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Title: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Livewire on August 31, 2007, 11:28:54 AM
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html

Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here.  Yeah, I can't do 315.  but still...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 11:32:54 AM
Its called bodybuilding , the weight is a means to and end , its  irrelevant , who cares what he benches his chest is awesome none the less .
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 11:35:06 AM
thanks ND
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: WOOO on August 31, 2007, 11:38:12 AM
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html

Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here.  Yeah, I can't do 315.  but still...


looks like he was repping it easy...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 31, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
We should all "struggle" with 315 like that ::)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: The Coach on August 31, 2007, 11:43:10 AM
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html

Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here.  Yeah, I can't do 315.  but still...
Apparently they've never seen "crazy shredded"........because that ain't it!!
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: SquatAss on August 31, 2007, 12:05:25 PM
Yeah those smooth easy reps indicate he's struggling to me too...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Detroit Muscle on August 31, 2007, 12:06:57 PM
We also don't know what else he did before that set of 315lbs.  He could have wrecked his chest and STILL put up 315lbs.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Man of Steel on August 31, 2007, 12:08:14 PM
We also don't know what else he did before that set of 315lbs.  He could have wrecked his chest and STILL put up 315lbs.

Nah, he's just a pussy.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: maxer on August 31, 2007, 12:12:16 PM
Vic = underrated
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Detroit Muscle on August 31, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
Vic = underrated

A modern Kevin Levrone?  i.e., great, but not the greatest?  Best win a Sandow soon!
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: The Coach on August 31, 2007, 12:26:41 PM
Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: HERACLES on August 31, 2007, 12:49:41 PM
lol..didnt look like he was struggling at all to me.. you doof... see him squating those 5+ plates with no problem?
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Stavios on August 31, 2007, 01:42:00 PM
Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!

No he is not !
don't make me kick your ass coach  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: disco_stu on August 31, 2007, 01:58:18 PM
A modern Kevin Levrone?  i.e., great, but not the greatest?  Best win a Sandow soon!

err...a modern levrone?

is levrone finished?

and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: stomper on August 31, 2007, 02:03:39 PM
god knows what he did before this anyway
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Livewire on August 31, 2007, 03:12:33 PM
Dudes as overrated as the Beatles!

coach, why do you hate vic martinez?
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 31, 2007, 03:16:28 PM
Vic is Mr Olympia material ( those calves kill me ) he can beat Cutler and anyone else under the right set of circumstances , lets just hope he doesn't become another Flex Wheeler who for what ever reason just doesn't win the Olympia .
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on August 31, 2007, 03:30:44 PM
Yeah.  Vic better watch out for them "ninjas"! ;D
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: SteelePegasus on August 31, 2007, 03:31:38 PM
We should all "struggle" with 315 like that ::)

lol, this is getbig..I struggle with 500 for reps
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 31, 2007, 03:32:15 PM
err...a modern levrone?

is levrone finished?

and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.
i agree 100%
i really dont see what all the hoopla is about martinez
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: slaveboy1980 on August 31, 2007, 03:35:32 PM
Nah, he's just a pussy.

takes one to know one i guess  ;D
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: The Coach on August 31, 2007, 04:20:46 PM
coach, why do you hate vic martinez?

Hate him? I don't hate anyone, I just think the guy is overrated, I've said it before, last years placing at the Olympia was a total gift, I didn't have him in the top 5. Don't get me wrong, the dudes big and has some of the best muscle shape around, but he doesn't get hard enough, especially in his legs. Since he won NOC (his best showing ever) his symmetry and conditioning have gone to shit, he's playing the size game and by doing that, he sacrificed his symmetry and conditioning.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Lee_a_priest on August 31, 2007, 04:42:56 PM
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html

Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here.  Yeah, I can't do 315.  but still...

HE COULD OF DONE 5 SETS BEFORE THAT ONE HE COULD HAVE GONE UP TO 5 PLATES NOW COMING DOWN.....WE DONT KNOW...AND LIKE WHAT WAS SAID WEIGHT MEANS NOTHING ITS NOT POWERLIFTING.....
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Master Blaster on August 31, 2007, 04:57:51 PM
Hate him? I don't hate anyone, I just think the guy is overrated, I've said it before, last years placing at the Olympia was a total gift, I didn't have him in the top 5. Don't get me wrong, the dudes big and has some of the best muscle shape around, but he doesn't get hard enough, especially in his legs. Since he won NOC (his best showing ever) his symmetry and conditioning have gone to shit, he's playing the size game and by doing that, he sacrificed his symmetry and conditioning.

Right, he doesn't have the "wow" factor. Great symmetry though.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: gymguy on August 31, 2007, 05:01:14 PM
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/titan-victor-martinez.html

Martinez is struggling with 315 on the bench here.  Yeah, I can't do 315.  but still...

What's your point?  He's not a powerlifter.  Damn, everybody wants to criticize.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: saucetradomous on August 31, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
Like Lee said... He could have done several sets beforehand.  As a matter of fact it shows him leaning up against the weight rack or whatever with 405lbs on the bench just before that 315lbs press.  I didn't really see that as struggling either... Struggling would be Nasser coming up with what? 12 reps with 225lbs in that bench press comp that one year? Does anyone know if they are doing that again?
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Detroit Muscle on August 31, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
err...a modern levrone?

is levrone finished?

and really , seriously you rate martinez with levrone's physique?....i know i wouldnt have them in the same sentence together...but thats me.

I am not comparing physiques I am comparing careers.  Even if Levrone isn't finished, I am comparing both BBers at their prime, which Vic is still in.  Levrone never won any Olympia titles, won the ASC and was a huge fan favorite.  Martinez might be on the same track if he doesn't win an Olympia. 
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Old-Skool on August 31, 2007, 05:55:23 PM
Yup...must have been real upset at the Arnold when he got his first place cheque that he struggles with 315 Lbs. The stupidity of some posters never ceases to amaze me, and these people call themselves "  bodybuilding fans". Without the context of the entire workout its irrelevent...to BODYBUILDING its irrelevent...

PS. If you have the god given ""genetics" to get huge on moderate poundages, think of the joint strain and potential for injury that are drastically reduced

PSS. Martinez couldnt carry Levrones' gym bag  (yet).
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: swilkins1984 on August 31, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Victor was coming off a pec tear too. Forget strength and its not like he is lacking in the pecs either.  8)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 08:22:39 PM
Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 08:35:37 PM
Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...
oh yeah he always looks aweful  ::)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: D_1000 on August 31, 2007, 08:39:16 PM
oh yeah he always looks aweful  ::)

Did he say always? In certain poses, Vic does not look that impressive.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 08:40:32 PM
(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://ricca509.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/matin-arn.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFg4zeThXFGy44__DgiAP2WSgeR7w)

well for example, his waist is wide there, his arms dont look that great and his legs look small...

(http://prosource.net/images/layout/halloffame/martinez.jpg)

but then right here his arms look good

like I said, some shots he looks great, others he just doesn't...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 08:43:28 PM
(http://www.npcdutchess.com/images/victor_martinez_1.jpg)

right there you can see how wide his waist is...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: EbBnFlO on August 31, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
lol, this is getbig..I struggle with 500 for reps


pussy  :P
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 08:52:24 PM
thanks for posting these examples..what would you estimate his waist measures in the last photo?
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 08:55:35 PM
I'm not qualified to make that judgement...heres a better example since I can tell you want to be a douche about this...

(http://www.monstersupplements.com/store/UserFiles/Image/mro6.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 09:00:12 PM
please define a victor martinez wide waist.  you seem to be able to recognize it. both you and i have studied proportionality in school.  please define wide in this context.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
compared to dex and melvin he has a wide waist...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Big N on August 31, 2007, 09:05:39 PM
Vic is one of those guys that looks great in certain shots to me, but in others he looks awful...and his legs...they look terrible, he needs to bring those up really bad...


 ???
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 31, 2007, 09:06:50 PM
compared to dex and melvin he has a wide waist...
::) and i wont call you names
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:15:07 PM
(http://www.bodybuildinguniverse.com/images/champions2003/victor.jpg)

Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:18:08 PM
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1160250440.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:19:56 PM
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054818527.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:23:12 PM
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054438763.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 09:29:56 PM
anything dumbell?
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: LATS on August 31, 2007, 09:36:38 PM
 there is a video floating around of vic doing 405 for a pretty good 8 reps ..so he is diffintely not weak..
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: The Coach on August 31, 2007, 10:14:44 PM
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1054818527.jpg)

Like I said........overrated, big and smooth.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 10:16:55 PM
dumbell was trying to oppose me, but i guess that didn't work...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: candidate2025 on August 31, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
vic always curves his abdomen in the front double bi. i am pretty sure he does this so people cannot be sure about how big his waist really is...they think that it just appears wider because he has that slight curve in it. but in reality, the curve makes his waist look wider; and he would look much better in the front double bi pose if he kept his body completely symetrical on a vertical line running up the middle of his body; and tried his best to vaccum his mid section.

jay does something like this but with his lats.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: candidate2025 on August 31, 2007, 11:07:36 PM
..but vic is not overrated
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 31, 2007, 11:32:47 PM
I still think he is overrated, he should not be the next mr. o...there are plenty of other guys who deserve it over him....
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: D_1000 on September 01, 2007, 02:01:59 AM
I still think he is overrated, he should not be the next mr. o...there are plenty of other guys who deserve it over him....

Agreed. I would not say "plenty", but there are enough.

The picture above of his back also does not make a good argument since the lights, the oil and the slight angle are hiding the details. It is big but so is pretty much everybody else's on the professional level.

The hamstrings look very good, but the calves are what they are and not going to change much.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 01, 2007, 04:29:05 AM
dumbell was trying to oppose me, but i guess that didn't work...

ah no umbrella while you are picking at your tina scared face at the computer screen in your mothers basement i am running a small business and keeping fit.  i have structure in my life...so stop talking out of your ass.  know it all.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on September 01, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
classic response dumbell, absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about.  Oh yeah and by the way I am leaving for the air force soon to finish paying for college.  So yes I do have structure in my life...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 01, 2007, 04:55:39 AM
classic response dumbell, absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about.  Oh yeah and by the way I am leaving for the air force soon to finish paying for college.  So yes I do have structure in my life...
let me remind me what we were talking about...not what you were running your mouth about.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on September 01, 2007, 04:58:23 AM
killer response dude, and back to what we were talking about...vic, do you have nothing to say in response to the pictures...It's pretty funny how you automatically resort to attempting to degrade me when you wrong...thank you come again...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 01, 2007, 05:12:19 AM
killer response dude, and back to what we were talking about...vic, do you have nothing to say in response to the pictures...It's pretty funny how you automatically resort to attempting to degrade me when you wrong...thank you come again...

dude?  nice try changing the subject.  nobody gets degraded by me on this board...while you were up all night at the computer posting images i was getting rest.  what does martinez's waist measure? that was all i asked.  you got pictures my friend but no answers.  now, if i disappear for 2 two hours don't miss me too much, ok?  cause i gotta catch a flight from reagan to macarthur to have lunch with BCH in southampton and catch the georgetown/stony brook game this evening. i do have a life, forgive me?

so please answer the question:  in inches, which does victor martinez' waist measure? 
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on September 01, 2007, 05:16:37 AM
Why would you ask a question that you know there is know way that I could possibly know the answer to?  Epic insecurity by the way...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 01, 2007, 05:24:39 AM
Why would you ask a question that you know there is know way that I could possibly know the answer to?  Epic insecurity by the way...


with all your criticism you have no statistics?  oh i apologize kid, i thought you were prepared.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on September 01, 2007, 05:30:08 AM
By the way, last time I checked, the tape measure doesn't win contests, the eye does, his waist looks wide...I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, maybe that flight to the hamptons will prove to be enough time for it to sink in...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 01, 2007, 05:33:33 AM
By the way, last time I checked, the tape measure doesn't win contests, the eye does, his waist looks wide...I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, maybe that flight to the hamptons will prove to be enough time for it to sink in...
thanks for not answering the question, you are dismissed now.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: grab an umbrella on September 01, 2007, 05:36:01 AM
haha, the question is irrelevant...you know this, at this point your just being a douche...hope ur flight crashes btw...
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: peroni on September 01, 2007, 07:02:07 AM
never knock someone for what they're lifting. You have no idea what they already lifted before you started looking
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: willie mosconi on September 01, 2007, 07:55:58 AM
when in shape, the following guys are better than Vic: Cutler, Ronnie, Dex, Anthony, Cormier
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Livewire on September 05, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
when in shape, the following guys are better than Vic: Cutler, Ronnie, Dex, Anthony, Cormier

I disagree.  Dex was in great shape at the 2006 Arnold Classic.  Not good enough to beat Vic though.
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: willie mosconi on September 06, 2007, 05:45:29 PM
I disagree.  Dex was in great shape at the 2006 Arnold Classic.  Not good enough to beat Vic though.

IMO, Dex should have won it

Dex in shape always looks better than Vic IMO

He is the most overrated bodybuilder perhaps ever, with the possible exception of Baddell
Title: Re: Vic Martinez: "Disturbed"
Post by: Livewire on September 07, 2007, 11:30:32 AM
IMO, Dex should have won it

Dex in shape always looks better than Vic IMO

He is the most overrated bodybuilder perhaps ever, with the possible exception of Baddell

Vic looks kinda crappy alone - the meltin abs, the weird thin thighs.
But he drawfs guy easily.  he is wider than jay.  That's insane.  His size destroys people, and his shape is very good too.