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Title: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: natural al on August 30, 2007, 07:49:41 AM
I keep seeing ads, heard a commercial on PBW....what do you guys think?  Maybe he's myostatin negative like some of the other "natural freaks" out there ::)...I dont' know.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Livewire on August 30, 2007, 07:50:36 AM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Livewire on August 30, 2007, 07:51:26 AM
After reading numerous people on here that  purchased  the mr olympia, and felt ripped off.

you must understand what knd of person flex wheeler truly is.

flex is a guy , who his entire life has always had people to bail him out, because he's dumber than shit.

just read his book to truly appreciate how dumb he is.  also he never finished high school.


but this instance here tops the cake.

when flex wheeler retired from bodybuilding cause his kidneys were fucked up  and he was flat broke.

he decided to turn to god .  so flex joins a church.

now the good willed people at his church, all chipped in to purchase medical insurance for flex because

he has medical problems.  so how does flex repay these good willed people.  ha ha yes you guessed it

flex decides to make another comeback, so he goes back on his roids. and all the other shit he was on

thus fucking him up once again,  and going back into the hospital

at the heart of the matter flex only cares about one person and that is himself.  and thats it

he doesnt care about his wife,  hell in his book he admits he cheated on her many times.

he doesnt care about his fans, ever hear anyone have a good thing to say about him?

and on top of that he fucked over people from his own church

and he had his lil buddy shawn ray come on here asking money for him.


what it all boils down to as a human being flex is a piece of shit.

good bodybuilder he was, but guess what it did him no good , he's broke and always will be

and he's to lazy to get off his black ass and get a college degree and a real job at that.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Jerryme7 on August 30, 2007, 07:54:31 AM
If Flex was myostatin negative, he would have never had to juice. Any stimulus to his muscles would have gotten him huge..

When I saw him at the Colorado Pro, he was just as big as me off the juice....granted he still looks like he works out but he isnt the size he used to be.

Amazing thing this juice is...it can turn a normal looking physique to the greatest physique of all time
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Livewire on August 30, 2007, 07:56:14 AM
And I challenge anyone to tell me ANYTHING that is wrong with what I posted.  What am I wrong about?  Kenny and I go way back.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Jerryme7 on August 30, 2007, 07:58:47 AM
Livewire...isnt he making good money with MD as well as being a bodybuilding photographer?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Tre on August 30, 2007, 07:59:42 AM
I like Flex.

I'm not in any position to address the other issues, but regarding the Olympia broadcast, he had nothing to do with the technical side, nor was he the primary point-of-contact for the customer service issues either. 

Based on my limited contact with the company, it was my conclusion that he had little to do with the operations themselves and that when the complaints were pouring in and people were demanding their money back (from him personally, in some cases!), he was still out in public but had not been given enough information in order to handle all the questions thrown at him. 

Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 30, 2007, 08:27:11 AM
Look at what your dealing with.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Stark on August 30, 2007, 08:45:55 AM
one word..... scumbag
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Livewire on August 30, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
flex will make his comeback, claim to be "completely natural using only XYZ supplement", and claim that he was able to get 4th at a small show completely natural.

And, the same morons who believed he got 6th at the O completely natural, will buy it.

Dumbasses.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Stark on August 30, 2007, 10:04:46 AM
flex will make his comeback, claim to be "completely natural using only XYZ supplement", and claim that he was able to get 4th at a small show completely natural.

And, the same morons who believed he got 6th at the O completely natural, will buy it.

Dumbasses.

I don'b believe in Dexter J comeback.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: natural al on August 30, 2007, 10:10:51 AM
I ususally don't have a problem with guys that do roids, really i don't.  I've never, ever talked shit about anyone on any board for doing them.  The problem I have is when guys claim to be "natural" and you know they're doing something.  I gave Lacour and Willet a pass, I had my reasons at the time, I gave Faldio a pass for the same reasons...I dont' want to get into that here, do I still think they're natty?  Who knows, but a guy like Wheeler to claim "all of a sudden" he's a natty beast when his entire BB career has been about his drug intake is moronic.  I know he probably trained and dieted hard at times but let's face it he wasn't exactly the most dedicated guy on the face of the planet and he already lied once about being natural.  It's amazing to me that this guy who is basically a lying POS probably gets a decent job in the industry and gets a supplement deal for being something he totally isn't.....
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: affeman on August 30, 2007, 10:23:28 AM
Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Juiced Moron"?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: nycbull on August 30, 2007, 10:26:22 AM
After reading numerous people on here that  purchased  the mr olympia, and felt ripped off.

you must understand what knd of person flex wheeler truly is.

flex is a guy , who his entire life has always had people to bail him out, because he's dumber than shit.

just read his book to truly appreciate how dumb he is.  also he never finished high school.


but this instance here tops the cake.

when flex wheeler retired from bodybuilding cause his kidneys were fucked up  and he was flat broke.

he decided to turn to god .  so flex joins a church.

now the good willed people at his church, all chipped in to purchase medical insurance for flex because

he has medical problems.  so how does flex repay these good willed people.  ha ha yes you guessed it

flex decides to make another comeback, so he goes back on his roids. and all the other shit he was on

thus fucking him up once again,  and going back into the hospital

at the heart of the matter flex only cares about one person and that is himself.  and thats it

he doesnt care about his wife,  hell in his book he admits he cheated on her many times.

he doesnt care about his fans, ever hear anyone have a good thing to say about him?

and on top of that he fucked over people from his own church

and he had his lil buddy shawn ray come on here asking money for him.


what it all boils down to as a human being flex is a piece of shit.

good bodybuilder he was, but guess what it did him no good , he's broke and always will be

and he's to lazy to get off his black ass and get a college degree and a real job at that.

so in other words he is a sociopath with no remorse for his actions?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2007, 10:46:46 AM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?


4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast


This is bullshit too , because he said his was in the shop and the one he wrecked was a rental and Mercedes Benz electronically limites ALL of their cars to a maximum speed of 155 M.P.H. with the sole exception the the Mercedes Mclaren SLR which was not available until the 21 st century ! more Flex B.S. an absolutely amazing bodybuilder but a bit of a bull shiter  .
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Overload on August 30, 2007, 10:49:45 AM
How can someone be a natural freak after juicing themself into a boardline death bed?

8)
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Pollux on August 30, 2007, 11:12:27 AM
I keep seeing ads, heard a commercial on PBW....what do you guys think?  Maybe he's myostatin negative like some of the other "natural freaks" out there ::)...I dont' know.

One ad states, 'the shirt comes off August '07'. Interesting to see what he'll look like.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Pollux on August 30, 2007, 11:13:03 AM
How can someone be a natural freak after juicing themself into a boardline death bed?

8)

Enter Flex Wheeler.  ;D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Meso_z on August 30, 2007, 12:15:01 PM
Flex is the best.....why hate him ;)
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Rudee on August 30, 2007, 12:26:18 PM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?

I saw pics of his house and now way it's 100,000sq feet.  lol
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: YoungBlood on August 30, 2007, 12:31:52 PM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?

And I challenge anyone to tell me ANYTHING that is wrong with what I posted.  What am I wrong about?  Kenny and I go way back.

I won't challenge you to anything YOU posted.
However, I'll challenge you to tell me what post of mine you copied that from! :D ::)
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Rimbaud on August 30, 2007, 12:34:03 PM
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.

This one kills me.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Meso_z on August 30, 2007, 01:48:08 PM
An interesting read (spot the bullshit):

    My Encounter with Kenneth "Flex" Wheeler

    By Ron Cecchini

    I met Flex Wheeler last Thursday, January 7th at the World Gym in Brockton Mass. They gym was celebrating their 3rd anniversay, complete with 2 hour party before hand (with many kegs of beer on tap, ironic, eh?), Flex guest posing and stuff, and a "fashion" show afterwards.

    Flex was signing pictures for about an hour and talking to people. I figured that since it cost me $10 to get into the place, I'd splurge and spend another $10 to have Flex autograph an awesome picture of himself.

    At the table, I told him that I was a big fan of his and of his rival Kevin Levrone, both of whom possess very similar physiques, with their classic lines and full muscle bellies. "Thank you, and you're right. We are similar. But soon Kevin and I will meet!" And I predict Flex will absolutely blow him away. Kevin is lagging in his chest, and his legs may actually overpower his upper body. But after seeing Flex up close, I can't find a single flaw!

    After the picture signing, he got on stage and answered questions for an hour. He is 5'9.5'' and is currently 247lbs., though he plans to compete this year at 237 (a little heavier than when he won this year's Mr. USA).

    I thought I knew what big was, as I've seen some really huge guys in our gym. But unless you've seen a pro bodybuilder up close, you really can't imagine what they look like. And being that Flex has been one of my top 3 favorites since I first saw his picture, I just sat there in awe. This guy has the absolute best arms in all of bodybuilding. They are so perfectly shaped, its sick. And when he was sitting down, a time when most of us have our guts hanging over our pants, the only thing you could see was the huge ridges of his abs poking through his tanktop.

    Of course, I thought it was kind of weird to have a few hundred people standing around drinking beer gaping at this behemoth seated behind a table, but anyways...

    Flex is a genuinely cool guy - and he really does talk very quietly like the mags say. He had to be asked to speak up a few times, even with the microphone. I seemed to be the one asking the most questions, and Flex was really cool, but he got really bizarre at one point, reciting one of those muscle-mantras or something:

    ME: "What, if any, were your weak bodyparts and what did you do to bring them up?"

    FLEX: (in paraphrase) "My legs, my calves and my chest."

    At this point, Flex is speaking in a monotone, and then, all of a sudden, his gaze become very fixed - as if he were in a trance or something.

    FLEX: (in paraphrase) "I concentrate on the bodypart as I mentally masturbate imagining my competitors watching me. This inspires me even more, as the masturbation having taken effect makes me work the muscle even more..."

    The above isn't an exact quote, but it does get the gist of what he said. It was weird, and he did say "mentally masturbate" or "mental masturbation" as "his competitors watched". But at this point, I was just thinking to myself "O-o-o-k Flex... whatever." So, of course, I just nodded my head and let him go on to someone else.

    One lady also asked him about girlfriends and stuff, and if he wouldn't in fact like a romp with her, at which he responds "I can get that *any* time, *any* where." Needless to say, all us guys were like "ooooooohh".

    He talked about Shawn Ray for a little bit as well. He said because Shawn was a friend of his, he felt like he was able to tell people that "Yeah, Shawn can be an asshole" and that Shawn is the way he is because he was born into money and always had it and has always been cocky.

    Oh yeah, get this, Flex claims that he sleeps *16* HOURS A DAY! And what does he do during the 8 hours that he's actually awake? Well, not only does he train (6 on, 1 off), but he eats *7* TIMES A DAY! "When I'm not training or sleeping, I'm eating. Yeah, I admit it, I'm a bum!"

    "What do you do on your day off?" -> "I like to drive my car around."
    "What do you do for fun?" -> "I don't have fun. I don't have time for it."
    [Side note, though no one asked it, I'm sure he doesn't eat those 7 meals during the 8 hours he's awake. He *must* wake up periodically to eat - and then go back to sleep.]

    Finally, someone asked "What supplements do you take, you know, vitamins and stuff?" "I take a good multivitamin and mineral pack every time I eat," he says, "I use some aminos and, of course, I use Joe Weider products." At this point, everyone laughs, but he goes "No, really. I'm not being paid to say this. I really like Weider products." [As a side note, I don't believe he is under Weider contract, just as he says.]

    Then someone must've said something like: "Is that all?", because the next thing I heard him say was: "No, thats really about it. But are you alluding to something else?" At this point, he turns to the crowd and says: "Look people. You can ask me *anything* you want. I'm not afraid to answer any question."

    So, someone with balls much larger than mine yells out: "Are you all natural?" And, in a slow and deliberate manner he says: "Of *course* I'm *not* all natural!" He then goes on "I won't tell you what I'm doing, but no, I'm not all natural. But let me tell you: no bodybuilder or professional athlete at this level of competition is all natural. Whether it be football, or baseball or race car driving - in any sport where theres big money at stake and where size, strength and agility are needed, you're going to find "sports medicine". You don't think race car drivers take anything to get them psyched to drive that long at those speeds? They all do."

    And instead of there being hushed "oh-my-gods" and stuff, the crowd went wild and heavily applauded his very candid answer. Good PR for Flex!

    Someone then asked "But aren't you nervous?" and he says: "No. I don't smoke or drink" as he waves his hand over the beer-guzzling crowd, "I don't use recreational drugs. I eat and sleep very well. And I know what I'm doing." Hmm... Interesting, to say the least.

    So, before I left, I went up to him once again, and as I was shaking his hand I said "I just wanted to thank you once again, especially for being so candid." "Thank you" he says. I then told him that I was strongly rooting for him and good luck, and he said "Thank you, thank you very much."


Cool guy.....but.....16 hours sleep a day???? and wtf is "mental masturbation"??????
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on August 30, 2007, 03:17:19 PM

4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast

Wasn't the car going 170mph in one direction, but then it 'flipped' and started going backwards at the same speed?  ::)
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: dearth on August 30, 2007, 06:30:31 PM
the whole damn interview is bullshit.
typical flex.

oh yeah, his ghostwritten MD articles laden with inaccuracies (about his contests he actually competed in)
 make him look even dumber than he really is

An interesting read (spot the bullshit):

    My Encounter with Kenneth "Flex" Wheeler

    By Ron Cecchini

    I met Flex Wheeler last Thursday, January 7th at the World Gym in Brockton Mass. They gym was celebrating their 3rd anniversay, complete with 2 hour party before hand (with many kegs of beer on tap, ironic, eh?), Flex guest posing and stuff, and a "fashion" show afterwards.

    Flex was signing pictures for about an hour and talking to people. I figured that since it cost me $10 to get into the place, I'd splurge and spend another $10 to have Flex autograph an awesome picture of himself.

    At the table, I told him that I was a big fan of his and of his rival Kevin Levrone, both of whom possess very similar physiques, with their classic lines and full muscle bellies. "Thank you, and you're right. We are similar. But soon Kevin and I will meet!" And I predict Flex will absolutely blow him away. Kevin is lagging in his chest, and his legs may actually overpower his upper body. But after seeing Flex up close, I can't find a single flaw!

    After the picture signing, he got on stage and answered questions for an hour. He is 5'9.5'' and is currently 247lbs., though he plans to compete this year at 237 (a little heavier than when he won this year's Mr. USA).

    I thought I knew what big was, as I've seen some really huge guys in our gym. But unless you've seen a pro bodybuilder up close, you really can't imagine what they look like. And being that Flex has been one of my top 3 favorites since I first saw his picture, I just sat there in awe. This guy has the absolute best arms in all of bodybuilding. They are so perfectly shaped, its sick. And when he was sitting down, a time when most of us have our guts hanging over our pants, the only thing you could see was the huge ridges of his abs poking through his tanktop.

    Of course, I thought it was kind of weird to have a few hundred people standing around drinking beer gaping at this behemoth seated behind a table, but anyways...

    Flex is a genuinely cool guy - and he really does talk very quietly like the mags say. He had to be asked to speak up a few times, even with the microphone. I seemed to be the one asking the most questions, and Flex was really cool, but he got really bizarre at one point, reciting one of those muscle-mantras or something:

    ME: "What, if any, were your weak bodyparts and what did you do to bring them up?"

    FLEX: (in paraphrase) "My legs, my calves and my chest."

    At this point, Flex is speaking in a monotone, and then, all of a sudden, his gaze become very fixed - as if he were in a trance or something.

    FLEX: (in paraphrase) "I concentrate on the bodypart as I mentally masturbate imagining my competitors watching me. This inspires me even more, as the masturbation having taken effect makes me work the muscle even more..."

    The above isn't an exact quote, but it does get the gist of what he said. It was weird, and he did say "mentally masturbate" or "mental masturbation" as "his competitors watched". But at this point, I was just thinking to myself "O-o-o-k Flex... whatever." So, of course, I just nodded my head and let him go on to someone else.

    One lady also asked him about girlfriends and stuff, and if he wouldn't in fact like a romp with her, at which he responds "I can get that *any* time, *any* where." Needless to say, all us guys were like "ooooooohh".

    He talked about Shawn Ray for a little bit as well. He said because Shawn was a friend of his, he felt like he was able to tell people that "Yeah, Shawn can be an asshole" and that Shawn is the way he is because he was born into money and always had it and has always been cocky.

    Oh yeah, get this, Flex claims that he sleeps *16* HOURS A DAY! And what does he do during the 8 hours that he's actually awake? Well, not only does he train (6 on, 1 off), but he eats *7* TIMES A DAY! "When I'm not training or sleeping, I'm eating. Yeah, I admit it, I'm a bum!"

    "What do you do on your day off?" -> "I like to drive my car around."
    "What do you do for fun?" -> "I don't have fun. I don't have time for it."
    [Side note, though no one asked it, I'm sure he doesn't eat those 7 meals during the 8 hours he's awake. He *must* wake up periodically to eat - and then go back to sleep.]

    Finally, someone asked "What supplements do you take, you know, vitamins and stuff?" "I take a good multivitamin and mineral pack every time I eat," he says, "I use some aminos and, of course, I use Joe Weider products." At this point, everyone laughs, but he goes "No, really. I'm not being paid to say this. I really like Weider products." [As a side note, I don't believe he is under Weider contract, just as he says.]

    Then someone must've said something like: "Is that all?", because the next thing I heard him say was: "No, thats really about it. But are you alluding to something else?" At this point, he turns to the crowd and says: "Look people. You can ask me *anything* you want. I'm not afraid to answer any question."

    So, someone with balls much larger than mine yells out: "Are you all natural?" And, in a slow and deliberate manner he says: "Of *course* I'm *not* all natural!" He then goes on "I won't tell you what I'm doing, but no, I'm not all natural. But let me tell you: no bodybuilder or professional athlete at this level of competition is all natural. Whether it be football, or baseball or race car driving - in any sport where theres big money at stake and where size, strength and agility are needed, you're going to find "sports medicine". You don't think race car drivers take anything to get them psyched to drive that long at those speeds? They all do."

    And instead of there being hushed "oh-my-gods" and stuff, the crowd went wild and heavily applauded his very candid answer. Good PR for Flex!

    Someone then asked "But aren't you nervous?" and he says: "No. I don't smoke or drink" as he waves his hand over the beer-guzzling crowd, "I don't use recreational drugs. I eat and sleep very well. And I know what I'm doing." Hmm... Interesting, to say the least.

    So, before I left, I went up to him once again, and as I was shaking his hand I said "I just wanted to thank you once again, especially for being so candid." "Thank you" he says. I then told him that I was strongly rooting for him and good luck, and he said "Thank you, thank you very much."


Cool guy.....but.....16 hours sleep a day???? and wtf is "mental masturbation"??????
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: nder98 on August 30, 2007, 08:08:30 PM
Flex is the best.....why hate him ;)

Thats what Im thinking, the guy had a amazing career ???
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 30, 2007, 10:35:59 PM
Eh ... call him what you want, guys but you can't deny that he didn't have a great physique ... definitely one of the best of all time ! Without a doubt !
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: onlyme on August 30, 2007, 10:49:26 PM
When he was here I got a call at around 7am in morning from a guy I knew who rents Exotic cars here.  The day before Flex calls me and wants to rent a Ferrari.  They wanted around $800 for 24 hours.  I got it for him for around $500 I think.  Not sure on the numbers.  Anyway, i get this call and its my friend screaming wanting to know where his Ferrari was.  Apparently Flex was not only late bringing the car back but he was racing it around Waikiki running red lights and doing donuts in intersections.  This guys has numerous friends that live in Waikiki and around town that keep an eye out for his cars.  It appears numerous people called this guy to tell him a black guy is driving the shit out of his Ferrari.  I had no answer for this guy since I had no idea where Flex was.  Well the guy ended up charging Flex for new tires and a clutch he told me on his credit card.  I was told not to call this guy anymore for deals.  Other than this automobile incident Flex was great at the show.  He came up on stage and did his thing and the crowd loved it that he was there.  Just don't lend him you car. ;D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Radical Plato on September 07, 2007, 04:36:48 AM
This is a natural Flex Wheeler
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: davidpaul on September 07, 2007, 04:50:07 AM
Flex got 100k per geuest posing
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: natural al on September 07, 2007, 04:58:02 AM
Thats what Im thinking, the guy had a amazing career ???

I'm not denying that.  I'm just wondering why a company would want to market a guy who's career was about anything but being natural as a natural freak?  Even if they did it with Locket I wouldn't really have a problem with it even though I doubt him being natural...Flex is a known "user", he's done synthol, site injections and if anyone thinks he wouldn't do it agian especially after his "natural" olympia appearance they're just idiots.  You want to do roids, more power to ya, good luck with it but dont' pretend to be a natural freak just for a paycheck.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Quickerblade on September 07, 2007, 05:04:56 AM
I wouldnt support this fucken class A jerkoff liar
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: hipolito mejia on September 07, 2007, 05:08:24 AM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?

17) Claimed his arms were 23" and waist was 29 "
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: webcake on September 07, 2007, 05:09:36 AM
I'm not denying that.  I'm just wondering why a company would want to market a guy who's career was about anything but being natural as a natural freak?  Even if they did it with Locket I wouldn't really have a problem with it even though I doubt him being natural...Flex is a known "user", he's done synthol, site injections and if anyone thinks he wouldn't do it agian especially after his "natural" olympia appearance they're just idiots.  You want to do roids, more power to ya, good luck with it but dont' pretend to be a natural freak just for a paycheck.

Very true.
I don't care if someone takes gear, but there is no need to claim to be natural. Ok, if your just an amateur or don't even compete, then if you wanna say your natural then thats ok i guess, but if you have stepped on the Olympia stage, why do it?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: webcake on September 07, 2007, 05:13:14 AM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?

Just reading this list is laughable. If the pros could get $100,000 per guest posing, then good on them, but does he actually expect people to believe this shit.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: hipolito mejia on September 07, 2007, 05:13:55 AM


Amazing thing this juice is...it can turn a normal looking physique to the greatest physique of all time

Yes, but you still can't turn a pitbull in to a chihuahua,  wait.....

 is it the other way around?  ;D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Meso_z on September 07, 2007, 05:14:08 AM
This is a natural Flex Wheeler

Looking good
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Parker on September 07, 2007, 05:18:38 AM
17) Calimed his arms were 23" and waist was 29 "

I believe the 29" waist part, because in the 1993 Olympia his waist was smaller than Shawn Ray's, and was almost as small as  Labrada's! (watch the 1993 O, where all three have a call out together and you see what i am talking about).

Now, 23 inch arms...please, maybe when he was competing against Ronnie Coleman, but not in 1992-1995.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: Bear on September 07, 2007, 05:51:04 AM
Flex is a habitual/compulsive liar. Pretty much everything that comes from his mouth, is bullshit. Let's make a list, shall we?

1) Was making $100,000 PER guest posing
2) Claimed 100k people were in attendance at the 92 Nationals he won
3) Bought a 100k sq. foot house while making his $100k per guest posing (guess he likes the number 100,000?)
4) 170mph in a Mercedes Benz crash, this one I'll actually believe, but probably wasn't that fast
5) Myostation freak
6) Claimed to be natural throughout his IFBB career
7) Rumored to be in the hospital after one Olympia, but said the rumors were false. Then a week later says he was in the hospital and announced ...
8 ) Rare kidney disease that is a very fast moving and fatal disease to 9 out of 10 people that contract it...but he was born with this disease hence the reason he was so lazy in the gym.
9) Hates bodybuilding, and once was quoted in FLEX magazine that he'll never set foot in the gym again once his IFBB career is done.
10) Returns to the IFBB stage, rumored to be 100% natural, later admits he lied and indeed took something to help him.
11) MMA fighter
12) Ninja attack
13) related to above, broke his hand while defending himself in said attack...really punched a wall in part of the scheme to cover up his not being in shape for the Olympia
14) Weighed 300lbs at 4% body fat in 1992, on stage. Dorian Yates never got close, nor Ronnie Coleman for that matter- till ten years passed and we're still not sure if ANY reported bodyweight is correct.
15) Has no money, Shawn Ray sets up a "Flex Fund" and goes online for donations- weeks later Flex is pictured with a new custom motorcycle.
16) Hardbody Entertainment BBing Broadcast, rips people off for his shitty connection/service.

Didn't he also already blow out his original kidney transplant?  Got another kidney and now he's going to blow that one out too?
Anyone else care to contribute?

You forgot his 0.00% bodyfat caliper test reading, I don't know if it counts as his lie but it's the best one of all! haha!   :D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler...is he the "ultimate Natural Freak"?
Post by: hipolito mejia on September 07, 2007, 06:37:08 AM
  It appears numerous people called this guy to tell him a black guy is driving the shit out of his Ferrari.  I had no answer for this guy since I had no idea where Flex was. 


"LOL"

"I don't knock on doors"