchanged and everyone makes out happy.
The Vick case is different. We as a society have to look out for the innocent, the weak and the powerless, even if it is a non-human. In this case there are no victim rights, no victim compensation. no book deals, no money, no fame, no talk shows. It is about quick decisive justice, no haggling, no bartering, no bullshit.
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http://www.hsus.org/acf/news/vote_video_contest.htm
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In the other cases you mentioned I can bet my life that there were no innocent parties involved. Lots of money exchanged and everyone makes out happy.
The Vick case is different. We as a society have to look out for the innocent, the weak and the powerless, even if it is a non-human. In this case there are no victim rights, no victim compensation. no book deals, no money, no fame, no talk shows. It is about quick decisive justice, no haggling, no bartering, no bullshit.
Well put man. Again, I don't condone any of that, I was raised on a ranch and love animals and allways respected them; from chicks to work horses.
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Dogs to me, are one of the greatest animals on earth. They ask for nothing, other than compassion and love.
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin6_159.jpg)
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin1_106.jpg)
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin12_153.jpg)
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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
Roger Godell has been suspending guys for farting in public. Vick was charged with and plead guilty to all the crimes he was accused off. One of them being a feloney. Vick tortured and killed innocent dogs, bankrolled a dog fighting ring, gambled on dog fighting, built a kennel to breed fighting dogs and then lied about the whole thing. Vick deserves everything he gets. If Pac man was found guilty of any of the crimes he was accused of Goodel would ban him for life.
Vick was one of the faces of the most popular sport in America. The NFL is a private company. They don't owe anyone shit. If they dont want that twisted degenerate on there field then so be it. If Vick wanted to keep his millions, and career, he should have followed the law. The falcons took a chance on Vick and they made the wrong pick. Tough shit. Vick has been doing dumb shit for years. Hopefully he never has kids.
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Dogs to me, are one of the greatest animals on earth. They ask for nothing, other than compassion and love.
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin6_159.jpg)
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin1_106.jpg)
(http://petget.com/prh/files/darwin12_153.jpg)
WOW! Are those rescued dogs?
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From todays news conference; "I axed jebus for forgivness and he granteds it." M. Vick
OK then...
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From todays news conference; "I axed jebus for forgivness and he granteds it." M. Vick
OK then...
Sure Mike. Jesus loves people who torture and kill puppys when they are not game enough to fight till the death. I love this clown. Overrated football player, and a genuine pile of shit as a person. Haha Vick. Have fun with jail thinking about that 100 mill you lost when you plead guilty.
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From todays news conference; "I axed jebus for forgivness and he granteds it." M. Vick
OK then...
lol. i heard that "axed" thing too. what an idiot.
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Dogs to me, are one of the greatest animals on earth. They ask for nothing, other than compassion and love.
For once we agree on something. ;D
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WOW! Are those rescued dogs?
Nope.
Very good racers and some retired. Rescue implies there was danger or harm. There is none here. This is a racing Kennel in which I do evening turnout as a volunteer. The dogs are all treated like kings, full air-conditoning, the whole works. Nicer than most people will EVER treat their dog. Petsmart accrues more injuries than all proper racing kennels combined.
Here are my two. Darwin and Tesla.
(http://petget.com/prh/files/tesla_211.jpg)
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Well put man. Again, I don't condone any of that, I was raised on a ranch and love animals and allways loved and respected them; from chicks to work horses.
thats cool, I knew you werent.
I know this case is going to have a backlash against it by people who think we are caring too much about animals. It is a confusing issue, because we do the same things to cows and minks and so on. So I guess justice is hard to define when it comes to animals. I hope the one thing that comes out of it, is that it scares the shit out of kids to think twice before being cruel to an animal and also maybe cops will start enforcing animal cruelity laws.
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Nope.
Very good racers and some retired. Rescue implies there was danger or harm. There is none here. This is a racing Kennel in which I do evening turnout as a volunteer. The dogs are all treated like kings, full air-conditoning, the whole works. Nicer than most people will EVER treat their dog. Petsmart occurs more injuries than all proper racing kennels combined.
Here are my two. Darwin and Tesla.
(http://petget.com/prh/files/tesla_211.jpg)
That nice. Very pretty dogs.
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Nope.
Very good racers and some retired. Rescue implies there was danger or harm. There is none here. This is a racing Kennel in which I do evening turnout as a volunteer. The dogs are all treated like kings, full air-conditoning, the whole works. Nicer than most people will EVER treat their dog. Petsmart occurs more injuries than all proper racing kennels combined.
Do you still attend community college?
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TA : Beautiful dogs !
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Do you still attend community college?
Who are you again?
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Unfortunately I would bet the house he goes to a "camp" not a prison like his co-defendants ::)
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GREAT IDEA, AND IF VICK DOESN'T PUT UP A GOOD FIGHT, HE SHOULD BE ELECTRACUTED AND HUNG ON NATIONAL TV.
FVCKEN ANIMAL, HOPE HE GETS RAPED IN PRISON.
im with you on that. he was doing this crap for YEARS. he is not sorry. he is sorry he got caught. i hope he gets 2 years minimum with no chance for early release. So at this point the public needs to keep up the pressure for him to get a stiff prison term.
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(http://petget.com/prh/files/tesla_211.jpg)
A dog with two heads wtf?
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im with you on that. he was doing this crap for YEARS. he is not sorry. he is sorry he got caught. i hope he gets 2 years minimum with no chance for early release.
IF you would like, I have Judge Henry Hudson`s office number and personal phone to voice your thoughts on Vick and what you think his punishment should be.
Judge Hudson is VERY tough from what I understand and may totally disregard the plea recommendation and opt for tougher punishment.
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IF you would like, I have Judge Henry Hudson`s office number and personal phone to voice your thoughts on Vick and what you think his punishment should be.
Judge Hudson is VERY tough from what I understand and may totally disregard the plea recommendation and opt for tougher punishment.
Let's hope he does.
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Who are you again?
The guy you stalked and called his workplace trying to get him in trouble. Remember? ::)
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IF you would like, I have Judge Henry Hudson`s office number and personal phone to voice your thoughts on Vick and what you think his punishment should be.
Judge Hudson is VERY tough from what I understand and may totally disregard the plea recommendation and opt for tougher punishment.
of course i want it silly!!!! ill call in a heartbeat.
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i hope that negro vick rots in hell. he's only sorry he got caught. let's not forget, vick now has jesus on his side. ::)
What does being black has to do with that?
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What does being black has to do with that?
it has nothing to do with it. he just does that to get attention or get the subject off target. just ignore neurotoxin. he is neuro-tic!
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Here is another of Darwin And Tesla. :P
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Here is another of Darwin And Tesla. :P
Ever think about fighting those two?
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TA do you still go to the gym?
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The guy you stalked and called his workplace trying to get him in trouble. Remember? ::)
please remind us...I dont remember this...What happened did you get in trouble, and how did you know it was him?
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Here is another of Darwin And Tesla. :P
Do you own one of these dogs?
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state charges will be filled very soon. so no, he has not pleaded guilty to all charges. he has pleaded guilty to all federal charges.
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Here is another of Darwin And Tesla. :P
majestic looking animals.
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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
Good point. I don't understand that either.
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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
They're black. They're the protected race of America.
If you don't think 10% of the population commiting 70% of the crimes is a big deal, then you are ignoring hurtful things to society as a whole.
It's funny to me how so many people take offense with certain people, yet ignore the problems with the whole hip-hop nonsense. It's reverse racism at it's finest and I'm sure a lot of Americans are fucking sick of it.
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They're black. They're the protected race of America.
If you don't think 10% of the population commiting 70% of the crimes is a big deal, then you are ignoring hurtful things to society as a whole.
It's funny to me how so many people take offense with certain people, yet ignore the problems with the whole hip-hop nonsense. It's reverse racism at it's finest and I'm sure a lot of Americans are fucking sick of it.
boom?
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please remind us...I dont remember this...What happened did you get in trouble, and how did you know it was him?
Just another made up story in some deranged quest to defame yours truly.
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"I take full responsibility for what Iv'e did"
College education at it's finest ;D
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They're black. They're the protected race of America.
yeah, black people are so favored in this society ::)
they live in such wealthy communities, they have the best schools, and get the best defense counsel in the legal system ::)
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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it
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please remind us...I dont remember this...What happened did you get in trouble, and how did you know it was him?
Nah... the HR girl called me and said she got a weird phone call about some internet shit... we tracked the number down to a suburb of Greensboro. He then admitted it proudly with his gimmick.
He got my IP while I was connected on the VPN. When doing a lookup, he got the DNS name which contains the company name.
I guess he didn't have much to do during christmas time.
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yeah, black people are so favored in this society
He said protected. He is right. Only blacks and white apologists can't won't see it.
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I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it
I think he should pay a 7 figure fine, do a couple of months inside and 6-7months of community service at the SPCA. Suspended for a year from the NFL with suspended pay and return his signon bonus.
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He said protected. He is right. Only blacks and white apologists can't won't see it.
explain to me how they are "protected", because to me I don't see it at all
I mean, it's not like there are very many black people at major universities or at the head of major corporations
it's not like police turn a blind to crime in the black community
I just don't think there is any validity to the notion that black people are "protected" in US society
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I think he should pay a 7 figure fine, do a couple of months inside and 6-7months of community service at the SPCA. Suspended for a year from the NFL with suspended pay and return his signon bonus.
that would be fair enough
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I think he should pay a 7 figure fine, do a couple of months inside and 6-7months of community service at the SPCA. Suspended for a year from the NFL with suspended pay and return his signon bonus.
You seem to forget that if ANYONE were to engage the in activities that Vick did, they would be FIRED from their job.
The NFL is a job. It is not a right or a privilege.
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I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it
All animals should be treated equally, humans included.
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I think he should pay a 7 figure fine, do a couple of months inside and 6-7months of community service at the SPCA. Suspended for a year from the NFL with suspended pay and return his signon bonus.
Thats strange. I was under the impression that you worked from home...Where do you work?
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Thats strange. I was under the impression that you worked from home...Where do you work?
Maybe you should wikipedia "VPN", "WikiDudeman".
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All animals should be treated equally, humans included.
so, I take it you are a vegetarian?
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I understand your point of view. I don't agree with animal abuse, but Michael Vick deserve a secongd chance. We have murderers and child molesters on the loose everywhere, and killing a couple of fcuking dogs is considered the same thing. I don't get it
and noone's saying those weirdos should not be in prison too!
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explain to me how they are "protected"
Protected from personal accountability, this is no secret. By their spokespeople and the ACLU.
Bill Cosby (and like-minded blacks) are "Uncle-Tom"ed for acknowledging this:
http://www.projectappleseed.org/cosby.html
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Protected from personal accountability, this is no secret. By their spokespeople and the ACLU.
Bill Cosby (and like-minded blacks) are "Uncle-Tom"ed for acknowledging this:
http://www.projectappleseed.org/cosby.html
I see what you are saying
I agree that leadership in the African American community should provide more actual leadership rather than apologies for misconduct- more encouragement for responsibility
On a side note, I find it disheartening to discuss classifications like race so much. When it comes right down to it, we are all individuals. I've always tried to give everybody a fair chance when I meet them and if you sincerely treat people with respect, you usually receive it back.
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I mean, it's not like there are very many black people at major universities or at the head of major corporations
it's not like police turn a blind to crime in the black community
1) Education? Lower standards produce less-qualified individuals. Would a major corporation allow (an assumed) distaste for blacks eclipse its (proven) love of money?
2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.
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2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.
baseless claims undoubtedly have been made, but it is also very true that many major police departments have been caught engaging in some very discriminatory behavior- such as planting evidence, physically abusing suspects during interrogation, and blatant profiling- the Chicago PD and the LAPD have been particularly guilty of such acts
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1) Education? Lower standards produce less-qualified individuals. Would a major corporation allow (an assumed) distaste for blacks eclipse its (proven) love of money?
2) No, but how often does an innocent officer have to defend himself against alleged "racism" charges? And this is a black community that mostly white officers serve and protect.
While blacks arent heading fortune 500 companies in droves, opportunistic race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson try to shake down every non black owned coporation they can to push for racial quotas in upper management and elsewhere. This practice of racial McCarthyism ( calling anyone and everyone a racist to detract from the truth) causes many organizations to fold under pressure to avoid bad press. As a result underqualified black individuals recieve promotions in droves while qualified whites and asians are largely pushed to the side. This pathetic practice also takes place at our nations Universities ( even though there are more than 10 national BLACK universities), graduate schools and in various levels of government.
When any black person does something wrong and it makes national news regardless of the evidence they immediately scream racism or call for leinancy. The result is more racism, no real change for the better and black people who are intelligent, qualified and self sufficent are bunched in with criminals, morons and other assorted members of the VOCAL black community.
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How can various athletes remain on the team roster after criminal offenses such as rape (kobe), man slaugther (too many to name), drug charges (same here) & more while Vick's dog "escapade" is about to destroy his career and hurt the Falcons financially?
I don't condone animal abuse but has this country gone soft?
I agree when people are found "guilty"... so I would have to take Kobe off the list.
To your point though... I agree... You or I would have an almost impossible time finding a decent job if we were convicted of some of these crimes, but athletes always get a pass... It's just damn disgusting.
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On a side note, I find it disheartening to discuss classifications like race so much.
BLACKS INSIST ON IT! Affirmative action, lower ed. standards, the way too accessible race card, etc. - these SCREAM, "Notice my blackness!"
When Jesse and Al way in on Vick (if they haven't yet), THEN let's talk about who classifies by race.
It's simple. This is an ignorant millionaire thug accused of torturing pets. That is all. A martian comes down, he also learns Vick is black. Why?
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BLACKS INSIST ON IT! Affirmative action, lower ed. standards, the way too accessible race card, etc. - these SCREAM, "Notice my blackness!"
When Jesse and Al way in on Vick (if they haven't yet), THEN let's talk about who classifies by race.
It's simple. This is an ignorant millionaire thug accused of torturing pets. That is all. A martian comes down, he also learns Vick is black. Why?
I agree
I don't like talking about classifications, no matter who tries to do it (blacks, whites, latins, asians, etc)
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Nope.
Very good racers and some retired. Rescue implies there was danger or harm. There is none here. This is a racing Kennel in which I do evening turnout as a volunteer. The dogs are all treated like kings, full air-conditoning, the whole works. Nicer than most people will EVER treat their dog. Petsmart accrues more injuries than all proper racing kennels combined.
Here are my two. Darwin and Tesla.
(http://petget.com/prh/files/tesla_211.jpg)
Did you name your dog to Niikola Tesla?
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They're black. They're the protected race of America.
If you don't think 10% of the population commiting 70% of the crimes is a big deal, then you are ignoring hurtful things to society as a whole.
It's funny to me how so many people take offense with certain people, yet ignore the problems with the whole hip-hop nonsense. It's reverse racism at it's finest and I'm sure a lot of Americans are fucking sick of it.
Another ignorant post by Camel Jockey. The problems with the whole hiphop nonsense? What are you talking about? Protected race of America? Haha Are you kidding me? Blacks have been treated poorly for hundreds of years by white people. Go take history 101 at your cheap college. I will even pay for it.
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Okay back to the topic. How can that Tenn woman that killed her preacher husband only get a couple of months and vick may get more than a year? She shot him while he was laying in bed. I think it was a shotgun to the back. I see why people in other countries hate United States.
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Okay back to the topic. How can that Tenn woman that killed her preacher husband only get a couple of months and vick may get more than a year? She shot him while he was laying in bed. I think it was a shotgun to the back. I see why people in other countries hate United States.
just because he was a preacher dont make him innocent. he was in fact a bully who happened to be a preacher. she was found guilty of killing an SOB. vick has pleaded guilty to cruelty and interstate gambling...both federal crimes.
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but it is also very true that many major police departments have been caught engaging in some very discriminatory behavior- such as planting evidence, physically abusing suspects during interrogation, and blatant profiling- the Chicago PD and the LAPD have been particularly guilty of such acts
Are bad cops really the problem? For every unlawful conviction, how many just got caught? This is why EVERYBODY laughs when Chris Rock jokes about it.
As for profiling, this is the epitome of political correctness. They better profile! Those are my tax dollars. Profile CRIMINALS. Blacks more often fit certain profiles - like Muslims at airports! - should we ignore this?
We're back to personal accountability. Compton will never be on your travel guide's 'Things To Do In L.A.' and it ain't because of cops. Again, this is why everybody laughs when Chris Rock jokes about it.
PC will ultimately destroy us. It's why California is barely ours, and terrorists will board planes (Sorry, 240) while grandma's carry-on gets searched. It's why I'd be considered racist for saying any of this aloud.
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But we've moved on, sorry.
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just because he was a preacher dont make him innocent. he was in fact a bully who happened to be a preacher. she was found guilty of killing an SOB. vick has pleaded guilty to cruelty and interstate gambling...both federal crimes.
hahahahaahahahahahahaaha h a bully? if he was sooooooo much of a bully then why couldn't she get a divorce. haha i forgot you are a woman.
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in talking about responsibility, you should watch these two mothers speak- especially the first one
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2007/08/video-in-their-.html
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hahahahaahahahahahahaahah a bully? if he was sooooooo much of a bully then why couldn't she get a divorce. haha i forgot you are a woman.
divorce isnt an option to a control freak like that preacher, the SOB had to go.