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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Livewire on August 31, 2007, 11:28:54 AM
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html
Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here. Yeah, I can't do 315. but still...
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Its called bodybuilding , the weight is a means to and end , its irrelevant , who cares what he benches his chest is awesome none the less .
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thanks ND
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html
Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here. Yeah, I can't do 315. but still...
looks like he was repping it easy...
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We should all "struggle" with 315 like that ::)
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html
Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here. Yeah, I can't do 315. but still...
Apparently they've never seen "crazy shredded"........because that ain't it!!
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Yeah those smooth easy reps indicate he's struggling to me too...
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We also don't know what else he did before that set of 315lbs. He could have wrecked his chest and STILL put up 315lbs.
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We also don't know what else he did before that set of 315lbs. He could have wrecked his chest and STILL put up 315lbs.
Nah, he's just a pussy.
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Vic = underrated
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Vic = underrated
A modern Kevin Levrone? i.e., great, but not the greatest? Best win a Sandow soon!
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Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!
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lol..didnt look like he was struggling at all to me.. you doof... see him squating those 5+ plates with no problem?
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Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!
No he is not !
don't make me kick your ass coach >:( ;D
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A modern Kevin Levrone? i.e., great, but not the greatest? Best win a Sandow soon!
err...a modern levrone?
is levrone finished?
and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.
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god knows what he did before this anyway
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Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!
coach, why do you hate vic martinez?
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Vic is Mr Olympia material ( those calves kill me ) he can beat Cutler and anyone else under the right set of circumstances , lets just hope he doesn't become another Flex Wheeler who for what ever reason just doesn't win the Olympia .
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Yeah. Vic better watch out for them "ninjas"! ;D
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We should all "struggle" with 315 like that ::)
lol, this is getbig..I struggle with 500 for reps
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err...a modern levrone?
is levrone finished?
and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.
i agree 100%
i really dont see what all the hoopla is about martinez
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Nah, he's just a pussy.
takes one to know one i guess ;D
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coach, why do you hate vic martinez?
Hate him? I don't hate anyone, I just think the guy is overrated, I've said it before, last years placing at the Olympia was a total gift, I didn't have him in the top 5. Don't get me wrong, the dudes big and has some of the best muscle shape around, but he doesn't get hard enough, especially in his legs. Since he won NOC (his best showing ever) his symmetry and conditioning have gone to shit, he's playing the size game and by doing that, he sacrificed his symmetry and conditioning.
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html
Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here. Yeah, I can't do 315. but still...
HE COULD OF DONE 5 SETS BEFORE THAT ONE HE COULD HAVE GONE UP TO 5 PLATES NOW COMING DOWN.....WE DONT KNOW...AND LIKE WHAT WAS SAID WEIGHT MEANS NOTHING ITS NOT POWERLIFTING.....
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Hate him? I don't hate anyone, I just think the guy is overrated, I've said it before, last years placing at the Olympia was a total gift, I didn't have him in the top 5. Don't get me wrong, the dudes big and has some of the best muscle shape around, but he doesn't get hard enough, especially in his legs. Since he won NOC (his best showing ever) his symmetry and conditioning have gone to shit, he's playing the size game and by doing that, he sacrificed his symmetry and conditioning.
Right, he doesn't have the "wow" factor. Great symmetry though.
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http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html
Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here. Yeah, I can't do 315. but still...
What's your point? He's not a powerlifter. Damn, everybody wants to criticize.
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Like Lee said... He could have done several sets beforehand. As a matter of fact it shows him leaning up against the weight rack or whatever with 405lbs on the bench just before that 315lbs press. I didn't really see that as struggling either... Struggling would be Nasser coming up with what? 12 reps with 225lbs in that bench press comp that one year? Does anyone know if they are doing that again?
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err...a modern levrone?
is levrone finished?
and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.
I am not comparing physiques I am comparing careers. Even if Levrone isn't finished, I am comparing both BBers at their prime, which Vic is still in. Levrone never won any Olympia titles, won the ASC and was a huge fan favorite. Martinez might be on the same track if he doesn't win an Olympia.
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Yup...must have been real upset at the Arnold when he got his first place cheque that he struggles with 315 Lbs. The stupidity of some posters never ceases to amaze me, and these people call themselves " bodybuilding fans". Without the context of the entire workout its irrelevent...to BODYBUILDING its irrelevent...
PS. If you have the god given ""genetics" to get huge on moderate poundages, think of the joint strain and potential for injury that are drastically reduced
PSS. Martinez couldnt carry Levrones' gym bag (yet).
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Victor was coming off a pec tear too. Forget strength and its not like he is lacking in the pecs either. 8)
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Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...
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Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...
oh yeah he always looks aweful ::)
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oh yeah he always looks aweful ::)
Did he say always? In certain poses, Vic does not look that impressive.
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(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://ricca509.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/matin-arn.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFg4zeThXFGy44__DgiAP2WSgeR7w)
well for example, his waist is wide there, his arms dont look that great and his legs look small...
(http://prosource.net/images/layout/halloffame/martinez.jpg)
but then right here his arms look good
like I said, some shots he looks great, others he just doesn't...
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(http://www.npcdutchess.com/images/victor_martinez_1.jpg)
right there you can see how wide his waist is...
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lol, this is getbig..I struggle with 500 for reps
pussy :P
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thanks for posting these examples..what would you estimate his waist measures in the last photo?
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I'm not qualified to make that judgement...heres a better example since I can tell you want to be a douche about this...
(http://www.monstersupplements.com/store/UserFiles/Image/mro6.jpg)
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please define a victor martinez wide waist. you seem to be able to recognize it. both you and i have studied proportionality in school. please define wide in this context.
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compared to dex and melvin he has a wide waist...
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Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...
???
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compared to dex and melvin he has a wide waist...
::) and i wont call you names
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(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/champions2003/victor.jpg)
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1160250440.jpg)
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054818527.jpg)
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054438763.jpg)
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anything dumbell?
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there is a video floating around of vic doing 405 for a pretty good 8 reps ..so he is diffintely not weak..
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(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054818527.jpg)
Like I said........overrated, big and smooth.
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dumbell was trying to oppose me, but i guess that didn't work...
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vic always curves his abdomen in the front double bi. i am pretty sure he does this so people cannot be sure about how big his waist really is...they think that it just appears wider because he has that slight curve in it. but in reality, the curve makes his waist look wider; and he would look much better in the front double bi pose if he kept his body completely symetrical on a vertical line running up the middle of his body; and tried his best to vaccum his mid section.
jay does something like this but with his lats.
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..but vic is not overrated
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I still think he is overrated, he should not be the next mr. o...there are plenty of other guys who deserve it over him....
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I still think he is overrated, he should not be the next mr. o...there are plenty of other guys who deserve it over him....
Agreed. I would not say "plenty", but there are enough.
The picture above of his back also does not make a good argument since the lights, the oil and the slight angle are hiding the details. It is big but so is pretty much everybody else's on the professional level.
The hamstrings look very good, but the calves are what they are and not going to change much.
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dumbell was trying to oppose me, but i guess that didn't work...
ah no umbrella while you are picking at your tina scared face at the computer screen in your mothers basement i am running a small business and keeping fit. i have structure in my life...so stop talking out of your ass. know it all.
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classic response dumbell, absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about. Oh yeah and by the way I am leaving for the air force soon to finish paying for college. So yes I do have structure in my life...
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classic response dumbell, absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about. Oh yeah and by the way I am leaving for the air force soon to finish paying for college. So yes I do have structure in my life...
let me remind me what we were talking about...not what you were running your mouth about.
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killer response dude, and back to what we were talking about...vic, do you have nothing to say in response to the pictures...It's pretty funny how you automatically resort to attempting to degrade me when you wrong...thank you come again...
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killer response dude, and back to what we were talking about...vic, do you have nothing to say in response to the pictures...It's pretty funny how you automatically resort to attempting to degrade me when you wrong...thank you come again...
dude? nice try changing the subject. nobody gets degraded by me on this board...while you were up all night at the computer posting images i was getting rest. what does martinez's waist measure? that was all i asked. you got pictures my friend but no answers. now, if i disappear for 2 two hours don't miss me too much, ok? cause i gotta catch a flight from reagan to macarthur to have lunch with BCH in southampton and catch the georgetown/stony brook game this evening. i do have a life, forgive me?
so please answer the question: in inches, which does victor martinez' waist measure?
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Why would you ask a question that you know there is know way that I could possibly know the answer to? Epic insecurity by the way...
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Why would you ask a question that you know there is know way that I could possibly know the answer to? Epic insecurity by the way...
with all your criticism you have no statistics? oh i apologize kid, i thought you were prepared.
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By the way, last time I checked, the tape measure doesn't win contests, the eye does, his waist looks wide...I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, maybe that flight to the hamptons will prove to be enough time for it to sink in...
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By the way, last time I checked, the tape measure doesn't win contests, the eye does, his waist looks wide...I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, maybe that flight to the hamptons will prove to be enough time for it to sink in...
thanks for not answering the question, you are dismissed now.
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haha, the question is irrelevant...you know this, at this point your just being a douche...hope ur flight crashes btw...
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never knock someone for what they're lifting. You have no idea what they already lifted before you started looking
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when in shape, the following guys are better than Vic: Cutler, Ronnie, Dex, Anthony, Cormier
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when in shape, the following guys are better than Vic: Cutler, Ronnie, Dex, Anthony, Cormier
I disagree. Dex was in great shape at the 2006 Arnold Classic. Not good enough to beat Vic though.
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I disagree. Dex was in great shape at the 2006 Arnold Classic. Not good enough to beat Vic though.
IMO, Dex should have won it
Dex in shape always looks better than Vic IMO
He is the most overrated bodybuilder perhaps ever, with the possible exception of Baddell
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IMO, Dex should have won it
Dex in shape always looks better than Vic IMO
He is the most overrated bodybuilder perhaps ever, with the possible exception of Baddell
Vic looks kinda crappy alone - the meltin abs, the weird thin thighs.
But he drawfs guy easily. he is wider than jay. That's insane. His size destroys people, and his shape is very good too.