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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jason armstrong on September 02, 2007, 08:34:32 AM
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These guys are hype to be the next pros on the boards and they can get more than 8th place in the shows.
top ten is pretty good but the superheavies aren't that tough of a class.
Should Trop and kluco come in as heavies so they could really be conditioned...
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you would have to cut them a whole leg to drop them to the heavies
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you would have to cut them a whole leg to drop them to the heavies
not really.
the superheavies were not conditioned they (NPC) need to drop that class and quit worrying about weight...
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Steve was like 255-260 onstage
he didn't have 30+ pounds to lose to drop in the heavies
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yes need to drop to heavys to win pro card,,midsection should be smaller and physiqe fuller,,with more muscle maturity that come from working the muscle at the 9-10 rep range with less power movments and more strict training with can only be done when poundage is dropped
kamali won his pro card in the light heavys,,kuclo need to win it in the heavys and only due to his height since if he was 5'10 id recomend him to compete with the light heavys
his physiqe is not ready to be 250lb on stage,,he needs to come smaller,,win card and then think 250
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yes need to drop to heavys to win pro card,,midsection should be smaller and physiqe fuller,,with more muscle maturity that come from working the muscle at the 9-10 rep range with less power movments and more strict training with can only be done when poundage is dropped
kamali won his pro card in the light heavys,,kuclo need to win it in the heavys and only due to his height since if he was 5'10 id recomend him to compete with the light heavys
his physiqe is not ready to be 250lb on stage,,he needs to come smaller,,win card and then think 250
As Stavios said, its not like he had an extra 30lbs of fat and water. Do you think he should back off the doses to get down?
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SORRY.. I USUALLY AGREEE WITH WHAT GH SAYS BUT, STEVE COULD NOT HAVE DROPPED THAT AMOUNT OF WEIGHT.. in couple of years that 250 will look completely different.. he is young and has time..
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His guys do well. I work with him and placed 5th in the Heavies at Jr Nats and 6th at last years NA's. My wife works with him and took 4th at Jrs and 5th at last years NA's. He had a figure girl go pro, Elena S took 2nd and 3rd at the USA's under him, her ex hubby took 2nd to Phil Heath at the Jrs in 05, Brad Davis just took 3rd at the NA's and took 2nd at Jrs in 05. He has a very good track record. Not everyone will do as well but one day they will. Steve is just so young and his physique shows it. Give him a couple of more years.
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As Stavios said, its not like he had an extra 30lbs of fat and water. Do you think he should back off the doses to get down?
he will get a pro card wether he is super heavy or heavy it wont matter,, he does need to drop weight because from what i see midseciton is not small enough,,arms fits a heavy,,i trained with couple fitness models that are 205-210lb on scale with arms ~ his size,,and back need more work
trust me on that one if bobbie chick didnt get his pro card in the 250s,,kuclo defenitely doesnt need to stand 250lb on stage,,he need to come 20lb lighter at the least,,that can still put him in the super heavy but he got to drop 20lb and sharpen and add detail to his physiqe
kuclo will look his best on stage at 220-230lb and will win a pro card the fastest at this weight while giving impression of being 240-250lb
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Sorry people saying steve does not have 30lbs to loose must have never competed before, the guy looks horrible at that weight, and at 5'10" at 250 with no muscle maturity he looks like a muscle ball, drop it down to 225 crisp and clean. He's over doing it anyways (if he stays at that weight) I give him a shelf life of 5 years tops, pushing at that weight.
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I feel bad for Steve because of the lofty expectations everyone puts on him. Do you guys forget that 2 years ago this guy was a teenager? Did you guys expect someone who just recently turned 22 to walk in to his first national show and walk over everyone? One of the historians here might know.....has there ever been a 22 year old or younger superheavyweight that won a pro card in his first national outing? I think you guys are putting unreal expectations on him. Steve has been living in Texas. Trop was with me down here in San Diego last weekend and he said he hasnt been able to help Steve much this prep....that he is kind of doing his own thing and Justin gave him a little advice here and there over the phone. Regardless, I thought that was a pretty damn good national debut. Congrats to Steve, he absolutely exceeded my expectations of him. He is only going to get better and better. You guys have to ease up and give him some time here.....he has accomplished so much between 18-22.
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there is zero doubt in my mind that this kid will win the o in the next 10-15 years if he stays in the sport of bodybuilding,,my recomendations to him was incase he wanted to get the pro card at age 23 and not 26,,
this is mr o in the making,,he needs to concentrate on bodybuilding and bodybuilding only if he can
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I feel bad for Steve because of the lofty expectations everyone puts on him. Do you guys forget that 2 years ago this guy was a teenager? Did you guys expect someone who just recently turned 22 to walk in to his first national show and walk over everyone? One of the historians here might know.....has there ever been a 22 year old or younger superheavyweight that won a pro card in his first national outing? I think you guys are putting unreal expectations on him. Steve has been living in Texas. Trop was with me down here in San Diego last weekend and he said he hasnt been able to help Steve much this prep....that he is kind of doing his own thing and Justin gave him a little advice here and there over the phone. Regardless, I thought that was a pretty damn good national debut. Congrats to Steve, he absolutely exceeded my expectations of him. He is only going to get better and better. You guys have to ease up and give him some time here.....he has accomplished so much between 18-22.
bump for the truth :D
I also want to say that he would have done better if he didn't carb up at all and came in a little more flat (like his 1 weeks out pics)
just my 2 cents
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Guys....I didn't work with Steve for this show. He was in Texas for his prep. He did his prep himself this year, and IMO looked the best he ever has going into the last week.
He's only 22 years old, and placed top 10 in a pro qualifier, which is something quite remarkable.
Expectations are going to be very high for him, but that is good. He will meet those expectations soon enough.
If you're going to criticize my competitors, please use the competitors that I did work with.
I worked with Dave Bair in the light heavies. Dave took 3rd in the middles at the Jr. Nationals last year, and moved up a whole weight class this year. Even with moving up a weight class, I feel he was in good condition, and if he could present his physique better with posing, he could have done much better.
I also worked with Anita Nickolich in the Women's light heavies, and IMO, she was one of the best conditioned athletes in the show.
Criticism comes with the territory when you present your physique on stage, but if you're going to criticize my work, please use clients I worked with.
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don't take the critism personal Justin, most people here don't know what they are talking about
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Steve has improved a lot over the last few years.
He has good lines and muscle separation...I hope he doesn't play the mass game that seems to ruin a lot of pro physiques.
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yes and all the critics are like hungover coal miners who blew their paychecks on friday night.
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there is zero doubt in my mind that this kid will go bald and lose his kidneys in the next 10-15 years if he stays in the sport of bodybuilding,,my recomendations to him was incase he wanted to die early proceed the same route.
this is shit in the making,,he needs to concentrate on bodybuilding and bodybuilding only if he can
yea i agree
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I feel bad for Steve because of the lofty expectations everyone puts on him. Do you guys forget that 2 years ago this guy was a teenager? Did you guys expect someone who just recently turned 22 to walk in to his first national show and walk over everyone? One of the historians here might know.....has there ever been a 22 year old or younger superheavyweight that won a pro card in his first national outing? I think you guys are putting unreal expectations on him. Steve has been living in Texas. Trop was with me down here in San Diego last weekend and he said he hasnt been able to help Steve much this prep....that he is kind of doing his own thing and Justin gave him a little advice here and there over the phone. Regardless, I thought that was a pretty damn good national debut. Congrats to Steve, he absolutely exceeded my expectations of him. He is only going to get better and better. You guys have to ease up and give him some time here.....he has accomplished so much between 18-22.
All Drugs.
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Guys....I didn't work with Steve for this show. He was in Texas for his prep. He did his prep himself this year, and IMO looked the best he ever has going into the last week.
He's only 22 years old, and placed top 10 in a pro qualifier, which is something quite remarkable.
Expectations are going to be very high for him, but that is good. He will meet those expectations soon enough.
If you're going to criticize my competitors, please use the competitors that I did work with.
I worked with Dave Bair in the light heavies. Dave took 3rd in the middles at the Jr. Nationals last year, and moved up a whole weight class this year. Even with moving up a weight class, I feel he was in good condition, and if he could present his physique better with posing, he could have done much better.
I also worked with Anita Nickolich in the Women's light heavies, and IMO, she was one of the best conditioned athletes in the show.
Criticism comes with the territory when you present your physique on stage, but if you're going to criticize my work, please use clients I worked with.
Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
welcome back...hows the 'prep' for mr. getbig2 going?
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yes and all the critics are like hungover coal miners who blew their paychecks on friday night.
Or have been dead, weeks ago, on a friday night. Think about it and it will make sense.
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welcome back...hows the 'prep' for mr. getbig2 going?
Is there some sort of contest? Can I choose to take my winnings in cash or donate the winnings to a charity of my choice?
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Is there some sort of contest? Can I choose to take my winnings in cash or donate the winnings to a charity of my choice?
Welcome back my friend! Your presence has been greatly missed here.
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
Oh boy here we go again. Mr Drama back at it.
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Guys....I didn't work with Steve for this show. He was in Texas for his prep. He did his prep himself this year, and IMO looked the best he ever has going into the last week.
He's only 22 years old, and placed top 10 in a pro qualifier, which is something quite remarkable.
Expectations are going to be very high for him, but that is good. He will meet those expectations soon enough.
If you're going to criticize my competitors, please use the competitors that I did work with.
I worked with Dave Bair in the light heavies. Dave took 3rd in the middles at the Jr. Nationals last year, and moved up a whole weight class this year. Even with moving up a weight class, I feel he was in good condition, and if he could present his physique better with posing, he could have done much better.
I also worked with Anita Nickolich in the Women's light heavies, and IMO, she was one of the best conditioned athletes in the show.
Criticism comes with the territory when you present your physique on stage, but if you're going to criticize my work, please use clients I worked with.
Exactly. The orginal poster made it sound like Steve and Just were the only ones in Team Trop. I personally didn't know that you didn't work with him. He did a great job. When I said that he was young and his physique shows it that was not a knock on him at all. He is young and needs the time to really mature his physique. Which will happen sooner than most peoples. He's a great bodybuilder and will go as far as he wants to. Trop has helped alot of people and the majority have done VERY well.
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
The irony of you writing of another's supposed sense of self-importance is, I hope, lost on no one.
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The irony of you writing of another's supposed sense of self-importance is, I hope, lost on no one.
no it is not, he self importance is pretty high, or so he tells us
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
"Prep" is something that if Justin did for you, you wouldnt of ended up at 158lbs at 6 foot tall after your diet. I wish I could say "all drugs" but the only two words that come to mind is "all bones" (I guess you can tell I lost all hope of respect for you after reading the Kris Dim thread and your comments......karma has a way of coming back around and hitting you in the ass, so when that time comes and something befalls you....and you wonder "why do I have cancer?" or "why did I lose my leg in this car accident?".....you might want to look back at some of the things you said to people (like Kris Dim) when he really needed to hear something positive.
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"Prep" is something that if Justin did for you, you wouldnt of ended up at 158lbs at 6 foot tall after your diet. I wish I could say "all drugs" but the only two words that come to mind is "all bones" (I guess you can tell I lost all hope of respect for you after reading the Kris Dim thread and your comments......karma has a way of coming back around and hitting you in the ass, so when that time comes and something befalls you....and you wonder "why do I have cancer?" or "why did I lose my leg in this car accident?".....you might want to look back at some of the things you said to people (like Kris Dim) when he really needed to hear something positive.
BOOM !
Dante laying the smackdown
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Justin stop torturing yourself... you and all your team combined can't hold a candle to the 6'3, 360 lbs, 0.0002% bodyfat mass monster champion bodybuilders on here who bench 1000 lbs for reps on contest day...
when you reach their level, THEN (and only then) can you answer back to them...
hahaha oh brother...
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
Someone help a village find its idiot.
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Guys....I didn't work with Steve for this show. He was in Texas for his prep. He did his prep himself this year, and IMO looked the best he ever has going into the last week.
He's only 22 years old, and placed top 10 in a pro qualifier, which is something quite remarkable.
Expectations are going to be very high for him, but that is good. He will meet those expectations soon enough.
If you're going to criticize my competitors, please use the competitors that I did work with.
I worked with Dave Bair in the light heavies. Dave took 3rd in the middles at the Jr. Nationals last year, and moved up a whole weight class this year. Even with moving up a weight class, I feel he was in good condition, and if he could present his physique better with posing, he could have done much better.
I also worked with Anita Nickolich in the Women's light heavies, and IMO, she was one of the best conditioned athletes in the show.
Criticism comes with the territory when you present your physique on stage, but if you're going to criticize my work, please use clients I worked with.
sorry man I thought he was your guy DOGGCRAPP posted a huge thread in your forum over at mayhem about him so forgive me it looks like HE is associated with both of you..
i read on another forum that his "girlfreind" prepped him so that explains the difference I guess..you might want to make a disclaimer in your sig or some shit like that..
fking princess nutritionist ho what a buncha shit that is!
plus with you coming in sub par at the USA's it just looks like you guys are trying some last minute shit that ain't working....
it's not your fault people are touting you guys as winners of the pro cards way before you get on stage and bam you get a wake up call when you hit that stage and get hit with better genetics more drugs and more experinece at that level.
I still think you guys did good top ten in national pro shows is great but I think both you and steve know you aren't pro material right now and may never be...they don't give many pro cards out each year...
It's not your fault these guys like getbig's new number one guy Stavois puts you and steve on a pedastel you can't reach right now.
good luck
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trop just got served.
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jason armstrong, why are you so full of hate for everyone?
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wasn't trying to serve anyone or hate...
i am old enough to be juiced up geeks like 19 year old stavios father and colummy dummy's pop too... :-*
geeks like you guys blow smoke up everyone's asses...tell the truth speak your mind.. ;)HAVE FUN GODDAMNIT IT ANYWAY!!! :P ;D
the only hate i spew on here is for that fat fk squatfatter and then it's all in fun i love to see him squirm behind his 1999 gatway desk top on dialup..
trop and steve looked good but both blew it the last week or so..
WHAT THE FK DOES A GODDAMN FITNESS CHICK KNOW ABOUT TRAINING NUTRITION AND DRUGS WHEN IT COMES TO A YOUNG UP AND COMING BODYBULIDER LIKE STEVE...
HE STAYS ON THAT PATH OF LISTENING TO A GIRL FOR ADVICES HE'S BE A PRO DISHWASHER NOT BB'ER ....
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So in spite of your age and self-claimed wisdom, you are sexist and don't know that "advices" is not a word...
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So in spite of your age and self-claimed wisdom, you are sexist and don't know that "advices" is not a word...
wow a real sexist on this bulletin board...who knew?
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who knows what clummy dummy is talking about just a sad little college kid that posts bullshit on here and mayhem....
at least with my posts you know you will either get me ripping squat fagg a new one owning that tubby piece of poop or
telling the truth and like it is
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who knows what clummy dummy is talking about just a sad little college kid that posts bullshit on here and mayhem....
at least with my posts you know you will either get me ripping squat fagg a new one owning that tubby piece of poop or
telling the truth and like it is
funny guy you are jason LOL
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Boy... whoever's gimmick you are, Squadfather sure owned you real good didn't he...
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"Prep" is something that if Justin did for you, you wouldnt of ended up at 158lbs at 6 foot tall after your diet. I wish I could say "all drugs" but the only two words that come to mind is "all bones" (I guess you can tell I lost all hope of respect for you after reading the Kris Dim thread and your comments......karma has a way of coming back around and hitting you in the ass, so when that time comes and something befalls you....and you wonder "why do I have cancer?" or "why did I lose my leg in this car accident?".....you might want to look back at some of the things you said to people (like Kris Dim) when he really needed to hear something positive.
There is no such workable mechanism behind a superstitious notion as Karma. It does not exist. I did help out Kris Dim by telling him how stupid he was for doing what he did and I hope I made enough impact on him that he will stop his rampant drug use and poor choices. If anything, I extended a helping hand, albeit with a bit of a spiked glove. A hand extended nonetheless is a hand extended.
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True Anus, when are you gonna fight the Cum-gargling Manwhore?
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speaking of cum gargling and lookie here -the resident jewish homo shows up! aryan homo!
colummy dummy chokes every night like his buck fuck eyes did last year when the gators beat the shit outta them losers...
adam richard abeles the biggest loser on the internet!
priceless.
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Guys....I didn't work with Steve for this show. He was in Texas for his prep. He did his prep himself this year, and IMO looked the best he ever has going into the last week.
He's only 22 years old, and placed top 10 in a pro qualifier, which is something quite remarkable.
Expectations are going to be very high for him, but that is good. He will meet those expectations soon enough.
If you're going to criticize my competitors, please use the competitors that I did work with.
I worked with Dave Bair in the light heavies. Dave took 3rd in the middles at the Jr. Nationals last year, and moved up a whole weight class this year. Even with moving up a weight class, I feel he was in good condition, and if he could present his physique better with posing, he could have done much better.
I also worked with Anita Nickolich in the Women's light heavies, and IMO, she was one of the best conditioned athletes in the show.
Criticism comes with the territory when you present your physique on stage, but if you're going to criticize my work, please use clients I worked with.
People are going to hate, Trop. ... hell, you already know this. Just keep doing your thing, man and good luck in your future endeavors. :)
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i am old enough to be juiced up geeks like 19 year old stavios father and colummy dummy's pop too... :-*
did I ever do something to you ???
you seem full of hate
I appreciate your posts even if we don't agree on certain things, you seem knowleadgable
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did I ever do something to you ???
you seem full of hate
I appreciate your posts even if we don't agree on certain things, you seem knowleadgable
man I am just fucking with YOU.
Please don't take anything seriously on the boards.
you are a good kid.
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man I am just fucking with YOU.
Please don't take anything seriously on the boards.
you are a good kid.
thanks squad :-*
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:'(jeez man don't insult me! :D
that hurt! :-X :o :)
Tropinion are ou going to work with Steve in the future or is he going to destroy his career by letting his girlfreind train him.
that shit never works out!
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There is no such workable mechanism behind a superstitious notion as Karma. It does not exist. I did help out Kris Dim by telling him how stupid he was for doing what he did and I hope I made enough impact on him that he will stop his rampant drug use and poor choices. If anything, I extended a helping hand, albeit with a bit of a spiked glove. A hand extended nonetheless is a hand extended.
It must really SUCK to be you. really.
How sad and absolutely pitiful it is to see you absolutely embarass yourself everytime you post.
You got a dictionary and thesarus and god knows what else books around you at all times and you continually try to search for big words and make complicated sentences to try and portray yourself as someone intellegent.
Your anything but that trust me. If anything your IQ is below AVERAGE-especially since you 2-3 mental disorders going on there as well, we already know about your below average looks and terrible genetics.
your a typical internet loser continually posting about your riches, eating at 5 star restaurants, expensive wine greek god etc BS you spew hell we have lost track lie about your lifts lie about your job lie about your girlfriend damn sad everyone knows you are a fraud.
karma has already hit you in the face you lost your job your woman and your identity and status on this board and MD ..hell everywhere your dumbass posts you eventually self destruct..that's karma you have been hit where it hurts..and we all laugh at you now and you are a destroyed internet "legend"..
don't ever go to a show someone will break your ugly face one day when you least expect it.
You'll be 30 in a few years hopefully you'll amount to something someday and move outta momma abeles house...
excuse me while I go drink my expensive wine, eat my greyhound dogg food stacked with a cheeseburger......Too easy!
gravity suit? Try a strait jacket!!! you need help. bigtime. bag it. twinkie.
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Prep. What is this meaningless euphemism? All one does is eat less. Or in fact, that is all one needs to do. Prep is just a buzzword used to generate some sort of semblance of supposed self-importance.
I see you still don't get it!